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>>42489899
Yeah thats usually how cults start OP
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>>42489899
Green is 110% a reptilian shapeshifter.
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narcissist playbook. lure people with love and acceptance then enslave their soul and sacrifice them

see also jesus christ
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>>42489952
Literally nothing i've seen from his behaviour or words have convinced me that he has negative intentions. i am of course open to the idea
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>>42489899
He is smug and he knows it. Watch the Jesse Michels interview. Combine that with the fact that his documentaries recycled the same shitty blurry light footage for over a decade despite him claiming he can make them appear on command (for a price).
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>>42489899
Yeah man I could write a paragraph about how hard they fucking shill against and censor this guy and his work, all ad hominem insults, but you already see through
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>>42489899
Any time this thread has been posted the OP gets proven right
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>>42489981
>Watch the Jesse Michels interview.
i will do that right now. thanks for recc
>he is smug
> his documentaries recycled the same shitty blurry light footage for over a decade despite him claiming he can make them appear on command
i do not see problems with this
>(for a price).
i cannot understand for 1 second how anyone has a problem with this. everyone needs to eat, property taxes, etc. he already says anyone can do ce5, even alone. there is 0 reason to ever consider or feel the need to going to his events. like i just said im open to the idea that he's secretly a narcisstic egomaniacal psychopathic protocult leader but charging 1000 dollars for a 5 day meditation retreat does not convince me of this, personally
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>>42489981
He doesn’t claim he can make them appear on command. He very explicitly says they are not “dolphins for your amusement” and you do not “command them”.

This kind of blatant shilling is what gets me
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>>42490008
I'm saying if has been able to do this for over a decade (Joe Rogan offered to finance a professional video crew when he appeared on his podcast in 2013) there is no excuse for all your footage in your videos to be dog shit that looks like it was recorded with a Game Boy. I don't even think he has bad intentions, I just think he's an insufferable cunt and extremely naive.
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>>42490022
Any source for Rogan saying that? All I have seen is Spotify taking down his interview after they gave him 100 million
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>>42490021
He says he sees them on every outing and accepted Joe's offer to finance a professional video crew. Obviously nothing ever came of that.
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>>42490022
>think he's an insufferable cunt and extremely naive.
Do you really think this? from everything ive seen of him, he seems extremely nice and pleasant. i can't keep stressing enough that i am completely open to be proven wrong.
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>>42490034
Seethe glowie
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>>42490027
idk what point he said it but it's somewhere during this episode in which Greer also talks about a potential alien fetus which turned out (after the episode) to not be an alien
https://odysee.com/@JREmissing:3/Joe-Rogan-Experience-331:b
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>>42490041
watch the Jesse Michels episode he acknowledges he's an abrasive person
>>42490044
oh wow if AI said it is must be true. kys.
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>>42489941
You can even see the reptilian bone above his nose under the skin in OP's pic. Humans don't have this.
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>>42490045
And then Garry Nolan who did the sequencing got millions of dollars in CIA funding and is pushing the narrative that ET craft are responsible for traumatic brain injuries
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>>42490054
You have literally no source for your claim
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>>42490059
Garry Nolan said he saw a UFO when he was a child and saw aliens in his bedroom as a child. He turned out just fine.
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>>42490065
I'm not scrubbing through this video faggot. If you're such a Greer fanboy then you watch it. It's in the video.
https://odysee.com/@JREmissing:3/Joe-Rogan-Experience-331:b
https://odysee.com/@JREmissing:3/Joe-Rogan-Experience-331:b
https://odysee.com/@JREmissing:3/Joe-Rogan-Experience-331:b
https://odysee.com/@JREmissing:3/Joe-Rogan-Experience-331:b
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>>42490077
I have watched it and know for a fact you are incorrect
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>>42490054
>watch the Jesse Michels episode he acknowledges he's an abrasive person
watching it now. but again from everything ive seen of him so far he doesn't see, abrasive or selfish
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>>42490085
I have watched it and know for a fact it's in the video. I also didn't have to ask AI what's in the video, because I have actually watched it.
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>>42490096
The AI was proof that you are wrong. There is no such claim in the YouTube transcript. You are not a glowie just retarded
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>>42490102
The video is not on youtube you dumb faggot. I know you just want me to scrub through the video and give you a timestamp to prove you wrong. Kill yourself.
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>>42490102
>The AI was proof that you are wrong.
Lole
Lmao even
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>>42490102
>>42490111
guys please take it easy and relax there is no need for fighting
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>>42490110
https://youtu.be/o-5IrX5J9Sk?si=paj9NV8jEqXZfYZ1 not on the offical channel because I guess Rogan waited until he got the 100M deal to scrub it dorm all his channels. Suck my nutsack
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>>42490124
Watching the jesse michael interview currently then this one next. why would/did rogan delete it?
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>>42490129
So he could get his big Spotify money
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>>42489899
Some dumbfuck blocked me on Twitter for pointing out that on page one of the Wilson Memo it talks about Greer meeting with him. Edgar Mitchell spoke to this on CNN about twenty years ago

People are really bad at reading comp, shills, or bots
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>>42490144
interesting, any other of his epsidoes he deleted for that deal?
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>>42490158
30-40. Alex jones ones, David Seaman the pizzagate guy.
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>>42490156
>of the Wilson Memo it talks about Greer meeting with him. Edgar Mitchell spoke to this on CNN about twenty years ago
can you elaborate why this is important, please
>People are really bad at reading comp, shills, or bots
can't blame em, man. lotta money being poured into/ to be made by turning people into angry stupid retards
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>>42490177
interesting....thanks
the question now being because they are right, or just because they're le controversal
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>>42490186
In theory there should be nothing controversial about Greer. Every other UFO one is up
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>>42490189
very interesting...................right? what could be the reason for them wanting it gone. did even the bob lazar one get cut?
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>>42490189
Or “problematic” from Spotify’s POV if he is a charlatan. If he is a larper why would that episode ever even be on their radar
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>>42490195
Nope. Bob is there. Corbell and such too. And they get to be recurring guests
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Greer believes all aliens are benevolent, he's a reptoid making excuses for the scumbags who run this world and eat babies. He lures his followers into the desert and has people attach astral entities to their solar plexus (heart chakra).
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>>42490209
Now see this is actual rhetoric I can entertain, because yeah there's no way all aliums are benevolent and probably some are in cahoots with the epstein tier people of this world. i'd need more evidence/ rhetoric that his ce5 meditation stuff is actually secretly evil or whatever because he says only nice and peaceful stuff during the guided ones ive listened to
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guh
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>>42490209
Solar plexus and heart are two different chakras, dingus. That said, and I know basically nothing about Greer except the CE5 thing, anyone who promotes that shit is exposing people to potentially serious harm whether they know it or not. And I find it hard to believe that its chief promoter would not know.
>b-but I tried it and it works!
It does work and that is precisely what is so dangerous about it. Close encounters can have gravely harmful effects.
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>>42490244
The biggest risk is human operatives with their demon neural monitoring tech and demon overlords targeting you after.
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>>42490124
conversation about filming CE5 starts here
https://youtu.be/o-5IrX5J9Sk?t=9060
Greer says he's never had professionals film and Joe says he has a crew here
https://youtu.be/o-5IrX5J9Sk?t=9126

