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>>256641
>Threadly Question
What is your worst buyer's remorse from an airsoft product?

Buying exclusively realistic shell-ejecting guns is suffering

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>>256725
This Umarex lever gun has worked pretty well for me, though I'd never take it to a game, I have a revolver that uses shells, I might consider taking that to a game though, since it shoots pretty straight.

>>256641
That fucking F2000 is so sexy I need one they are impossible to find

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>>256733
Looks like DE are going to release a gbbr version in the near future.

>>256738
THAT WOULD BE SOO GOOD I WOULD DIE THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD NEWS

Any recommendations for an entry-level M4 solely for LARPslop? I barely play airsoft but I really wanted to kit out an M4 solely for the aesthetics.

I already have a higher-end AK for performance, so I'm not worried about having a "pea shooter" considering how extensive (and expensive) the aftermarket is for the M4 platform.

>>256765
Anything by Specna

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>>256644
Pic related, I got it then shortly after LCT announced their HK33, full steel and all that. The Classic Army shoots really well, but holy shit its got the worst plastic furniture I've ever seen, super creaky and flexible, it feels terrible in the hands. I replaced the furniture with LCT stuff so it's better now, but I may get rid and just get the new VFC gbb, can't really justify having an aeg and gbb of the same gun.

>>256765
AEG or GBBR? Specna or E&C for the former, VFC for the latter.

>>256768
VFC ARs aren't exactly entry level priced. That would be a Double Eagle N4

>>256766
>>256768
>$125 for the Specna Arms FLEX Gen.2 Series M4
this is perfect, thank you anons.

>>256765
>>256766
Do NOT listen to this anon.
For fuck sakes STOP recommending Specna to beginners. The motor is literally held in place by thin plastic tension tabs inside the grip. No solid retention plate. Just springy plastic pushing outward and hoping material fatigue never happens. That plastic is under constant stress, and it loses tension. And when it does, your motor height shifts. The entire drivetrain depends on consistent engagement of teeth. If it so much as shifts a single CM you get noise and eventually stripped gears.


If you are new, buy something mechanically sane with nicer metal externals for the same or cheaper. CYMA. E&C.

I will concede it may have made sense 6-7 years ago when it was the go to option for a gun that came with a MOSFET pre installed.

>>256770
Do you see the clear plastic shrink wrap tubing covering the wires in the stock in the final image of the product posting on evike? If you crumple it they can disconnect.
Not sure if that model has the aforementioned issue with cap on bottom of grip being held in by thin plastic tabs, But please FFS Do not buy from Specna.
The products they sell are not manufactured in house by them meaning QC is all over the place.

>>256769
True, but I heard they're compatible with real AR stuff, so perhaps they have more aftermarket parts.

>>256771
Yea buy a cyma where the mosfet kills itself after one day. Brainlet

>>256778
Mosfets are for pussies anyway, if you're not rawdogging your trigger contacts with a 14.8 lipo, can you really say that you're truly alive?

>>256778
See where the clear tubing where the mosfet connects to the rest of wiring? It is crimped on with shitty non shrink tubing intended to insulate wire from water, not a proper solder contact. It can and will fuck up.

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>>256778
Picrel

imagine namefagging in a thread that's so slow it lasts 3-4 months
Buying a specna as we speak

>>256782
>3-4 months
Last thread was alive for over a year, anon.

>>256783
Was made I July so about 8 months but yea i forgot it was that long

>>256486
honestly i could write multiple 2000 char posts about getting into airsoft and all the pitfalls but i think to sum up

1) if you're mainly interested in playing tag with BBs then yeah, best thing to do is to show up local fields in gym clothes and use a rental to figure out if you like the hobby. some fields and event runners are just ass so don't be discouraged if you don't like playing airsoft on the first field you try it on. it's worth driving an extra 30 minutes to get to an actually good game field.

if you are mainly interested in airsoft for the replica or gear autism, then i would not even bother with the gym clothes + rental stage. in such case, get a gun you really think seems cool and show up to the field with that. or just stay home. if you just enjoy plinking with a gas blowback rifle in your back yard then do that. i honestly think the actual game part of airsoft is often its weak link. for me, i like the guns and dressup but actually playing airsoft is a crapshoot. 50% of the time it's mid, 25% of the time it's bad and 25% of the time it's great.

2) don't waste your money on crap. this is a very wide topic that you frankly can't get good information on online. honestly generally i would asking here before making any major purchase. or if you have big boy money to spend on this hobby then you can just throw money at random shit and see how it goes

>>256771
i've never heard of this before except in an earlier airsoft thread here. don't specnas come in a variety of pistol grips and OEMs too? the ONE series is E&C rebrands afaik. i mean even if this applied to every specna pistol grip somehow, you could still probably swap it out if it becomes an issue, because it is an M4 platform after all.

i don't doubt the ones you had your hands on sucked but it would be strange to me if it applied to the brand in general. like funny enough the worst built gun i have (F2000) and the best built gun i have (M14 EBR) are both made by G&G

>>256765
>>256768
i was looking for M27s earlier and i read the externals for AR style guns goes VFC > E&C > Specna (dytac). however E&C and especially VFC would need tinkering to not be barebones as fuck

that said i've never had my hands on any of these guns so i wouldn't really know

>>256791
>if you are mainly interested in airsoft for the replica or gear autism, then i would not even bother with the gym clothes + rental stage. in such case, get a gun you really think seems cool and show up to the field with that.
I did exactly this. As soon as I discovered airsoft I knew it was the hobby for me and what gun and kit I wanted so I bought it all before my frist game. Still own the gun 14 years later.
The only difference now from when I started is that everyone runs 11.1v mosfets or HPA at the field. I started to feel disadvantaged running my 7.2v batteries.

