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I have done some Krav Maga, Boxing, BJJ and now Muay Thai. Muay Thai and boxing are what I have enjoyed the most by far and it keeps me the most fit so I am sticking with them. I sucked at BJJ and it was expensive as fuck. Boxing is cheap and I am getting so much fucking fitter and tougher from the training.


Obviously, apart from Muay Thai, a lot of traditional martial arts have been shown to be less than practical in competition (UFC and all that). I still sort of like the movement of arts like Wing Chun - it looks cool against the dummy even if a good boxer/MT fighter would knock them out quickly.


Would like to try a little bit of a TMA that looked cool just for the experience.

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What sort of exercise equipment would you have in your ideal martial arts home gym?
Obvious ones like a heavy bag, pull up bar, bench, kettlebells.
Any rarer interesting ones? Indian clubs. Wing Chun dummy. Iranian shield of zoorkhaneh

I'm thinking of kungfuing my way to the top.

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>>237846
h-haiyaa..!?

Martial arts were not made by Christians, they need no further comment to tell they are rubbish.

>>237846
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1752800802450735.webm" target="_blank">https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1752800802450735.webm

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>know this boomer
>when he was a kid, he did combat sport martial arts like boxing and judo for a little while
>in his teens/early 20s, he started doing traditional arts
>he seems to have swallowed a lot of their mystical shit and refuses to question it
>even though he didn't do any of them for particularly long, and he hasn't practiced at any actual place of training in about 40 years or more, he still thinks he's a legend
>is overly critical and disrespectful of anything other than the arts he did when he was younger (seems like a common trait among traditional martial artists)
>thinks he's a deadly weapon - tells people he can kill them with his thumb, that type of shit
>one time we were discussing martial arts (his wish, not mine, obviously)
>the subject of kicking range and people kicking mid-air comes up
>he had done one of these arts that includes that shit
>if he had just told me that he's trained to do jumping kicks/mid-air kicks, it would have been fine
>instead he tells me, "i can fly"
>"i can fly"
What gets me is that this isn't even that unique. I've met a few boomers over the years who got swallowed up by the mysticism of traditional martial arts that were more popular between the 60s and the 80s. It's like they keep bragging to try and stay relevant in a world that's quickly forgetting about them and they refuse to join in. I realise it wouldn't be easy for them to spend years on this stuff, only to be confronted with the notion that maybe a lot of it wasn't what they were originally sold. But why do they do this? Despite what they say, they obviously care what other people think. Or they wouldn't spend so much time and energy arguing their point and bragging. Like the guy I know clearly wants to teach me, but they job he's done of presenting it has completely talked me out of it, and he can't figure out why. Even after I've told him.
Has anyone else encountered this?

I found out where my sister's rapist lives so this is my plan:

1)Dress up as a delivery man then knock on the door.

2)When he answers throw the fake package in his face then superman punch to blast double.

3)Kneebar both legs until the toes are touching the hip. Straight ankle lock both feet until the sole of the foot is touching the calf. Calf slice both legs until the heel is touching the butt. Inside and outside heel hook both feet 360°. Lateral kneebar both legs until the foot is touching the hip.

4)Kimura and americana both arms 360°. Wrist lock both wrists in multiple directions until the hand is being held on just by skin. Armbar both arms until the pinky is touching the rear delt. Bicep slice both arms until the forearm is floppy.

5)Banana split and suloev stretch both legs until I hear a rip. Twister both directions until I hear a crack. Jumping knee on belly until all ribs are broken. Sprinting soccer kicks until the balls are ruptured.

>>237834
things I own

>heavy bag
>speed bag
>homemade double end bag
>pull up bar
>gymnastic rings
>kettlebells
>bulgarian bags
>macebells

things I want

>iranian shields
>iranian steel bow
>greek halteres
>throwing dummy
>assault bike
>row machine

Actual martial artists who have been here since /asp/ hang out in the better discord server: https://discord.gg/htTB7dsawH

>>238899
No we don't, tranny.

>>228606
>What to be wary of
>moves shown are choreographed (e.g. "the attacker does this, then I do this, then you do this...")
Is this regarding choreographed drills that are thought of as set-in-stone, like "attacker does a jab, you parry, they they cross, you parry again and then return a cross - this will always work."...? Or is it even regarding variables / what-ifs, like "attacker jabs, you can do a/b/c, or if they jab/cross, you can do x/y/z"?
I know sparring is a pressure test and sometimes the things you've learned can go out the window in the heat of the moment, but how the hell are you gonna get muscle memory (especially lower ranks) if you don't practice something a lot like a choreographed drill?
I agree that you can't be thinking that drills need to be set-in-stone, there is a counter for everything. But sometimes it's good to keep a static drill set if you want to build muscle memory.

>>242828
there's no such thing as muscle memory in an unstable system
it's not like they keys of a piano that will always be in the same place and make the same sound each time, every moment in fighting is novel and dynamic with little predictability

the skill is in developing the ability to quickly attune to affordances and act upon them decisively

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who actually won this fight?