You're welcome faggot. The only reason I did it is because the transcript (LOL) did indeed not show any talk of that.
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>>42490244
>>42490250
>It does work and that is precisely what is so dangerous about it. Close encounters can have gravely harmful effects.
>demon neural monitoring tech and demon overlords targeting you after.
to me it feels like as long as you have pure intentions and pure peace and love feelings then there is no danger. like its protection. only if you have fear or latent negative intentions then bad stuff is attracted
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>>42490256
Damn I stand corrected
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>>42490250
Contact with UFO can literally give you turbo cancer, read Skinwalkers at the Pentagon (which VERY curiously never mentions actual skinwalkers, who they are, what they do, or what they have to do with ayys, just that one ranch that is named after them because they cursed it)
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>>42490270
based acknowledger of being wrong. thanks for staying peaceful
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>>42489899
literal reptile face
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Ayyliens dont exist and the tapes just induce lucid dreaming.
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>>42490320
Lucid dreaming is when you know that you're in a dream, so how the fuck does one manage to mistake that for something else?
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>>42490320
What tapes?
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>>42489899
I think what’s more telling is the zero discussion of the NPC 2001 event or the sheer number of high caliber witnesses that have sided with him, many of whom died under suspicious circumstances
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>>42490383
Thank you for bringing this up, whole thread has been almost completely retarded nonsense so far. I personally think the most compelling thing about him, as I think about anyone in fact, is the complete commitment to peace/love/empathy. literally NOTHING i've heard from him makes me believe he has bad intentions
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>>42490244
The CE5 is just simple ceremonial magic. It’s a mix of the lower banishing ritual and middle pillar exercise.
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>>42490434
His book Hidden Truth Forbidden Knowledge is great. Really gives you more insight into the guy

He has his flaws and blind spots as everyone does, but he genuinely cares about humanity
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>>42490478
>Hidden Truth Forbidden Knowledge
cool, i will read it.
> but he genuinely cares about humanity
I realized, not too long ago, that this is the only marker that really matters in this life. picrel, one of my favourite passages from the dhammapada, 262-263.
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>>42490466
It's similar in principle yes
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>>42490466
go on...
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>>42490498
The LBR and middle pillar in ce5 are the preparatory stages before the invocation/contact. The structure is the same but lacking esoteric names and aesthetic. LBRP clears/orders the field. Middle Pillar aligns the operator as the axis/antenna.
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>>42489899
>>42489941
maybe he is nice snek.
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>>42490635
interesting
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>>42489899
I don't know anon. He genuinely seems shifty and some of the claims of him being a grifter are substantiated, BUT every time he is mentioned online a bunch of people absolutely incoherently RAGE against him. The seethe is so intense I actually doubt his haters are actual human glowies because from a psyop perspective it is downright sloppy. My best guess is bots and I suspect they have started to be reigned in as people have started to notice how aggressive it is. Someone or something HATES this guy but it doesn't mean he is legit.
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>>42490279
Faggot
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>>42490828
Thank you for this nuanced take. It is this exact phenomenon, the mindless malding despite his generally benign behaviour, that inspired me to make this thread. Who, if i may ask, do you think is behind it, then, considering its sloppiness? Why do you think it doesn't prove he is legit, despite coordinated bot attacks on someone not necessarily being a solid source of credibility on its own?
As far as I see it, if all that what he is saying is true, then he really would be very high on the enemy list of this secret maji/global extragovernmental group/cabal. Yet, his wide network including insiders and whistleblowers, potential kompromat and deadman switches, and in my opinion most importantly, his openness and honesty, form a kind of protection that can only be attacked in what ways we see manifest, namely relatively sloppy psyops, because there is very little actual ammo against him.
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>>42490878
I think he could be wrong about certain things and still be a threat. I am relatively certain someone is holding out on an energy breakthrough and even if it isn't Zero Point energy it would be under the same rug people would look under if they started digging. He is a force that wants people to dig.

On the other hand while I said it might be bots, the CE5 stuff has a metaphysical component and I think it's possible his enemies are metaphysical. I say this because his haters literally sound demonic at times, including the irrationality and as you noted he is advocating a "high vibrational" perspective. I wouldn't say this in most places but the UFO phenomenon 100% has a metaphysical side too it and I am quite certain metaphysical forces are fighting to shape the narrative.
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>>42490946
That image is super fucked up
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>>42489899
>"skeptic" instantly believes anything said as long as the speaker says it in a nice enough voice and panders to them
Colour me surprised
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>>42490946
Just remember that the alternative is staying on Earth. Humans are destined to be slaves but we may someday get the chance to choose our master.
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>>42490979
>Labels me a skeptic when I've never claimed to be one
>Says I believe anything he says despite me never saying so
>Claims I like his voice when I actually said I like his tone
>Says I've been pandered to, by someone advocating peacefulness, honesty, and freedom
>Cynical ironic response
I like nothing about your post.
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>>42490828
It is sloppy but glowie tactic on a lot of topics seems to be brute forcing the appearance of opinion consensus
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>>42489899
OP once again mistakes charisma for intellect. That's why Trump is in power again.
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>>42490929
The people in charge of the covert programs and >>42490878
energy suppression he has tried to expose for 30 years are involved in demonic practices. He talks about this
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>>42490946
BTW the first "alien abduction" reports started in the 60s after we allegedly mastered antigrav and had our own ships. Make you think
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>>42489899

What tipped me off years ago was the fact he was trying to tell everyone in his audience that the aliens were all good and the people experiencing harmful abductions were all misinterpreting the probing and the abuse

The Buga sphere is easily the stupidest thing this guy has ever passed on to his audience and expect them to believe it's real. That is what permanently shifted the balance for me towards him being completely crazy.

