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Absolute unit!
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Sheʼs destroying the cafeteria just by «hi».
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Imagine bringing not even a monke, but an average boy. It still would be cringe.
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Who the fuck drink frome the bottle.
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>Didn't even care about the paper to remove it
>"CALM DOWN CHARLIE!!! YOU SHOULDN'T GET MAD AT THAT!!!"
Whole episode is just Charlie learning what it's like to deal with women.
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It's a baseball league here in the world of Monkey Mountain,
played by the great monkeys, which started when the first ball and bat
and the rules of the game were handed down to them.
In the Monkey League, a number of great players arose
from among the nameless monkeys,
whose faces and appearances all looked the same.
They included the legendary home run king,
who batted an unprecedented, record-breaking
80 home runs in one year, Steroid Monkey;
the one who bested the god of batting, Monkey River's career batting average
by two thousandths, the miracle hitting machine, Upper Monkey;
the greatest catcher of the Bigfoot era, Mister Monkey;
later, as manager, he would go on to break the record for most league wins,
with a legendary ten-season-long streak!
Then came the golden age of the M-League.
A miracle monkey came along
and shattered those previous legends one by one--
the monster, Monkey Blue!
This maverick of the league was the only one with blue hair,
who, despite weathering ugly discrimination and crafty persecution,
triumphed over them with overwhelming talent, ultimately becoming a hero,
and a symbol of hope for the monkeys!
Although a rookie, Blue put the brakes to the king, Steroid Monkey!
Breaking his bat as well as his heart, Blue drove him to retirement.
Then, with his mighty pitching arm,
Blue led the underdog team Monkey and Club to victory,
preventing Bigfoot's championship streak from reaching 11.
The public accepted this new hair color,
and there was no doubt in anybody's mind
that the era of Monkey Blue had begun! But then...
...that great tragedy, when a near-perfect game was foiled,
and a monkey was killed, took place!
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>Japanese midwit mangaka tries desperately to earn the attention of brainwashed Westerners
>he creates something so cringe that it could easily be mistaken for a parody
I almost feel bad for the shills who have to sweep for this crap
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>cold approach
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If you're pointing a gun at a paperweight, you're brandishing and doing something illegal/dangerous
If you try to arrest a paperweight, you're retarded
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>Charlie we're gonna get you friends!
>Ok, do you have friends?
>No...
I think it's good to have characters so oblivious of their own stupidity who never stop for a second to realize their flaws. "Wow I wonder why no one wants to be my friend" then talk about how she hates literally everyone around her, also how she talks about how "women are easier to befriend!" and act misogynist to her own gender. I do wish Charlie would speak up when she says something stupid, but at the end of the day Charlie just has more manners than a teen with mommy issues
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HE IS A FUCKING MONKE: SIMIUS, MONKEY, MONO, MACACO, SINGE, SCIMMIA, AFFE, AAP, MAIMUTA, MAIJMUN, OPICE, OPICA, MALPA, APINA, APE, MAJMUN, MOYMUN, ŠIŠMIŠ, PITHEKOS, SARU, HOU, KERA, MONYET, NYANI, KHIDU, TSÖÖ, VARAHA, KAPI, VANARA, AHV, ABÉ, APA, MAWPA, QIRD, WONSONGI, KAPIK, MEYMUN, BĀNARA, MAIMUNI, KŌTI, MAYMıL, LING, KURANGAN, MĀKAḌA, SARMAGCHIN, MYAWWAT, BĀM̐DARA, MĀṄKAḌA, BĪZŪ, VAN̆DURĀ, MAÝMYN, KURAṄKU, CON KHỈ, KOPI, OBIEZJANA, UNGGOY, XADINA, MUNCAIDH, MWNCI, MALPE, SIMIA, API, MICO, CHANGO, PÄRDIK, MĒRKAĶIS, AMBOK, KUYAD, UBAL, AMÒ, BUE, IVKI, ZAKO, THERO, UKAY, MARKAT, MAAKAD, BANDAR, BĀNDARA, LIAB, SVA... AND I'M TIRED OF PRETENDING OTHER THING. IF WE DON'T STOP HIM NOW, HE WILL BREED OUR WOMEN BECAUSE WOMEN ARE FUCKING STUPID AND EMOTIONAL. KILL ZE MONKE!!! HE WILL MAKE AN ARMY OF HIS KIN, MORE POWERFULL THAN ANY OTHER IN HISTORY, HE WILL TEACH THEM REAL GORILLA WARFARE AND CONQUER THE WORLD! WAKE UP ANON!
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Her hands are pretty
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She's sexy
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>>285786467
>interacted with western teens
Go back pedophile.
This is 18+ board. We don't interact with western teens.
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>>285786677
Felt like the pace was slower this time. I guess they wanted to savethe bigger eventsnext week.
Don't blame them. If itends where I think they'll endthen it's going to be wild.
