JUST. EMULATE.

New hardware is UNNECESSARY and WASTEFUL.

I don’t trust them enough to preorder it. If it really is a 1:1 relica I might entertain it.

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Dude, they've been selling remanufactured MVS superguns on AliExpress for ages.

Intriguing, especially if it works with mvs adapters. Willing to try it if the quality isn't dogshit.

>>12511717
NOOOO I'VE INVESTED SO MUCH IN MY AES SYSTEM

Will it only have hdmi ports?

>>12511717
is it just an ARM emulator in nice plastic shell again

>>12511756
No it still has an analog port for CRTs.

>>12511760
Also rgb output.

>>12511717
Reprinting games is cool. Those old neogeo games are expensive

>>12511767
That’s the bare minimum as that’s what the original had.

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>>12511767
Should clarify, all aes had optional RGB as well as the more typical composite output, but many versions had really shitty rgb and had to be modded.

The rgb bypass suegery shouldnt be nevessary on the new console.

>>12511720
ewwww i’m not playing in front of a monitor on a stinky pc. stfu trying to tell me what is wasteful, you little shitstain

So its apparently using chips based on the original, so that makes it less a modern mini console and closer to stuff like the Genesis 3 and Core system game gear. Honestly pretty cool, but my pessimistic side makes me think they will fuck it up somehow.

I would definitely buy the system, but will probably avoid the new games unless they are doing proper mask rom chips.

Would be neat though to see aes versions of mvs or cd exclusives like Nightmare in the dark and ironclad.

Nintendo would make so much money by making brand new NES, SNES, and N64 consoles using the same chips or clone chips AND reprinting carts of their own classic games, but they are convinced stringing people along with Nintendo Online's meager line up is the best course of action (even though they could do both at once, as the audience is different).

>>12511717
I have the original AES. I wonder if the repro carts can play on my original AES. Even if that's the case, I already have a flash cart. I'll just wait for the reviews to come out. Also, emulation for the NEO GEO is good these days.

>>12511759
No... They are trying to make new hardware based on the original design, using the same old chipset.

No emulation, no fpga. Now, whether they can pull it off or not and whether it is gonna be even remotely affordable for a fanbase who never had the chance to even see one of those, is another thing.

Having said that, the fact it is gonna be a preorder thing, makes me feel that yeah, its gonna be as expensive and prohibitive as the original. So a new generation of daddy's rich kids will be the only ones to experience what a true console is like.

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>>12511717
>anything but make an actual aes mini

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>>12511828
Ahem

>>12511717
>Looks like they're reprinting classic AES games too.
By putting the rom on an usb stick?

>>12511813
So... Speaking of prices. The main console seems to aim to an around 300$ preorder price while the games are gonna be 50$ a piece.

This sounds WAY too good to be true.

>>12511807
I would buy the shit out of properly manufactured carts for Earthbound Beginnings and the English version of Fire Emblem on nes, starfox 2 and various Nintendo Power and Satellaview titles for snes and dragon hopper and zero racers for virtual boy.

>>12511720
The only good thing about these type of releases is the new original controllers to use on pc. Hope the stick is as good the original.

>>12511828
That was the NeoGeo X.

>>12511851
No. It seems to be actual replica motherboards. They claim the system is fully compatible with the original existing AES carts.

Theres no way those new carts are gonna be using sticks. Having said that, the fact that they are selling them at actual affordable prices makes me think they are gonna be cheap in quality and less durable compared to the originals.

>>12511859
Im curious how they compare to modern NG carts that cost 300 for new games like Kraut Buster and NG.Dev stuff.

>>12511717
What I want to know is what games they're repro-ing. The ones that stick out to me are Shock Troopers (Which never got an AES cart originally, it was MVS exclusive) and Metal Slug 1.

>>12511791
I'm curious as to why no one bothered to make a Neo-Geo-on-a-chip until now. The NeoGeo used a 68000, which was reverse engineered decades ago by companies like TecToy, which produces Genesis clones to this very day. It probably comes down to the fact that cloning a premium Japanese console just wasn't a very high priority for a Brazilian company like TecToy.

>>12511859
>No emulation - Powered by re-engineered ASIC chips
Effectively the same an an FPGA.
The new carts also most likely use one cheap FPGA/ASIC and a few MBs of RAM and some flash instead of the old PCBs filled with chips.

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>>12511717
Oh no, I filed my return last month and spent it all already. This is exciting news, and now I have to start saving up for it. Wish there was some warning so I could have allocated my resources to getting it. It is exactly what I want, an affordable way for me to enjoy the games without resorting to emulation as I've been doing with the CBOX.