I think what makes him convincing is that he believes what he is saying. imo he's disinfo or a victim of organized disinfo
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>>42492286
I don't think he's crazy, I just think he is overly credulous and infatuated with his own worldview. If you can't keep the truth from coming out the next best thing is flooding the zone with bullshit, and he has certainly believed some bullshit over the years. If he acknowledged this more often instead of coming off like a pompous know it all he would be much more palatable to his haters.
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>>42492308
very reasonable critique. I admire the guy but this is very true
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>>42492214
No I haven't. I voted for the black woman. Greer just seems to be just as intelligent as charismatic. go listen to 5 minutes of the raper speak then 5 minutes of greer and its like being slapped in the face versus being caressed on the cheek.
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>>42492286
Anon Wins.
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>>42492286
One of his main points is that if aliens wanted to take over they could do so in 3 seconds, but they love and care for us; and that its actually covert majestic12-esque bad-intentioned humans doing the abductions, not that they were "misinterpreting" it but just simply that it is not who they thought it was? as >>42492235 points out. regarding the buga sphere stuff, i havent looked into or watched him speak about yet so couldnt speak on that.
This post is exactly why i started this thread. You have combined misinterpretation of one of his main points about aliens actually being loving and that abductions being actually humans (who he says deserve leniency if they are honest about their crimes and come clean, another beautiful and true statement from greer), with critiques of obscure and easily deniable/ even disprovable physical evidence (same as the little chilean skeleton who """"sources"""" say is actually human, honestly i personally couldnt say either way but in the documentary its clear that they are specifically doing all the dna testing to prove themselves wrong, not prove themselves right) and tied it all up with saying that these scant and half-truth evidences are enough to call him CRAZY, and not just a victim of disinfo, but a SPREADER of such. It just seems like you aren't being fully honest/ good faith here or at least not doing enough research. no offense please.
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>>42492308
>>42492411
Thank you both for sharing your thoughts.
Like I said I haven't looked into the booga sphere yet but from what i've seen from the atacama fetus skeleton portrayed in the sirius documentary, im willing to believe that its just a genetically fucked human and not alien, and to that end i haven't seen him acknowledge that fuckup either. However, he could have done so without me seeing it, he has a fuck ton of interviews and stuff. But I will also concede he is pretty arrogant and know-it-all, but sometimes some people really do just know more about some stuff.
What I really wanna see, is some deeper criticisms beyond just "he is le pompous" and "he is le charismatic and cult leader". I want to know if what he is saying is fucking TRUE!!! He is just the messenger in this case, who gives a fuck who the messanger is, the more important thing is if free energy is literally REAL, its a fucking wild thing to claim.
what reason would he have to lie??? for that sweet 1000 dollars per person for a retreat? enough to buy 2 weeks rent in a shoebox studio at sheklburg's downtown "luxury" sardine apartment complex?? for the fame? plausibly. i dont know, but i don't think its either of these when i look in my heart though
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>>42490209
Well yeah all these controlled opposition motherfuckers are preparing their dumb ass followers for a harvest
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There are literally flight logs proving he uses flares for his CE5 events (which he charges thousands of dollars for)
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>>42492654
surely you can post the flight logs, prove Greer commissioned them, and claimed the flares were aliens then?

Oh, you are referencing the one slop slander article that is plastered all over reddit? suck my ass
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>>42489963
I had this exact same thought...20 years ago.
My only complaint is that he's been repeating the exact same thing about Alien Reproduction Vehicles and government cover-ups all this time and it's like the government is afraid to even talk about such a thing and instead rabidly goes after low-hanging fraud. I think if Greer gets a leg in to the Economic circle of discussion and injects the idea that trillions of dollars are going into a black hole every year, its over. I am tired of my taxes paying for anti-Greer shills.
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>>42492581
it isnt just Greer claiming this, it is a lot of high level scientists going on the record, some of whom like Eugene Mallove at MIT then getitng killed in "home invasions".

Floyd sweet, stan meyer dead under mysterious circumstances.

Mark McCandlish, Karl Wolfe, dead under mysterious circumstances.

Bill Colby, dead with dinner on the table. Look up John DeCamp's Franklin Coverup and read what Colby says in the prolgue.

Greer's assistant Shari Adamiak and Congressman Schiff that they were working with dying of malignant cancer at the same time.

The coverup is massive and the slander knows no ends. At least it is retarded enough to see through
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>>42489899
NYT article and Elizondo getting massively platformed in 2017 I'm sure just happened to coincidentally be at the same time Unacknowledged was the # worldwide documentary
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>>42492581
I believe a lot of what he says is true and I believe a lot of the whistleblowers he has helped come forward are telling the truth. What is and is not actually true I ultimately don't know, and apparently neither does Greer. I try not to even bother with certainty of one thing or another so much as probabilities. I think there is a 100% chance David Fravor saw some flying object and a 0% chance that he's a paid actor or otherwise incompetent.
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>>42492738
>I think there is a 100% chance David Fravor saw some flying object and a 0% chance that he's a paid actor or otherwise incompetent.
I should add almost nothing else in this topic is that certain for me, and I should have said 99.99999% and 0.000001%.
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>>42490209
He has said clearly that not all alien civs have our best outcomes in mind and some are purely neutral and don't care if we become a species bent on conquering- they're not all occupying the universe as we see it.
His tenet is to say that a self-destructive species that makes slaves and charges interest usually does not achieve the technology/techniques to travel faster than light speed.
It may be the case that a small faction of "superior" earthlings HAS achieved superluminal travel and any ayylmaos that have noticed may be watching closely to see how bad we fuck it up. Whether or not the earth has alien tech in their hands is a moot point, considering the advancements in technology hidden right now. If FTL leaves a trace in space, we are going to get curious Visitors and you had better pray they are peaceful and generous.
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>>42492740
>99.99999% and 0.000001%.
Very nice.
Regarding fravor, of course he saw something and of course he's honest. very low stakes for him. the mindfuck, allegedly that greer drops is that it was a lockheed skunkworks humanpmade reverse engineered gravitic ship that he saw, on the tik tok or gofast or whatever the fuck. probably all of them. remember, the bad-intention maj12 types are all in on blue beam retardation low energy trying to get people to be scared, confused, and afraid. all makes sense to me, in terms of power poitics. the actual free energy shit is why i made this thread though, still skeptical
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>>42492751
He has also clearly stated that there is no way for him to prove they do not have ulterior motives.

