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>Gigi and Nerissa are collabing with males
thoughts?
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>I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite thread on the Catalog
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It's funny how Nerissa doesn't stream for her "dear" jailbirds, but happily agrees to this shit, apparently she really is trying to kill her last gachikois.
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>>111127377
lia did one of these DND things a couple years ago. dreaded it going in, but it was a fun watch.
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>>111127377
My wish is that EN is just straight up closed. Fuck ill trade holostars jp/en staying open for holo en being closed and i dont even watch those faggots. Just please get this twitch girls out of the company
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>>111127931
har har
what I expected going in
>god the stupid fit VAs are gonna virtually fuck her :(
the reality
>they were dorks dressed in hawaiian shirts and chainmail. faye matas tits were hanging out for most of it. the women acting like theatre kids. the dm making jokes about the toronto maple leafs
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>>111128315
You mean the nip comedian known for sticking his ass in idols faces?
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that's commander shepard so I'll allow it
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this is the funniest seethe ever
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>>111129287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXJC0_RgeLA
Here you go
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This is the definition of a colab in a professional setting,plus there's no holostars involved so this is probably why the sisters are seething. It could even be fun.
>>111129511
Who even cares what a faggot anti pretending to be a unicorn thinks?
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>>111127377
All unicorns should put a shotgun in their fat mouths and spray their brains all over their bedroom walls. REEEE MY OSHI WHO DOESN'T KNOW/CARE I EXIST SPOKE TO MAN REEEE MY OSHI WAS IN THE VACINITY OF A MALE I CAN'T WATCH THEM REEEEEEE Worthess autiatic whiny pissa faggots Vtubing would be better without retards like (you)
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>>111129511
They professionals so they get pass
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>>111128002
>women that are uncomfortable around men
>gigi and nerissa
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>>111131477
Nope, only sponsorsloppa sometimes.
A very disappointing loss of such a great model and voice.
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>>111127377
How many times do I have to explain this?
No one cares about promotional interactions with interviewers, con panel hosts, professionals, etc.
The reason that fans hate male collabs is because they don't want to watch the girl they like develop a deeper, closer friendship with a male in her peer group than with them. It makes fans feel like a third wheel and it feels like "cucking" to gachikoi.
With celebrities and professionals that are brought on to promote something or talk about their profession or whatever, there's very little chance of them actually becoming friends and fucking their oshi. They are not a threat.
No one realistically thinks that Miko is still talking to the shinto priest she featured in one of her anniversary streams or adding him to Line or going out with him for drinks or whatever. He showed her how to pray at a shrine and that's it.
No one thinks that Laplus and Jared Leto exchanged contact info after she interviewed him and that she's secretly fucking him (even if her fans assume she probably would), they know that there's very little chance that Leto is interested in her.
That isn't the case with e-celebs, homostars, and fuckboys that their oshi starts collabing more and more with. They become closer and closer and eventually they'll probably end up meeting and hanging out with them off-stream. Would Towa's fans be surprised if they ever found out that she was meeting up with and hanging out with Tachi? Probably not.
The holos that collab with stars like Bae, Shiori, and Liz have all talked about hanging out with the stars they collab with when they're in Japan.
These male ecelebs and holostars are basically just a bunch of mini Sykkunos.
Look at Fauna and Vesper for example. Even though they never collabed on stream, they were in the same peer group and were obviously meeting up off-stream. If Fauna had collabed with Northern Lion, very few would've had a problem with it because there's basically very little chance of anything developing, but if she had collabed with Vesper, her fans would have been rightfully worried. After all, she ended up destroying hololive EN over her relationship with him.
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>>111134183
It's not my fault if you and other troons like you are too stupid to understand the difference between a female streamer talking to a male curator at a museum for a project versus playing games with and becoming close friends with someone like Sykkuno.
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>>111134975
These guys are famous, well established voice actors that are married and nearly twice their age, anon. They aren't fuckboys with emo side-swept hair that play Valorant and Overwatch and only seem to play with young female streamers for "some reason".
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>>111135305
one kind of tried for some years, but failed lmao
https://twitchtracker.com/vincecaso/streams
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>>111134608
Gigi could've picked anyone to bring onto her 3D debut.
She willingly picked a flesh male
Similarly, FuwaMoco could've picked anyone to work with, but they chose the fat balding man known for farting on idols.
They can always say no.
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>>111128014
>Anime Central
>They actually manage to land Gura when Hololive was first doing con appearances
>Shit the bed so badly Hololive never comes back
>They now have to settle for Phase Connect
Grim
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>>111137293
She could have decided NOT to have an old male dance around with her in the 3D studio but instead she did. She could've picked a girl or just chosen a different setting altogether.