>>12511868
If they claim the system is indeed compatible with the original carts, then they cant use that method for their new carts.

Also, they DID mentioned that this is not an fpga approach. They are aware of the difference... Or so they say. Whether if it is indeed true or not is another thing.

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NOOOOOO MY RETIREMENT FUND!!!!!! STOP STOP STOP DO NOT BUY!!!!!

>>12511840
not an aes

>>12511858
they completely bombed that

Would be nice if the popularity of this results in a different company manufacturing actually semi affordable mvs to aes cart adapters.

I don’t like wireless controllers. I think the emf is dangerous

>>12511878
I mean, you don't have to get it. In fact, I'll list the following considerations in regards to playing NEO GEO:

>Emulation for the system is perfect. You can play the games perfectly fine on MAME or FB Neo.
>Not every game you might want would get a reproduction
>In regards to fighting games, Fightcade offers online matches and is based off of FB Neo

If these considerations don't mean much to you, then go ahead, buy it.

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The launch titles for it seem like a good mix of the early games.

The console comes with metal slug for line $250n or $999 with pic related. Or you can buy them for like $80 each.

>>12511869
Arent those consoles still actual NG boards but repurposed? That is still original hardware, the only chinese thing there is those multicarts.

>>12511859
Also, i just checked the store page for the carts. They say the carts are compatible with the original aes console, so no, they cant memory sticks or anything. They have to be the real deal... Only possibly cheaper and easy to break.

>>12511854
>>12511807
Modern Nintendo is about finding innovative ways to cuck their loyal fans. They won’t re release physical games since they figured out tendies will gladly fork out for a monthly subscription to borrow ROMs

>>12511916
>No NAM-1975
>No Metal Slug 2-5
>No Shock Troopers 2
>No Ninja Commando

Why even bother.

>>12511920
>Also, i just checked the store page for the carts. They say the carts are compatible with the original aes console, so no, they cant memory sticks or anything. They have to be the real deal... Only possibly cheaper and easy to break.
How come? There are plenty of flash memory carts for other retro systems.

>>12511927
That is the first batch. If they sell well they will reprint more games.

>>12511872
Having an FPGA doesn't mean it can't have a cartridge slot for original games. Just implement all the data lines to the cart.It also doesn't mean that it has to be inaccurate. If you implement the chips properly, you get the same end result as with original chips.
But it's super easy to mass produce compared to an actual original NEOGEO.mainboard or game.

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>No money idol exchanger
What's the point then

>>12511916
$1000? Shit, I'll stick with FinalBurn Neo.

>>12511963
Thats the ultimate edition (console, 1 extra stick, 1pad, 1 memcard, all 10 games first run).

The console is being priced at 200$ alone or 250$ the white anniversary bundle with Metal Slug. The games are priced at 50$ the piece.

>>12511958
Oh sure, the system is already pretty easy to emulate in any hardware and im sure theres an FPGA implementation just as perfect. But the point here is not accuracy, but authenticity.

If the console and games were to use fpga hardware instead of the original chips, or at least something similar but still compatible, then they would be lying to the public. A disaster identical to the NGX handheld. Neither SNK nor the maker of this new console can afford to lie again.

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>affordable copies of MoTW, Neo Turf Masters, and Metal Slug
I can't habeeb it

>>12511968
Yeah, I got that from the image, but it's hard to consider it when my Batocera machine has every Neo Geo game and then some, and only cost like $70 total. It's hard to justify the purchase, especially in these trying times.

>>12511973
They could use an one time programmable FPGA and say it's an ASIC. There's no functional difference.

>>12511973
FPGA or ASIC, you won't be getting old PCBs filled with old "authentic" chips either way. Everything will be handheld by one chip.

>>12511968
the games are priced at $90 a la carte

what is good on neogeo that isnt metal slug, neo turf masters or fighting games that are only fun if you have a friend who comes over and learns the game with you (I dont have friends)

>>12511717
Bundle is an awesome deal but they'll rip me off in taxes because its over a certain limit. I'll have to split it up.

>>12511791
I think it will end up being something like arm since they are the company that did the Atari 7800+. Their website says nothing like what some people are saying https://plaionreplai.com/pages/neogeo#hardware. Still even just making a white shell for the system is pretty amazing but I think it could be a promo guy going a bit overboard.

>>12511859
So far they were able to make atari 7800 cart including the pokey chip. This is a big step up in chip density though.