>>242829
Okay so how are the skills developed if the OP is saying to be wary of choreographed moves? Maybe it just needs to be worded better because it almost looks like that encompasses drill sets, or even kata. Maybe it needs to say "No sparring / choreographed sparring (e.g. "the attacker does this, then I do this, then you do this...")".

Regarding muscle memory, I understand what you mean for fine motor skill movements. For gross motor skill movements, muscle memory is basically another word for a knee-jerk reaction. The skill can be developed the same way as you said, but sometimes it's also about breaking bad habits.

>>242852
Everything that can be done live needs to be done live as much as possible
There's some required work around like hitting pads because you can't wallop a real person all the time, But tools like that should be used as sparingly as you can get away with

Get in there and just practice touching someone without getting touched or grabbing someone and knocking them over without getting knocked over
The only way to get good at a thing is to do the thing

>>242854
The only way? So are you saying you don't find value in drill sets? Genuinely interested.

>>242855
You can practice specific skills but the result it what matters not how you get there
So you create the scenario, start with someone hugging around your waist and the goal is break the grips and turn to face them
Or start laying on the ground with someone standing over you, get back to your feet and don't let them touch your face or pin you

Just do it live, run the scenarios for real every time. There's no benefit in scripting it and practicing cooperatively because that's just one hypothetical reaction out of infinite things that could happen
Your best use of time is getting used to all the chaotic variables so you can quickly adapt to the changing environment

>>242858
>There's no benefit in scripting it and practicing cooperatively because that's just one hypothetical reaction out of infinite things that could happen
I agree it's non-beneficial if that's all you do, and there is no progression to higher intensity, but not everyone can learn something new by constantly being thrown in the deep end. You can also fine tune the techniques if you slow it down, you can hammer it in by drilling it, and then definately test it live as you say. Hell, even test it with multiple attackers with plastic knives while protecting someone.
Besides, the whole conversation is regarding what to be wary of when looking for a gym. If I was a beginner with zero experience or confidence and I joined a muay thai club, and they showed me all the techniques and then said to only practice during full on sparring, what do you think is going to happen?
I get your point that you need to do real meaningful training, but it's a skill that needs to be developed safely over time and adjusted through experience.

It's funny how after enjoying aikido for the large part of my adult life, brainlets and "MA-bros" everywhere tell me im a cult and that i am being "brainwashed" into thinking about how effective it would be in a "real fight" etc.

When all i wanna do is practice, get better, have fun, stay fit, become spiritually fulfilled and so much more. I've traveled in Japan training in various dojo's, I always meet the nicest people and i love my life. And i have a lot to thank aikido for. What are your thoughts on this? I share this with so many other aikidoka. The reason i write this is i wanna convey that people's reasons for training are varied. I hope i don't come across as condescending either, i respect other arts and i realize im not really "useful in a fight" which is how most people i practice with see it too. But why should we look down on ourselves? Aikido is a mirror sometimes. It detect your intent and if your intent is becoming a "fighting machine" you're gonna think it's stupid. I hope some of you understand what im trying to get at.

>>242919
>When all i wanna do is practice, get better, have fun, stay fit
You can do all of that better by doing crossfit or other group activities at some gym. Martial art, as in MARS (god of war) is about winning some fights. You love your life? Good. Carpenters does also. Now what if some thug wants to end the said life? That's what martial arts are for. The problem isn't you enjoying aikido but not understand what MA are for.

>>228606
The only gym that is cheap and easy to get to + has showers and lockers... Doesn't clean the mats. It offers judo and wrestling as well as bjj

I've spoken to a bjj black belt who said most places don't clean the mats

It's putting me off going again

>>242919
I know an aikido guy and he is very agile, strong for his size and packs a good kick, he would destroy most people unless you're a genuine amatuer/ semi pro fighter. Your average hobbyist of the MMA approved arts he would make them earn the win. I've held the bag whilst hes kicked it and he will break your ribs one hit

>>238547
Kimura the hard way

>>242836
Went to a seminar with Leo Fong who said he was there to see it. Wong Jack Man started by trying to lay down ground rules. Bruce Lee says fuck the rules and starts wing chun chain punching down the middle. Wong Jack Man turns and runs while Bruce Lee is chasing him around the room in a circle, still chain punching in pursuit.

>>242919
If all Aikido guys would talk like you nobody would complain. The problem is that most Aikido Guys are very vocal about how Aikido is the best and most effective martial Art and tend to sneer at most other arts while getting blown out of the water by most of them.