Then afterwards, she directly stated that she could've chosen other options but specifically chose the flesh male herself.
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>>111127377
I think it's shit but it's an event, it literally doesn't count. Nerissa is very much capable of ruining her channel by collabing with some shitty eceleb to own the chuds on her own. She doesn't need a professional event for this.
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>>111137706
>No, because there is none.
NTA.
See, I think you're attempting to false flag and poison the well here. If you're unwilling to differentiate between them appearing with a professional in an impersonal setting such as at the studio and them playing games with, becoming friends, and growing closer to male streamers, ecelebs, and sexpests, then what you're saying is the distinction is meaningless. If that is your position (which happens to be the position of most homobeggars), then none of the girls are worth watching because literally every single one has appeared on stream with a male in some capacity. This conclusion is exactly what sisters want because then it presents the false dichotomy of either supporting all of the holos or none of them.
Indeed, such people would even disingenuously argue that the girls interact with males all the time, from cashiers to hololive staff, and so they claim anyone getting upset at their oshi talking about a holostar's cock on stream has no right to be upset.
So I'm not sure how one arrives at the conclusion that Gigi paying a 60 year old Japanese man to act like a wizard for her silly show is the same as Bae or Shiori or Liz collabing with holostars and hanging out with them in real life, or Kobo inviting two of them over to stay at her house. It sounds to me like you don't understand WHY fans don't like male collabs, and the only reason I can think of would be because you're lying and are actually a holostars fan.
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>>111143928
NTA but I believe all this is a fat wad of shite and cope. At the end of the day, whether you like it or not homos are professionally hired employees working under a company and those collabs are done with the same purpose i.e to entertain.
The only difference between a homo and these other people is your hatred of them/ or their level of popularity. I've generally noticed unicorns don't mind male collabs if the male is actually popular. But anyways I dislike homos myself but I'm no hypocrite and don't try to sugarcoat that le professional is a shitty buzzword adopted by people like you as a form of cope even when you're using it wrongly.
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>>111144170 (me)
I also find it hilarious that you think them being in a "le professional setting" means anything when they have to rehearse with one another and make introductions off-stream for streams like this, giving them ample time to get to know each other
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Which situation do you suppose is more likely to result in a relationship?
A) Subaru inviting a 50+ year old science professor onto her charity program to explain how liquid nitrogen works
B) A holo playing apex/valorant with a holostar or male eceleb their own age who is single and has a history of dating girls he streams with.
One of these two situations facilitates a friendship outside of any kind of professional setting and the other likely does not. One results in them exchanging personal information including contact information and the other is done through the company. One results in them going to escape rooms together, maybe as part of a group, or going out for meals after dancing together and the other doesn't. If you don't understand why men and women working at the same company or working in the same profession would be more likely to date, then you're either a complete fucking retard, absolutely naive about how relationships form, or you're a sister trying to poison the well.
The fact that you just claimed the homos are professional when one of them was literally caught fucking and currently living with an ex-holo leads me to believe the latter.
Who is your oshi, cunt? Is it Octavio? Jurard maybe?
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>>111144635
Cool it. I didn't say the homos were professional by behavior, just profession which is the proper definition, if you want to count behavior then homos are significantly less problematic than people in the western voice acting industry who have tons of red tape coming out practically every other day. stories of cheating, backstabbing, agenda pushing and constant scandals.
As I said earlier, important promotional events like this are rehearsed beforehand and they talk and get to know one another to prevent problems in the actual stream. You are the one who thinks people of the opposite gender interacting = sex but you apply it one-way because your mental fragility would crumble if you didn't since you have your own agendas at play here.
The situations are literally no different, you have voice actors playing with holos, who are also voice actors
>One results in them going to escape rooms together, maybe as part of a group, or going out for meals after dancing together and the other doesn't
There's zero reason to think only the former happens and the latter doesn't.
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>>111144635
>Which situation do you suppose is more likely to result in a relationship?
You forgot C) when they fly in a male to dance with them in person and thus have the opportunity to physically touch each other
Meanwhile B is halfway across the planet and under the same company, thus expected to actually treat this as a job rather than as an opportunity to meet in person to do who knows what after the cameras turn off.
Your cope is truly baffling, especially since there hasn't been a single case of a homostar actually harassing or getting into a relationship with a holomem through stream collabs.
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>The fact that you just claimed the homos are professional when one of them was literally caught fucking and currently living with an ex-holo leads me to believe the latter.
Oh no. Which one? How many times did they collab? Why didn't she do her due diligence by avoiding male collabs at all costs so that it wouldn't happen? I bet that holomem was a huge slut that homocollabbed weekly.
