>that incest tension between tai and kari

>>12501847
Yeah one of the anime writers said some weird shit regarding that too but I'm talking about the games

>>12501773
1999-2000 release, should have been early 1999 or late 1998.

Bad games. Digimon World 2 and 3 are bad grindfests. 3 is even worse than 2 as it's just a hollow shell of a game.

still better than pokemon

I watched Digimon before I ever saw an episode of Pokémon. I was 3 years old and thought Pokémon was a Digimon ripoff.

>>12501773
The popular consensus across the net is that they did a bad job marketing it in America and made it seem too similar to Pokemon when in reality it's totally different.

>>12501773
Game-wise, they didn't strike gold with their games' mechanics and the franchise always lived under Pokemon's shade internationally.
DW1's monster raising gameplay is really engaging but unforgiving at times; it's a nice upgrade from just raising animals in a corral, but Pokemon, the unavoidable milestone, got a winning formula right away with cockfights where you don't worry about food, disease or other features -- it's nonstop fighting like a traditional RPG that you could take around with you to fight and trade with others.
Digimon games had a dungeon crawler, an isometric RPG closer to other popular experience, a solid card game... but none became the cashcow they wanted.

>>12501773
Nothing. The games and anime are just spin-off media, Digimon is first and foremost a series of handheld LCD toys and they've been going strong. I'm looking forward to the Godzilla Pendulums.

Nothing.
If you want great monster raising digimon games, you got dw1 and the newest remake of dw1.
If you want a great digimon card game you got the pretty good ps1 card game.
If you want a generic digimon jrpg you have the ds games and even cyber sleuth and the psp anime game.
If you want a digimon fighting game you have the solid rumble arena games.
Like, what do you need more?

>>12502157
>Pokemon
Is not a monster raising game.Comparison to dw1 make no sense.
>dungeon crawler
No, they had a weird attempt at making a mystery dungeon like that failed.
>an isometric RPG closer to other popular experience
???
> but none became the cashcow they wanted
Bandai hates Digimon and would can the entire franchise if it ever made decent amount of money. It is typical old jap ceo bullshit.

>>12502172
That's precisely why they failed, when people buy Pokémon whatever version they know what they are getting

>>12501773
Poor kids liked Digimon
Kids from better families like Pokemon

No idea why that is. I guess because poor kids liked PS1 and there was no Pokemon on PS1, just Digimon.

>>12502397
>failed
None of them had any budget to fail minus the modern ones.The ds games also were a financial success.
Pokemon can easily beat call of duty in terms of sales, it is not comparable.

>>12501773
a youtube told you something went wrong

>>12501773
All they had to do was refine the uniqueness of Digimon World 1,
and maybe by the third sequel it would've been less cryptic.

Instead, they turned DW2 & 3 into generic RPGs.

What I don't get is why Digimon Frontier (Season 4) gets so little representation.
I feel like it deserved at least one dedicated game to it.
And I don't mean a 2D fighting game on the GBA, like those DS Shonen Jump, no.

At this point I would take a Digimon Frontier Musou 無双 even.

If they had made Digimon World 4, and actual game like Digimon World 1,
but added Digimon from Frontier...

>>12502157
This pretty much. It wasn't until cyber sleuth that digimon really started to catch on with people and unfortunately its a pretty damn bog standard jrpg aside from the setting. Loved digimon world 2 as a kid though.

>>12501773
Just like early Pokemon, Digimon lost its momentum as soon as it's own mania ended.

>>12501773
Xros Wars

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>>12501847
Hehehe

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>>12501872
>>12501847
Knowing Dragon Ball anime vets worked on Digimon Adventure and beyond, it shouldn't be a surprise this was a thing.

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>>12501773
>Bandai: "Hey, Yamauchi, what do you think of the Wonderswa-?
>Yamauchi: "ARE YOU THREATENING ME???"
>Yamauchi: *orders a hit on Yokoi*
>Yamauchi: "MIYAMOTO SAN MAKE SURE THE POKEMON PROJECT IS FINISHED, AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE GAME BOY SOME COLORS BEFORE BANDAI DOES IT!!"
and the Digimon franchise was a goner
True story btw

>>12502131
I'd disagree if all the games after the first one didn't turn into babyslop and poorman Digimon (design wise)

>>12501847
>>12501872
>>12503246
That's stuff exaggerated by gooners on /a/ and then spread by sensationalist youtubers
The writer described it as her being a jealous of agumon and tai giving him more attention than her, and compared her to a wife looking at her husband talking to a younger woman

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The invention of Digimon

Nothing really. It's still going and still makes money.
If you're talking about pokemon, digimon just came out a little bit too late and too close, no fault of its own. It was always going to exist because Bandai was always gonna look at tamagotchi's success and want a more boy-centrict version of it.
But then pokemon came out before digimon, got bigger, faster, and colored what people would want in a game about monsters.
>>12502139
Probably this. Japan and other parts of the world don't seem to have this "rip off" mentality.