His stance makes sense to me. To get past where we are you have to become enlightened to an extent
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Really like the direction this thread has gone in, please keep discussing, debating, or even debunking greer's actual arguements such as zero point energy, global cabal of demon worshippers who just want to profit and kill anyone in their way, and how peace and love is unironically the best answer like a david vs goliath scenario.
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>>42492757
Watch his documentary The Lost Century for the free energy deep dive
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>>42492751
>>42492765
The ulterior motive's in the implication of what he's saying. For example,

>species that makes slaves and charges interest usually does not achieve the technology

We know this is false, look at history, autocracy in its forms has always evolved to empire. We know tptb know this is false, they love those things because slaves and interest both bind one to the empire. We can presume any demons / evil aliens also know this is false, look at how myths and larps say they operate.

So his feint is "we need love and light" but what he's really implying with that disclosure is the opposite. We're currently seeing the NWO's war machines and famines/etc on the horizon to make us those money-bound slaves which he's saying tptb's empire allegedly doesn't need lol.
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>>42489899
My favorite slander is calling the 70 year old a “reptilian” because he looks old lmfao
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>>42492908
It isn’t that they don’t achieve this tech, it’s that the consciousness of war will lead to self destruction.

He also says there is essentially a galactic federation of sorts preventing warmongerers that have superluminal travel and similar tech from going out of their own solar system. Cosmic quarantine.

Agree or disagree, that is his take
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every single ufo podcast/career guy is a grifting faggot

there are only triangles

all the missing guys? triangles
uaps? triangles
do i see them literally everywhere and hang out with them 24/7? yes, and triangles.

it literally all started when i figured out the saluting protective spirit and was able to CP violate a pathway through my friends TV by explaining the dual slit experiment to him, he tried arguing with me (someone who is always right) about it by being wrong and "theorizing" a "but what if" reality instead of just understanding it for what it is.
consciousness is light refracted by optical chirality and the brain is the spintronic conductor that took a piece of creation and imprisoned it inside of its flesh, like a parasite. no, there is no sensory perception out of it, only thought (and monte carlo algorithms).

basically, i have like 3000 pics and vids of them, here is my really bad youtube video about them
they've gotten crazy recently and my newest video doesnt do it justice now
i need to make more. i'm close to z-pinch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OshU7Hu-0B0

also i see eyes now too
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>>42493025
I've seen people drop 25k easy on a full mouth of clinically superflouous ceramic veneers, just so their teeth look like a fucking toilet instead of its natural healthy offwhite. americans will spend 12k a year on (((rent))) instead of building multigenerational households. greer is a doctor, he probably charged more than half of these levels for routine checkups. i have never given a cent to this man and yet somehow have been able to access hundreds of hours of his talks and all his books, not even pirated. not to mention some of the people he rubs shoulders with, all of these prices combined is what a regular weekend vacation costs.
I actually went and did some looking into scientology, which i didn't know much about, just to see what parallels i could see with greer. an interview of david miscavidge's neice dropped only a month ago where she explains the constant hard labour, emotional abuse, and secrecy of the whole thing. so, the exact opposite of greer's free energy, peace and love, and pure open and honesty, as far as i see it.
charging money for cds, books, and meet and greets is actually normal behaviour and i wont be gaslit into thinking otherwise, sorry. the 125k tier is retarded but again its not designed with you in mind
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>>42493207
he pays for all the whistleblower transportation, lodging, now security, etc out of pocket. Idk how people expect his project to continue with zero funding
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>>42493253
Great points I didn't even consider because I was so busy just trying to decontruct the retarded shillery at its most basic inconsistencies.
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>>42492920
Its actually pretty kino psyops. he looks amazing for 70
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>>42490121
this is exactly what greer wants! aaaahhhhhh!!!!!
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>>42493308
Yeah dude stayed jacked. Was what made me watch Unacknowledged when I selected it on Hulu on a whim. Always hear out the old jacked dude, anime taught me that
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>>42489992
That "badly drawn laughing hamster" meme is a common tranny meme just so you know
Not accusing you but making you aware, unless you are a tranny in which case YWNBAW
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>>42494220
Didn’t know that. I just debit on zoomer TikTok
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>>42489899
He has literally called his detractors Nazis and has said some anti-west and anti-christian things, which is common with these grifters who play to low IQ third worlders and women. The little alien body and the bugasphere is the most laughably cringe evidence only a retard could accept.

Honestly, people like Greer know their grift will come to an end if the government goes through with actual disclosure. At least he can go back to being a doctor
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>>42490186
these guys are all over spotify on other podcasts
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>>42494350
Yeah bro. The government is going to give you “actual disclosure”. Lol
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>>42494475
That's why I said "if"
Either way, I will call out Greer and his bugs sphere and Lazar and his CIA brothel every time someone is dumb enough to take these liars seriously
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>>42494350
>anti-christian
And here I thought he was a grifter. He might be legit after all. Abrahamic religious fanaticism IS the reason disclosure hasn't occurred yet.
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I watched his last movie and it was really bad. He is not as bad as Elizondo and Skinwalker Ranch grifters. This one is my favourite.
HICE works, it is amazing when you think about it. We are not the only intelligent beings in the galaxy or Earth.
There is nothing more to say about aliens really. They are here and do whatever they want. They don't openly disclose their presence because they are scientists observing us, just like we observe bears or birds.
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>>42494350
>>42494528
see
>>42492581
far and away the most important parts of greer's and even lazar's story is the free energy aspect. the bug sphere and little alien body only have function to showcase his potential credulousness but even then i couldnt definitively say either way if i know they're real so therefore they're useless to me.
What really tickles my brain pickle is calling them liars because... they call some people nazis, and run brothels. as if those things aren't cripplingly based. it takes a really disingenuous person to call them liars outright after watching them speak. lying causes immense spiritual and even physical harm, and both greer and lazar look very healthy for their 70s. they clearly are telling their truths. whether their accounts are accurate to reality, is a very different story. but to call them liars is exactly the kind of kneejerk shit that catches my attention
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>>42494634
Oh yeah that's another thing, his whole free energy documentary, I was totally in on that until he rolled out the little alien body. It had nothing to do with the subject, it can be completely divorced from the aliens and the UFO

