>>42255969
I don't care.

>>42255976
>heh. I did the thing he said I would do >:)
>libtard = owned

>>42255969
wow stop eating meat anytime

the animals dont care. they know god chose this for them.

>>42256015
Then why so they look scared and try to get away, why do they need restraints? Christniggers are so full of shit. To your vile god you are just like the cows are to you.

>>42255976
Same, but more smugly

>>42256040
its not because they are afraid of pain. aninals are scarsely afraid of pain. thats not the reason at all. they are scared of the demonic vibe so to speak animals have a good way of guessing vibes, of the slaughterers and ceos of those companies and the people who run the ceos and the slaughterers and control the world. animals know who rules the world they are all xtards. these aninals know they did many sins, and they may pay for it i dont know but id be afraid too of death if i was such a sinner. and yes, god doesnt give two damns about any of this. hes aloof and doesnt care. why should he. what can we offer him. how holy are we compared to him.

>>42255969
I agree industrial scale slaughter is evil for profit.
But even when you kill the animal personally it is the same death and consumption. You might argue for "cleaner" kills, but its still a kill.

In my well researched opinion, youre worried about the wrong issue. Instead you should ask why "reality" itself is engineered from the ground up to be a battle royale where all species and beings must murder and eat each other to survive.

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>>42255969
why not just do this in the future (if we even have the means)
either that or lab grown meat

>>42255985
You're a moralfag.

>>42256149
then what were you put here to serve, to feed

>>42256257
WOULD

>>42256677
Yeah I care about living a virtuous life. Calling me a moralfag isn't the own you think it is.

>>42256765
Moralfag.

>>42256766
Yep

>>42256700
https://voca.ro/1dnQbqlnUv3r
answer per vocaroo

>>42256180
>Instead you should ask why "reality" itself is engineered from the ground up to be a battle royale where all species and beings must murder and eat each other to survive.
it's the fucking archons, isn't it?

>>42256770
Weak.

>>42256040
There’s a lot of hypocrisy about this from Christians, as one who is vegan. God instructed us to eat fruit and leaves before the Fall. It was only after, once entropy entered the fold, that God told us that we’re fucked and to eat anything that we can get our hands on. As soon as we regain agency on this behalf we must remove ourselves from the carnal cycle.

>>42256180
To blame the warden and the jailers (demiurge and archons) for the actions of the politicians (monad and aeons) is to be blind to how deep the rot goes

>>42255969
You're right anon, we should be wounding them and feeding on them while they're still alive, knowing they are being eaten, like wolves and lions do

>>42256857
What is your point?
Invoking names you know nothing about to try and twist my simple request for OP to ask questions about the cause instead of the symptoms is quite dishonest.

>>42256180
Entropy (which necessitates predation) is the necessary environment to test spiritual resolve. Eating animals is a prime example - if you can reduce suffering at the expense of your wants, and you choose not to, what does that make you?

We are living on a spinning rock that once found itself also in the Big Bang — but those ages are gone, and we are spiraling, spiraling into blackness. What do you choose to become in this?

I admit I feel bad about slaughterhouses and animal cruelty, but I eat meat because It's healthy for me. I am conflicted. If I eat nuts and seeds and grains I become ill.

If I could, I would eat only plants, but it doesn't work. The hard truth is we are omnivores that lean heavily towards the carnivore side, all the evidence is there in the human body, from stomach pH being the same as obligate carnivores, to the shape of our teeth. I am really conflicted because I agree with the moralfags but they do not want to hear the truth that I outlined about human biology in this paragraph, and before you say "wow you are so edgy, you eat meat because it's good for you, what about the poor animals?? You can't make that sacrifice??"... read the paragraph below

I used to eat a diet extremely heavy on nuts and grains, legumes etc and I became progressively ill, with a gut disease, and a number of ailments that made me almost bed bound.

Test

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Yes actually every being has a "magical" influence on the universe, this is the true reason to respect life

>>42256850

>I know the story of life and the mind of God
>trust me bro

>>42256985
Why would a moralfag judge you after you’ve exhausted your possible options?