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she cute

>>12503241
teenhood fap

>>12502881
>What I don't get is why Digimon Frontier (Season 4) gets so little representation.
A lot of fans really hated that show, I'll never get it. It was season 5 that I had no interest in.

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>>12503721
>exaggerated
Oh you sweet summer child.

>>12503878
Gen X ahh humor

>>12502506
The anime carried both franchises hard back in the day. But if you couldn't afford the games, then the anime was the franchise itself to you. And if you focused on only TV shows, then you'd clearly recognize Digimon had the way better one.
Honestly anyone with more than half a brain cell would know Digimon had the better show, while the Pokemon anime ran out of gas after the first one.

>>12503890
>Probably this. Japan and other parts of the world don't seem to have this "rip off" mentality.
Meant for >>12502140

>>12502157
>>12502397
Pokemon and Digimon have the exact opposite problems.
Pokemon has one formula and religiously sticks to it to a T, while Digimon will try 50 things at once and cause 50 fanbases to want to be catered to or not like a new installment that's something also completely new.

>>12502915
>It wasn't until cyber sleuth that digimon really started to catch on with people and unfortunately its a pretty damn bog standard jrpg aside from the setting
Kinda shows what people really want, for better and for worse

>>12503261
He actually did say all of th WAIT WHAT THE FUC- *dies in a car crash*

>>12503878
lol, space moose

>>12503921
>Pokemon has one formula and religiously sticks to it to a T
Pokemon snap? Pokemon Go? Pokken tournament? Pokemon MOBA whatever its name is? Pokemon Legends? Pokemon Rangers? Pokemon Mystery Dungeon? Pokemon colosseum? Do I need to keep going?

>>12503878
I don't get it

>>12503891
>i virgin

>>12502881 >>12503896
>What I don't get is why Digimon Frontier (Season 4) gets so little representation.

Frontier as anime has an interesting story. But removing the Tamer aspect to be replaced with a power-rangers esque transformation drastically reduces it's appeal in the context of Digimon and highlights the biggest issue it had with its writing which are the characters. I don't know how well received it was in Japan, but I can see why it gets sidelined from the rest

>>12503921
Same with final fantasy and dragon quest.

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>>12503878
What, am I the only one that carries a dead tamagotchi on purpose? The neglect is the fun part.

>>12503902
Digimon had lolicon appeal and tits and ass don't act like I don't know that, but it's literally just what the director of the show himself said, take it up with him

>>12504235
Thank you for reminding me I need to be pedantically autistic and clear on this board, because I was talking about MAINLINE Pokemon games
I'll make everything crystal clear next time just for someone to go tldr instead

>>12507823
Still doesn't make sense. They do experiment with formulas and still get money. Why is this a problem for Digimon but not for Pokemon?
Also, Digimon does not have a mainline series of games, so it's stupid so only consider one series of a franchise to the entirety of the other.

>>12507834
>Also, Digimon does not have a mainline series of games
Almost like............................

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>>12501847
Well that's a way to start a thread...

>>12507837
You were the one who brought up "mainline game", not me.

>Hey Digimon
>Hey Digimon

>>12507823
Thank you for coping. Watching an ignorant child humiliate itself is entertaining.

>>12501773
World 1 was too weird, too vague, and too low budget. It needed more time in development or a proper sequel/re-release to smooth things. Completely changing genres and gameplay, and slapping on a sequential number on the title was a mistake.

>>12501872
>>12503721
If Hosoda actually wrote the episode like people are incorrectly claiming, there would have been a Bollywood dance number where the siblings profess their incestuous love.

>>12501773
Bad marketing
Awful Mutt dub

It was hugely popular here in Middle East because the marketing was strong and the songs were played like everywhere.
Frontier killed the popularity though

>>12509132
Digimon was popular in the west though, it just didn't keep that popularity over time.

It probably has more to do with it appealing to the same demographic as pokemon, but unlike pokemon never built up the insane frenzy momentum to keep it alive until the late 2000's. Yugioh also came out and ate its lunch.

