Why is playing a game as intended a bad thing

>>59182364
don't reply to yawnfag

>>59182360
REDEMPTION ARC OF THE VILLAIN STARTS NOW

>>59182360
It was a perfectly reasonable assumption, anything but the god tier ability it got would've made it an irredeemable shitmon.

>>59182360
Yeah, because all the mons that would make it worthless (Ursaluna, Mega Salamence, etc) literally don't exist right now.
If you got rid of everything that could possibly give grief to Raticate, it'd be a really good mon too.

>>59182360
Ice chads just keep winning

>>59182360
I thought you guys said English players were bad

>>59182402
They are, but Wolfe is a Hebraic Jew.

>>59182402
champions is split with 2 different servers for vgchads (japanese), and smoggies, campaignshitters, troons, etcc (the rest of the world)

>>59182402
That's just Verlisify saying that and he's projecting.

>>59182360
>corporate fanfic meta
Doesn’t count

>>59182360
I demand personal apologies from all the anons who disagreed with me.

>>59182415
If it's corporate, it's not fanfic by definition.
Please hire a better ESL teacher, smogfag.

>>59182437
It's fanfic because it isn't supported or represented by the mainline games in PvE content and exists wholly separate from the experience you get.

>>59182439
Yeah, slopgon do be like that.

But what does that have to do with the official, in-game supported format, sagefag?

>>59182439
>i-i-it needs to be like my toddler campaign so it doesn’t count!
KEK campaignshitters will do anything except play PvP because they’re too scared of doing anything where there’s a chance they’ll actually lose

>>59182439
This is the only real meta now
cope

>>59182445
>>59182446
>>59182448
If GameFreak really cared about getting people to file into their game of pretend, the mainline games should be exclusively 4v4 double battles where you pick 4 mons from your team of six, and they'd be regularly exposed to real double battle strategies employed by players so they have a basic understanding of what the hell PVP is going to be like, unlike Champions' dogshit "use da water move on da fire pogeymanz, u now kno how 2 play gaem have fun getting raped by things we never talked about :)".
Face it kojo, VGC flopped and shitted, and once again only autists care.

>>59182439
What about Battle Towers?

>>59182456
You mean the facilities that aren't even in the games anymore unless they're begrudgingly forced to bring them in for remake purposes, like the case of BDSP?

>>59182455
>I-IT NEEDS TO BE LIKE MY CAMPAIGN SO I CAN FEEL INCLUDED!! I DON’T WANT TO SIMPLY PLAY PVP I’M TOO SCARED OF LOSING EVEN THOUGH I CONSTANTLY CRY ABOUT XY BEING TOO EASY!!!
kek

>>59182360
I know its Wolfey and all but people ow the Scovillain species an apology. Having ran into them a lot, they're an actual menace.

>>59182469
>no refutation of criticism, just strawmanning of my character as if it were a valid substitute
I accept your concession. Thanks for agreeing VGC flopped and shitted.

>>59182360
>Wolfe
Bring me someone who isn't a cheater.

>>59182476
over 4 million people attended in person tournaments last year. 10 million people watched last year's vgc finals. meanwhile, flopgon has to beg for donations for when nintendo finally shuts down their fanfic grooming website. it's over for you, sagefag.

>>59182360
>it takes the literal best Pokemon player in the world to make it viable
Wolfey could get to Rank 1 with Watchog if he wanted.

>>59182484
>B-BUT MUH NUMBERS, MUH NUMBERS PROVE IT'S A SUCCESS AND BELOVED
Right, so Amazon is a god-tier company in all possible aspects, and McDonald's is the tastiest food in the entire world.

>>59182489
The top ladder is insanely competitive right now with lots of national/world level players, so that's not really true

>>59182489
And now that Wolfe is inspiring people who don't know what they're doing to use Mega Scov en masse, players who ACTUALLY know what they're doing will shift the meta to run counter to Mega Scov's majority presence.
It's just like how Zard Y was omnipresent, and then instantly fell off when people started running Aerodactyl because Rock Slide was consistent enough to get rid of it before it could ever pose a threat.

>>59182462
Yes.
The post-game location that was every mainline game from Crystal to UltraSun/UltraMoon, as well as Sword/Shield and BDSP.
Sadly, they were removed because "people" like you thought they were "too scawy".

>>59182509
Aero is just really fucking good in general the only reason you haven’t seen it until now is because it’s been constantly excluded from VGC pre legend formats

>>59182505
Top 10 is basically interchangeable. In fact, Wolfey at the time of this post is 2nd.

>>59182515
No, it's because no one wanted to play them since they were easily cheesed once you understood the most consistent strategy, so it became stale.
Unlike PVP, where the meta is constantly evolving and changing, so what worked today will not work tomorrow if today's success is too big, encouraging a counter-strategy.
The Gen 3 Battle Tower will never full-on evolve its sets to more reliably get rid of the almighty Gyarados/Salamence/Latios core because it's fundamentally incapable of doing so.