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>>285786775
>If you use that logic then you'd be able to say the same for teen drama show writers.
nta but I get that feeling for a lot of tv/movie writers in general
Some of the dialogue I've listened to made me wonder if they've ever interacted with other human beings.
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If the police have an object like a gun in there possession and it somehow ends up in the reception of the police station and you then try to take it home that is obviously very very illegal. Charlie being an object should make it impossible for him to leave the station without going through the proper procedure.
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>>285786953
I'm pretty sure most people don't care and know it's over the top and stupid.
Have you seen Degrassi? Teenage pregnancies, doing crack and heroin, school shootings, prostitution, all in one school. I'm pretty sure no one thinks that show is realistic.
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Im stating the obvious for fellow retards. His name charles is from charles darwin and her name lucy comes from the name of earliest human found, who was female (earliest human found at the time this series was made).
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>>285783606
Charilie is ugly, kind of a psycho and a bit retarded, so maybe, Lucy is really annoying so no
>>285787083
Kek, why is this guy so buttblasted?
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>>285789117
THEY HATE IT
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>>285789122
kek
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>>285789122
Based and sincere pilled.
>>285789388
Ironic cringe.
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>>285789122
I'm... not sure what you're getting at.
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>>285789724
>Why are they trying to own people with facts and logic instead of shoving them into lockers?
Monke will solo him. Physically bullying Monke is bad idea because he is too famous. This isn't ghetto school.
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>>285789122
As an Orb fan I take offence to this shilling. Orb was at least entertaining and whilst it wasnt any grand new ideas it wasnt on the fucking nose to the point of it seeming like GITS 2 level awkward dialogue just without it being interesting. Here is a Jap trying to hamfist talking points via what they think is western dialogue. Its paraody tier and comes off as obnoxious and worse its not very entertaining. Its mid but the cringe dialogue is making me want to drop it.
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Don't you want to see how far it can go? We've had discrimination, lesbians, independent strong women, joker name dropped, white police oppression, all in one episode.
It's a shame this isn't an original and the manga exists, having a bingo for this would be the height of entertainment.
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>>285790249
Im enjoying the shitposting in the thread more than ths show. >>285789724 comparing the bullies to Kirk and Shapiro is funny but I can just skim through the thread for that. Plus thats more insightful into what retarded culture shit drifts across the Pacific that makes Japs think this is what Mutts are like. Within that its just cringe and hard to take seriously.
>It's a shame this isn't an original
Id probably 100% resign myself at that point as the ride would be funnier.
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>>285790319
Not really. Orb its more they make base level discussion but its not cringe and the character interactions and overarching plot is entertaining and only somewhat retarded but within the bounds of whats good fiction. Here the culture war dialogue not being in a paraody makes it look retarded. If the author wanted to make a better comment on veganism unironically Japan wouldve been a better setting as theyd know what its like within their own culture and its way harder to be vegan in Japan so it would have more to work with. The ALA shit you could just make some Yakuza sect.
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It's just presented better. The actual content of their dialogues is just as infantile and uneducated. It's a japanese man having a surface knowledge of Christianity and basing his story on a false myth (that he was to walk back on in the ending while still trying to connect it to real history, the retarded double whammy). It literally just "sounds smart" while being just as stupid as Darwin.
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>anime offends american tourists
>"We're not like that!"
>"Culture war dialogue is cringe!"
>"Muh veganism"
>"Actually western politics is really nuanced and deep"
>all this while posting on 4chan
>all this when we can witness all cringe live on camera IRL
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Its more the fact its believable. Take the debate Oczy and Baldeni have about the scientific method and about it being different to faith. Sure its not really anything actually deep especially to any actual theologists or scientists but its believable and fairly normal dialogue given one is a layman and one youve learnt at that point is arogant. Its entertaining and well presented. Here, whilst the message is arguiable just as surface level its not entertaining not just because its not as well presented but because it hamefists it into being too awkard and unbelievable and doesnt really try and let the message seepe through the entertainment format. It reads like a parody even before the americanism. If it fully embraced the parody aspect it would probably work better. Rigth now it feels dull and cringe despite me wanting to try and like it even outside of enjoying the threads and the OC produced here.
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Western politics isnt nuanced but making this serious and trying to be deep and not treating it like a meme as we would makes it feel off. And I say that in a boring totalitarian shithole that is the UK. And NORF at that so fuck all happens.
Tbh if it came out 5-7 years earlier it might not have come off as bad.
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Why do pseuds always watch japanese cartoons? To validate themselves with their Dunning Kruger style "author dumb me smart" hot takes?
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>>285790658
>but its believable and fairly normal dialogue
It's not. You might want to read up on theological debate that actually occured during that timeframe in Poland. Again, it only seems smarter because it's presented in a more "mature" way. The content itself is very much the same.