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>you believe men and women talking = sex
>my girlfriend going over for a sleepover at her friend's house is fine! It shouldn't matter if they're a boy or a girl! Men and women can just be friends too. If you don't think so, you are a fragile male.
This is you. You are obviously a sister.
See? I can make straw men too. Except this isn't even a straw man. This is just what you actually believe.
Again. You are a fool if you think them talking to professionals in an impersonal setting one time or being instructed together on when to say lines by a director is the same as a holo regularly collabing with and getting to know a holostar or some efuckboy that is their same age and profession. You are trying to play dumb and suggest that some male interviewer or the 50 year old scientist has the same probability of forming a close friendship with these girls as someone who regularly spends hours playing games and having fun with them as if they were part of hololive. That's fucking insane. You are following the tactics in my post >>111143928 to a T.
And predictably, your unironic use of feminist terms like "fragility" proves you're a woman.
Get lost, you repulsive, conniving bitch. This is your last (You) from me.
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>>111145223
>if a => b
>then a <=> b
As expected of a woman.
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>>111145327
>MUH STRAWMAN
>Pulls out a strawman himself
We aren't talking about a 50 year old scientist here you braindead fucktard. We are talking about famous voice actors who are similar in age and profession. and no, you have no idea how these type of collabs work
Again, you are the one who's actively cuckposting and equivalating interactions of opposite gender with sex, your only basis being Vesper and Fauna, two unprofessional individuals and one of them who was a unicorn queen who avoided any and all male collabs up until the end of her career.
I'm simply calling you out for the braindead hypocrite you are.
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>>111145392
This retarded unicorn's logic is
>people who disagree with me and destroy my arguements are woman
pathetic kek
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>>111144635
If it were holos and professional VAs announcing the next line of gundam kits or something then it wouldnt be an issue. sitting down at a table for a dnd campaign crosses into the '4 hours of apex and chill' territory.
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I find it humorous that this cumdump landwhale is trying to call me retarded when at the same time arguing that no one should be concerned about their oshi collabing with holostars because one of them that didn't collab with them ended up fucking them. See? They're uhhh... harmless?
Clearly this must mean that if your oshi doesn't collab with them and become close friends on stream, then they must be fucking them off-stream, right? Maybe now this stupid bitch will understand how I was mocking her progression of logic in >>111145392
But probably not. She's probably confused by what a and b means.
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>>111145582
Answer the question, anon.
This is literally your reasoning for calling one chuuba a whore but not another.
How many times did this ex-holomem collab on stream with the homostar you claim to be her partner?
It's a very simple question.
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>>111145446
You aren't completely wrong. I would say that if my oshi did this, it'd make me a bit more uncomfortable than a normal panel or interview or whatever.
But my main point is that these kinds of things aren't black and white and most people making that argument are doing so in bad faith, for various reasons, including false flagging.
Instead, these kinds of things should be viewed as a spectrum. On one end you have Kanata, on the other you have someone like Towa or Liz. I suppose Kobo would be the furthest from Kanata, considering she had two stars fly out to her to stay at her house in Indonesia, but that's such an outlier, that it's absurd to consider.
I would still consider something like this event to be closer to the Kanata side than the Liz side. Not only are they not actually there in person, but this is a one time event supervised and controlled by a DM. It's not a few friends having a fun DnD sesh on a Friday night. These VAs have nothing to do with vtubing or even streaming either, and I believe both of them are married.
Would I be happier if Gigi and Nerissa weren't doing it? Sure. But it's ridiculous to compare this event or Gigi's wizard or Korone having that famous children's show host on her puppet show to holos that become extremely close to male streamers.
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>>111145834
Your point never made sense by admission of your own logic when the only sample size of holos we have who have gotten into relationships with streamers/celebs are two unicorn queens in Rushia and Fauna. The former of whom hooked up with someone from a completely different setting and industry, someone most unicorns would consider a professional. Your entire argument hinges on
>stream interactions and stories = higher chance of the people involved hooking up
when history has proven anything but
For the record I will outright say I would be happy if the homo branch died and was buried overnight because I think they are effectively leeches who contribute nothing to the company.
I just think your logic is backward as fuck by applying standards one way when both situations in this case are similar and the hypotheticals you present have no bearing on what you are trying to imply i.e collabing with homos means you are fucking them. I would respect you significantly more if your argument was based on the fact that you don't like homos and their character which is why you are okay with this dnd collab, in which case I would get it. but you are actively trying to cuckpost about holos who do collab with homos, which is where my problem with you lies.