>>12501773
No consistency with itself. Pokemon is as predictable as clockwork and that makes it easy to bring new players in and keep old players from leaving, while Digimon keeps changing every rule and aspect about itself and ends up a total mess that nobody wanta to touch. Saban stupidly thinking the anime could compete with Pokemon's anime didn't help, either.

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>>12509318
It always upset me how everything looks normal, cute dinosaurs and all and them BAM, sphinx with tits xD
...What the fuck man...
Even as a pre-pubescent teen i knew this was wrong and stupid

Last i heard it's gotten much worse now - they're doing catgirl tsundere stuff. Weird.

>>12502172
Hell, Digimon even had a pretty decent kart racing game.

>>12509132
It was insanely popular here in Latinamerica as well, mostly because of it's brilliant dub and uncut, un-retarded scripts.
Back then lots of people used to draw fanart of Gatomon chumming around with Vegeta because their latinamerican voice actors were a couple at that time.

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>>12502172
>solid rumble arena games.
Just the first one. The second sucks dick and is way too much of a smash ripoff

>>12509378
The WonderSwan/Game Boy Advance version was pretty good though.

>>12503721
>The writer described it as her being a jealous of agumon and tai giving him more attention than her, and compared her to a wife looking at her husband talking to a younger woman
Yeah, but also that whole "hiding her soiled panties" thing was a bit weird.

>>12509393
That is weird because in the episode she says he washed them, not hide them.

>>12509409
Whatever. It's still weird and vaguely incestuous.

The series is a complete mess with the each medium contradicting each other.

>>12509413
Go find an incest doujin to jack off to, retard faggot

>>12501773
>What went wrong?
Changing genres for Digimon World 2 and on instead of actually building on what they started with Digimon World 1.

>>12501847
He asked what went wrong, not what went right

>>12503890
>Japan and other parts of the world don't seem to have this "rip off" mentality.
Probably the "Dr Thunder" mentality, where the big name thing that comes first is the good thing for wealthy people, and only poor people get the off-brand imitation version. Digimon was likely perceived as off-brand Pokémon by a lot of kids, therefore it was worse. Obviously not everybody thought that way, and some were probably intrigued by the more bad ass monster designs, but I would not be surprised if a lot of American kids (myself included, too an extend) just wrote it off as the store brand version of Pokémon. I kinda wonder if it would have done better had they not given it the -mon naming, to reduce the implication that it was just a knockoff.

>>12509512
I think the first anime series was a big part of that. If they had opened with something like Tamers, where it's set in a modern-day urban environment with digital monsters entering the real world and duking it out on the streets, they'd have had a better chance of differentiating themselves in the public mind.

Instead they went with a gang of kids going on adventures with their colorful (but not quite so cutesy this time!!) monster companions across the pastoral scenery of a light-fantasy world, which frankly, at even the most basic glance, screamed "Dollar Store Pokemon."

I remember season 3 premiered like a week before 9/11

I stayed up the night before watching toonami the midnight run with daft punk and gorillaz the night before

Good fucking times

>>12501773
No good games

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>>12509512
I didn't help they had no clue and no design directives, so anything would qualify as a "digimon"; whether it is angels, demons, mechas, androids, dinosaurs, animals, plants, furries, scalies, or you know... titmonsters.
This screams cheap chinese bootlegs you'd find a flea market

At least pokemon imposed the "chassis" to be made of creatures to nature, like plants, animals, rocks, amoebas, etc.

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>>12501773
Lack of consistency and identity, the games just jumped around genres way too much. On one hand that variety is what set Digimon apart, but on the other hand it's hard for fans to remain excited for the next game in the franchise when they never know what they can expect, at least some consistency would have helped.

The franchise as a whole lacked aesthetic consistency too, it started out with a very memorable early-digital fusion between the natural and the mechanical aesthetic that is the one everyone remembers more dearly, and then they kept wildly cycling through styles until recently they seem to have settled down around what I can only describe as a generic Light Novel aesthetic AKA low-budget weebslop.

>>12503896
>>12504687
I didn't like Frontier not because it was too different but because it was actually too much of the same. I went into the show expecting something different due to the Power Rangers shit always beeing told as a radical shift they did with the series and while that's true once you move past that you find that aside from the Power Rangers gimmick Frontier is actually the most bog-standard Digimon story ever told. I also noticed a drastic drop in effort and quality in the animation and illustrations compared to Tamers, the anime budget had most certainly been substantially slashed at this point.