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>>285790584
>>all this when we can witness all cringe live on camera IRL
But that's exactly what people make fun of. Some jap saw one of those "debate" clips on Youtube and thinks that's how western politics work and how normal people talk.
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Youre ignoring the point I made about the debate being between the two characters especially. The overarching commentary is as you say surface level Jap PoV for christianity in that period. My point was that the discussion happening between Badeni who is in the context of the setting decently intelligent, and Oczy who wouldnt know shit about science or theology. Its compelling because it shows Oczy learnign from his naive position and also makes Badeni review his own thoughts. If the positions were reversed it wouldnt work. It also assumes the reader knows the topic enough for the surface level takes and focuses more on being entertaining. The same isnt true here which is why the comparison is weak. Its like saying any anime that is or tries to be deep and interlectual are mostly the same and comparable when theyre a genre which includes good and bad shows.
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>Western politics isnt nuanced but making this serious and trying to be deep and not treating it like a meme as we would makes it feel off.
I have seen people crying and screaming because of elections IRL
I have seen Hollywood actor sitting all night in the middle of nowhere with baseball ball defending a flagpole from 4chan
I have seen women shitting on the table in McDonalds
I have seen insane madness and acts from famous people, politician on social media
I have seen politicians acting like a clowns IRL
But no it's all meme and not serious LMAO. Everyone threat it like a meme (that's why they argue for hours in heated discussions). Real politics is different. It's about 200IQ highly educated people discussing very serious topics using logic and facts like those old Greek homos.
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>Read the next chapter
>This
We're going based. So based.
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The anime is censored
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>>285791175
Are you arguing that western politics is deep because a woman shat on a McDonalds' table?
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>>285791255
This reaction is 100% close to reality.
Author is on point about everything.
This is GATE 2.0
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>>285791175
Youre seeing the issue as black and white with it either being LMAO XD MEME politics or complete boring mundane sensible stuff. Those people treating it seriously and being retarded about it is as you say a meme, but thats because its comical/absurd so its entertaining even without the context 9/10. You dont need to understand why Shia is being a faggot to find HWNDU funny becauses its innately amusing and entertaining. This anime is failing at the entertaining aspect whilst also not really making any good point on the topic so it fails on both levels. >>285790954 makes a good point as thats how it sounds but it lacks the 'lmao look at these retards' aspect.
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>>285791349
You're pretentious pseud trying to be intellectual. Both Orb and Darwin are not pretentious.
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This show is so fucking stupid, and im loving every second of it when im not dying of cringe.
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>Latin American dubbing:¿Le apunta con un arma a buenos ciudadanos? Eso es opresión policial. Y se lo van a comer en redes sociales.
Are you pointing a gun at good citizens?
That's police oppression.
And they're going to eat you on social media.
>Spanish dubbing from Spain:¿Estás apuntando con un arma a civiles inocentes? Es esta la opresión de los policías blancos? Te van a comer vivo en las redes.
Are you pointing a gun at innocent civilians?
Is this white police oppression?
They're going to eat you alive on social media.
>Spanish subtitles from Spain:Estás apuntando con una pistola a unos inocentes. La brutalidad de los polis blancos siempre incendia las redes sociales
You're pointing a gun at innocent people.
The brutality of white cops always sets social media ablaze.
I watched the episode with Latin American dubbing, where white people are not mentioned at all, and I was surprised to see that picture with the mention of white people in the English subtitles.
And then I checked the Spanish dubbing and subtitles, and they mention the color of the police officers. It kind of changes the scene.
You would have to know Japanese to know what Lucy really said.
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Im willing to try and watch more of this based on anons saying ti picks up and is entertaining after a while but ngl Lucy is the weak link and the cringe spurns from her and is growing with each episode.
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>>285791502
>its trying to be
Nah. You're just insecure about simple messages and themes in fiction because you're pseud. You also will never admit that something is deep because it's part of your personality to be pseud and calling something, anything deep will open (You) for attack and mockery from me, Pseud Slayer.
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>>285791843
>All this projection
If you dont understand the difference thats fine Anon. Some people have to be retarded for the sake of the rest of us, I applaud you filling that role.
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No worries, EOPbro.
>>285791755
>Another was entertaining.
Another is just normal anime. Perhaps if you have watched Another completely blind without knowing its history of being /a/ trainwreck circlejerk show your perception would be completely different, unaffected by memes. Same with Elfen Lied.
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>>285791940
>Gonsia poster
How about we play Aces.
Name 5 deep anime and 5 deep manga. You have 3 minutes. I already extrapolated all possible routes.
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>>285792115
Do you want an actual answer as Ill need to check my list. Or can I just spam EVA for all 5 as is customary?
>Manga
Nvm its over. I rarely read...
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Ty Anon.
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>34 KB, 500x281
You bring shame to Gnos
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>>285792231
or some say Gnosm
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>>285792223
>need to check list
>EVA
>didn't make it in time
SLAYED
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>>285792165
I remember almost having a stroke from laughing so hard at the ending when they just put the notebook (or was it a tape or something) back to the same spot, thus ensuring that the next generation will kill dozens of students again, all while the show pretends that this is the happy ending lol.
