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Rising Sun edition
>Banzuke:
http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/
>Fight Schedule & Results:
https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/
>Some sumo links and how to watch live:
https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d
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Dan has a new mawashi
https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2026/03/07/articles/20260307s00 005000154000c.html
It's blackity-black https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHwGnGrm_k
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>>257413
He got it from Jesse.
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>>257413
Most recent orange I can think of was Kaisei
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>>257431
They did.
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Its hilarious how there are zero Yoshinofuji fans crowing about his victory and its all just Dan haters who are happy about it. Yosh has had an amazing career so far and is on his way to his 12 consecutive KK following him maushita tsukedashi debut and he was college yokozuna before that, the guy is an Onosato level sumo monster, but nobody gives a shit, they only know him as that dude who can beat Dan. And his back and shoulders are wide enough to land a 747 on them
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>>257523
hate is an easier emotion than love
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Yasuhiro Omori, who got 2nd at the All-Japan and has Ms tsukedashi, signed with Endo's stable.
https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/202603180001030.html
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>>257955
stfu retard, I am rooting for hosh since he joined sanyaku but I never wanted him to be promoted to yoko; this basho is another proof NSK made a mistake promoting him. Asashoryu isn't even caring anymore as well, tweeting about aonishiki instead.
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The ups and downs seem pretty set in stone this time.
>Makuuchi
Midori and Fujiryogre out
Ryuden and Wakanosho in
>Juryo
Kotokuzan, Fujitensei, Shimazuumi, and Tsurugisho out
Tochitaikai, Hakuyozan, Okaryu, and Enho in
Elder stock secured.
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How is this allowed?
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I give this basho a 5/10.
>Hoshoryu wasn't competitive
>Onosato dead in a ditch somewhere
>Dan failed miserably at fulfilling his destiny
>Kotoshoho came close to a 2nd yusho
The only upsides are
>Yusho went to someone worthy though the ending was lame as fuck
>Zak double digits
>Atamin Sekiwake
But all in all this basho was barely any better than watching Kotoshoho go 13-2Y.
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>>257972
They could still screw him over and put Takakento in
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How long until they announce Teru's expulsion?
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>>257982
Probably. They tend to cushion people from rising or falling too fast these days. Gooneryama went 1-14 from M3 and landed at M13. What I wanna know is why the fuck people think Papa will stay at S1w. It makes more sense to give Waka a +0.5 boost than to give Papa a +1 boost. The only real awkwardness is going to come from that extra Ozeki slot messing up relative placement since everyone's getting a -0.5 rank shift from it.
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In 3 days we will know if Enho made it.
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>>258007
He'll probably be roundabout 13 east
Hopefully he still has some juice in him. He looked bad early on, but he at least showed some spirit in some lf the losses later. He's still in range of dropping to juryo though, and I could see him hanging up his belt if he does because he hasn't dropped division in 15 years.
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>>258036
He's been my main guy since I started watching a few years back and he had some really impressive wins that time. Stuck with him through some ups and downs but this time was rough.
I still hope he comes back and finally Yushos. When we first started watching, my bro picked Takakeisho and he ended up Yushoing that time around (and he moved on to maining Hoshoryu when Keisho retired and got another Yusho and a Yokozuna), and my friend picked Kirishima and he won the one after I think it was, now two. I'm still holding out hope for my guy to Yusho.
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Spiffy's estimated banzuke is out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iiw594pcCKo
Dan still way way up right near the top of if. H8ers stay seething
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>>258045
Bro even hosh instantly stood him up and didn't allow him to go low for the rest of the match.
Dan needs to train on different shit, he doesn't have the retard strength Ono does, he can't just bowl people over.
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Please, I need my slop... I'm dying here...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVjglaWQo8w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWvXtvxW0y4
Finally
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>Enho Ms1e
>gets injured again
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>>258083
I don't know but it's not hard to see why. The man is actually doing ok on average but he just can't get a yusho. Hakkaku probably thinks the only way to change that is to push him through harsh words. And I actually do agree with some of the criticism, Hoshoryu needs to learn patience, sometime it feels like he just shows up and does whatever and it just happens to work, for the most part.