>>111145960
The only person involved who's arguing in bad faith is the one you are replying to
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>>111145748
I'll give it to you one last time since you seem to be craving my massive, girthy, throbbing (You) so badly.
The fault in your logic is that you believe I said that the only way to be a whore is to collab with males. I didn't. This is the point made in >>111145392 that you didn't understand.
In fact, looking back at what I wrote, I don't think I ever called any holo that collabs with males a whore. I just implied that the ones that do are generally not worth watching.
Personally, there's exceptions, however. Sora occasionally collabs with males, usually professionally, however they are still often vtubers, and I wouldn't consider her a whore. And I even occasionally watch Towa if she's in a collab or playing an interesting single player game. But I wouldn't oshi her. Her interactions with Tachi "give me the ick" as you insufferable brown holes would say.
However, Fauna is a whore and so is Gura. And Gura isn't even marrying or involved with a holostar.
I hope this helps you as you schlick to the thought of me raping your smelly gash and spitting in your mouth or whatever it is you wanted. I assume that's the reason for why you're still bothering everyone here with your embarrassing and asinine arguments.
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>>111146290
So in other words, male collabs are okay, except when they're not, and the only difference to whether or not they're okay is if you can convince yourself that it's okay to be cucked sometimes.
Great job, anon! You proved yourself to have no standards whatsoever!
Fucking hilarious.
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>>111146290
You literally said
>If you don't understand why men and women working at the same company or working in the same profession would be more likely to date, then you're either a complete fucking retard, absolutely naive about how relationships form, or you're a sister trying to poison the well
Once again, I would respect you more if your stance was
>I don't want these holos to form friendships with males
but you tried to imply the ones that do are fucking
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>>111146346
If that's what you've managed to take away from all this, then I'll go ahead and let you think that. There's very little chance of you ever understanding why the people who hate holostar collabs are not going to fill the catalog with Gigi/Nerissa hate threads when this panel happens. And there's even less reason for me to actually expend the effort trying.
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>>111146545
Oh, I know they won't.
Because it's usually the same 2-3 IPs at most so obsessed with holostars that they bother to make threads in the first place.
You'll never change, either. You'll just continue to get "cucked" over and over again as every single chuuba you crawl to ends up "betraying" you.
Just like Rushia, Elfin, Gumpai, Denpafish, Fauna, Shiina, Lumi...
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>>111146464
>I don't want these holos to form friendships with males
I literally said as much four or five times. My entire line of reasoning, stated over and over again from the beginning, was that they are more likely to form close relationships with those in their peer group, age bracket, profession, etc. Both Gura and Fauna's "friends" are male streamers, btw. So was Rushia's.
The voice of Commander Shepard is not going to be fucking Nerissa or Gigi. Do you not understand how ridiculous that sounds? But as you've pointed out while trying to prove me wrong, there already is precedent for holos fucking male streamers, including a holostar.
You can't be sure that your oshi isn't friends with male e-celebs behind the scenes. But if you know for sure that she is because she is friends with them on-stream, then there's no reason you should stick around because that's a giant red flag. That's the point.
What's actually retarded is saying something along the lines of: "you can't know for sure, so therefore if you DO know for sure, then you should just accept that."
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>>111146805
>etc. Both Gura and Fauna's "friends" are male streamers, btw. So was Rushia's.
But they never streamed together.
Which is what you're complaining about. Obviously they're going to be more likely to form relationships with male streamers, but you seem to be avoiding the fact that these relationships aren't happening with the ones they're streaming with.
How many of these girls started relationships with people they actually streamed with? Hell, history's shown time and time again that the male collabers are more likely to be single than the "unicorn-friendly" vtubers.
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>>111146805
The precedent you are quoting were literally unicorn queens who until after the fact, no one on the planet would have guessed were like that because they treated males on-stream as holos as taboo
>You can't be sure that your oshi isn't friends with male e-celebs behind the scenes. But if you know for sure that she is because she is friends with them on-stream, then there's no reason you should stick around because that's a giant red flag
Once again that's your own standard of what constitutes as a red flag. For me a red flag is and always will be someone who goes super out of their way to avoid males altogether, because that's what the sample size has taught me
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>>111146662
>Oh, you'll see. YOU'LL ALL SEE!!!
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>>111127377
I'm so fucking glad I dropped this whore last year when she started showing warning signs. Fuck Nerissa, fuck the homos, hope she graduates.
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>>111146852
>Hell, history's shown time and time again that the male collabers are more likely to be single than the "unicorn-friendly" vtubers.
You don't know about Liz's "joke" ring photo or Shiori's travel oopsie, do you?
