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>>12514553
>game manuals recommended using autofire controllers
>manuafacturers made first party premium autofire controllers
>TG16 came with them by default
>hurrr its cheating!

>>12514553
revolver ocelot will cut your weenie off

>>12514562
>>game manuals recommended cheating
>>manuafacturers made first party premium cheats
lol
>TG16 came with them by default
Your only valid case. On all other platforms it's cheating.

>>12514584
When the game developer specifically says "use an autofire turbo button" it is the how the game is meant to be played.
Simple as.

>>12514587
>>When the game developer specifically says "cheat" it is the how the game is meant to be played.
>Simple as.
?

>>12514603
It's amazing how much /vr/ discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible.

>>12514635
>discourse
>nintendo game players
incompatible

>>12514587
There's no such thing as "meant to be played". The rules are there, in the code. You're the one in charge to overcome the challenges whatever way you see fit.
And if it's too easy, then use something called "self-restraint" and "discipline" and learn to accept failure and endure frustration, if necessary.

Game developers are not your dad to constantly tell what to do. You're 18+, you know what to do. Be a responsible adult and own it.

Cheating should only be considered under competitive circumstances, where the level playing field is of utmost importance. Otherwise, it's up to the player. Do what you will.

save state and rewind

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>>12514553
I used continues on Genesis' Altered Beast, though the manual literally says how to do it and encourages you to do so... is it still cheating?

>>12514663
>The rules are there, in the code.
Written by the guy who had autofire in mind when making those rules in the code mind you. Consider Mario Party mashing minigames where players are expected to use regular controllers without autofire; the players who can mash effectively are the only ones that can actually compete. If the other players object to skilled players mashing, everyone either have to nerf their mashing or allow autofire. Neither of which are fair choices.

>>12514563
I don't buy it

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Button mashing used to be considered a skill in itself. Entire games were built around that idea, you wouldn't play Track & Field with auto fire that'd be stupid, and the same goes for some SHMUPs. It's all on a per game basis however.

>>12514584
First generation of PC-Engine didn't have autofire so if we're talking an early game that was made before the console had autofire (and which may have been ported to TG 16 afterwards), then it's still cheating

>>12515543
How many games could that possibly be?

>>12514690
Those are not cheating. You still have to beat every part of the game once.

Having to reload and rewalk to a randomized treasure chest 50+ times to get the item you need is not any difficult. It just wastes lots of time. Save states can turn this 2 hour task into a <1 minute task.