Morality is doing what you can do with the fullness of your agency.

>>42255976
FPBP

>>42257013
it's happened before, the internet is very hostile sometimes.

>>42256900

You have a choice to align with your lower nature or higher nature, fellow creature of soul and intelligence.

>>42256776
Yep and they will totally use eating meat in their guilt trip movie (life review) if they think it will work on you. Conversely those who don't care will be shown a different movie to make them feel bad. That's why none ever passes the guilt trip. More ethical people have higher standards that they ultimately fail.

>>42257008
it’s in the Bible retard

>>42256952
Ah yes, a crucible for the tempering of high quality souls. Ive already pondered such perspective, that while possible, it is not the only explanation.
Ive also thought about it from a strictly physics perspective. In which physics itself makes a system to distill life into the most efficient configuration through evolution; a system in which parasitism already won and this physical reality itself is obsolete.

I have many theories of my own, but only proposed OP asks himself, instead of pushing my own interpretations upon.

>>42255969
A fat, short and effeminate arab once tried to push the vegetariant lifestyle on me, based on its supposed health benefits but at least he did not try to moralfag about it. OP is gayer than a literal irl faggot

>>42255969
vegetarian with eggs is the best middle ground imo, chickens are little fuckers anyway.

>>42257075

One cannot know beauty without ugliness, light without dark, life without death, up without down, front without back, short without long, yin without yang. Everything requires its opposite to define itself.

>>42257220
>vegetarian with eggs
That is what vegetarianism is you dumb nigger. Vegetarian =/= vegan. Vegetarians can eat eggs and drink milk.

>>42257240
Thats relativist nonsense.

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>>42255969
There's a category of spirits called FleshRiders.

watchdominion dot org
it won't change your life

>>42255969
I used to read fluffy pony factory stuff.

Can you go out and hunt a deer that's been living a wonderful wild life? No you cant without permits. Not to mention most don't know how. You are living in an open air prison system. You get by to survive and maybe inform others about the prison system. You can't just put limits on yourself because you will end up malnutrition. Doing harm to self willingly is worse. You choose the best what you have available. They do sell grass-fed beef. Is it 100% humane ensured? Idk but it sounds more humane than beef from feedlots. Also, if people who tell you to eat bugs don't want you eating beef, that means beef is good.

>grass eats soil
>cow eats grass
>I eat cow
>the social hierarchy eats me, there is always someone above who has more power
>billionaire pedophiles conquer the social hierarchy through systematic exploitation
>satan owns the souls of billionaire pedophiles
>God owns satan and has him as his bitch to mog for eternity

the world is a mog contest, at first it seems the devil is the biggest baddest mogger, he humilliates even the strongest more powerful individuals, it seems like he has everything under his control, then God comes, and fucks his shit up publicly, in front of everyone, and life continues on.

there is always a bigger crueler fish, but that also means there is always a bigger godly fish to put the cruel fish in his place, this is the law of the world.

>>42257533
you're retarded doe

>>42257551
>there's always a wigger fish
no, apes are desparate and pathetic, can't wait until ai builds the hell of our own psychosis

>>42257551
>muh jew "god" and "satan"
Lol you have absolutely zero perception outside the abrahamic prison

>>42255969
Some people are reborn in short term lives to feather over the issues they've had with us.

>>42255969
I'm actually a pesco vegetarian. No farmed fishes, no crabs or octopus. Small fishes dies on average a couple minutes after being fished out of water.

>>42257576
satan is real, god is real

I never mentioned JEWeh or JEWsus or JEWallah

but if you have any level of awareness you will identify a prominent force of dominance in the world (in this case I call it satan) and an even stronger force that puts the world under its power (God)

>>42257564
>believes AI is more than just fake numbers in a screen propped up by industries to fire workers in mass

lmao, I bet you believed in covid too

>>42256700
To generate loosh for the demiurge.