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>>258083
Hakkaku said
>a Yokozuna who allows someone else to win the championship with 12 wins is unacceptable
The only 12 win yusho allowed by someone else during Hakkaku's time as yokozuna was the playoff loss against Chiyonofuji.
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>>258091
I wonder whether it has something to do with how transparent most things are these days. If your underling does better than you in a basho you can't beat the shit out of him as easily anymore or something like that? Aren't there a lot of social rules where upstaging a superior is a huge taboo in japan?
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>>258093
>Maybe don't promote guys to Yokozuna so early then
I’d push back on that idea. There is no such thing as promoting someone too early. There’s only correctly promoted or incorrectly.
Onosato won two in a row from ozeki and was correctly promoted.
Takakeisho went 12-3 JY + 13-2 Y and was correctly not promoted.
Hoshoryu went 13-2 JY + 12-3 Y and was INcorrectly promoted.
Time has nothing to do with it, they simply fucked up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYPXAzetl6w
>Kirishitma didn't have time to get into his formal cloak, hence why he rode the car in his underpants
>This is only the 3rd time someone has re-made Ozeki without using the 10 win Sekiwake rule
>Hakkaku was re-elected as Chairman today and ranted about Hosh like a cranky old fuck
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CHAIRMAN GET DOWN!!!
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>>258103
Chiyonofuji won that basho with a 15-0. Hakkaku’s point is that a healthy yokozuna should elevate the competition so that a 12-3 win a cup.
If there’s a healthy yokozuna and someone else bags a 12-3 yusho, that is pretty mediocre, let’s be honest, since it means you either gave up some cheap gold stars or you completely pooped your mawashi against the sanyaku. Neither is really what you’d expect from a Yokozuna.
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>>258108
Am I missing something?
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>>258099
>Chris (((Gould))) should meet me at my stable instead of talking shit on YouTube, Chairman Hakkaku told Nikkan Sports. Despite being a cranky old fuck, he could still snap the YouTuber in half like the twig he is, he added.
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>>258083
Everyone who is serious about sumo hates horse, even his own uncle
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>>258116
Donald Trump is the Donald Trump of sumo.
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>>258070
The REAL winner of March, who cares about a bunch of random mongs.
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>Never lost his ozeki rank once he earned it
>Consistently put up double digit wins in most basho's he's been in
>But he's bad because no basho zuna wins
The chairman and the horse schizo need to collide with a dohyo neck first, preferably at high speeds.
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Kirishitma's daughter is ugly and his wife is fat
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>>258145
More like this, desu.
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Hakkaku be like:
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>>258168
Yes. Personal appearance is part of the terms of their employment. The same reason they wear their hair in the old style.
They’re obviously allowed to wear other clothes like if they’re going to the gym or something, but when they’re out in public, they’re expected to dress appropriately.
Asashoryu would frequently get yelled at by the JSA because he preferred to wear a suit and his hair in a ponytail instead of the chonmage.
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>>258180
>Never present at the stable
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>>258161
Imagine if Aonishiki never quite captures lightning in a bottle again and becomes the only wrestler to ever win two yusho in a row but never become yokozuna.*
*Terunofuji did it but was promoted later. Tamanishiki, Futabayama, and Chiyonoyama, were all before the modern era (and later made it anyway.) Raiden is ancient history.
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>>258185
Thats why you gotta drink those calories anon
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So I thought I knew this but this basho makes me question what I know: during a match I thought touching the hair was a no-no but I saw several matches where a wrestler won by pushing against the neck/back of head area. Is it you just can't pull the hair and everything else is fair game?
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If Aonishiki won this basho on 12-3, would there have been people up his ass like Hoshoryu because he got promoted on a seemlingly weak result? Like imagine he went back to the 11-4 mines afterwards. I wonder what the narrative would've been like.
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>>258201
Back to back yusho is back to back yusho, it's like one of the few YDC rules that's actually written in stone instead of a vague benchmark.