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>>256799
Ive never noticed a problem with this (HPA and mosfet vs stock), it might be because i got lucky and got a midas touched gun from CYMA (It was one of their cheapass plastic underfolder 47s) that shot straight to a good 40-60m somehow, and 50/50 odds at 70m (picrel 45m), and now i still get okay shots from their full metal aks74u

>>256771
agree, beginners should get 1. something they think looks cool af 2. that is full metal (if budget allows) 3. that is cheap to repair, however the guy specifically did say that he just wants something for the looks, so, whatever he wants really, even a springer would probably be fine))))

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>>256644
That would have to either be the GHK AKM or WE Thompson. I despise GHK since buying that piece of dogshit. Everyone at the time was glazing that gay company and I got baited in. This trash only somewhat worked when I was testing it at home. Whenever I took it outside it instantly kept shitting itself. I am still omega mad because it was really expensive compared to everything else I could've gotten then.
With the WE I knew what I was getting myself into but it was still worse than I anticipated. Gun kept literally eating itself from the inside and all five mags I had for the gun started leaking for no reason at all. Performance was subpar also but I could've dealt with that if it wasn't for the gun actively killing itself and the mags.

>>256644
TM MWS. Not that it was bad per se but I was disappointed when I opened the box. I had many airsoft replicas before it so I was expecting something special but when I opened the box and first saw it I thought I got sent a Specna Arms or something. It had so few steel externals and felt cheap. Glad I had a lot of external parts for it so I never fielded it stock but ended up selling it 2 years later. It never lived up to the hype for me. I really hated the hop on it. It was like one click was underhopping and the next one was way overhopping. I had to try a lot of different hop nubs and rubbers to make it shoot well.
Not the worst replica I had by far but still it pops to my head whenever somebody asks what my biggest buyer's remorse was

>>256802
What did you replace it with?

>>256807
VFC V3 M16

>>256733
the cybergun F2000s (both OEMs) are quite available here in europe at least. getting the handguard is an issue though. i think they're losing 150€ if you even find one. the M-trigger guys make a 3d printed one at least though

i'd never put an angled foregrip on mine though. they feel super uncomfortable except for c-clamping, which you can't do with the f2000 since it's a chonker

>>256819
>i think they're losing 150€ if you even find one
idk why i wrote losing there lol nvm that

is jb weld good enough for repairing a snapped pistol hammer or should I drill a pin in there as well?

>>256883
Probably best just to buy a replacement. But if no other option, JB weld and pin it, though I can't imagine it will survive that long.

Why would anyone get an aeg when gbb exist

>>257188
Please shut the fuck up.
t. GBB user.

>>257188
money, practicality? Most people who play airsoft don't even know how to handle a real gun or care enough about guns in general which is baffling to me. Like what draws people to this hobby if they don't like guns?
t. euroid

>>257188
Why are gbb users generally so insufferable? Seemingly also have more trannies than speedsofters do

>>257194
No, I don't think I will.
>>257212
You didn't answer the question.
>>257210
They cost about the same. Mags are just a bit more expensive but that's it.

>>257212
HRC is the only place with troons? Think that's a westoid problem

>>257214
you can get a decent AEG for 250 jewros and mags cost 10 jewros. A decent GBBR is at least 500 and mags are 50 a pop

why do people cry about headshots? And why is it always britbongs despite having low joule rules

>>257220
it makes ouchy :(

>>257188
I just don't-
>Chucks a leaky magazine back into the bag
-know why more people-
>Chucks another leaky magazine back into the bag
-aren't buying gbbs.
>Chucks another leaky magazine back into the bag

>>257239
you're the boomer fudd of the airsoft world

>>257239
kek, though aegs are wonky as fuck and prone to eating themselves, so glass houses and all that.

>>257188
Price, I can get an entry-level AEG for $200-300CAD and the bare essentials to game it properly for another $50-100CAD while no matter what, getting into GBBRs would take something like $700-800CAD minimum and be a bit more finicky even if they're ultimately cooler and more fun guns to handle

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>>257188
I like NBB better. They are quiet, use barely any gas, reliable because they are mechanically simple and usually cheaper. Had this ancient Y&P M9 NBB for over a decade and it refuses to die.

>>257417
NBBs are definitely niche (especially in NA, where the selection of ones that aren't abysmal dogshit designed to only handle like 500 rounds is extremely slim) but I personally like the Mk23-style ones that let you cock the hammer for a more precise single shot, kinda like a mag-fed DA/SA revolver (also obviously lets you slap a foam-stuffed can on the end for peak silence)

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>>257423
The MK23 NBBs are beast! I've had the Y&P, TM and Novritsch MK23s and they all had insane range, accuracy and stealth. I kinda want to get another one, however the M9's size is just perfect for me. The MK23 is a bit much for my thin smol hands.