>>42257615
yeah, covid was made in america

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>>42255969
Let them live and starve to death in the paddock? The fate of those animals is far worse if you let bleeding hearts have their way.. They are bred to be slaughtered and if the slaughter house is closed, those animals suffer on a level you couldn't understand. I FUCKEN WORKED THAT KILL FLOOR - I FUCKEN WATCHED AS THEIR SKIN WAS TAKEN OFF THE SAME YOU TAKE A JUMPER OFF A CHILD!! "LIFT YOUR ARMS" only they are hanging from a hook!

Unless you have worked in one of these fucken hellscapes - DONT FUCKEN TALK ABOUT IT.. Just enjoy your BIG MAC YA FAT CUNT!! Think of all the innocent bugs and insects that get fucken massacred so you can have a vegan diet ya fucken hypocrite!! Nahh conveniently forget about those huh.. Just EAT NOTHING!! If you so worried about hurting life.. STOP FUCKING EATING ALL TOGETHER!!

>>42256985
Eat wild fish. It's the lesser evil. They die pretty quick after being fished out.
Now if you want to go on an even higher moral path, eat shellfish. It works for not getting sick from not eating flesh.
Vegetarian could work also, but you have to tolerate milk product, like cheese and kefir.
>I used to eat a diet extremely heavy on nuts and grains, legumes etc and I became progressively ill, with a gut disease, and a number of ailments that made me almost bed bound.
Veganism is actually dangerous. For some it works, for other their body decays.

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>>42255969
You can thank Abrahamism for this madness, along with the whole cancerous "colonize and exploit everything" mindset. From the first chapter of Genesis:

>26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

>28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

>29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

>>42257709
>I give you all the animals and plants on the earth for food.
>So you will be my food.
I just understood what saturn eating his children is about a few days ago. It's basically the demiurge, having created man in his own image, eating his own children, for loosh.

>>42257615
As soon as you mention "satan" you reveal your belief in abrahamism, you stupid fuck. Your abrahamic idols arent real. And anyone with an ounce of awareness identifies the scapegoats you just invoked. Yes, that literal jewish ritual of scapegoating.

>>42257751
>It's basically the demiurge, having created man in his own image,
Humans were created by aliens to mine the planet. The anunnaki, to be specific. And they arent "god" or "demiurges". Theyre simply biological creatures with access to better technology.

>>42257751
Are you fucking retarded? Clearly he gave plants for humans to eat and plants for animals to eat. God said they could rule over the animals, not fucking eat them.

I've worked on a pig farm before they're actually pretty happy and play around all day and eat which is their two favorite things to do. No one abuses them and everyone would know if they did because the meat gets tougher and lower quality and they'll fine you for it and not let you raise pigs anymore. If it's a first world country i guarantee no one is abusing their animals because it directly links to them losing hundreds of thousands of dollars and it's impossible to hide. That being said idk about mexico and other retarded countries

>>42256802
Nope. It takes great strength to have principles. Lazy nigger animals like you would never understand.

>>42255969
>>/r9k/

>>42257836
Your principles are not a choice, you were born with a conscience. I would actually be stronger than you if I chose to be a moralfag despite not feeling any empathy, as per your logic.

I don't agree with the completely arbitrary distinction between "animal" and "plant" if you're basing it on "consciousness". Don't tell me you think "consciousness" is just some fucking brain activity, you're on /x/ motherfucker. Go back to /sci/ or /pol/ if you're a fucking hylic retard.

You can eat meat that isn't produced in commercial meat factories. You just have to pay premiums for "free range" or you have to find someone who runs a private farm who can sell you meat directly, wholesale, that comes from animals that have been treated with dignity and respect.

>>42257846
You were born with a conscience yes, but no compass or instructions for how to use it. You develop discernment as you grow up, something you will never do apparently because you have zero empathy and are apparently a sociopath.