I think people are just going to need to readjust their expectations of what a yokozuna is back to the "ozeki with a fancy entrance" it used to be.
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>>258203
I know he would've been promoted no matter what if he won both, I just was pondering what the narrative would've been like afterwards. There probably would've been expectations for him to start doing better than 11 and 12. Like you said, people get very serious about what a zuna should be doing in a tournament.
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>>258205
> Like you said, people get very serious about what a zuna should be doing in a tournament.
They should be. Calling someone a Yokozuna means you’re announcing that they are an all-time great WHILE they’re still active. No other sport does that. It’s a huge black eye when they get it wrong.
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Instead of back-to-back yusho with a vague and nebulous "yusho-equivalent" standard, they should make it simple and award yokozuna title to an ozeki who has won his 3rd or higher yusho. There would only be slightly fewer yokozuna (44 vs. 52 since yushos were created) and it would be a sign of longer term success.
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>>258209
Tochiazuma too. I think it's telling that a lot of ozeki were able to get that many individual yusho, but weren't able to get over the "back to back" hump. It's telling of that era of competition, because them and Konishiki would've been the only additions in the entire six basho era, with four cuts.
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>>258194
You can touch the hair, but you can't grab it, unless you're Takerufuji.
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Its official
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Estimated May banzuke, post your reaction
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Looks like Enho has officially made it back to the salaried ranks.
https://hochi.news/articles/20260324-OHT1T51334.html?page=1
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>>258242
Youre right, I messed up the query here >>258239
It didn't happen from 1960 until 2005, then it happened multiple times in the past couple years. shishi and tokihayate went from m17 to m18 though, and this past banzuke had no m18, so not sure how affects it
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>>258235
No one, 4 guys dropping out, Tochitaikai Hakuyozan and Okaryu are definitely in, and Enho's 5-2 is like 11-4 compared to Takakento's 4-3 which is like 9-6, so mathmatically Enho is 1 rank above him so Enho goes to Juryo and Takakento just needs 1 more winning record.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qI4bOn3uiA
Nabatames yusho interview from FutaGOYama channel
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>>258266
Nothing is ever confirmed, but it’s widely speculated that he wants to remain on as an elder. Hakuho would have been able to secure a share for him (the same way he did with Ishiura, thus keeping the valuable pipeline to Tottori Johoku open).
Now that Hakuho is gone, though, and the former Asahifuji is sitting on the Miyagino share until he’s 70, getting a share will be harder. I don’t know how many potential shares there are available in the Isegahama ichimon.
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>>258260
>KogaGOYama
lmao when your kwab stable's most noteworthy wrestler is goddamned Koga and your sekitori's name is a contraction of "Russian Koga"
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It seems like there is still a ton of back room wheeling and dealing when it comes to elder stock even though they say you’re not supposed to auction it off to the highest bidder anymore. I would imagine that if Enho was able to pay the blood price isegahama/miyagino would give it up. I think a big hang up for Enho will be the shadow of Hakuho and the jsa not wanting him to have a backdoor into the sumo world.
The other problem is that you can only establish a new beya if you were a zuna or ozeki or have a bunch of bashos at maegashira. So the only option for Enho would be resurrecting miyagino but they may consider it to be a dissolved stable since Hakuho quit. I do think the isegahama drama with Teru will help him though because it doesn’t seem like they want to boot him from the jsa so the most logical solution would be reestablishing miyagino to get hakuoho and the other guys out of there and make it seem like they are doing something to solve the problem.
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>>258277
The dream situation would be Miyagino taking over Isegahama temporarily while Teru learns how to be a better stablemaster from him. God that would be the funniest shit. Give Enho any other kabu who gives a fuck, Musashimaru will probably be dead soon there you go.
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>>258271
Enho isn't about to retire now that he got back to salaryman status, its his time to start banking away them big bucks again. He has been solid enough in upper makushita that he should be able to handle juryo well enough to stay in the division barring injury. He can just make money until age forces Asahifuji to give up the kabu.