>>257426
you could always try a carbine kit for better secret snipping

>>257417
>>257423
>>257426
>>257428
where's the fun in that? It's HPA without the hose

>>257432
it's very quiet, entirely self-contained and in the case of upgradeable DA/SA models like the Mk23 is capable of some damn fine precision at range with minimal investment
I like GBBs but recognize the appeal of NBBs from a gameplay perspective

>was going to get an MK46 to run as an LMG before realize i just don't have what it takes to maintain and run a proper machinegun
>another player also convinces it's just a bad fit for my chaotic playstyle (push early to a good vantage point then snipe the enemy at range, play around objectives and engage in close combat, do wide flanking runs)
>usually have to play pick 2 out of 3 depending on which class of gun i run
>eureka moment
>rules would allow running a lighter, select-fire support gun and stick a bipod and an LPVO on top of it, and stick to rifle energy limits
>despite lower muzzle energy, could basically do DMR things with it thanks to full auto bursts at range
>could CQC with it because no MED on semi
this is just my powergaming instinct at heart but good lord now i want to do this so badly. could run a golden eagle MCR or an M27 for it. funny enough it would match the M27's use case in real life so it doesn't feel too much like cheating to do

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I know you guys will probably hate it kek, but I'm pretty satisfied. This isn't for me but for a friend of mine that wanted it. If I didn't already have the WE Apache I'd probably print one for myself.

>>257452
Oh Yea ignore the end being tan I had to reprint it because It was baffle striking the threads to pieces before I swapped to a 250mm barrel. And I ran out of paint

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>>257453
I might have to edit the STL file or just cut an indent so you could lock the charging handle when swapping mags i think that would be pretty cool

>>257451
get an M27. That other thing looks like faggot shit

>>257452
>>257454
get an actual GBBR, dipshit

>>257457
I do, multiple in fact.

>>257460
proofs?

>>257456
you know i had trouble verbalizing my sentiment why i'd prefer the m27 but i think you nailed it

the only reason i was looking at the MCR was because it replicates a real belt fed even if gay looking. i think the krytec trident seems like the better mcr-lookalike gun but afaik it's an OC donut steel and not a real replica

>>257426
what holster are you running? only thing I can find for these are 3d printed ones that go on or into the trigger guard.

>>257432
>It's HPA without the hose
you just described the perfect gun bro

>>257465
tried HPA before and didn't like it. It's the same as clicking a mouse. No fun at all

>>257451
>no MED on semi
That sounds very AIDS.

>>257464
That's the Safariland STX Tactical holster, it stays on the same part of your thigh and is easy to draw from. I kinda regret pawning that MK23 setup off because the holster is discontinued now and fetches 300 to 400 dollars on eBay.
>>257428
I played against this one dude who had a MK23 carbine paired to a thermal scope and that thing was literally predator vision at night. Just a nifty lil pistol carbine.

>>257469
ah, that sucks. I will still have to use 3d printed ones or universal fabric ones like one I have now.

>>257468
i didnt explain it right, the way it works is
>no MED up to 1.7J at semi
>10m MED at 2.0J
>15m MED at 2.25J etc.
>always 10m MED for any kind of full auto (basically only relevant for LMG role)

basically setting a support role gun to fire at 1.7J would mean i could engage at 0 MED with semi and also use full auto at longer ranges. that's kind of the whole "powergaming" thing i was trying to get at

>>257471
>no MED up to 1.7J at semi
That is still extremely AIDS because that's way more power than necessary at short ranges and it can actually do some damage if a retard does retarded things.

>>257473
i would agree. i ran a different gun at like 1.65J to plink at people at long range, and it felt pretty gnarly to actually use it at like 5-10m range even if it was technically allowed. i ended up using a sidearm with it when i knew i'd be engaging at close range. it's not too bad if you have time to line up a center mass shot, but my field is bad about having tons of blind corners for people to play peekaboo with as you push up, so the options are to either risk hitting someone in the face/optic or get fragged.

i'd mainly want the gun to have no MED rule so i could use my own judgment whether i want to use my sidearm or not. if i'm just running around and taking aimed shots at people's gear and then immediately switching over to shoot at other players that are farther away, i'd like to be using just 1 gun for it

>retard does retarded things.

the last time i played, i forgot something and went back to spawn to get it, and on my way back i had
>walking with both arms up, waving
>gun slung on my back
>wearing my team's armbands
and STILL one of my teammates 3 tapped me in the fucking forehead from like 10m away. god damn lol. kinda my fault for coming from the enemy's direction but that doesn't really explain the 3x headshot part

>>257473
>That is still extremely AIDS
Having strict MED rules is actually fucking AIDS. In my country, pretty much every field has some variation of a 0.1J*meter=MED rule (so 1.7J is 17m MED) for everything over 1 Joule and some fields have it for EVERYTHING. It is pure cancer because it severely restricts your ability to play aggressively, makes a pistol practically mandatory, and always leads to arguments because it's also impossible to enforce.