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>>285792288
>Mushishi
You didn't pass.
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>>285792307
Ive watched too many shows anon.
>Thinks the EVA comment was serious
>>285792115
Ive not really watched many Id really consider actually really deep unlike what the shows the other anon replied with. My point was more that you can tell something tries to be deeper than it actually is when its not. Its more about it not staying in its place as simply being entertainment.
My 5 (mostly entry level deep) anime would be
>16bit Sensation
>GITSI dont just mean either movie
>Darker than Black 1st season
>Serial Experiments Lain (arguably outdated)
>Negaposi Angler
None of them are really extensively deep but the message they have is explored well which is more my point of contention with this show.
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>>285790173
I was into it at first but this episode was pretty damn bad, even if it's meant to be on purpose. Lucy of all people has no right or reason to coach anyone else about friends and Charlie has said next to nothing of his own volition so far. He just stands there.
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>>285790173
>As an Orb fan I take offence to this shilling.
I was making fun of it. I wasn't recommending Orb or Vinland Saga S2 because they're retarded garbage for pseuds who have never read a book that wasn't genre fiction.
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>>285793421
I read some books. They were all garbage. Pratchett was right.
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>>285793469
I don't know about you, but this was peak comedy.
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>>285793462
They are comparable in terms of philosophical value. Orb is definitely a much better show overall, I'm not denying that. I'm just saying it's just as stupid as Darwin when it comes to examining its themes.
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>>285793501
That part was okay. Everything that happened in the cafeteria was just painful, and there's still nothing to think about because the active characters so far besides Charlie's parents are all political caricatures.
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>having surface level understanding of monke show
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>>285793586
Fuck off Rapephilus Incellius. We love Lucy here.
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>>285793606
Vegans are the ones who usually push their diet onto others, or want others to conform to their diet, and critize the production of the diet of others. The vast majority of people think you're a weirdo if you're vegan.
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I bet we have vegan ITT.
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>>285793788
>"this is too smart for westerners".
Well it is. I never felt myself so smart before opening Darwin threads.
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Lured out.
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>Dark Knight
>Mad Max
>Charlie scaring off girls
>Lucy threatens her mom with being an autistic NEET who plays video games
>Lucy says she's sick of people who only talk about games and anime
This episode feels a little targeted.
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>>285782785
I laugh at the retards who think Darwin Jihen is a deep or pretentious anime, or that it wants to be serious, when it's just a parody of the US. The author is just laughing at American clichés. If the author had wanted to make a serious manga, he would have set it in Japan or an unnamed country, but he sets it in the US to mock woke culture, conservatives, activists, and racists in the US.
He doesn't want to establish any truth, he just asks some uncomfortable questions through his characters as if he were trolling, but without taking it seriously, which is why the protagonist is a monke.
When I watch the anime, I see a comedy, a parody. Only pseuds think they're watching a drama. It makes me laugh that they get offended and try to say: “No, that's not how we Americans are.”
Kek.
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>>285782785
It's like the author is going through a checklist of American online discourse and cramming it all in
I guess that has its own value
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So is Amerimutt the Anime any good?
I watched the first ep expecting a whacky comedy, but it's incredibly dry to the point I can't tell if they're taking the piss or being dumb
Nearly cringed at the vegan crap until jock chud put them in their place, and the two girls were retarded. Lucy is also a bit retarded, cats can get out of trees themselves
Had to laugh at Charlie's autistic school shooter vibes, someone get that ape a trench coat
The PETA terrorists reminded me too much of the South Park PETA episode, made me lol at their over the top ridiculousness
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>>285797529
You should have a point first before you mock a stereotype though. Darwin is basically "look how silly I am!" in anime form. What you're doing here is "haha it's just a comedy!" while also claiming that it's asking "uncomfortable" questions.
If you want to call it a parody, then it's a shitty one because it misunderstands the things it's trying to make fun of.
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would epstein fund darwin or nah?
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These guys >>285798892 >>285798928 who get offended are the ones who make me laugh the most. Kek
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The humanzee abides
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>>285798859
>Had to laugh at Charlie's autistic school shooter vibes, someone get that ape a trench coat
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You know how we can tell this isn't an American school at all?
>No metal detectors
>No security guards
>Vegans not being bullied out of school
>Bullies not being fucking garbage at all times
>People not suspicious as FUCK over a guy at school in a black hoodie
That being said, Charlie complimenting the handkerchief was funny as hell.
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>>285799949
I think Orb is shit because all the mannerisms are so extremely obviously non-polish that it takes me out of the experience. Now proceed to call me the same person as well or whatever it is you freaks are doing.
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It was /u/, /gif/, fucking moot in the ass, and creating /pol/.