>>59182509
Isn’t Zard still high up in usage?

It's the third or fourth best Amoonguss in the game, and since not only are regular style and ancient Amoonguss not in the game, Pachirisu isn't either despite being competitively viable in a limited meta and a ton of other Pikaclones being in, so it's the best at exactly what it does. The moment any of them come in it'll probably be markedly worse. Maybe it'll be around the same time as Pachirisu depending on how much you want to use a different Mega instead of it, but Amoonguss is just better at the exact same job.

>>59182559
Plus, once mons famous for exploiting Facade and/or Guts filter in, Scov's viability will massively drop because you don't want to hand your opponent the keys to free OHKOs with the least dangerous status they could have.

>>59182525
And that's why you spend all your time on Showdown instead of the real PvP modes?

>>59182598
>once again she has no valid refutation of criticism and can only attack my character as if it were a reasonable "GOTCHA, EAT SHIT FAGGOT" invalidation of criticism
I'll accept this concession too.

>b-b-b-b-b-but it might be bad in the future!
new campaignshitter cope just dropped

There some megas that are good that people just dismiss because they're not unga bunga tier.
I reached Master Ball with Mega Meowstic female.

>>59182613
The point is the Battle Towers (or equivalent) are supposed to ease you into the PvP modes. Hence why they use the PvP rules.
If they are so easy in your opinion, then you shouldn't have a problem with the official PvP formats, by definition.
And yet, you choose to chicken out, and play a fanfic meta on a fansite.
Something isn't adding up here.

>>59182642
Except they aren't a good lesson on PVP. Set diversity in PVP is theoretically infinite and constantly evolving to run counter to your strategies, whereas diversity in Battle Towers is fixed and generalized.
None of the sets in doubles Towers expose you to staple strategies of PVP either, so you won't have pre-existing experience of them. It took until Kieran's battle in SV DLC for them to acknowledge VGC builds in some capacity, but even those failed to land the mark because the AI can never play like a player, so tactics like prediction, mind games and long term planning of status moves and abilities do not exist. Once again, you do not get an experience indicative of PVP.

>>59182360
Completely insane that somebody would pay actual money to sit and watch someone else play a video game instead of just doing it themselves. You are a findom'd gaming cuck.

>>59182662
You get more than you would playing 6v6 Smogfag rules on Showdown.

>>59182682
>STILL no refutation, has to resort to whataboutism
Concession. Accepted.

Make a thread when he's able to beat Giovanni with it.

>>59182686
We're literally talking about how 3v3 Singles and 4v4 Doubles are the main formats and how that's represented in the games. Or at least used to be.
Or am I talking to a different person than before?

>>59182619
Ok compshitter

Scov is actually bad but it being early meta + Wolfe allowed it to reach rank 1. He even brought leafeon or glaceon in SV rank 1 iirc

>>59182360
VGC Gojo wins with a shitmon and I’m supposed to be surprised

what’s his scovillain team? has he said?

>>59182360
You know he must have been serious about climbing when he didn't stream it.

>>59182509
Zard Y is still high usage and I believe it will still see a lot of high placements in tournaments because it was the first mon to shape the meta around it.
Teams will run 2 counters just to make sure Zard isn't a threat. Things go in cycles.

>>59182360
Does this prove it isn’t? Go to Wolfey’s YT page right now his last 5 years of videos are
>winning a tournament with only normal type pokemon
>winning a tournament with unevolved pokemon
>they made regigigas bad on purpose so I won a tournament with it

This has been his brand for so long he actually had to announce a year where his self-imposed challenge was “only using good pokemon”

>>59182559
I hope pokemon rotate. I like limited metas. If all pokemon are in then the meta will be always similar and the debs will have to make new mons overcrept

>>59182360
Anyone who played Hackmons knew that applying status to anything for simply attacking you was busted. Pokemon with fucking Cramorant’s statline vs itemless Megas and Ubers was able to get banned.
I also saw Mega Scovillain’s stats and thought “well these stats are shit, so they are probably gonna give it Moody since Scovillain is one of the best abusers of Moody”. I was kind of right in thinking that Mega Scovillain would get a broken ass ability.

>>59182978
It proves that it’s at least mid enough to win a tournament.

>>59182360
I haven't really been paying attention, isn't Chumpions missing more Pokemon than SV UU?

>>59183003
This is Lame Freak/ILoveChildAss we’re talking about. The shillmons raping the meta will never be rotated out.

>>59182360
Mega Scovillain unironically could become one of the most dominate Megas if it ever gets Synthesis.
Mega Scov actually has similar bulk to Quagsire and Clefable. With reliable recovery, Mega Scov would be able to burn more than 1-2 Pokemon a match.

>>59182402
That mutted desert faggot is not English

>>59182360
What other mons did he run with Scovillain?

>>59182364
because compshitters think if you don't put 5000 hours facing people for nothing but bragging rights into the game you're not a true fan