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>>242836
>>244485
I've spent a lot of time looking into it on all sides of the story. Leo Fong was actually active on Facebook before passing away and posted a little about it. Here's a video of him talking about it, and then Fong himself posts in the video comments on Facebook (can't share the Facebook link here, for some reason):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Suxd-EWw4g8

So Leo Fong wasn't there to see it, he lived in Stockton at the time and couldn't come. James Lee and Bruce Lee just called him on the phone after. David Chin though, the guy with Wong's side who instigated the whole thing, basically confirms what Fong said. According to the book Striking Distance, David Chin said this:
>"From there," explains Chin, "he said he gives up and we stopped the fight. The whole thing lasted... not more than seven minutes.
>David Chin, very frank about the matter decades later, concedes, “I’ve always felt bad for Wong Jack Man, so I would tell people it was a draw.”

As you said, it was mostly just Wong running and Bruce chasing after him. At some point Wong fell backwards, Bruce gets on top of him (while tired out from chasing) and punches until Wong gives up and his people break it up. It was a sloppy affair all around, not much of a fight, but if you had to name a winner it'd be Bruce.

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>>244609
There's a lot of BS around it, like stories about Wong demanding a rematch and Bruce refusing, but if you look into it that's not what happened. Wong had a story published in a newspaper called the Chinese Pacific Weekly giving his side and ended it with this:
>"He says that in the future he will not argue his case again in the newspaper, and if he is made to fight again, he will instead hold a public exhibition so that everyone can see with their own eyes."
Maybe that's an insinuation of being open to a rematch, but that's all. Bruce didn't respond, but if you look at the timeline Brandon Lee was born literally days after that article and shortly after that Bruce was moving forward with Hollywood and getting the Green Hornet role. There's no reason he would bother responding to Wong hinting (at most) at a rematch at that point in his life.

Honestly I don't care about Bruce Lee fight stories that much, he was a martial arts teacher and an actor, not someone with a fighting career. So they're fun trivia, but what he was doing as a teacher and actor is more interesting to me. Like his work with Joe Lewis is cooler to read about. They had a close relationship that became complicated and ended poorly (for personal reasons), but Bruce had a big impact on him and seems to have helped inspire him to start kickboxing as a sport in America.

Good interview that talks about their training together:
https://www.backkicks.com/joe-lewis-candid-interview-1974/
The image comes from a separate interview found in Masters Magazine.

>>244306
Offer to clean the matts. Obviously it depends on things like if you are still around when they finish for the day so they can close after a clean, and how big the floor and how much time you have after a session. But if it works out then it might only take 30 minutes to an hour max to do a simple vacuum and mop, and they might appreciate it enough that they offer a discount or free membership, or they help you a bit more than usual with certain things you're trying to learn. Just don't ask for anything in return. Doing things like this is how you get in the good books while solving your main problem.
>inb4 its not muh job

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what are your thoughts on the bujinkan? i know their schools usually just teach taijutsu and not ninjutsu, despite their marketing, but i thought it'd be nice to try out sometime, though i don't have any dojos nearby :/

Does kung fu ever have sparring?

Recently started looking into martial arts. Around me there's a few options, listed here with the number of times I could make class:
JKA Karate, twice a week, an hour each class
BJJ Renzo Gracie lineage, Gi and Nogi two/three times a week, 45 minutes gi 45 minutes nogi offered each day for a total of 1.5 hours per day total
Yoshinkan Aikido, three times a week, one hour each class
What do y'all think I should opt for? I can only pick one.

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>>246956
if they offer a free test class, then take it and see how it is; the hygiene, students, instructors. you know, the overall quality. and, of course, if you like it.

personally, i'd go with karate, but that's since i don't really like bjj and aikido is sort of a hit or miss with the quality of the dojo. but, as i said, try them out!

>>246896
Depends on the kung fu. Some do.

>>246956
What are your goals for martial arts?

>>246965
I'm torn desu. I like the practicality of BJJ, how genuinely useful it seems, and I've done a few classes and had a good time. I've always wanted to do karate since I was a kid, but I'm put off by how inflexible I am. That being said, I have always been drawn to striking. Aikido looks cool as hell, looks like a blast to do, but everyone says it's functionally useless. So yeah, I'm torn.

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Im extremely undecided on what martial art i want to begin with. Im most interested in wrestling but also open to judo, kickboxing, muay thai, and karate. When i look up schools and gyms that teach anything, i can never find anything that looks promising. I live near LAX practically. Ive spent the last 4 hours just looking around and I honestly dont know if what ive been looking at is even worth trying out.

Anyone around Socal that can give me some recommendations?

>>246956
I think bjj is bad as a first martial art because you should learn first to fight standing and aikido is good only as complentary to grappling. So Karate if they do decent sparring.

>>247011
Isn't grappling widely considered one of the more useful arts?

>>247046
it's considered a good base because 9/10 you will get into a grappling situation
if you did wrestling in high school or college though you're wasting your time taking bjj and most other grappling arts for that matter.

As a 24 y/o with zero martial arts experience. Should I get into kickboxing or just boxing? Ive always wanted to get into boxing tbf.

>Ive always wanted to get into boxing tbf
Then do it. The most important thing too get good is not quitting and no one sane would say that boxing is a bad MA.