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>Democrat politician helping Jews get a monkey out of jail
The mangaka knows US politics really well.
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>>285800897
Guarantee that after a while of Charlie not reacting to any of the bullying, he would earn some people's respect. Lucy angrily ripping off the sign from Charlie's locker just increased the snickering.
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>not reacting to any of the bullying, he would earn some people's respect
This literally never works. Most bullies don't get a rise out of your reactions, they are usually just looking for an emotional outlet. You might as well be a walking punching bag to them. The kind of person who revels in your reactions is usually found in other context, i.e. on this very website.
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>You might as well be a walking punching bag to them
That might apply in most cases but not to Charlie since he literally feels nothing about the provocation and they can't do anything to him physically. Eventually some people will realize he's just chill like that.
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>>285801091
Well in reality they wouldn't start morality debates with him either. They would call him a niggermonkey nonstop, throw garbage at him, steal his shit, spread lies about him and so on. You can't be this ignorant.
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>They would call him a niggermonkey nonstop
He wouldn't care, and he probably wouldn't even realize they're referring to him.
>throw garbage at him
He would dodge.
>steal his shit
He'd take it back.
>spread lies about him
They're already doing that.
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>>285801134
Yeah, we shouldn't consider realistic solutions to Charlie's situation, since nobody in this anime is acting realistically. That's why I think Charlie's best move is to try out for the lead role in the school's musical. When the ALA inevitably raids in the middle of it, and Charlie gives an impassioned speech about how the show must go on, he'll win everyone's hearts.
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This guy is hilarious.
>I am going to bully you by challenging your worldview with philosophical and ethical questions about sentience, the value of living beings, and moral patienthood
Even in the OP, he's schooling some bitches with facts and logic. The only thing the author got wrong was making him a jock instead of a scrawny know-it-all with a nasally voice. The comparisons to Charlie Kirk and Ben Shapiro are apt, except he's less intellectually dishonest.
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I just can't get over how he looks and how every character spouts some superficial debate topic, it's so fucking funny. If this is a parody then they did an amazing job. If not then the creators are the biggest retards I've seen in years.
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Consumption of meat was stigmatized due to a prohibition via imperial degree for a millennium until the government started pushing for more meat consumption as part of westernization, but it never applied to fish and I think products from live animals were fair game so it would be pescatarian at most.
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Aren't plants already confirmed to have a very complex "neural system", if you start breaking a tree in one side of the forest the trees at the other side are going to be aware, it is quite amazing if you start to read about it, trees had internet way before humans.
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>>285782785
Okay, I'm calling it quits.
I read the manga until the chapter that would be episode 4 and was slightly interested in where it was going, but this episode is boring as hell, I couldn't even finish it and it's way too mean spirited.
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>>285790954 makes a good point as thats how it sounds but it lacks the 'lmao look at these retards' aspect.
It's because they don't have the same internet culture we go. To them, it's genuinely baffling why someone would go online and act like a retard with the intention on changing someone's mind. To be fair, I still don't get it and I've been on the internet for 30 years.
To them, they see the debate club where they scream at each other non-sequiturs with the intention on getting the other to make a 'Gotcha' and then make a point around that to convince their followers instead of other people to be an alien concept. Why talk to someone if you don't want to convince them but instead convince other people who are watching them what a cringe moron he is? It would be more effective to ignore them. And Japan is right, the "Keep adding fuel to the fire in hopes that it immolates them" strategy has rarely ever worked. Can you think of an eceleb who burned to ash and vanished because they were flamed enough online? From memory, that has only made them more popular.
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>People not suspicious as FUCK over a guy at school in a black hoodie
As someone with family still in school, this is just called "Being 15". They would have to arrest everyone in the ninth grade if they wanted to enforce this.
You're right about everything else, especially trigger-happy resource officers who are completely strapped and look like they want to pound you into the dirt for looking at them wrong.
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They induce what amounts to compulsive gambling. But the gamble is just talk again, get up again, try the next thing. It's compulsive in that your brain shall perform the actions before you can decide to, and not daring when it's a bad idea becomes the new struggle. If you get no more successes from the extra tries, you just addicted yourself to a chemical you can't get more of w/o a professional manipulator's say so with no tangible benefit besides getting to claim you're on brain meds for bonus sympathy. So you wanna make your own decision whether to take them, and not just take medical advice that only addresses modifying your behavior at any cost. Read how real people say it makes them feel. And even if you try it, get a real clear idea first about what getting off them safely w/o medical intervention entails.
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That's too self aware for this show. It'll be a persecution episode where Charlie is lumped in with the Red Pill guy because they're both Vegans. It'll be 100% the entire school turning against him, his actions in stopping him ignored. This will a deep statement on American society isolating social minority groups regardless of the good they may have done to stopping problems.