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>>111147064
Raora may be a massive whore but I unironically respect her for keeping her image clean while in holo, even more so now that all these "gfe Idol" chuubas can't fucking keep themselves away from cocks at any opportunity they get.
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>>111147217
I mean, yeah?
It'd be kind of hard to betray your unicorn fans if you were someone like Liz or Shiori who never had any at all to begin with, no?
>the worst military court martials happened to people in the military
Wow, that's quite profound there, buddy.
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>>111147211
Mark Meer was the voice for the protagonist of Mass Effect, an extremely popular video game series from 20 years ago. It doesn't make you look cool, it makes you look like an out of touch zoomer for not knowing him.
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>>111147187
I think the extreme backlash to Fauna proves that "I don't care what else she did, she kept her image clean when she was in Holo and that's enough for me" was always a cope people used because they wanted to support a Holo but knew they couldn't claim she was squeaky clean. There are very few who they can honestly say they have never fallen even a single time.
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>>111147480
Most of these people are newfag tourists. It's hilarious that they think Fauna was ever considered a "unicorn queen" when people were complaining about both Lemonleaf and Shachimu getting in during the Council Debut thread sticky and posting their ex-"friends" in that thread. That was day fucking one. I remember when anyone posting a screenshot from a certain early 2000s cartoon network show was instantly banned. Even if it was just a plank with a face drawn on it.
And I remember hoomans tried denying shachi's art looked kinda familiar for a humorously long time.
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>>111147480
Fauna didn't keep her image clean in holo though, anyone who didn't understand what the "WE ARE NOT FRIENDS" rant was implying is a retard who deserved the LLD. I unsubbed from her right then and there and never looked back.
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>>111147684
I got away with being pretty clever about it once, here's one of my old shitposts: >>74772616
The guy seething and calling a link to a cartoon OP "dox" was fucking hilarious. Like yes, some people understand what it's implying, but you'd have to be completely off your rocker to think the theme song on its own somehow constitutes dox.
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>>111147927
I'm not a sapling or whatever her fandom as Nimi is referred to as. I liked that she was consistent with her time slot but she wasn't ever really a favorite of mine. Guess its my lack of interest that's to blame for my obliviousness here.
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Lets be real here nobody wants their illusion of 'availability' shattered. Its why idol culture places significant efforts on talents not dating, or at least the illusion of it. The flesh person behind could be being fucked by me right now and absolutely nobody would want to hear about it.
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>>111134608
Sisters have been gaslit by male vtubers their entire lives, so they naively believe the same manipulative tactics will work on unicorns. It won’t. Sisters despise real men and everything they stand for, yet they worship male vtubers precisely because male vtubers aren’t actual men—they’re a sanitized, performative mockery of masculinity. Unicorns hate male vtubers because they perfectly embody everything sisters represent: weakness, deception, and betrayal of authentic manhood. This isn’t about hating men. It’s about recognizing male vtubers as a parasitic virus that needs to be purged from the community.
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My personal opinion on this is that I don't care all that much about streams of this nature. I just plain and simple don't like holostars or even most male streamers. Especially the popular ones that are on such a level where they could collab with anyone from hololive. They're annoying and I'd rather not have to endure their presence for longer than necessary.
To me, this is just a professional stream for networking purposes and bringing a bigger audience to hololive. I highly doubt this will end with some massive scandal where it turns out Nerissa and Gigi could suck the chrome off a trailer hitch/a golf ball through a garden hose and was giving everyone (even the ladies) a turn. But I'm wrong about a lot of things, so whatever.
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>>111156648
What did you think about the trash taste podcast Mori did all those years back? Because that is no different than this either, an attempt to reach out to a bigger audience. The only difference is that HoloEN actually mattered back then and it was purely promotional whereas this is likely a paid apperearance.
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>>111127377
This is some stupid shit for an event. But still, GG is one of those fake as fuck tumblr "asexual" types that just magically and suddenly start craving for some cock and Nerissa has slowly but surely been more and more open about her NEED to be surrounded by cocks. Whether it's surrounded by men with their cocks out or just floating disembodied cocks, makes no difference to her, she fucking NEEDS cock in her mouth and asshole and she won't do karaoke streams.
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I don't think I cared at the time mostly because I wasn't as jaded about content creators as I am now, but my opinion of trash taste isn't very good nowadays. So back then, I didn't care. If it happened today, I'd probably call it lame and retarded. But as you yourself said, this is probably a paid appearance. So it will feel a lot different to a "male collab" that I wouldn't be a fan of. It's hard to explain and 100% varies person to person but it just doesn't upset me in the way collabing with a holostar or big streamer would. I know my outlook is probably weird but that's just how it is.