>>247065
Boxing is great. Do it.

>>247067
>>247070
Alright im convinced. I found a gym that is near me, $24 per class or $125 a month. Out of all the martial arts schools/gyms ive looked at (BJJ, muay thai, and karate) this is the cheapest so far. my only concern with this place is the classes seem generalized since no reservations are required and theyre for all boxing and fitness levels, or maybe im just overthinking idk.

They say sparring is offered but you need a amateur license with USABoxing. Is this a meme?

>>247071
Not a meme, they take amateur boxing very seriously.

>>247046
Yes it is if it's wrestling or judo, bjj often neglects takedowns, which are more important to learn first.

What's the least "martial" martial art while still possessing a lot of physicality and demanding a lot of athleticism? I don't care about fighting at all. But I'd like something more mindful and less of a grind than the gym or crossfit or something

>>247153
Modern wushu

>>247153
Kung fu and point karate/tkd.
Any art that focuses on kata.

When did punching bags skyrocket in price?
I bought an 80lbs Everlast bag a decade ago for $40 on Amazon. Now they're minimum $100 for 60lbs.

>>247472
Same way everything skyrocketed in price over the past few years. Inflation blows.

I'm debating starting kendo. Looks like a good time, but also a few friends are giving me shit for it being unrealistic for fighting innastreetz. Do people think it's worth it? I just wanna whack people with bamboo swords and be a weeb.

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>>242919
I just like my dojo, enjoy training, and want to get better.

>>246965
Only through sparring can I get really good at fighting.

>>228606
What´s the best weapon using martial art? HEMA? What´s the best melee weapon? Halberd?

>>247598
Why do you care what your friends think? You'll actually be doing something productive instead of just sitting around on your ass criticizing others for trying something new.

While kendo is a martial art, 99.9% of kendoists are training to get better at kendo, not to win street fights. Do you make fun of tennis or basketball players for practicing something "unrealistic"? If you are interested in Japanese swordsmanship and culture but also enjoy the physicality and competitive spirit of sparring then you would fit right in

>>247706
You make good points. Thanks anon.

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>>228606
Neo Nazis in Canadian MMA gyms

How bullshit is Yoshinkan Aikido? There's a dojo near my place with good credentials. It looks like fun, but on a scale of "completely" to "not at all" how useless is it? I heard it's one of the harder styles, though I don't know precsely what that means.

>>247941
If you never practiced martial arts don't do aikido. No matter how good the techniques are you can only fight if you know how to fight and you can only learn how to fight by fighting. Basically, practice a combat sport with a lot of sparring.

>>247941
Completely.

>>247944
>>247945
Completely worthless then? Dang.

>>247948
The only thing that's somewhat salvageable is that it teaches you breakfalls. Something you can learn in most other forms of grappling anyways and still learn an useful, competitive, more fun style
>I heard it's one of the harder styles
Either that's slightly less of a dance than other schools or that it's even more complicated to actually make it work

>>247955
Fuck. It looked like a lot of fun. I really hoped at least a litte was practical.

>>228606

is 30 too old for me to get good at martial arts? I don't mean world class, just "wow that guy is pretty good, he know his stuff". I've always loved martial arts but I lived my whole life till now in a very rural place with no access to any. I just want to get good at grappling.

>>248298
>I don't mean world class, just "wow that guy is pretty good, he know his stuff".
You're definitely still young enough to reach that level. Just start now, if you want to do it then don't keep putting it off. Or else next thing you know you'll be asking that same question when you're 40.

>>248300

It's just hard to find shit near where I live in the sticks, which is why I'm thinking of moving. There was a retired Olympian who lived near me and taught me TKD up to yellow belt and then stopped having time. I'd give him booze in exchange for lessons. He then randomly gave me a black belt and was like "fuck it, I'm qualified to do this - here's a black belt"

>>248304
>I'd give him booze in exchange for lessons.
Are you the main character of some manga?

>>248305

idk he gave me a black belt after giving me a yellow so maybe lmao. He's a genuine ex-Olympian and was really fucking good (you can tell by how he spars) but he is also just a drunk middle aged guy who would ask me to bring him booze and to stay over after and play board games with him while he drank. He also served me food he made like oxtail. He used to tell me I had "natural potential" and that I could realistically get a black belt in a year. It just made me feel good. One day he just said he was too busy to keep training me and gave me a black belt. Not seen him since.

>>228606
How do I get started? Im 22 and have very limited experience with wrestling and muay thai... is it to late for me?
>>228607
What sport is this

>>248944
Korean wrestling, find a good gym and start.