>>12511986
I think to make real chips you would need a minimum order of 20k or so, they were able to do it with A7800 carts but I'm half hopeful. Using fpga like Palmer Lucky is pretty inefficient.

>>12511869
At least now you can get a real controller and memory card. I only have the jelly bean controller.

>>12511867
The later Neo Geo boards were not far off from being an SOC. NES, Sega and C64 SOC existed and they could have made them accurate if they cared.

>>12511786
You can emulate with a CRT you know

>>12511813
>using the same old chipset
are those chips in production anymore?

>>12511746
Link for clear Aliexpress Neo Geo mother base?

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>>12511717
I absolutely guarantee that it will not be worth it.

If you want a real period-accurate Neo Geo experience in the ways that matter buy yourself a NOS Seimitsu LS-32/LS40 lever + Omron XW6Z-0011 buttons and mount them in an arcade stick with a Vewlix layout. I recommend a Mayflash F500 V2.

All parts together shouldn't cost you most than about $150. And you'll have the *exact* set-up used on Japanese Neo Geo MVS machines, including what was used in official tournaments.

>>12511717
>Gameplay on the NEOGEO AES+ is not achieved through emulation; instead, the console is powered by its legacy ASIC chips, re-engineered by modern standards to accurately replicate the original machine's
also known as a "system on a chip". The same kind of technology used in the famiclones people have poo-poo'ed for years.

>>12512073
but that's not the AES experience

>>12511720
New hardware is based, fuck you.

>>12512116
wrong

>>12511813
Price is estimated to be 250 USD and 90 for games. The games are pricey, I would have liked to see them be like... 20-30.

>>12512073
>Omron XW6Z-0011
Can these still be found anywhere? I have a NeoCandy 29, but I think I put in Sanwa buttons when I got it (iirc, it originally had random colored buttons in it from its life as a church cab). The joysticks were original but worn to shit, I replaced some of the internals but P1 still isn't the snappiest, I'm guessing some of the microswitches could be worn out.

>>12512118
>Wrong
Wrong. Why the fuck would you not want new retro consoles? WTF is wrong with you? The original Neo Geo is extremely expensive, this is actually an affordable option. Nobody cares about devaluing your expensive retro collection. This is a win for the human race if they don't fuck it up.

>>12512124
And from a quick check, it would seem that these buttons would be borderline impossible to find, much less in new or minimally used condition.

>>12512108
The AES experience is a joke. It's the toy version for lonely gamers at home afraid to play in a public arcade against other human beings.
Play the real big boy Neo Geo, the MVS.

>>12512124
>Can these still be found anywhere?
Yes, if you take the time to sift through the various online auction sites. It won't be as easy as going on amazon and clicking "Add to cart", but they are still around if you put a little effort into it.

>>12512135
>Video game consoles are LE BAD
Also I just want to say this fucker better include USB ports for third part sticks that use them.

>>12512138
Also, the Omron buttons use reed switches (like the Sanwa RG series), so they last an extremely long time. Even if you find some that are beat up and dirty, they can probably be restored.

The Omron buttons are bouncier and have slightly longer throw than the Seimitsu PS-14-G that a lot of people use as substitutes. Strictly speaking, the modern Sanwa and Seimitsu betters are probably objectively better in performance. But if you want the authentic 90s Japan feel you'd go for the Omrons.

>>12512135
>lonely gamers at home
you mean just like your setup?

>>12512138
I guess I'll keep an eye out, didn't see any active or sold listings on either Yahoo or Mercari

>>12512123
Thats actually a steal considering faggy homebrew devs want 300+ per cart for their new games on the system.

>>12512135
The fuck does that have to do with me wanting to play Shock Troopers and Magician Lord?

>>12512174
give him a break
he's only ever played video games not made by fromsoft on fightcade

>>12512173
But compare to flash carts. It's just a ROM device, big deal. Atari sells repro carts for like 30 or 40 I think and this is going to no different. Maybe they're offsetting the console cost. It does look like it comes with a nice arcade stick, probably was expensive.

>>12512174
Both those games suck.

>>12512126
This. They need to start reprinting more retro consoles so we can crash the retro collectors market with no survivors

>>12511720
Go away smelly shitstain :o

>>12511786
>ewwww i’m not playing in front of a monitor on a stinky pc
This is the intelligence and tech level of the average collector.

>>12511828
Why the fuck would you want a mini? Why not the full size console like they are making?

Also they made like 10 different Neo Geo minis so far.