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>that title
Holy shit next episode is going to be amazing
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If you build a machine that passes the test, you can spin up obedient rights holders to exploit any way you please until they change the laws, if they even can with massive lobbying interference. Like injuns harvesting drugs, but instant, automatic and scaling w/ hardware availability. It also makes a complete mockery of the law, which is fun.
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>There's already a school shooter character
There could be two
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>>285789122
Comparing the CHAD: ON THE BASEDNESS OF THE CINEMA with CHUDwin incident is a crime punishable with an anvish pear directly delivered by this guy
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>>285790927
Anon you are acting like the characters in Orb are all expert theologist from their era.
Meanwhile they all are
>and orphan kid with good education but yet to see the world
>an arrogant noble priest
>an ignorant everyman that didn’t even know how to write
>a cute and naive scolar
>a atheist gypsy pajeeta that got taught by her opportunistic uncle
>a traumatized guy that larped as medieval Bane from TDNR
>an opportunistic priest that would literally put innocent girls on stakes to get profit out of it
>and a competent mercenary with little education
The level of their dialogues is credible and legit considering the characters involved and what they believe about the universe and “god”. Its never on the nose and it feels realistic within the knowledge and skills they have
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It sucks, should I say, monkey fuck?
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>one ,UNO , 1 priest that was declassed from his order to be the priest in a shitty village
>a young and shy scholar (woman) at her very very first years, to the point she was denied to take part of most of the important discussions because of her role and gender, and barely was able to listen at them via a convoluted way to spy them
Yes, they are literally bottom of the barrel of their ranking and orders. And they are taking discussions with a low tier moron like Okzy and a depressed and dying baron that than accept to take the gamble for what it is worth it.
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DOUMO DOUMO mmmMMMMMAEBARA-SAN~~
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Do you know Oyashiro-sama?
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why is some fucking bugmen from japan talking of US politics? in a poorly animated garbage slopnime of all things?
It's the same thing with euroPEONS, like how about you PIPE down, since we OWN you and all of that lol.
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>Aren't plants already confirmed to have a very complex "neural system"
They lack a nervous system and consciousness necessary for sentience, which means they do not feel pain in the way animals do
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>There is ongoing research into plant cognition and it's pretty compelling.
They do have amazingly complex systems and adaptability, but they function entirely differently from the awareness and emotional capacity found in animals
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>Some plants, like Tomato plants scream in the infrasonic range when you cut them
They emit certain sounds due to natural processes, but they do not experience pain or suffering as animals do since they lack a nervous system
Also, when making a bold claim that goes against scientific consensus please back it with some proof, otherwise you're just like the bullies from the show spouting whatever.
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>>285806456
You sound like a faggot so no one cares if you're correct, especially in a casual conversation
There are ways to interject expertise into a conversation without coming across as a gaping dick hole, and you would be prudent to learn and use them.
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>They lack a nervous system and consciousness necessary for sentience, which means they do not feel pain in the way animals do
This is a philosophical overreach on your part. It’s true that plants do not feel pain in the same way animals do. However, what does not follow is that therefore plants do not feel anything at all or that nociception-like processes are irrelevant. Nervous systems are not the only possible substrate for information processing. Pain is an experience, not a structure. Neurons are one known implementation, not a logically exclusive one. Plants clearly perform functions previously thought to require nervous systems, such as electric signaling, memory and priming.
>They do have amazingly complex systems and adaptability, but they function entirely differently from the awareness and emotional capacity found in animals
Awareness and emotional capacity are not binary properties. There is no scientific cutoff where awareness suddenly appears. Even in animals, awareness exists on a continuum, not a switch. Saying plant systems "function entirely differently" does not justify concluding they cannot support subjective states. Plants show goal-directed, context-sensitive behavior, such as distinguishing between different types of damage, prioritizing responses based on resource availability and altering future behavior based on past stress. Your claim is philosophical, not scientific.
>They emit certain sounds due to natural processes, but they do not experience pain or suffering as animals do since they lack a nervous system
Sound emission is irrelevant to the question of experience. Animals also emit sounds for purely mechanical reasons, when they eat and fart. The presence or absence of sound is not an indicator for potential suffering. The absence of a nervous system only proves absence of animal-like suffering, not the absence of experience entirely. In scientific circles, there's no definite answer to this at all.
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Cont'd
>Also, when making a bold claim that goes against scientific consensus please back it with some proof, otherwise you're just like the bullies from the show spouting whatever.
There is no scientific consensus that plants cannot have any form of subjective experience. We know that plants do not have neurons, they don't have brains and they don't feel pain as animals do. However, that is not equivalent to plants categorically lacking any morally relevant experience. So the "bold claim" accusation can be shot right back at you: Provide a definition of sentience accepted across neuroscience, philosophy, and biology (you can't) and proof that this definition logically excludes non-neural systems (literally impossible).