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>>248944
Depends on how developed your muscles are. If you've never trained before then keep in mind that no matter the art that you do, your muscles will end up real sore after the first classes, so take it easy. Train anything that seems interesting to you, try some classes and see if you like 'em or not. My recommendation would be to avoid muay thai, MMA, sanda, and the like, since they'd be too "hardcore" for you. My suggestions for starting out would be boxing (best one overall, you'll get a ton out of it, except wrestling, duh), judo (unless you're really skinny or frail, if you really wanna do it then go to the gym first) or kickboxing (you'll get to know how to kick and punch well overall), and then you could try something like muay thai. If you like you could also check out more eastern traditional martial arts besides judo, like karate (any kind, though shotokan is more sport like), taekwondo (ITF, which is like light contact kickboxing if you want, WT is the olympic one, aka "leg fencing", and ATA is a scam) or kung fu (as far as i know, choy lee fut and bajinquan are the most practical styles)

>>248307
sorry anon, he used you as a drinking buddy but now he's trying to go sober because of health issues. Sorry you had to find out this way.

I'm a fat fuck who's reasonably tall looking for a physically involved hobby. What martial arts would be best suited for me to pick up, so I can start looking around

>>251097
any striking martial art is best for fitness, depending on your fat fuckicity, the only thing you'll run into as a problem is that there is a lot of "that's just how we've always done it" that can impact health in less healthy individuals. Any more fight-focused gym will always be watching your weight and joint health better.

Train the school, not the style - find a school near you that's good and do that, if you enjoy it, stick it out. That's really all there is to it.

>>251103
Thanks, anon. There is an isshinryu karate dojo near me that's in my budget. I'm going to start next week.

>>228606
I went to my first taekwondo class tonight and it was just really casual I guess? I don't know what I was expecting, but no one was in a uniform except the two instructors, I was easily the most fit person there, the students I saw were hitting the bags really light and sloppily with no energy, and the young kid (maybe 14) I was training with just whined the entire time about being dizzy from spin kicks. Is this normal? There's only one other place in my town so this might be it for me. I'm on a 30 day free trial so i lose nothing if I don't go back, other than being a little rude.

>>253144
30 day free trial is a desperation play
My undisclosed martial art gym doesn't even give a free intro class
You pay for a trial and if you decide to sign up you get credited back what you paid

>>253147
Yeah it felt weird to me there was a trial period, any other red flags I should look for when I go back? I'm at least giving it a fair shot before I go check out the other location, which seems more serious

>>253148
I'm always skeptical if the HNIC is extremely out of shape
Or if there's any language about what they're doing being the real stuff and calling other things fake

That signals delusion if you genuinely think what you're doing is the only real stuff and nobody else knows what they're doing
And I say this as someone hyper critical of my peers and think a lot of them are idiots that totally lost the plot, but I'm not going to say I'm the only one out there that knows what he's doing or even the only one in the area that does

>>253154
>Or if there's any language about what they're doing being the real stuff and calling other things fake
I didn't hear anything like this really, but I never saw the actual head guy, he was in a different room the whole time

>>253156
Just doesn't seem like you enjoyed it much

>>253144
there are some WIMPS in martial arts, you'll find them all over the place. It's okay, they're working on themselves and trying to be better. That should be applauded. They actually gotta get better though and not shit talk everyone when they leave to save face though. I always say it's okay to have whiners in the low ranks/belts, but you gotta look out for a place if they're filling the middle ranks too.

I'm a faggot, are there any martial arts which don't require you to trim your nails?

>>255311
Boxing. You wear gloves and shoes.

found a shorin ryu dojo that has only been around a year and meets at a gym and it's like 7 dudes. How likely am i to get raped if I go check it out?

>>228606
Dunno if this is the right place to post this, wanted to post this on either the Karate General or Judo General, but didn't want to repeat the question multiple times to annoy people. But where do you guys (and the rest of the martial arts guys on /xs/) plan to go when or if this site goes down again?
Almost every single altchan/imageboard I've seen doesn't have a board or a place to post about martial arts, and most martial arts forums aside from Sherdog are dead, and I can't stand using plebbit. Is there any other alternative place to discuss martial arts that's as good as here?

I live rural. The only martial arts gym within an hour of me that teaches an actual martial art is a “traditional” karate place that teaches BJJ on the weekend. Instructor is apparently a Machado black belt but I can’t find anything on him in regards to competition. Should I just bite the bullet and go for it? Is driving over an hour for a more easily verifiable good gym worth it?

>>228607
Really hot body type

>>257656
Its worth checking out. Smaller less commercial places like that usually have decent quality and if the guys there are fit and spar and don't just do kata all the time then that's even more of a plus.

>>257918
Would go for the closer option. Driving less than an hour makes it easier to find motivation to go to the classes. Unfortunately with karate schools you have to get pretty lucky to find a good one especially if you don't live in a place that has many martial arts schools in general.

Musashi taught us to train martial arts with visualization.

>>257812
you havent got a response in almost 5 days. the threads almost a year old. suggest finding somewhere else you enjoy online and seeing if anybody else there is into this shit

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tcma fags rise up

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R8 my home dojo.