>Plan to storm a building.
>Draw pistol, because I know the enemy will be in your face, putting myself at a disadvantage.
>Surprise the enemy and they shoot me with 2J up close, because they didn't have time to draw a Pistol.
>Can't really blame them for that, but if I had my rifle up, I could've probably aimed faster.
Or in Woodland during summer, when the vegetation is so dense you're already within MED range by the time you see the enemy, but you still need the extra power and capacity of your rifle to cut through the vegetation. Nobody draws a pistol there, and you're basically forced to break the rules. Sometimes everyone is cool with it, and sometimes some pussy makes a scene. I hate it.

A 1.7J no MED limit is a good compromise, because it's still good enough for most outdoor ranges, so you give people an incentive to not max out the field limit, and doesn't hurt that much up close. I took a 2J hit on the nose last game, and while it did draw blood, it only hurt for about a minute and it's already fully healed. I would drop the 10m MED at 2.0J and just leave 15m MED from 1.7J to 2.25J, to make the incentive even bigger.

>retard does retarded things
They're still going to be retards no matter what. Stricter rules don't stop people who already don't care about them. But looser rules give people who aren't retards some room to breathe and play. With our current rules, I'm basically forced to break them at times, so I just "house rule" myself to play at around 1.4J-1.6J instead of maxing out the 2J field limit.

>>257476
>>257487
I'm surprised wherever you are you don't have rules similar to what we have here. No MED is for everything up to 1.14J, 1.8J is 10 m I believe, 2.32J is 15 m, 2.81J is 20 m and finally anything over 3.93J is 30 m.
Now it's not ideal because airniggers despite playing a sport dependent on judging distance can't tell how far away their target is so you will absolutely still get lit up by something way too powerful at too close of a range but I think it's better than having no MED for 1.8J or some retarded complicated formula. Also I ran 1.14J even on outdoor fields without any J restrictions and I still did well so I think that's a much better solution than whacking someone with 1.8J from up close, even if theoretically you're at a disadvantage at range.

>>257490
>Also I ran 1.14J even on outdoor fields without any J restrictions and I still did well so I think that's a much better solution than whacking someone with 1.8J from up close, even if theoretically you're at a disadvantage at range.
i think higher joule ranges are kinda just needed to make certain aspects of airsoft work well. desu i barely notice a difference when my gun is shooting at 1.3J or 1.7J when skirmishing with a rifle, but... trying to engage in something like a DMR larp when my time-to-target is fucklong due to sheer lack of muzzle energy just sucks. using a big fuckoff gun to chuck heavy BBs at a perfect, slight parabolic arc at 2J< just feels good, and it validates whole DMR thing for me.

i do still like the typical 1.7J limit here, because people have less time to dodge away from shots and it makes things feels more real. i'd rather get hit by a BB that i didn't see coming than see a bunch of them fly towards me in slow motion, i guess.

>>257491
>time-to-target is fucklong due to sheer lack of muzzle energy just sucks
I never had this issue because I always used to run up to people's faces cause I treated this sport as a pretext to run around and get some movement in. In fact I got called a cheater by fat camping blobs on several occasions because I ran so fast to the center of the field they couldn't fathom you could get there fast enough without having like a 20 m head start.
Also you're overblowing the issue. Unless you're shooting something like a 0.5 BB out of a 1J gun then the differences in speed aren't that noticeable really. BBs in general just travel real slow and things like brush stopping them isn't helping in the authenticity department either.

>>257492
>I never had this issue because I always used to run up to people's faces cause I treated this sport as a pretext to run around and get some movement in.
thats my use case for this hobby about most of the time. i get the most kills and do the most objectives when i just focus on running the field with whatever garbage stock gun i brought that day. however sometimes i want to be a secret snipper with my beautiful tuned DMR, and i probably wouldn't bother with that part if said DMR didn't shoot at 2.2J. i've tried an LPVO on a regular rifle shooting at 1.5J or something and it felt silly as shit due to the long time-to-target, and i ended up just wasting tons of .43g ammo not hitting anything. a skill issue perhaps

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>>257461
if you read my post i said i have a WE apache dummy.

The only non gbb i have is that vss, and a SVD not pictured that's not assemembled yet.

The two rifs on the left are MWS's one from G&P, and the other is a DE N4, the G36 is the army armament begadi one, everything else is pistols in kits

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>After being asked to watch my niece on game day

i was thinking of what gun to bring to a 1 day milsim, and idk what it is but i kinda hate most of my guns. my APC 556 is supposed to be my go-to gun but i just don't really like holding it. it has had some dumb issues that are presumably fixable but that probably can't be all of it. kinda the same with my other guns.

really the only gun i really like right now is my EBR, which is the only gun i bought out of love (but i can't bring that one due to lack of DMR slots). sad. it might just be that i only love "big bricks of aluminum that are screwed together" type guns

>>257576
just use the EBR as a regular rifle

>>257577
i've done it before but ultimately i think it just messes with my autism too much to field it as a regular rifle. its like using an MP5 as a DMR. also the 22 inch barrel and front heft are rather impractical for typical rifleman duties

anyway i'm a bit curious about other people's experiences regards to which of their guns seem to stand the test of time which end up collecting dust. i've loved the EBR before i even bought it, but it also happens to be the most solidly and most "intelligently" built gun i have, so it could be either or. something about a bad fire selector placement or mag retention system just fucks my shit up and the EBR has none of that.