No one is claiming plants feel pain the way animals do. The question is whether animal-style nervous systems are the only possible basis for experience. That is a philosophical assumption, not a settled scientific fact like you implied. Science currently cannot confirm plant sentience, but it also cannot rule it out. So presenting certainty where there is epistemic uncertainty is itself a bold claim. Now sit down and shut the fuck up trying to act like you know anything about this topic, you homo.
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>Check the series twitter
>A lot of angry chinks in the posts replies
>Wishing for the author to die levels of anger
Why so mad?
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>>285783017
God this gave me PTSD from the times I tried to fit in with people that didn't give a shit
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kek this anime is a diamond mine
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funny as fuck, Chadrlie doesn't give a single shit
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no mention of race, of course. >>285791903
not what accurate means
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she's actually a crazy bitch and everyone is right about her. we are just used to her bestest side because she's fallen for Charlie
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>>285808334
It can construct a physical model that allows for manipulation that evokes any term you like. Even if you're just belligerently saying the milk is pizzled, your belligerence can be detected statistically and even quieted through psychology or pharmacology. What's left, false memories? Those are even easier to predict and manufacture. Your ignorance of what is possible does nothing to protect you from it.
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>>285809081
>I thought seeing a japanese perspective on America would be charming like Earthbound or whatever but instead it's just shallow stuff you see on CNN
Is this surprising? America has not been a 'charming' place in 30 years
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>>285810383
You're just talking about physical phenomena. No description can go beyond that surface no matter how sophisticated you get. You may be able to manipulate it all you want, but you can't enlighten anyone as to anything beyond the physical mechanisms involved.
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People keep claiming this is parody tier, but a lot of non-Americans see America like this, it's not exclusively some Japanese instance of ignorance. Hell, a lot of Americans see America like this.
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I hope the author kills himself after he gets rejected by the Westerner baizhuo that he tried so hard to please. The shills on 4chan will continue to pretend this is an epic intellectual destruction of the simpleton Western politics and/or a parody of Westerners (both are lies). But the true intended demographic in the West that the author wanted to please? They're gonna get triggered by the author turning a Magical Man into the main villain & a bullied vegan into a school shooter. That offends them greatly, because Magic people cannot be villains unless they're cops or misogynists or Uncle Toms and all school shootings are done by right wingers.
At best, we're gonna get an essay that this is offensive to blacks, because the chimpoid is clearly a metaphor for African-Americans, or something like that.
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Probably this. I live in a 100% white country and I have never seen or heard of anyone having a problem with drinking from bottles, especially drinking water. I guess it's a taboo in the 3rd world, because you have some ultra high toxicity plastic, or your warehouses are filled with rats.
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Saw this a while ago. They REALLY hate this series it seems.
https://x.com/tiansai25497/status/2017058860620779774
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>this has 100 updoots
what is wrong with chinese people?
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>>285813777
You underestimate the task of processing and storing large animal carcasses. You basically need a farm with hogs or a huge compost pipeline to use every part of a corpse, even if you have a cascaras shredder.
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>looked up the ending song on youtube so i can pirate it with yt-dlp [tm]
>catch a glimpse of a thumbnail in the corner of my eye
>barely able to contain my laughter at work
Anyway, I hope someone makes a version of the ED (full or TV sized, I don't care) without the monkey singing. I just want to hear Akko from LWA singing.
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>Pain is an experience, not a structure. Neurons are one known implementation, not a logically exclusive one. Plants clearly perform functions previously thought to require nervous systems, such as electric signaling, memory and priming
If any biochemical reaction counts as "experience," then a smoke detector is sentient
>Saying plant systems "function entirely differently" does not justify concluding they cannot support subjective states. Plants show goal-directed, context-sensitive behavior
Reaction isn't reflection. Without a centralized nervous system, there is no "observer" to have the experience. You’re confusing automated stimulus with subjective awareness
>In scientific circles, there's no definite answer to this at all.
Hiding behind "epistemic uncertainty" is just a wordy way to admit you have no evidence
>That is a philosophical assumption, not a settled scientific fact like you implied. Science currently cannot confirm plant sentience, but it also cannot rule it out
Demanding proof of a negative is a textbook logic fail. Stick to the philosophy, biology clearly isn't your thing.
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people like you that don't even watch the show join the threads just to cry, are you also shills or?
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>To them, it's genuinely baffling why someone would go online and act like a retard with the intention on changing someone's mind. To be fair, I still don't get it and I've been on the internet for 30 years.
It's insecurity and seeking validation through consensus. Someone disagreeing means they might be wrong and we can't have that.
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>>285812963
>puts forth the anti-human notion that "humans can eat animals, so why can't we eat humans"
Genuinely what's making them react like this? Is there something about their translation or a cultural misunderstanding that's causing them to interpret things in such a hostile way? Why are they even so mad about this statement? Just look at their own history.
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I've heard about the dangers of prions. But if not for that and witch hunters, I would honestly eat a dead person, even if I'd met them in life. Might even speak to their memory and wish them well first.