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karate blocks vindicated

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What martial arts can work while wearing hakama? would you trip and break your face if you tried to do bajiquan in hakama?
I'm trying to come up with a cool character design for something and I don't know if hakama would be retarded or not

>>258614
you can do pretty much anything in an hakama, I skip rope/do cartwheels in mine

>>258675
dope, thank you anon. would love to see a pic if you got any

There's a kung fu studio nearish where I live that's very heavy on traditional methods and learning that I've wanted to go to for some time and I've finally taken the plunge. Because they try to focus on smaller class sizes, they don't take everyone who wants to sign up and you're required to pass a tryout to make sure you're a good fit for the school and the school is a good fit for you. I have a bit of prep time, no actual knowledge of kung fu needed but I do want to start exercising so I can hit the ground running. Outside of squats/pushups, is there anything else I can start doing right now?

>>258782
Deep long stretching and crunches

>>258850
thanks man, even if i dont get in it's a good habit i should really build

>>228606
I'm 5'3ft 130lbs. I go to an MMA place that does Striking, Wrestling, Judo and BJJ. I can only pick two to focus on. I want to pick the ones that would best allow me to defend myself. Striking+Wrestling is optimal right? Since I wouldnt want to go on the ground during a street fight due to multiple attackers/weapon possibilities.

>>258989
Striking to target critical spots fast like a snake that bites you before you realize thats what happened. Wrestling to escape the 300 lb ape pinning you to the ground while they choke the life out of you.
Bjj is a stupid ass meme for Instagram

If there are weapons you are fucked. Best fight is to figure out how to escape the fight

absolutely begging for a full splits routine

>>259234
Stretch deep then.

I'm doing pretty well in my training, but it is making me too defensive. How do you balance karate and life? I don't want to be the unwashed unshaven dude sitting on the porch with a shotgun. And no i am not bragging to gain cred. It is an anonymous image board. I'm a rising star in a dojo at age 36 and it freaks me the fuck out.

Judo gym that does nogi judo, high level judo and BJJ or a MMA gym that teaches Muay Thai, Judo, wrestling, boxing, BJJ, and Kali?

>>259254
Do you have prior martial arts experience?

Having all different martial arts under one roof sounds good on paper, but the quality of instruction often varies if the programs are run by different people. The judo gym is more likely to have everyone on the same page in terms of making a cohesive program.

>>258782
fun little update, they ended up bumping my tryout up by quite a bit and it ended up going really well! I had my first class last night and am definitely feeling it today, but I'm really excited to continue on with it.

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is the wooden dummy only good for wing chun or can it be used for other martial arts? what martial arts is the wooden dummy good or bad for training?

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>>259864
Taken away from all the kung fu mumbo jumbo, it's basically a way to practice getting past somebody's arms. Most martial arts on paper could use it for some sort of practice.

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Does anyone have this?

for the love of god, please, how can i improve my balance?

What are the specific style-counters for these martial arts?
as in, which martial arts best beat these martial arts? no MMA, this isn't a practical question, this is a hypothetical fun question; assume both fighters are each only using one singular martial art style.
>zui quan
>muay thai
>taido
>judo
>jeet kune do
>wing chun
>capoeira

>>260194
>no clue what that is
>probably grappling or strikes that hit the sides?
>no idea
>a strike that goes faster than their evasion or counter
>cerebral edema
>literally anything
>a low kick to their face or ice on the ground

>>260188
Brush your teeth with your non-dominant hand while standing on one foot. For hard mode, close your eyes. Not kidding, try it.

>>260234
which foot?

>>260237
Alternate between em. Try left foot for your top teeth, right foot for your bottom teeth.

>>260251
Forgot to tell him to fix his losing balance by bending his knee more or less. Don't lean to adjust. Try it with different parts of the foot too.

>>260234
>>260251
nta but i just tried this because im a bored phone poster and my powers out. it took about 15 seconds to catch my balance nicely in the dark on the same side foot and maybe 2 or 3 seconds with the opposite side. fun little experiment

I hate that martial arts are either
>sports
or
>mcdojo

I want a MA that's like, sports self-defence. For example, muay thai with proper throws and no grappling below belt or something. If you throw a dude and fall down yourself, you're penalized. Multiple opponent drills, too. Why does this always devolve either into mcdojo krav or olympic/mma memery with its own meta like "hug octagon walls"? Original boxing was boxing+wrestling and then they changed the rules.

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>>260392
You want shootboxing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoot_boxing

Is 37 too old to compete in tournaments? Im almost to my second belt and in great physical health. Im interested in trying out competing, but I worry I'll get bodied by some 20 year old boomer who aims the do permanent damage. I guess the smart thing to do would just check out the scene as a spectator or compete just in kata to start? What belt do people even start competing at even? I practice Seidokan karate

>>260652
Meant to say zoomer, not boomer. Fuckin autocorrect

>>260652
Check out the brackets first. They might have an unc division.