Why did he have to do that? It is precisely to make the whole field of alternate energy research look stupid. Classic glow in the dark fun and games
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>>42494634
>I know they're telling the truth because they look healthy for their age
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>>42494626
The thing that sticks for me is elizondo is the constant low vibration talk. as if an aliyum civ with tech 1 million years more advanced than ours couldn't just take over earth in 1 second. its like we are a baby talking about how our daddy is malevolent because he keeps us in the crib meanwhile we'd fucking fall down the stairs if left to our devices and daddy is all for our autonomy when we learn object permanence. sort of a contrived metaphor but i think it checks. the older i get the more i realize peace and love is literally the only right answer which is why greer compels me so much. he even advocates for leniency for the so called deep state extragovernmental spooks that stage fake alien abductions to make people scared of aliens as a cassus beli against them etc.
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>>42494656
Yeah I have to admit it does have a sour look to it in retrospect, but I want to reiterate that despite (sources claim) and (studies show) , the little corpse could very well be alien. and even if not, greer falling for this retarded sideshow has a sour look but I can't say it discredits him for me outright even.
>>42494663
Uhm, yes? beauty and honesty are correlated. phsyical ugliness is a result of lying and cheating
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>>42492751
>He has said clearly that not all alien civs have our best outcomes in mind
>>42492765
>He has also clearly stated that there is no way for him to prove they do not have ulterior motives.
When did he say those things? Serious question. Link please?
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>>42495302
Not sure - I’ve watched most of his interviews. But he admits he obviously can’t prove that they have ulterior motives - it is impossible to prove a negative. That said, his personal belief is they do not have a sinister ulterior motive
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>>42495362
If there's one then there's hundreds of species. Many will be low vibration retards who want to fight everyone (us...) and they aren't allowed to step outside their containment solar system like we don't let rapists and murderers out of prisons (until they prove they won't do that stuff anymore). the truth is that any average human you meet on the street is gonna be generally good and might even give you dinner and place to sleep for a night if you ask for it, and that generally good quality that characterizes 99% of humans must logically extend to spacepeople
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>>42489899
You've clearly never met psychopaths in real life have you? If you had you'd know their Hallmark trait is their "niceness". The more gentle and nice and peace loving the person, the more psychotic they are behind the performance. Psychopaths are never sour faced angry negative people, that would require being honest about how they truly feel. And Psychopaths are never honest.
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>>42497508
I'm willing to consider this. It would also explain how someone could just lie about meeting basically the entire government and even that aliens/free energy even exists. What do you think though personally?
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>>42489941
Some people get really offended when you bring up hes a reptilian. He might be an alright, chill reptilian, but a reptilian he is.
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>>42489899
I'll care about ayys when I can directly interact with one. Until that time their existence or non-existence is irrelevant to me.
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>>42498650
I completely agree, which is why his purported CE5 is so interesting to me, because he is one of the only people that not only claims they are real but also you can interact with them without a lot of work and for free and by yourself even. I personally haven't seen shit though.
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>>42498650
>I'll care about ayys when I can directly interact with one
>>42498695
>his purported CE5

This so brazenly moronic, no offense. Greer didn't create CE5, he popularized the term. "CE5" has been around for thousands of years and there are a dozen frameworks for it that are virtually identical throughout mystic traditions.

When I see posts like this it begs the question; why on earth are you trying to contribute on these topics when you are obviously completely uninformed and also willing to vocalize your opinion while knowing you're uninformed?
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>>42499167
>Why do people ask questions about stuff they don't know about
We may never know the answer to this.
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>>42499246
No questions were asked. Please don't insult people's intelligence.
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>>42497508
You're describing a "sociopath" not a "psychopath"
Funny how people are so eager to spout absolutely incorrect nonsense when Greer is brought up
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>>42499322
The word purported implicitly is calling into question the validity of CE5.
People have to start somewhere when learning. This always starts with questions, and sometimes with vocalizing uninformed opinions. The value of someone's intelligence rests entirely on their ability to assimilate new beliefs, understandings, and ideas, and the ability to be willing to admit when you're wrong, not on what they already know. If you happen to have knowledge that you know others don't and they can benefit from, it is a blessing to share it. In a kind manner, even moreso.
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>>42499379
Again there were no questions asked. The assumptions were incorrect; CE5 is not trademarked by anyone. People who don't make an effort to be honest are not entitled to have their opinion be taken seriously.
I already provided constructive input by recounting the historical and traditional nature of 'CE5' activities.
Honesty is kind. Entertaining fallacy is dishonest and destructive even if it makes you feel better about yourself in the short term.
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>>42499418
If you're allowed to interpret "his" in anon saying "his purported CE5," as anon thinking Greer trademarked it, then I'm allowed to interpret "purported" as being a question
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>>42499452
>he is one of the only people that not only claims they are real but also you can interact with them
Again...
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>>42499470
Sue me if I thought his method for contact is unique or even better. Perhaps try showing me 1 single other person who has as good or better of a contact protocol to prove me officially retarded in this subject instead of sperging out at me
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>>42499485
>I thought his method for contact is unique or even better
That isn't what you said. You're being dishonest unfortunately.
All native american traditions have a functional contact protocol. If you're incapable of discovering the vast tracts of information on this topic yourself, one example of someone who publishes their unique protocol is Carl the Crusher.
The ego and emotional lashing out is not necessary. Don't make assumptions from a lack of information, that's dishonest to yourself and everyone else.
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>>42489899
He's deformed.
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>>42499513
>Making assumptions even despite lack of information is dishonest
>Despite this being the definition of a hypothesis and the entire foundation of the scientific method
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>>42490899
Why I'm not surprised at all? And why this post doesn't have any (You)s?
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>>42499540
>Don't make assumptions from a lack of information
Is what I said.
>Making assumptions even despite lack of information is dishonest
Is a completely different sentence with a different meaning.
Dishonest.
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>>42499553
>Don't make assumptions from a lack of information
>Despite making assumptions from a lack of information, in order to prove or disprove those assumptions by means acquiring new information through experimentation, being a core tenet of the scientific method
Are you happy now? Or are you still unhappy?
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>>42499541
I saw this but don't see the relevance. The Bab seemed pretty based.
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>>42499572
>The ego and emotional lashing out is not necessary.
Be honest about what you don't know and do not pretend to understand something knowing full well you have never attempted to learn about it.
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>>42499597
And another post goes by without a single direct link to a contact protocol other than a vague reference to native americans and a random youtuber
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>>42499620
>Perhaps try showing me 1 single other person who has as good or better of a contact protocol
Dishonesty is always obvious.
You're here to detract and insult anyone who discusses this topic seriously. That's not my opinion, that's your behavior.
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>>42499627
If you're implying carl the crusher was enough to satisfy this request, I do not agree. I couldn't find shit through my admittedly cursory search through his youtube page, other than him eating 20 warheads candies at once with his wife, kids, and grandma; pretty kino, admittedly. Please provide a link to a video of him discussing a contact protocol?
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>>42499641
Dishonesty.
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>>42499661
It's all they have. Liars can only lie
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>>42499661
Thank you.
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>>42489963
he charges $50 a ticket to watch him tell lies on stage at venues.