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>>285785566
Charlie is quite literally the only redeeming character in this fucking shit show
In fact this entire story should have just been the highschool antics of Charlie without all this other political bullshit
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>>285820307
You'll only get infected by prions if the person was also infected, and most of the danger comes from eating the brain. But my point was why the Chinese of all people are so outraged by Charlie questioning the taboo of cannibalism. China has a long history of eating humans, especially women and girls.
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The political bullshit is wildly entertaining to me because it feels like the mangaka got it all from Netflix and CW shows. It's just so surreal seeing stuff like this in manga and anime, especially when it's off the mark like the redpill guy being communist.
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>>285824040
You know those videos like "what x language sounds like to a non-speaker" where someone who doesn't speak the language tries to imitate it? And it's hilarious because it's completely wrong but also accurate at the same time? That's what this is in anime form.
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I am a slav living in Asia and I do think it is cringe as fuck too. The writer is a westaboo like Watanabe and Kojima, if they grew up on twitter and kekdit. There is not a single believable character in the whole show. It is extra worse when you realize in realize nothing in the series matters, because everyone, but Charlie, is fucking retarded. It will take like a hundred episodes for Charlie to deny the meme philosophy of everyone around him.
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>>285806892
Ah but have you considered that perhaps STARS are sentient?
https://www.sheldrake.org/files/pdfs/papers/Is_the_Sun_Conscious.pdf
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>If any biochemical reaction counts as "experience," then a smoke detector is sentient
Isn't that an appeal to intuition? I'm not saying I believe this, but by Uma Musume anon's point, you can't really prove that the biochemical reactions of a smoke detector can't make it sentient and have the ability to experience pain. Yeah, if he thinks it's impossible for smoke detectors to be sentient, he's being inconsistent, but he could very well believe that it's possible smoke alarms are sentient and can experience pain, and you don't have a way to argue against it other then "well that's stupid."
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Uma anon here. He's completely off. I never made the claim that *any* biochemical reaction equals experience. I made the claim that complex, integrated, information-processing biological systems might ground experience even without neurons. The smoke detector argument is a strawman. A smoke detector is a single fixed trigger, has no self-maintenance, no learning or memory, no internal goal structure, no adaptive reconfiguration, no systemic integration and is not metabolically autonomous. Plants, on the other hand, have continuous electrical signaling across tissues, state-dependent responses, memory (priming), organism integration via hormones, adaptive behavior tuned to survival and reproduction, self-preservation and repair functions.
To follow up on this, this pseud has never read anything about philosophy of mind or neuroscience. Candidates for experience ususally include global coordination of behavior, persistence of internal state, homeostasis, context-dependent response, and integration of information across the system. Smoke detectors have none of these. Plants have several.
If neurons are the only possible basis of experience, then any creature without a brain, like early animals or decentralized nervous systems, would be incapable of feeling anything. But biology keeps discovering cognition and sensitivity in simple systems.
The only reason I keep calling him a fag is because he tried to sound smart and shut down the arguments of people who made claims that hold more ground than his own, even if he presented them in a "better" manner. So just a peak pseud.
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My school had all of that except the school shooting. Some gang member did come in with a gun after hours but didn't actually shoot anyone. Oh and some kids did a drive by shooting at the school's windows at night. But that doesn't really count as a 'schools shooting' either.
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>>285812963
Is this like those chinese people who kill all those cats?
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>>285800057
It does really show how westerners have their heads up their asses about whatever their particular flavor of pseudointellectual bullshit is, while grinding to a screeching emotional halt over philosophy 101 problems.
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>>285831581
>GATE was retarded
No.
>It's a military anime from an armchair warrior punk
Yeah a you can't write anything military related unless you're war veteran amrite? Author served in JSDF so he is already more qualified to write and talk about military topics than (You) are, virgin mutt /k/ommando.
Facts.
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>>285832735
They JSDF quite literally doesn't do anything. They're not even allowed to. That's why I can say the author doesn't understand the military regardless of what his status is. His country doesn't *have* a fucking military, for all intents and purposes.
Japan is weak. There is literally 0% of a chance the US wouldn't tell the JSDF to step aside and do nothing while they handled it. GATE is just Starship Troopers type jingoism, eastern edition, except it's also more inherently pathetic because of how weak and inept Japan actually is. It's literally one of the meekest, most powerless countries on the planet. It's literally defenseless without American help.
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>>285832950
>where is my AMERIKA FUCK YEAH SELF-INSERT HOLLYWOOD FANTASY?
You're armchair mutt opinion doesn't matter. You're not qualified to talk about those topics. End of discussion.
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>>285833065
I'm not making things up.
GATE is a delusional fantasy, it's a poor representation of the military, it has no themes, its plot is retarded. I could go on but you're obviously not worth speaking with because you're a retard.
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>>285812963
Wait
Why did the chink hating on this?
I thought Darwin is American's parody