>>228606
I'm thinking of new sport combinations in emulation of chess boxing.
I like the idea of judo-dungeons and dragons or muay thai golf

>>260757
How about karate-bowling

assuming i have dit da jow, how dumb would it be to start doing iron palm conditioning on my own?

>tfw microcosmic orbit doesn't actually make your eyes turn golden

What's you're favorite martial arts media? Lately ive been watching Garouden, playing VF5 as jean kujo, also been playing this weird ass indie on steam https://store.steampowered.com/app/347670/Karate_Master_2_Knock_Down_Blow/

>>260392
full contact karate

>>260759
skeet'n'Jiujitsu
pool and salat

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>>247737

>>261041
Wing-Chun corn-hole

>>260652
Kek you’re practicing karate, just do the dance with other gents in the older age tiers and have fun with it. It’s not like boxing/ thai boxing or mma where you actually get hurt even in the amateur fighting scene.

>>261248
Aren't kumite full contact?

https://handogi.com/

Do i buy one? They're expensive as fuck but look awesome.

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>>237834
i got a foam filled double end bag, theres not much else as far as i know that does such a solid job of simulating incoming punches for slips rolls and pulls during a combo

I start muay thai next tuesday.

Thoughts on practical application of an age-uke?

>>261602
see >>258502

So I'm wanna train to learn how too defend myself and get fitter I wrestled a year in High-school and really enjoyed it but had to stop to work on grades and I was better at other sports but I wanna go back and do some other forms of martial arts likely one strikeing and one grappling so where do I start how do I start

What are your favorite combos to do in kumite?

Im trying to workshop a crescent kick to knock away hand into a side swing to ribs.

I need more punch combos aside from just jabs and blocks.

>>238171
>>instead he tells me, "i can fly"
>>"i can fly

In China I watched people training qing gong. It's basically like parkour. Like running up walls, jumping and catching the edge and climbing over...

But the literal translation of qing gong is "flying skill."

Why do we love fighting sports? We all know there are way better options for self defence, like weapons, situational awareness, not being exposed to danger in the first place, and so on.

>it's fun
Yeah it's fun but there are tons of fun sports that are less injurious.

>this very specific sport is the most fun for me
Ok fair but I don't think it's true for most people here, and in fact that part of the fun is the fact there's fighting involved. So why do we want to participate in martial arts even though we know they are not very martial? Is it just the romantics of it, like trying to be an anime nigga?

>>261727
boxing/kickboxing and greco/freestyle or just muay thai but focus on boxing/clinch aspects

>>260393
That's exactly what I want but there's nowhere to train for it. Well I guess I can ask people at the boxing class if I can add throws to sparring.

>>261756
>Why do we love fighting sports?
I think it's cool practicing a sport that doesn't require a ball or any equipment to do. Obviously you do have equipment (gloves, etc), but the skills function outside the sport. Unlike practicing something like Lacrosse. So it feels like a more productive and meaningful use of time to me, plus it's theoretically useful in situations outside the sport.

Hell, it doesn't need to be a real fight even. Getting boxing training and just asking your friends to try punching you and showing off how hard you can make it for them can be fun. Putting your friends in chokeholds, etc. Cool things to be able to do.

>>261756
>Why do we love fighting sports?
It's the only social sport that I like that has any use on real life besides cardio.
>We all know there are way better options for self defence, like weapons,
Only true in a few countries. A normal citizen here can't even have pepper spray, let alone carry a knife.
>situational awareness,
That's not a hobby unless you want to live like a paranoid schizo
>not being exposed to danger in the first place
I would rather not live afraid of doing normal things like going out at night like everyone does just because there is a small chance of getting in a bad situation.

>>261727
>so where do I start how do I start
take 2 classes

is there anyone here living in the hague who trains/has trained at the martial arts centre?
i'm new to martial arts/combat sports but i feel like the level of teaching there is quite low, though i'm not sure because i don't have much to compare it to right now

>>261763
I guess. Well dancing, especially something like acrobatic rocknroll, is fairly intense and functional. The odds of me fighting someone are probably even lower than using my sick rocknroll moves at an actual event.

>>261771
Dancing has use irl. Lifting has use via halo effect + you get more respect if you're big even in business environment. I'm an eastern euro and I got in only a few fights and all but one of them were easily preventable by walking away. The one that couldn't be prevented that way would have been easily prevented by not drinking at a dark park at night. Otoh a boxer I know dropped a guy, guy died, boxer is in prison for manslaughter.

>>261794
That's a fair point, dancing is another impressive skill with your body alone. It has a different appeal though. Martial arts is something that can work against a resisting person, while dancing generally requires a cooperative partner or is performed alone. So it lets you experience interesting mind games with an opponent that won't get out of dancing. Dancing has competitions of course, but they're mostly competitions where you're being judged separately rather than trying to outsmart someone.

Becoming a great dancer is a better way to get women though.