>>42257804
Not "created" but uplifted, it's when homo sapiens suddenly for no reason at all had the foxp2 gene modifed and we suddenly for no reason at all discovered agriculture simultaneously all over the globe

>>42257576
>>muh jew "god"
Jews believe they can beat god. Their rabbi defeat god verbally apparently. They don't believe in the almighty as the highest being.

>>42257855
>Not "created" but uplifted,
Wrong. The original inhabitants, those who created the global megalithic sites, were exterminated. Then they created humans with genetic engineering. Both the anunnaki lore and the bible coincide. Yhvh is Anu.

"Uplifted" haha yeah uplifted into slavery. Retard.

>>42255969
I bet OP is muslim. Disgusting.

>>42257857
They do, but they have many different names for "the almighty", like Lord, Lord God, God, God the Father, Almighty God, etc.

The reason for this is because the old testament should be read in HEBREW. When read in the correct language, passages take on more meaning and make more sense.

For example, in the attached image, do you notice how it says "has become as one of US"? That is not arbitrary. That is not poetry. That is not a mistake. That is not a fanciful interpretation. That is because the word in Hebrew is actually "Elohim", and Elohim is PLURAL. The correct idea is "THE ELOHIM" as a group of godlike beings, or a single God that has many different manifested forms and identites.

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forgot the image, sorry

>>42257834
I realize that's true in many cases but not all. Factory farms are awful and need to be banned. It depends on the type of animal and the type of meat being produced. Chickens are treated especially bad, and yea you can taste the difference between a well treated animal and a poorly treated one but it doesn't matter if it's turned into industrial goyslop. Vegetarians frustrate me because their advocating for no meat alienates people who might support some actual industry improvements.

>>42256040
>why do they need restraints?
because they're large animals

>>42257951
Then STOP EATING KFC!!

>>42257848
That's just every boomer ever. They're the reason our world is as fucked as it is

>>42256985
Our teeth are actually optimized for fruit but I agree it can be used for both

Huntererers gatherers used to have respect for their hunts. Did not waste meat, thanked the animal, practiced rituals and decorated their home with animal in honor of their spirit, adopted orphaned animals and raised them until they released them in the wild

>>42255969
It is objectively bod for you because the stress hormones produced by the pain and suffering of factory farmed animals can and do suffuse their entire body and remain in the meat you eat. Even putting aside the nutrition differences in products from factory farmed animals, which are always inferior to animals eating a natural diet, factory farmed meat directly harmful to your body.

Eating meat isn't ideal under any conditions but, taking cattle as an example, there are plenty of farms that allow them to roam freely in natural land and by doing so create a financial incentive to maintain the biodiversity of that land rather than replacing it with a monocrop field or, even worse, rows of barns. The only difference is that meat from ethically treated animals is a little more expensive than meat from animals who are forbidden even the slightest hint of comfort if providing it to them would harm profit margins.

I can respect people who choose to eat meat but only if they are careful about where it comes from. People who eat factory farmed meat every day and shrug at the miserable conditions these animals live in are 100% going to whatever negative afterlife you believe in. It might be different if someone were ignorant of these things but everyone knows that these places exist and that animals are essentially tortured for their entire lives for no reason other than that it makes it cheaper to raise them and if you know and comprehend what is being done to these animals and still choose to support it by buying products from them, you are equally guilty in every evil being committed against them.

>>42255969
All is One. I'm just like the cow who is slaughtered (life is slaughtering me little bit little) and the cow becomes part of me when I eat its flesh (and the same will happen to me, my body will be eaten) so I don't feel bad for the cow because I'm going through the same process. Life is a slaughter house in a way, but you fail to see this and you want to try to kame us feel bad beacuse you are a pussy. Life is like this. Put this in your head. Gods prey on us and we prey the animals. If you want to prove something then go die of starvation and you signal to the world how much you think it's unfair what happens. God won't care and nobody won't care because God is indifferent.

>>42257256
most vegetarians worldwide don't eat eggs.