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Oldies can't be stable bosses
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>>258288
Does Enho even want the Miyagino kabu? Inheriting the legacy of Hakuho is a big deal, especially for a former Hakuho deshi. Asahifuji can do it because he was a Yokozuna, but Enho? Nah, he'd much rather have a less-known kabu.
https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Kabu.aspx
Ctrl+F "196", receive list of cunts about to retire. Also they should make kabu of zuna shikona who broke 20 yusho. I guarantee you that the original owners of the kabu shikona would've bitch slapped Hakkaku for being a faggot.
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>>258290
Kogatame will likely land in the makushita teens somewhere on the next banzuke and then his knees will self destruct against if he makes Juryo, he just isn't built for 15 straight days of competition, in fact he isn't built for straight anything. And he has no knees, not even one
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The results of this last basho only strengthens and reinvigorates my admiration for and support of Dan. Anyone can be a Dan fan when he is rewriting the recordbook, but only the most devoted Dan admirers will stick with him in troubled times. Osaka reminds my of back in November when Dan fell to one off the yusho pace after his win over Onosato was stolen from him by the azn officialdom. The fair weather Danfans all gave up by the true faithful all still knew he'd be taking home the cup. Dan's rise to dai yokozuna legendary status is still as inevitable as the rising of the sun in the morning. Anti-danners will be tormented until 2040 or later at the hands of Dan, bank on it.
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>>258295
What do you call this kind of delusion?
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>>258296
Dan beat the eventual yusho winner, that means Dan is still the best wrestler out there.
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>>258295
his wins against Kirishima and Kotozakura were good, especially the former I recall he was getting his arms locked in and got a hold from the inside so it shows he's working on a solution.
Even though the dream was busted early he still gave an exciting narrative trying to dodge the MK and the grudge bout between him and Hosh putting him in kadoban. Still gonna be someone I enjoy watching.
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>>258301
Being on every single major Japanese TV show over the past 4 months and having a hundred parties and parades thrown in his honor was way too much distraction from Dan's training routine.
Maybe Dan needs to do a face heel turn so he won't be so popular and can focus more on working out, that move worked wonders for Hakuho
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>>258289
You are making a large amount of assumptions. The A kabu doesn't get somehow tainted or changed by who held it. Miyagino historically has been held by Low Maegashira and Juryo since 1989 up until Hakuho. EX Asahifuji being a yokozuna has no bearing on anything other than he was available to hold it after he passed Isegahama to Teru.
Furthermore there was a system called Ishidai Toshiyori, which would allow for a Single use share under the name of an exceptional yokozuna, to be retired when they retire from coaching. Only Taiho, Kitanoumi, Takanohana, and Chiyonofuji were ever offered this. In 2021 it was expected from Hakuho to also receive this honor. The YDC then decided, "uh no we don't have this system", source https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASP4M5V91P4MUTQP00J.html
>>258271
Asahifuji has also publicly expressed his desire to pass the Miyagino Kabu back to one of Hakuho's disciples with the aim of reopening Miyagino Stable.
But no, none of these things allow for drama fueled shitposting.
The pure conjecture regularly posted in these threads is absolutely fucking newfags.
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>>258310
I don't mind Kirishima winning. I just hate it when a basho fucking sucks. A 12-3Y with no playoff is already suspect, but when it's locked in day 13 because the Yokozuna can't contend it and the winner shits the bed days 14 and 15 that's just some weak shit my dude.
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>>258311
>I just hate it when a basho fucking sucks
Sure a more exciting end to the basho would have been better, that's about all I can agree on.
We got to watch some great fucking sumo and I enjoyed all 15 days. Great basho personally.
Just love watching some sumo, results, storylines, and records are all nice things which will elevate in some cases.
But I don't require those things to enjoy watching sumo.
But nah, gotta say everything sucks and be unhappy instead.
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>He grabbed me by the titty.
I know... I'll selectively breed my sons to great a rikishi with EXTRA titties! He'll be unstoppable.