>>261794
>>261796
this is a good argument for why there's nothing wrong with aikido. it's good exercise (provided you don't join a mcdojo but that goes for everything) and it does look cool

>>261796
Yeah but getting a partner to understand what you're gonna do is also a useful skill. That said boxing is the most interesting/rich non-team physical activity I did, I think, since it's something like poker and exploiting behavior on top of striking.

I think actually for me personally the fact that martial arts are about hurting the opponent is the key, like with team sports I keep thinking "what if I just wreck the other guys and THEN score the goal"

>>261794
>Dancing has use irl
I agree. I like pair/latin dancing too. I forgot about it when I posted.
>Lifting has use via halo effect
True but I don't think lifting is a social hobby even though the gains you get from is helps you later. I never made a single friend at the gym. I think it would only work if you are someone so extroverted that would make a friend anywhere.

Hurt my cornea two weeks ago at muay thai and it's not fully healed yet. Thinking of just sticking to grappling from now on.

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>>261898
Muay tai is stupid because it literally deadens nerves as part of training. Do karate. Worst you get is dead skin

>>261902
Unfortunately karate only has overweight dorks, grandpas and kids where I live. Can't get motivated with shitty sparring partners.

>>244568
And now 15 years later, the world has moved on.

>>261817
lol no I learned more non-fighting stuff in my first 1.5 hours of judo than after months of aikido.

>>261897
If I wasn't a retarded grug I'd play team sports I bet it's a great way to get social/team skills. I tried rugby for a few workouts but everyone seemed to be trying way too hard, MA/powerlifting dudes are usually the most chill ones.

Also what's interesting is unless you're wrestling, martial arts tend to hold back in sparring. Football or rugby guys are taught to go hard during practice, I wouldn't be surprised that a linebacker would tackle a MT guy 9/10 times in sparring. A boxer would just keep running away and a judoka would maybe lose once or twice due to sheer aggression from linebacker, then adjust. But out ON TEH STREETZ if you're an amateur linebacker you're probably gonna tackle people no problem.

>>261921
People always say that's the advantage in grappling because you can train at near 100% safely
But I've been around and yes you have some striking base people that get punchy from overdoing it
But literally every grappler I know is completely fucking broken

The body takes damage all the same

>>261931
You have to choose if you want to sacrifice your brain or your body.

I doubt it but has anyone ever tried Tai Ki Ken ? Especially paired with kyokushin karate ? If so, what do you think of it in terms of authenticity, efficiency etc ?
I'm hesitating between this (the two of them though obviously the dojo is mainly kyokushin) and a relatively softer kind of martial art, something like a good not-sloppified Silat or Bagua Zhang, not sure, the thing is I come from kickboxing (boxing before that) and I'm tired of the fitness culture and just how casual it usually seem so I want to try something maybe more traditionnal, codified etc.
But on one hand I want to keep the "realness" and the ability to be brutal that you can find in combat sport, on the other I also wish I could do forms like lata or even dancelike things, without it coming from nowhere obviously
I know that kyokushin karate is much less about kata than other forms but how much so ? What I fear is falling into a basically-kickboxing-but-in-gi, other forms of karate here are sometimes even worse due to the grip of competition and the sport aspect that karate has in France, and most of such other forms also often do baby-karate as well which is a damn near instant shit sign for me. I don't want to do it for self defence (never needed it in a lifetime of bad decisions)
The kyokushin-taikiken dojo, silat and bagua zhang are ideas that stuck out for me but I'm open to other arts if they exist there

>>262185
Goju-ryu, Shorin-ryu, Motobu-ryu, seidokan. Looks for schools that practice any of those.

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>>262185
>I'm open to other arts if they exist there
I would recommend shuai jiao. It's quite practical from a "realness" standpoint, and blends together judo-esque jacket throws while also allowing leg grabs and takedowns. Plenty of sparring in it. It's also got some neat things in it that you don't really see in other major grappling arts.

>I also wish I could do forms
There's lots of forms in shuai jiao, but they approach them the right way IMO. They look very kung fu-y at a glance, but they're specific supplemental exercises meant to develop certain attributes or movements (rather than choreographed sloppa that allegedly teaches you how to fight but doesn't).

For example
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/maiftztUZqM

>has in France
I assume you're from there? There is a shuai jiao scene in France. I don't know how big or active it is, but it's big enough to hold a French nationals tournament apparently. This stream is from 3 months ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbOJO41awZQ

>>260823
teppu

>>262634
God mma is so fucking boring.

Currently training Kyokushin Karate, but out of pure curiosity, which are other styles that can be compared equally as effective for real combat? Not necessarily on da streetz but a competition or hard sparring.

This place near me practices shotokan and isshin ryu from what I remember, I looked a Isshin-Ryu competition and it seemed boring ngl, but I've heard of UFC fighters which their base has been Okinawan Styles outside of Kyokushin.

Which are your experiences practicing these styles?

>>262918
Kudo gl finding it

>>262918
If you want okinawan you want any school that mentions shorin ryu.