>>257580
My vss is definitely my "stand the test of time gun" always works, shoots lasers, super quiet, and it's just a cool gun to play with.

>>257452
Your least offensive monstrosity yet. I almost like it.

Had a grown ass 40 year old man get butthurt yesterday. I got a flanking position behind his piece of cover and shot him square in the back. He didn't flinch, so I kept shooting him 1-2 shots a second and he just didn't move. Finally a shot hit the back of his neck and he turned around and sprayed full auto (field was locked semi only) in my direction without even managing to hit me. Game ended right that second so I got to go up to him and ask what his problem was. He sheepishly tried to blame people from the front shooting full auto at him (they probably weren't probably speedsofters with super light triggers) and that for some reason meant it was ok to ignore getting hit and the spray full auto at me.

>>257697
crazy

i guess u can hope that he wasn't malicious and instead was just retarded and had some tunnel vision going. i know a dude who will not respond to anything if he's "focused" on doing something, and then his brain buffers and he realizes it all at once and panics lol

>>257698
(I am also an Old) I think older people who aren't regularly active can get overwhelmed by the speed and aggressiveness of younger regular players. He seemed majorly frustrated and flustered. I was going to mention to a ref afterwards, but I noticed the guy packed up after that game and left so the problem solved itself.
Just crazy how shitty people can be of all ages.

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>>257697
>probably speedsofters with super light triggers
I got called out for supposedly using full auto in my HPGay M16 several times because I nigger rigged a hair trigger so sensitive it tripped if you slapped a magazine in too hard. I really liked that gun.

>>257700
You should be executed

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>>257744
Seethe poorfag

>>257744
airsofters believe that site rules are video game mechanics you are supposed to subvert as much as you can possibly get away with. the refs are like bosses you have to avoid like youre playing metal gear solid

>>257747
>field has semi auto rule for cqb
>gun is still used in semi only
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT HAVE A BETTER GUN THAN ME YOURE BENDING THE RUUUUUUUUUUUULESSSSSSSSSS
Are you okay anon?

>>257748
>dresses in sheets of plywood
>doesn't feel any of your shots so dont have to call them
>knives you with my permanent marker to prove i hit you
ahh sorry bro maybe next time u wont dress so badly

>>257749
What are you even babbling about retarded zoomer

>>257748
>semi is as fast as full auto because the trigger is fucked
nigger kys

>>257757
Cope and seethe milfatty

>>257757
Way to out yourself you're a shitter who can't pull the trigger fast enough

>>257760
His brap gun probably can't do more than a couple shots at a time due to cooldown

>>257762
I want to come back to airshit and am considering a GBB but they still have too many strings attached. I had an HPGay gun so I know the system and I know it just werks™. On the other hand I had a few GBBs before and they were mostly just issues. I'm still waiting for some company to make a non-shit Daytona M16.

>>257763
You could just get a hpa adapter for a gbbr. The airtac shotshell ones are about as discrete as it gets.

Or pay someone like frog Engineering to convert your gbbr to use hpa https://youtu.be/J3r2FFnKV6Y?is=oOlS-9YEJCaJ1Q7G

>>257765
>airtac shotshell
I did run into those when looking around at what options there are now but they rub me the wrong way due to using shells. I know it's a robust system that works but it would just feel wrong to be swapping out shells instead of magazines, unless I was larping with a Fallout Wattz laser rifle or something like that.
>frog Engineering
To my knowledge he only makes cagslop PMAG styled magazines and I want STANAG magazines, even if they were plastic. Also I've heard those mags are really flimsy and easy to damage so that doesn't inspire confidence either.

>>257766
Then there's a Tippmann or a E&L T191.
Don't think tippmanns are in production anymore and the other is a meme.

It's honestly surprising to me there are no gbb manufacturers that make ootb hpa gbbrs. Considering how many people I see that use them you'd think there was a market for it.

>>257767
>E&L T191
And it's a massive piece of shit because it's just a rechambered chink police training gun. I was hoping it would be decent so it would hopefully open the door for other manufacturers to step in but that didn't happen.
>It's honestly surprising to me there are no gbb manufacturers that make ootb hpa gbbrs
I'm surprised too but I think you're overestimating how many people use adapters or Gaytonas. Asian manufacturers mostly care about their home turf and GBBs mostly work fine there because it's generally warm there. Also airniggers are divided into three camps which are AEGs, GBBs and HPGays and each of these tribes is extremely autistic why their chosen propulsion system is best. I imagine no company wants to take the risk to try and appeal to any of these autists because it's just not worth it.

>>257768
I'm just going by what I see locally, and with gbbrs a lot of people are using adapters. Especially in the winter months. And considering how big airtacs business is now in just a few years must mean a decent amount of people get them

>>257769
I just remembered airtac is supposedly working on an HPA lower for the MWS. I saw it on the HRC trannycord but there hasn't been any new info for a while. Also it's hideous because it isn't a generic AR lower but some IWA/Shot Show tier hype beast bullshit with lightening cuts everywhere which is a shame.

thats it im gonna start talking about airsoft on other boards to get some new blood here

>HPAfags talking about their retarded shit again

>>257775
maybe if you werent so busy huffing propane farts you'd also post more

>>257770
oh yea i saw that, i doubt the actual production one will look like that. Everything they do now is injection molded so it will probably look more plasticy. Something like that Tapp GHK lower

>>257778
>Everything they do now is injection molded
The one dickcord looked like it was milled but maybe that was just a prototype. Still it looked like those gay l33t operturdator civvie ARs and I'm definitely not a fan.
>Tapp GHK lower
I didn't know about this so I looked it up and it looks absolutely vile.