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Last two years were the first time this century that Japs won the majority of the bashoes. Onosato needs to kick it into gear and dominate like everyone knows he can until the end of the year to keep that streak going. Can't depend on the Kotoshohos & Takerufujis of the world to help out, that dai yokozuna energy everyone know Onosato has needs to be turned on at full power every day. He can win six in a year if he applies himself to his game instead of derping around hazing the juniors with anal sake chugs
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>>258335
torinaoshi: warioland
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Sumo fact: water is lighter than fire.
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>>258351
>reeee da zooooonas!!!!
stfu schizo
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The first Pocari Sweat adverts featuring Dan are coming out now. They gave Dan a pile of money banking on him being yokozuna now and Dan spent it all on salo & potatoes and then went 7-8 is well on his way to becoming a Gagamaru tier fatass lower mægashira shitter.
Imagine the Pocari Sweat boardroom meetings when Dan's collapse kills their brand.
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Teru needs to learn to do something about his hair, that disorganized rat's nest on top of his head looks like crap. Its disrespectful of him to go out looking like that, bad for sumo's reputation. He just rolled out of bed hung over and just got dressed and went out without even looking in the mirror, probably didn't brush his teeth either. And Iseghama boasts a top tier tokoyama too
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>>258334
> Enho won't make a good oyakata, all he knows are ultra manlet techniques
At this level, every wrestler knows every technique and ways to defend against them. They’re not going to use them in the ring if that’s not their style.
A good coach will be able to help a wrestler identify his strengths and weaknesses and build around that no matter if they’re 160cm 100kg or 200cm 200kg.
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>>258383
>They’re not going to use them in the ring if that’s not their style.
It's a competitive sport, anon. No one is going to lose on purpose because this or that kimarite is "not their style". Styles develop because they tend to give a particular rikishi the best chance at winning.
>>258334 went too far in the other direction, though. All kabu-eligible sekitori know the basics well enough to bring anyone with actual talent to juryo at least. They are aware of techniques outside their style, but knowing a technique exists is not the same as knowing how to perform it or teach it to someone. A good oyakata would supplant his teachings with those of someone more specialized in whatever the rikishi's sumo style is.
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Anyone know a way to look up historical locations of stable buildings? I was dicking around looking around real estate listings and there's a place in Kashiwa for rent that was very obviously a former stable, but there's no indication from the listing or Street View which one it used to be.
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no they wouldn't, but I like your idea of him dropping dead lol
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>>258402
Wrong
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>>258392
Niggatame has really matured a lot. He is a lot more reserved on the slop channel. When he makes it to makuuchi I expect you to post your apology here on /xs/ so I can accept it for him.
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>>258432
Hukoseiho could've earned a decent amount of money for 10+ years as a perennial M10 by literally doing nothing but standing tall and not getting moved by manlets.
Instead he wasted his career by the type of bullying a 14y old would consider hilarious.
What's he's doing now instead? Not even any other sports, what a complete waste. Imagine being able to receive tens of thousands of dollars just by being tall and throwing it away for petty behavior.
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>>258403
Kisenosato doing his impression of me watching this video.
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Sumo broadcasting legend Kunihiro Sugiyama says KiriSHITma shouldn't have been promoted to ozeki because his 12-3 result didn't merit it regardless it having been a yusho
https://dot.asahi.com/articles/-/279221
Amongst other things he criticizes KiriSHITma for being unable to beat Dan even though everyone else has already figured him out
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Feels kinda bad seeing Dan III go MK two bashoes in a row
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threadly reminder that onosato hates anime and you should too
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>>258559
LOL
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>>258559
That's where you're wrong kiddo.
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>Hosh
>Harry Potter and Bleach
>BLEACH
What dogshit taste. I hate him more now.
>Atamifuji
>Eyeshield 21
Fuckin BASED. I love him more now.
>Kinbozan
>Fast & Furious series
>Shishi
>Marvel
This...this actually makes sense given their fighting styles.
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>>258586
Nabatranny probably watches that gay shit
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>>258430
>>258431
How does one fall so far and resort to posting dick pics of trannytame to remain relevant.
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Horseryu
Why u do this?
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enter
Dan goes first because he is the best
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Atamifuji is cuter
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Shishi will wait no longer
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crab
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