>>12511891
So it HAS to be an AES, but you don't even want a real AES, just a miniature piece of plastic vaguely shaped like one?

>>12512248
also, if you want an AES mini, theres the NGX, its exactly what you are looking for.

>Shaped like an AES
>includes 2 joysticks identical to the originals
>HDMI output.

and it even includes a handheld, which im sure by this point, it has been hacked to a good enough firmware that allows perfect and accurate emulation.

>>12512254
>>includes 2 joysticks identical to the originals
They are not identical. Completely different internals.

>>12511720
Vegan.

>>12512248
>Why the fuck would you want a mini? Why not the full size console like they are making?
Anon. Don't pretend a full sized $250 console with 10 games that cost $90 each is the same as a mini.
>>12512248
>Also they made like 10 different Neo Geo minis so far.
Not an AES mini.
>>12512254
>also, if you want an AES mini, theres the NGX,
Not mini.
Not currently for sale.
Extremely expensive used.

You might not like or care for the concept of a Mini but don't give false solutions that are clearly different than what that person wants. You are fully aware there is no AES Mini.

>>12511813
isn't an ASIC just and FPGA that can't be reprogrammed?

so this just an FPGA that can only play Neo Geo

>>12512262
I use all the money I save emulating on wagyu

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>>12511976
i am SO GLAD i lost auction for MVS copy of Metal Slug 1 last week, I bid 120 bucks andd now i can get AES copy of BOTH Metal Slug AND Big Tournament Golf for the same price, versus paying $100,000+ for the originals

>>12511720
i emulate when i want to play
i buy physical because it looks pretty on a shelf
or at least AES games do XD

>>12511717
It would be cool if it was 100% accurate (it won't be).

>>12512057
Google "Neo Geo MVS Aliexpress". There's even a few that have been modded with Saturn controller ports.

>>12512265
what's the point of an AES mini over the other Neo Geo minis? So it can literally look like a miniature version of the AES, yet with identical guts to the other minis they've made so far?

Is that all it is to you? Just a literal piece of particularly colored and shaped plastic you want to put on your shelf with no other regards to it's capabilities?

>>12512389
>So it can literally look like a miniature version of the AES
Yes.
>Just a literal piece of particularly colored and shaped plastic you want to put on your shelf
Go into a hundred different homes and do you know what you'll see, shelves full of things. Do you demand every single one be explained "logically"? I said "You might not like or care for the concept of a Mini" and I don't expect you personally to care any more than I am to understand someone's love of stamps or coins or action figures. It's a little collectable that you hook up to your TV and play games with in the shape of a console you like, that's it, you don't need to like it.
If someone collects them and they have a SNES and Genesis and a TG16 and a ect, ect, of course they are going to want the Neo Geo one to look like the console, otherwise they'd just use a drab Chinese emubox.

>>12511717
How reliable of a retailer is this place and do they have a good track record of replicating the advertised consoles they sale?

>>12511976
>>12512284
I'm thankful I only paid like $240 for my Garou MVS and $50 for my Metal Slug 1 MVS. I have MSX & 3, Turf Masters, Samurai Shodown 2 and Realbout 2 as well that I got for no more than like $140 I think for Turf Master. I'm just happy there are more options available.

>>12511717
This is a gigantic fuck you to collectors. There was no need for this garbage.

>>12512467
>t. collector
I collected the MVS cards and I am still excited for this.

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>>12511717
Looking forward to November :)

>>12512251
if I'm going to buy a fake neogeo, yes. all I wanted was an aes mini with proper neocd pads. I don't give a fuck about hoarding plastic. and I don't want some plastic barbie doll sized mvs mini cabinet with fucked up dpads.

if you wanna pay nearly a hundred bucks a game for repros of 30 year old games, more power to you. me, I ain't doing it. I'd buy a mister before that.

>>12512467
fuck collectors

>>12512467
I collect aes and mvs carts and im very excited for this if they can produce something of acceptable quality.

>>12512486
I would be willing to throw down for the giga nigga pack if they elaborated on whats going to be inside the carts component wise.

Can someone link to the preorder page? I'm getting 404'd

>>12512625

>>12512221
correct

>>12512221
This Plaion company needs to flood the market. Also can't wait for the chinese clones of it. The future is looking based

>>12512662
Cartridges

>>12511717
I ordered that model and Turf Masters since I really wanted it and it seems like it will be good. If they fuck up then I will just refund through paypal and gets my shit back. But they are adding an extra course to the AES+ cart of Neo Turf Masters that was only on the CD version: Scotland.