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>>257775
>how DARE people talk about the topic of a thread
I don't know what goes through your faggot minds

>>257779
>I didn't know about this so I looked it up and it looks absolutely vile.
yea and knowing tapp qc it doesn't last more than a week.

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>>257782
It's been years now at this point i'm amazed you still get so assblasted about it every time.

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>>257454
What in the Metal Gear Solid V is this. That being said fuck i want one, man you know what my dick hard. Is tis a kit, what is it made of

>>257879
It's 3d printed. Just search firewad on cults3d and it should show up.

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>put a suppressor and longer inner barrel on my mp5k and went outdoors airsoft with it
>sounds like a really cool sounding tokyo marui p90 that i heard one time 20 years ago
i thought i'd never hear this sound again

flump flump flump flump flump flump

Anybody else commonly see a really bizarre thumb-over-bore derived stance where the player's handguard holding arm has the elbow bent at like a 90 degree elbow with the point of the elbow pointed up at the sky?
It's like people trying to TOB on a gun way too short to properly TOB. TOB in airsoft is already semi-silly, but at least you can practice an be good at snapping to multiple targets, but this windmill armed TOB I keep seeing is like tactical cargo culting after a few generations of cultural inbreeding.

>>258125
Not really. What I keep noticing is that faggot shit middle finger pushing the trigger thing

people c-clamping vaguely annoyed me at first (since it's pointless for airshit) but now i figure its just people training for their real gun and real life 1v9 home defense situations. and i do dumb larpy shit too so its all good

>>258360
What I'm talking about isn't real C-clamp TOB. It's like "n-clamp" grip where they just keep rotating their hands more and more, causing the elbows to bend on little short guns. It's like final form chicken wing as the bent elbow is up in the air. I'll try and grab pics of it. It's very bizarre; it's neither a proper imitation of real tactical gripping nor is it a stance that looks specifically useful for airsoft. It's really weird.

>>258379
yes i got that part of your post that they were butchering the c-clamp though i do not have a good idea of what it looks like, aside from ridiculous

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>>258360
>but now i figure its just people training for their real gun and real life 1v9 home defense situations
Which they'll never end up in anyway. Or if they do they'll get whacked anyway. Also C-clamp looks incredibly gay.
>>258379
Both are are gay because always, without fail the "people" who do these are retarded broperators whose entire personality is being an airshit broperator. Yes, I larp as stupid shit too but I don't make it my entire personality.

>>258470
Hey man, somebody has to buy all those XXXL combat tops.

Also funny at my most regular field there some guys fully kitted out in AOR1 gear for the full SEAL look. I've heard them bitch about dirt or grime getting on their fancy expensive pouches and clothes. They never go in the actual woods or even go prone. Always straight down the center by way of designated paths, because otherwise their previous LARP gear would get wear on it. I can not imagine having the mindset of wearing gear I'm not willing to get dirty.

>>258478
I got accused several times of cheating by starting further in a field and getting to the center too fast.
In my full 80s US GI larp gear.
Obeasts just can't fathom moving faster than a glacier.

>>258480
Yeah. Compared to my peak I'm old and out of shape, but I regularly manage to outflank the other team through some paths in the woods. I have everything camo'd up and it's all a collection of random stuff (boonie with scrim, gun painted and scrimmed, painted mask with a little sniper veil over the goggles, etc). I often go prone and it's amazing how people will walk right past me. The hardest part of most games is that once I'm behind the enemy team and shooting them in the back, about half the time they ignore it as friendly fire (which should still kill them but they figure no friendly will call them out) so I have to shoot the same person a bunch of times to get them to react. Which then makes them salty about getting overshot even though they tried shrugging off hits.

Whatever faggot starting allowing "ballistic shields" should fucking hang. Ruins CQB especially when the person using it will pretend not to be getting shot in the feet and hands.
I swear faggot zoomers literally only know about these from Rainbow Six Siege.

>>258488
>about half the time they ignore it as friendly fire
I've never had this issue but plenty of times people straight up wincing or almost shouting trying to hold in the pain. This is why I'm apprehensive about buying a low capacity GBBR but I feel like I want to try one again. Maybe fourth time the charm?
>>258490
I've been running into this trash since well around 2015 and ironically it was mostly old, fat blobs pretending they're not getting hit in elbows, toes or top of their heads.

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>>258491
I'm starting think there should a bare minimum to play. You gotta do a mile in 10 minutes. That's a hella low bar but like 1/3 of players wouldn't cut it I think.

GBBR is cool. I'm just a AEGlet because it's easy.

Painted some UCP pouches. I totally could have dyed them but I was just lazy. They'll be a tiny bit stiff but still totally usable.

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Should I pursue designing this? Idea came to me as a kind of ghetto Surefire VFG but you can put your own pushbutton light into it.

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>>256641
Going for a long shot here, but idk where else to ask since im a newbie in the whole airsoft scene.