>>42256985
I was vegan for two years - admittedly I was a lazy vegan and rarely tracked amino acids properly, but I developed severe wrist issues that ultimately made me switch careers and my doctor was basically like dude you gotta start eating meat your joints are gonna fall the fuck apart. I still eat a ton of tofu and beans as my main protein sources but I do also eat everything else in moderation now. I feel the worst about pork and basically only eat it when it’s buried in something like a sausage that I don’t have to think about it.

>>42255969
Idk, meat makes me feel good. Beans make me fart and shart. So you're probably wrong.

>>42259572
What kind of wrist issues? I had forearm issues from the high grain/nuts/legume diet, RSI or tendonitis issues which would become easily fatigued after minimal use.

>>42257848
None of this has anything to do with what I said, retard. You are weak because you have no choice, if you caved in someone's skull you would feel physically ill. Your morality is not a choice it was forced on you and then you larp and act like that makes you stronger. I'm unchained, faggot.

>>42256257
>>42256709
any who think this is a good idea should be hanged in public

>>42257273

Is that an absolute claim? One cannot know relativism without absolutism. Opposing forces exist as two sides of the same spectrum. They are interconnected and inseparable parts of one reality.

>>42255969
It isn't, it's why certain demographics are so anti social

>>42256015
>Why would you do this?
>I'm allowed to do this.
God gave man dominion over animals. We can choose to do with that dominion what we will. It speaks poorly of us that we would take this as license to pointless cruelty.

>>42255969
The cows I eat don't seem to distraught having food delivered to them daily, scatching themselves on the on the cow brush 9000, louging around in a field protected from predators and other nusciances all day, and sleeping indoors on beds of fresh hay every night. Now the chickens on the other hand, I can taste the pain in those little fuckers and let me tell yah, it goes great with some honey mustard.

>>42257862

>my schizo theory is better than your schizo theory
>"retard"

There's nothing wrong with admitting you don't know. In fact, it's perhaps the most dignified thing you can do, because now your emotional state isn't attached to an idea you can't prove.

>>42255969
I want to stop eating meat at some point in my life, my grandpa quit when he was 60. He now has B12 deficiency. I know there's things you can do to prevent the B12 problems, but meat seems like the easiest way to keep it at bay.
Hopefully the science gets better and I'll be able to quit meat at some point. I've been vegetarian for long stints before, and I don't really miss meat when I'm limiting my diet. It's nice, it tastes good, but ultimately, I feel mentally better knowing I'm not eating something that walked the earth.

>>42260260
I dont care about your jewish relativism. I dont want to know about it. It is cancer.
Absolutism is self contained, divine Truth. Beauty just is. You dont need to see an ugly filthy jew to instinctly recognize beauty.
Relativism is a jewish parasite upon GODs objective reality.

>>42260602

>it's the jews

Blaming the jews is relativismm

>>42259862
>if you caved in someone's skull you would feel physicall ill
No, actually I would feel joy if it were your skull. I take great joy in destroying evil and protecting others from it in the process.

>>42260602
You believe in the Jewish God.

>>42260960
Not at all, mohel. Now stop sucking baby penises.

>>42260924
>doesn't actually disagree with me
I accept your concession.

>>42260982
The only reason why you are a monotheist is the dominance of Abrahamic thought. You're fundamentally a jew engaging in jewish in-fighting with other jews.

>>42261255
Who said im "monotheist", rabbi?

>>42257848
You were born with the necessity to eat because reality wants you to face the fact that you are a selfish impulsive animal as long as you have a will to live, and if you lose this will you are still a selfish animal whose ungrateful for having been given the opportunity to experience reality.
Of course, you can realize that your selfishness gives you leverage and control over your experiences, thus over life and reality. But every once in a while the social aspects of life will face you with moral dillemas that will make you feel guilt, no matter how much you deny it. Ultimately, this dychotomy should teach you that you are trapped no matter what you do. Reality wants you to admit this soone4 or later.

>>42261482

The only place you're trapped inside is your mind. To change your experience of life, simply shift your perspective.