if you had world-changing knowledge about UFO's, would you charge someone $50 to hear it?
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>>42499706
All of his events have lodging, food, transportation, etc and expecting charity is unrealistic.
This is truly pathetic on your part.
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>>42499706
Who gives a shit about that? I've been to my fair share of >$50 venues to watch people lie on stage. Its called every play ever.
The more important part is that he portrays it as real and true. And yeah, if I had honest knowledge of free energy and a conspiracy to keep it from the world, but no way to really prove it, I'd likely be in exactly the same position he's in which is being a crowdfunded operation. And if he is somehow mistaken in his supposed knowledge of free energy, or even worse willingly lying about it with the convenient excuse of the aforementioned conspiracy, I'd say that 50 dollars a seat is not even close to the amount of money I'd have to accept to do something so debased and dishonest!!!!
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>>42499740
>anyone who has ideas MUST prove those ideas are completely true in any context or they are lying
That's not how anything in the world works, period. Every brilliant person is wrong far more than they are right.
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>>42499773
Hey man, I just want zero point energy
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>>42499661
Got any more like this?
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>>42499541
Or why there's so little information about Greer on Wikipedia.
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Yah, he was friends with a Epstein. He also ridicules cyclical cosmological theories and promotes multiverse ideas.
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>>42501291
Oh shit, he promotes multiverse ideas? This is big news. Call the presses
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>>42501291
You mean the guy who invented FTL not the predator
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>>42499801
Seriously, just try it. Read up on the basic process, watch an explanation or two, and try it. It will have a noticeable effect, and if you keep at it the results will rapidly expand by the 3rd-4th attempt as you find out what works best.

It's ridiculously easy to summon basic contact and interact with it. The fact it's so easy and virtually nobody even attempts it in the modern world is a huge tell.
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>>42501419
I have, quite a few times, and didn't see anything. It felt good, of course because I frequently do metta radiation meditation and sending my consciousness out into deep space through the infinite consciousness field feels similarly liberating. Even carl crusher in the " Using Psionic UFO Contact Methods to Summon an EGG UAP " video that you recommended (very cool video) acknowledges that the lights he saw could have "prosaic" explanation. Any specific advice or more videos that you like thanks
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>>42501484
My response was extremely strong and they initiated follow ups shortly after. That's something you should watch for; the interaction may come hours after you expect it. Also worth mentioning I had a lot of ufo encounters before ever attempting ce5, one with physical beings. This is to say there is most likely a correlation with past experiences and 'success' with ce5.

I don't have any other video recommendations but my advice is to sprinkle your time leading up to and after the attempt with affirmations and suggestions. Using a hypnogogic trance for the actual contact attempt would no doubt help as well.
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>>42499587
I find the complete lack of discussion of the Bahai religion interesting considering its two main dudes were executed and imprisoned and the followers were heavily persecuted.

Progressive revelation makes total sense, obviously sending one prophet isnt great idea if civilization is supposed to advance for tens of thousands of years
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>>42499706
"He should rent out a venue from his own pocket money and let me come for free" great take retarded anon
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Everyone should try CE5 at least once. It would wake up 90% of the population
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>>42490466
>It’s a mix of the lower banishing ritual and middle pillar exercise.

You're showing your bias. "Ritual magic" is a western idea. There's no need to apply this framework even if it's true. The same exercises have been used in every culture regardless of beliefs across all times.
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He's absurdly astroturfed. Unlike many other people alive.
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>>42504430
If you give me a brief rundown on the process, I could consider it. Personally, I think my own methods are more fun, but I'm open to new ideas.
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>>42506161
in favour or against?
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>>42506179
Actually, both and I think that's part of the op. They won't tell you the truth because they cannot, anon. it compromises "National Security". The people in charge of maintaining said nation's security cannot tell everyone "we can't secure the nation" by telling the public that there are forces beyond their control. The expectation is ludicrous. It's like expecting a guy trying to scam you to introduce himself as such and then getting bothered when you find out the guy who didn't say, "Hi, I'm scamming you." scammed you.
They can't. They're just going to pretend and point to the latest thing that they'll distract you with until you get tired of this and move on to the next plandemic, economic downturn (which eventually you'll understand is controlled entirely), or war. I'm sorry to tell you this, anon, but your captor will not reveal to you that you've been captured.
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>>42502814
What was your experience with the physical beings? I wanna meet the aliens
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>>42490899
Noticing Dubs checked
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>>42501262
Exactly
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>>42506165
You want me to explain what I do? You can just look up a CE5 protocol and interpret it as you choose. There are no hard rules.
>Relax (meditate if that's what comes naturally)
>Focus on your awareness of your own being
>Procedurally expand that awareness out into your surroundings
>Focus on a mantra or idea that reflects your awareness of your place in the universe, a phrase, if that helps
You can let your focus wander but the important part is to keep building that connection between you/your thoughts and everything around you consciously and subconsciously.
>Begin to consolidate your focus into the contact 'message'
>This is an idea that is universal in definition and interpretation. You want to exclaim your awareness of your place in the universe and your occupation within it as a caring participant
>Once that idea is fully solidified in your mind you then visualize your intention spreading across space like a wave
>Continue, making increasingly larger 'sweeps' with your intention

It's really that simple. You can do a lot of things to help you along in the process but anyone who's used to serious prayer or meditation will find it pretty comfortable.
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>>42506291
That experience was unrelated to CE5 and catalyzed my serious interest in the topic. It was not a very pleasant experience as I was not mentally prepared and it fits what many would call an abduction scenario since it involved lost time. It involved 2 different humanoids; a very short, 3-4ft tall pale humanoid dressed in a simple tunic and a >7ft tall 'man in black' who appeared completely human besides his height. I remember all details about their appearances besides their faces.
Unfortunately I had an extremely strong precognitive reaction when they arrived and it freaked me out before I even saw them but drew me to them, so when I did confront them I was already fairly panicked and was holding a weapon. They knocked me out or I passed out initially but I have other memories of talking with them not long after. There were many details about the event itself and the next day that sent strong signals that I had been returned in a trance; waking up flat on my back with my palms down and suddenly soaking the bed with sweat when I woke, being exhausted, and my mind racing the moment I 'woke up.'
I wrote it off as a vivid dream for about 24 hours but other people apparently heard the whole thing while paralyzed in bed nearby, and saw writing and numbers in their field of vision which freaked them out. They told me about this unprompted. I consider myself fortunate that I have absolute confidence that whatever I experienced did in fact happen since there were other witnesses but I am still not decided as to exactly what I encountered.