I'm thinking of getting the Tokyo Marui Samurai Edge, since i'm a big RE fan and it just looks sooooo cool, but i'm not sure if it comes in this case that i've seen like picrel, i've seen several different videos reviewing the piece, some featuring the case, some not. and no vendors online seem to mention a gun case for it...

Am i being special or smth..? (Pls help ;-;)

>>258563
what's the point?
wanna save 5 bucks and waste your time?

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>>258577
>Am i being special
Yes, you are. Write whoever is selling this if they include the case or not.

i sometimes browse reddit hoping to read airsoft related news but instead it's 95% people posting "hey look at this thing i bought". not even a unique build or a review. just a picture of a gun they took out of its box. its seriously the most uninteresting, asinine banal shit and its like the only thing you see there

>>258679
Well that's the problem with reddit is that it sucks for actual conversation cause it doesn't get updoots, and your post disappears after some hours from the frontpage so noone sees it, and it leads to the same questions being asked over and over again. Discord has the same issue but even faster.
We need actual forums back.

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>like playing at local field
>however theres so much fucking cover that you can't play any guns that rely on range at all
>DMRs are an active hazard to use because of how hard it is to use MED
>there's been 1 area with good sightlines, which has made DMRs sorta playable
>find out they're building a big fuck off building in that spot and adding even MORE cover
i'm already getting massive bruises and bleeding from people firing their overpowered guns into my fucking forehead and shit because "haha oops u came out of nowhere bro"

>>258686
holy based. Fuck DMRs and sniperfags

>>258687
the field still has like a 30% sniper/DMR quotient regardless of how shit it is to play with one there. they also ban the "best" sniper spots for some reason in half the rounds (decided arbitrarily). so DMR players play at the VERY edge of their MED 10m range with guns that shoot over 2J. last time i got hit on my waist through my hoodie and got a bloody bruise the size of a golfball

it's seriously starting to be retarded but i figure there's no point in complaining until some kid gets a BB stuck in their cheek or something

>>258686
that's why I bought a helmet, got tired of getting domed

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I've been out of the loop and want to get back into airshit. Are these still the best face protection that isn't a gay scooter helmet or did something better appear? I remember trying a small wire mesh under a balaclava but that was absolutely awful to use in the summer.

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>>258577
Some do, some don't, your pic/pic rel is of some Wesker edition which comes in a big case. The standard ones come in a carboard/polystyrene box.

>>258723
NB-tactical masks are very low profile

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>>258723
i think those are still good preferably with a double strap. i don't like them myself because of how heavily the mesh presses against my mouth and nose due to the soft cheeks. plus they look dumb

i also restarted the hobby again recently and i found the main developments worth talking about are stuff like

- the cygnus armory ones that have like a small piece of mesh integrated to a balaclava. there are different brands that make these. i do not own one but i'd hesitate to wear one myself because of the soft, malleable nature of it, and the limited surface area.

- the NB tactical ones which cost like 70€ (90€ with shipping) to put together but are probably the best overall. it's a mesh piece that goes under a tight, thin balaclava. it's very simple but effective, doesn't fog and involves no straps or other shit like that. they're great and look much better than all other facepro but hopefully someone in china undercuts them soon, because 50€ for a tiny mesh piece is ridiculous

there are different kinds but the main ones i'd recommend are the prime (protects basically your whole face, except some parts of your jaw if your face is big) and venom (if you don't care about your nose, want the least amount of fogging and the lowest profile). i have both and i'd prefer to use the prime for the nose protection

>>258727
also one more note: you basically can't wear the balaclava over your nose unless you go for a fortis or a prime. or at least i can't. the balaclava is super tight (and needs to be, to hold the mesh piece) so it's very uncomfortable to put on your nose without the added nose protection piece. that's why i ended up getting the prime too. it also distributes the balaclava's pressure more evenly and doesn't squish my face as much (i do have a big ass head though, not fat just a big guy)

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>>258727
The chinese are really slacking. I bought steel mouth 10 years ago before they went out of production and nobody has made anything as simple and cheap since.

>>258726
>>258727
>NB-tactical
How badly do these make goggles fog up? I'm only considering goggles and I'm looking to buy Bolle's X800. I still have ESS NVGs but I only have the tinted visor and for some retarded reason it seems like ESS doesn't even make clear replacement visors for these.

>>258743
>How badly do these make goggles fog up?
very little in my limited experience. less than other mesh masks i think. the balaclava is very thin and breathable.

>Bolle's X800
desu i don't know if it's really worth spending extra on goggles, at least if it's fogging you're concerned about. i just use your typical 25€ dual pane goggles and apply anti-fog if i'm having issues with fogging. i consider them a disposable item basically

>>258744
>desu i don't know if it's really worth spending extra on goggles
Like I said I used to use my NVGs and out of the couple other options I used those were the best in terms of visibility and being resistant to fogging. Problem is the visor got fucked up and apparently there are no new clear visors for them anymore so I'm looking at other options and a friend of mine used to have X800s which seemed to work for him fine too. I'm just trying to work with what I know is good.

>>258743
I use a antifog system with my Bollé goggles. It's really the only thing for me that eliminated fogging. I got the Novritsch one, but there's clones of it now on AliExpress that are cheaper.