>>12512690
It seems to work for me.

>>12511976
Please elaborate on your line of thinking here.
Why don't you just play the games right now through the multitude of means available to you?

>MVS copies of those games
>Emulation
>ports
>Neo Geo flash carts and multi-carts

Do you even care about playing games? Or do you just want a piece of plastic to put on a shelf? But in this case, since it's a reprint/re-issue, what's the point of even that?

>>12512690
It appears they are only doing pre-orders in select countries.

Man, the resurgence of SNK has been awesome. Don't fuck this up.

>>12512823
SNK of the 90s is now Dimps.

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>>12511916
Can you order the EUR version of the console from there, but with Japanese games, and will they be compatible?

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I am really tempted to pre-order bros, talk me out of it. I feel like I'm gonna get bamboozled but everything looks really good on paper.

>>12512798
I already own an AES and want to play them on it.

>>12512860
I'd wait till reviews and hands on impressions start pouring in but I can't lie, I'm interested.,

>>12512798
Please elaborate on your line of reason. Not the suggestion of alternative means but you're complete inability to understand why people might want something?

I'm only interested in the joysticks.

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>>12512662
This?

>>12512860
IF YOU DON'T PREORDER 5 MINUTES AGO YOU WILL MISS OUT!!!! THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY AND YOU MUST ACT NOW BEFORE RESELLERS UP THE PRICE 10,000%!!!! YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT DO YOU???

>>12512936
They mean "What kind of components are inside the Game Carts and Console".

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>>12511720
t.

>>12512860
You will own everything, but yet you still feel empty inside

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Am I really a big enough retard to spend 1500 AUD on an overpriced console?

yes

>>12512969
It really is like this though.

>>12512823
Whayty else can you say
The Saudis love Neo Geo

>>12512272
No

>>12512930
I don't even see why anyone would want the original sticks, when they're just downgraded seimitsu clones inside a junky plastic shell. the original sticks were great, for their era, but these days those sticks may as well say madcatz.

>>12511717
It's a collectors item. AES games are so god damn expensive, ain't nobody buying them for playing, especially when MVS games and systems are a fraction of the price.
Will be interesting to see what the guts of this thing look like though, and how well it plays with encrypted carts like Metal Slug X, or multi-link games like Thrash Rally.

>>12513224
They're making the games so you can buy them a lot cheaper anon
Also the guts will most likely be the same with a HDMI out and ASICs that will be fairly similar

>>12513232
>100 a pop
>cheaper
knockoff mvs carts are 50bux a pop off ali

>>12513245
No need to even buy counterfeits, there's plenty of real MVS carts on AliExpress as well for just as cheap. After all, they made thousands of copies of these games, and your electronic waste has to end up somewhere.

>>12513245
Sure, but these aren’t KO and from what they’ve said, they’re made to spec off the original schematics
Also, no one’s stopping you from buying knockoffs from aliexpress

>>12513312
>they’re made to spec off the original schematics
yeah, like all those limitedrun cartridges, huh

fuck it, I just did the most diabolical and pathetic thing I preordered

>>12513332
We'll see

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>>12513345

imagine collecting re-releases with inferior chink hardware for the same price as an used original console lmao

it'll have both RGB and composite
>https://www.gamesradar.com/hardware/retro/the-neo-geo-aes-is-back-but-the-retro-console-remake-is-effectively-the-real-deal-reborn-with-hdmi/
>"I reached out to PLAION to check whether the new system still supports both RGB and composite, and it turns out it'll do both while also offering stereo sound"

>>12511813
>They are trying to make new hardware based on the original design
>whether they can pull it off or not is another thing
So it's not finalized?

>>12512936
he’s saying are the boards on the carts gonna be legit or just some chink hack job like repros often are.

>>12513480
I got it, hors cock.

>>12513480
At 80$ a piece, the games better be the real fucking deal.
I can't see why that company would tarnish their reputation.

>>12513423
imagine being poor

Let's say i don't mind bootlegs as long as it's serious enough, where would i get them?
(box+cover as well)

>>12513163
sorry, I think it is. they aren't reproducing the original boards and chips.

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>>12511920
The CBOX/pandora box does take MVS cartridges. I've got a few Fatal Fury games and KOF2000 carts that aren't on those multicarts.

>>12512042
There's been a lot of good new controllers that are very close to the originals lately. I hope they go full on with the microswitches with the pads that came with the CD systems, as I prefer those over joysticks.