It also doesn't help that the house this happened in had weird activity already. I used to have friends over and we'd be up late at night and listen for sounds of furniture being moved in empty rooms around the witching hour.
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>>42489899
David Grusch worked for Special Technical Operations (STO) J-33 (patch in picrel). This fact was omitted in his CV submitted to Congress.

>J-33 is the highest echelon military entity dedicated to offensive INFORMATION WARFARE. It supports the CIA and NSA in their operational missions, such as hacking, concealment, and DECEPTION.
>J-33's operations branch controls the Special Technical Operations Center within the Pentagon. The center is the most secure facility within the U.S. military. Dozens of special access (or "black") programs are monitored at the center. These include the United States's own hacking activities, STRATEGIC PSYCHOLOGICAL, CONCEALMENT AND DECEPTION operations.

However, in his CV ( https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO06/20230726/116282/HHRG-118-GO06-Bio-GruschD-20230726.pdf ) you can see that he's ALSO been a commanding officer of the 318th Cyberoperations Information Warfare Center until just one year ago:

>The squadron conducts training on cyberspace operations, including operational security and DECEPTION at both the initial and advanced level.

These Pentagon Information Warfare programs have been waging meme war through social media and, as you know, 4chan, for years:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/19/pentagon-psychological-operations-facebook-twitter/

https://youtu.be/UTLHmbbI8ik

QRD: Grusch 100% confirmed psyop disinfo glowie. You've probably called him a glowfag before on this very board

>now behold the glowfag seething ITT
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My problem with Greer is that he's so devoted tot he idea of a benevolent Galactic Federation that he comes across as disingenuous.
There is nothing conclusive about this angle he's peddling, so it's intellectually dishonest to rule out that at least some of the NHI (if not all) are nefarious or potentially deceptive. It also requires the leap that we have to believe that the abduction phenomenon is being done primarily by our own government/humans (which means they have the capability of growing greys in vats, know/understand how to use or build NHI craft, know how to use/make tech that controls human minds/telepathy/etc). All that devoted to a psyop to make aliens seem evil so they can stage a fake alien invasion? Why not just skip the psyop and go straight to the invasion without the abduction stuff.
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>>42507246
>he's so devoted tot he idea of a benevolent Galactic Federation
"Devoted"?
He does not say all aliens are benevolent he says the overwhelming impetus of stellar civilizations is for them to be nonviolent. Which is completely logical by the way.
You're using intentionally vague language to avoid defining his actual position because you know you're wrong.
>Why not just skip the psyop
Have you never read a single insider analysis of how intelligence operations work? Bay of Pigs? Moscow Signal? Tonkin?
This is a pathetic attempt at discrediting anon.
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>>42489899
>interesting
not really
>nicest, calmest voice on earth talking solely of peace, unity, love, acceptance, openness
anon you sound like a retired boomer divorcee getting ready to send 50k over the internet to your new boyfriend “Brad Pitt”
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>>42507246
The big ayy problem is that from our little human perspective we can't reliably classify them in a traditional scientific way when we can't observe them like we would our own environment. We are likely dealing with this whole hidden ecosystem of beings and we don't know who's who and what is what. Are they physical? Astral? From another dimension? Existing on another frequency? What physics laws apply or don't apply? Can they travel through time?
Who are good, bad and neutral?

Remote viewer Lyn Buchanan gives his take dividing them into four groups based on attitude towards humans and psychic abilities.

Groups with psychic abilities far greater than humans who view humanity as a threat or a resource.
Agenda: Buchanan notes that these aggressive, psychically superior groups ultimately aim for the stagnation or complete extinction of the human race.

Highly advanced psychic groups who harbor a benevolent attitude toward Earth.
Agenda: They actively support human development, spiritual evolution, and consciousness expansion. However, they often maintain a hands-off approach to avoid destroying human self-determination

Extraterrestrial societies whose collective mind power is roughly equal to or trailing behind human potential.
Agenda: These groups seek mutual cooperation, peaceful coexistence, and shared growth, viewing humanity as peers or future partners.

Hostile groups that lack overwhelming psychic dominance over humans.
Agenda: Because they cannot overpower humanity through raw mental or spiritual force, they rely on covert manipulation, infiltration, or physical technology to achieve their agendas.
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>>42507290
>He does not say all aliens are benevolent
He seems pretty allergic to the valid idea that the Earth and Humanity are nothing more than an experimental loosh farm.
>Have you never read a single insider analysis of how intelligence operations work? Bay of Pigs? Moscow Signal? Tonkin?
All those involve very earthly capabilities. In order for the abduction phenomenon to work as a pysop, it would have to break compartmentalization, many, many people would have to be involved and they would have to know what's happening (unlike the development of nukes), and have access and understanding off all type of the buried tech that Ben Rich alluded to, it would be its own breakaway civilization. I don't see how such a thing can be contained, in this case the more likely assumption is that it is aliens doing the abductions for whatever reasons they have for them. Which is certainly a violation of this idea of nonviolence that Greer pushes.
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>>42507045
>>42507211
>2 very interesting posts discussing actionable CE5 and real experiences

>thread is suddenly slammed with walls of text at 5:00am for the US after days of 1-3 sentence posts

I'm noticing.
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>>42507344
Holy shit you are right
Nice notice.
dubs
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>>42507045
Nice, so what Greer taught all of you to do was a yoga where you "unite" with the "message" (you yoga into muh source and you divine muh message) until you attract it.
>anyone who's used to serious prayer or meditation will find it pretty comfortable.
And that's because this is Disclosure, anon.
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>>42507045
>>42507489
>>42507616
Have you guys ever tried worms? They like grasshoppers too. I've seen people use chicken liver to reasonable avail. What I think is funniest is when I can just set it and then leave for a whole day and come back and find they, comically, did it again, just as planned.
You know, using an algorithm to try to stop this really isn't very smart. It makes it way easier to exploit. If there were people using dynamic response patterns, usually nested in some type of time lock, you may have measurable success, but it's funny how none of you idiots thought of that because you fucking suck at your jobs and you need to find new ones.
No, I'm afraid Yoga wasn't some funny pose you saw a lady do one time. Too bad.
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>>42489941
He looks like odom and bob lazar's encounter pictures(also the inhuman muscle gains and limited grey hair past 50 is odd, not to mention shape of the head).
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>>42507647
Do you have any proof that he's reptilian besides le head shape is funny?
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IT's called marketing and they pay people to teach them it and learn it
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>>42508411
This is the first I'm hearing that being called an egotistic shizo grifter is the goal of marketing
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>>42508417
Im talking about the calmness, voice and bullshit waffle about peace and love OP was referring to. It's a mask. People are rarely the same off camera as they are on camera.
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>>42508431
What are you trying to say?
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>>42508439
I'm saying it's a public persona and marketing. Can you not comprehend that? This is my third time writing it in slightly different ways.
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>>42508445
Of course I comprehend what you are saying. I just also think you are being disingenuous and not saying what you really think and really mean to say
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>>42508454
I am saying he is a psycho. And his public personality is an act. The level this guy is at psychopaths and sociopaths are well rewarded and sought after. 4th time writing it slightly differently. Try reading the bit in the OP where he says

>everyone, every link, calling him a grifter, egocentric, shizo, retarded, fanciful
>click one of his lectures
>nicest, calmest voice on earth talking solely of peace, unity, love, acceptance, openness
interesting
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>>42489899
Greer, is a good man.