>>258723
best variant of this style available, still have it and use it sometimes even if I'm mostly using an Aliexpress rip off of Cygnus balaclava

kinda have to buy a drum mag to make my m27 more field legal (it already really is but you know how it is) but i'm worried it's going to be another fucking headache with misfeeds and maintenance and stuff

was gonna get an angel customs firestorm. i read online that it's good but i also read that some other people hated it. does anyone here know whether it's decent enough (like just a big hicap) and whether the criticism is a symptom of airsofters being retarded

>>258686
>like playing at local field
>however theres so much fucking cover that you can't play any guns that rely on range at all
Hate that shit. Let people breathe a bit.

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g&p m4

i have broken and thrown away like 4 airsoft rifles
because i take them apart to upgrade them and i can never get them back together again.

>>259027
give me that stock NOW

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>>259062
you can have it

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>>259027
>m4
>folding stock

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Low effort repaint of a CYMA M870 that was all black. Haven't had the chance to actually try it yet though.

Are the Specnas with the HAL unit worth a shit?

Do all ETUs depend on reflective tape to work, or just retrofit kits? Just put a GATE unit in and it needed all the little tape strips on the selector and "sear" (v3 gearbox). The boards are better than the copper tab contacts for longetivity but having the weakest link of your gearbox be the adhesive on a piece of paper seems suspect.

>>259215
all i've heard is people wishing they went for the gate aster instead. but desu, i read airsofters bitching about every single ETU, like anything that isn't a gate titan is completely unusable dogshit. it starts to sound like audiophile gold plated cables tier cargo cult shit at some point. imo as long as the ETU doesn't fry itself and has the features you need, you're good.

i've only ever really needed pre-cocking support and maybe active break controls for all my "builds" since i really only care about trigger response. and despite having tried a brushless + gate aster, HT + a perun etu++ and so on, the best trigger response i've ever gotten has been from a stock double eagle gun with a Falcon 3.0 ETU since its precocking tunes itself automatically. go figure.

>>259262
Yeah I wasn't super impressed with the titan, it's the unit I was talking about in >>259218

>>259218
Anything that uses optical sensors. I always just glue the stickers on. The perun hybrids use a magnet for the trigger, but optical for the selector. The classic army ECS, ares EFCS and g&p i5 all used magnets for cycle detection and the selector plate too, but they also all suck for other reasons. But really if you are only concerned with longevity then you're kinda wasting your money going for an in gearbox ETU like that. Personally, having been a tech at a shop and then at a field for several years, I can say that the risk of burning up your trigger contacts is greatly exaggerated, unless you're running like a 14.8 v battery or something. You're way more likely to break something else first and most of the time when your trigger does go dead you just need to clean the contacts.
>>259262
I think a lot of people are obsessed with the titans because they were the first ETU to really gain mainstream traction so its the name everyone knows, even if there are way better options out there. And too be fair gate stuff used to be better, but it seems like they've had a lot of qc problems the last few years. But like 90% of airsofters don't even understand what an ETU or a mosfet does so it's a losing battle trying to talk to them about it.

>>259135
Looks great in the photo, how did you do it?

>>259429
The receiver is just sprayed with parker seal color for toy guns. The wood parts I randomly sprayed with red brown and tan Mr. Color cans that I had lying around at home. Then I went over them with a generic brown permanent marker and tissues to make streaks and color modulation.

>>259135
wait that is not real wood but painted? Looks nice

Got a scuffed Echo1 MP5 with rails as part of a lot. Worth it to restore or just sell as a parts lot?

Gun doesn't seem to fire when battery is plugged in but I'm decent at electrical work and I don't expect any MOSFETs or weird circuitry so not a big deal.

>>259482
imo the best way to use old guns (if they're not collectors' pieces) is to restore them cheaply but respectably, and then donate or sell to someone young trying to start the hobby. it basically costs nothing to you but can make some kid infinitely happy. i'd be a bit wary about charging any significant amount of money for the gun, because you never know if the gun you restored may just shit itself in the next game due to some other part giving out, and now you've just unintentionally scammed a 12 year old and made him cry. not to mention older guns generally suck, even the old expensive ones compared to newer budget guns, just in terms of fitment and other stuff like that. so better to just not charge anything, or charge a pittance of 50€ with a guarantee you'll refund if it breaks in the next 3 months.

that said i come from a place where people are very concerned about keeping the hobby alive and helping out new players. especially since there are factors that work in the opposite direction, such as a very prominent airsoft shop that sells the worst fucking guns known to man to newbies and basically kills half of all new airsoft careers in the crib

anyway if you're selling a collectors' piece to a veteran player, like a gun you can't really get anymore, then you are probably best off just selling it as-is so people can put their own upgrades in. you could restore it with cheap parts to prove it works if it doesn't sell otherwise. make sure to mark it as a collector's piece with collector's prices so that newbies know not to hassle you

boy i sure love how i need 15 different 5.56 midcaps for 4 different guns because they are all extraordinarily picky about them

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g&g

>>259933
>AK5D
nice
>that fucking sight
did you put that on as rage bait?

I want an AK5 purely for nostalgic reasons but it doesn't really justify buying a heavy, expensive, and outdated AEG