I wish I could go back in time to tell all those space program engineers that their life's work will just end up in museums and in less than 50 years, the species will completely give up on spaceflight. Money and race will become more important than anything else and will drown out every other pursuit.
>>8012021 You aren't thinking about this right. Through industrialization we consumed the one time use energy ladder from wood to nuclear. That won't have a chance to reform before the planet becomes uninhabitable.
Put another way, if you put 18th century human on a planet with today's oil situation, they never would make the leap from coal to oil. The oil would be impossible for their technology to access. In their day oil would shoot out of the ground if you dug a shallow well, in our day you need to be able to build and operate fracking or deep sea oil rigs. It costs nearly a barrel of oil in energy to get a barrel out of the ground.
So this brief window we have had for the past 100 years or so. That is the only chance life gets.
>>8012070 All the more reason why we need zero point vacuum energy systems put into mainstream global production and usage right now.
Thing is, the technology, and knowledge of how to make that work, is already out there, it's all just been locked away from public access for the last 100 years or so by the lobbyists for the various existing energy production companies (coal, oil, gas, solar, nuclear, etc.) and their political allies, all because there's no way to meter individual energy usage in a zero point vacuum energy system in the same way that you get a gas or electricity bill today, thus the energy companies and governments can't make any money from it, while at the same time such systems would immediately reduce the energy consumption costs for the production and transportation of just about everything from food to clothes to cars to spaceships down to just about zero.
>>8012470 You fundamentally misunderstand vacuum energy. Yes, vacuum has a certain amount of energy, but because that is the same everywhere it is useless. Imagine you have a set of lakes that are connected to each other via canals that can be closed off. If the water levels differ in the different lakes you can install water wheels or something that will extract energy from the flow of water between the lakes. But if the water level is the same everywhere there's no way to extract any energy, regardless how high the water level is. That is the conundrum we have with this vacuum energy. If you want to extract it you need a place with less energy than the vacuum, but there is no such place inside our universe.
>>8012476 Also if you do manage to extract energy from the vacuum that means the vacuum was metastable and you will cause a chain reaction as the vacuum collapses to the lower energy state in the entire universe. Basically a second big bang
There's a WP i've been looking for so long I think it's completely lost It's a really high definition photo of the cockpit of a F-117A If someone has it or has something similar to that, please share it
>>8012476 >>8012070 Better post than what you see on /sci/. It's depressing and it's exactly like that. If a global cataclysm wipes modern civilization out, we will never see things like cars, skyscrapers, computers, airplanes etc. again.
>>8019221 You're looking at a time where more countries are launching space programs than any other point in history and complaining that space is over already.
>>8012470 >the technology, and knowledge of how to make that work, is already out there source? or is it completely baseless speculation and jumping to conclusions? genuinely interested any examples or proof at all i would greatly love to read, even if just for entertainment purposes
>>8033376 Welp, it just flipped the image 90 degrees. Anyone want to suggest a fix? I'm guessing it's due to the size of the pic itself, but resizing it through nomacs will probably be even more shit. Awesome.
>>8000962 >>8049808 most probably a R-something Mercedes, from 250sl to 450sl, or a w123/w126 chassis. I had one for 5 years, my god, what a cluster. It was a w123 300d td om617 engine. It's a common sight in all of the 1979-1993 Mercedes Benz
>>8072996 Well yeah. I didn't say it didn't. Just that they're the same. What doesn't make sense, is the dude painted over part of the arm and the right leg, but left the ultra low res thigh on the left. Or you know, how the dude just used some shitty photoshop as his source reference.
>>8012470 Zero point vacuum energy is a meme currently, you can't harness energy out of a quantum vacuum for practical application because the energy coefficient is both minuscule and also distributed over a vast interstellar distance. That the energy exists at all through the process of entropy is interesting on its own but it would take a K2 civilization at a minimum to even consider collecting it on a galactic scale.
>>8115726 This makes me miss long road trips at night by myself. Putting on some good music and just staring down the headlights seeing the light fade as the sunsets.
>>8115724 Thats a Mitsubishi Lancer F from the 90s or at least something similar. It was my family's first car but ours didn't have an rpm readout. That car is the main reason why I still prefer japanese cars.
>>8012070 your heart is in the right place but talking points are mostly wrong. you should make more of an effort to read up on this via scientific journals rather than advocacy groups' web sites, or listening to uni activists.