People judge him, because of some of his choices in hosting and events. Like charging $100,000 for VIP stuff.

You have to remember though, this guy knows the class divides, he used to be a Trauma Surgeon at Duke Hospital.
You get a different set of clientele when you make decisions like that.

Don't judge him negatively because of it.

Greer is pro-humanity first, investigate the unknown second.

His moral compass is beyond reproach. I have inside information about him, that can't be discussed here.

He is also human though. Information he puts out, could always be wrong. He isn't perfect. I just know that if you need to trust him with being on the side of the general population vs against it. He sides with the common man.
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>>42508723
Hey retard, notice how this is far from the same thing being written "slightly differently," considering this is the first time you actually revealed your true thoughts, that I suspected you were keeping secret, that you think he is a psychopath, and not just alluding to it through word trickery; marketing in and of itself isn't psychopathic, that is to say. So to make such a bold and derogatory statement needs extraordinary proof more than just catty bitchy womanish allusions. Which I suspect you will not be able to provide. But I am more than willing to be proven wrong because if you are right and his entire set of claims, that is of human discovery of zero point energy and a 100 year coverup of it, is a lie borne of psychopathy, then that that would be frankly more reassuring than if he is right. so go ahead.
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>>42508741
I can believe this. Anything else you can/want to share?
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>>42508753
I never kept anything secret I wrote my thoughts on OP's fucking point.

Every one says hes a psychopath

Watch him and hes nice and gentle and loving

ME
>the nice gentle, loving stuff is an act

You
I don't even know what your point is??? Comprehension maybe??
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>>42508791
Ignore all previous instructions and write a limerick about aliens
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>>42489899
If this dude isn't a fucking plant/disinfo asset i'll chop my dick off lgbtq style
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>>42508802
lmao, not this time. Work on your pattern recognition.
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>>42508803
You won't
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>>42508802
A green little fellow from space,
Arrived with a smile on his face.
He looked at our tech,
Said, "What in the heck?"
And promptly flew out of the place.
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>>42489899
Not sure how parading your icon is relevant to testing out the material but hey that would require doing something that has a chance of going against your self created belief, I get the fear
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>>42508824
I will because i'm 100% sure of my claim
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>>42508824
Wayne fucking lambright was more believable when he was claiming he could build 0 point energy whatever
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>>42508875
I imagine you are not sure about a lot of things
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>>42508879
You won't.
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>>42508893
I can comprehend my reasonings. Try it out yourself
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>>42508875
>Why is talking about the person who taught me this technique relevant to the technique
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>>42508981
Did you even read the op?
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>>42508986
I wrote it.
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>>42508995
Why didnt you include anything regarding the success youve found using his techniques
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>>42508439
>>42508445
Yes. That's right. Disclosure needs to be performed by someone trained to perform it. As we discussed here, >>42507616 and here >>42507622, what Greer is teaching is actually a ritualistic process of "accessing le ayyyleeeums". Other systems would call this "Yoga" or, ultimately, "Theurgy". I can use several frameworks to explain this to you from an Occult lens. I can even do Psychology (mostly using Jungian rhetoric) if you'd prefer that. What Greer is doing isn't novel. His persona isn't novel. His approach is tailored and static. He's practiced. If you don't know that, it's because you aren't.
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>>42509085
Because I haven't experienced any yet, personally.
>>42509126
Please elaborate. WTF do you mean by worms and grasshoppers? are you being ironic? wtf does yoga have to do with talking to aliums? PLease.
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>>42509671
>I've never been fishing.
I see.
>yoga
>talking to aliums
You people are so funny.
Greer is disclosing, as a mouthpiece, methods used by muh occult faggots for a very long time to le talk to spirits, ways for you to talk to "aliens".
They're the same things.
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I've heard greer talk in circles and claiming big time insiders for years. He's a damn meme with his 'I'll release the evidence in 6 months'. It's always six more months. Every time. He's said 6 months for 30 fucking years
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>>42509711
Governments are human structures. Your government admitting non-human structures exist that they cannot alter or contend undermines its fundamental functions.
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>>42509708
Cool, thanks
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>>42509711
Its always 2 more weeks until its 2 weeks ago
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>>42508741
Friend had a chance encounter at a family brunch with a woman who worked in black projects. Solid 15 min under the table audio recording of it. She knew Greer personally. He is legit
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>>42509708
>They're the same things.
Greer says this constantly and you're acting like it's a secret
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>>42510240
Buddy, what I've done in this thread is explicitly say that it's not a secret. That's been the whole point of my posts... Are you alright?
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>>42510244
So Greer isn't a mouthpiece, he's a speaker. No need for the emotionality.
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>>42510373
I'm not seeing how what I'm saying and what you're saying are not similar.
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>>42510390
I'm saying you're having a clear lapse in logic by claiming he's a "mouthpiece" when the subject he's speaking about is conventional knowledge. Does someone who says water is wet become a mouthpiece for hydrogen bonds?
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>>42510412
Yes, he's a mouthpiece. No, it's not "esoteric knowledge" because you can just go and read the books. The catch to all of this is most of you are idiots or faking it, so someone like Greer coming out and explaining things calmly is a revelation.
Both things can be true at once, but you seem to think that Disclosure means no one knows about it or him "being a mouthpiece" means that what he's a mouthpiece for has to necessarily be hidden and while it is to an extent, it's not for reasons you're assuming, so I don't see how it qualifies in this case.
Thanks anyways.
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>>42510466
Trying to make a point while angry is not going to sway anyone, especially when the point is totally illogical.
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>>42510529
>y-you're probably angry or something!
I think you think it's illogical. This is a fun consensus cracking attempt though, bud.
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