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How strong is Orange Piccolo compared to Jiren?
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>>285801989
I don't remember who won between UI Goku and Beasthan in Tacoshartopaco's toilet paper. But the logic is Beast =? UI = Jiren > Orange
Though it's important to know that Superhero is happening 10 trillion years after ToP so Jiren might be 1 trillion times stronger or weaker
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Jiren for sure
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1- Gohan
2- Jiren
3- Broly
4- Vegeta
5- Beerus
My top 5 characters
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>>285802081
>Liking SHARThan
KekyPOW
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the fuck is his problem?
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1.jiren
2.jiren
3.jiren
Power gap
4.jiren
5.jiren
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>>285802117
short man complex
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>>285802123
Dragon Ball Super: Jiren
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>>285802117
Goku INSISTS on chichi being kissed
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It was impossible to defend Daima after this.
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>>285801989
one shots him
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I like to think Orange Juice Piccolo would have an edge over Jiren due to his magic and Namekian physiology advantages.
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>>285802634
It was impossible to defend it after it was announced as anime about toddlers
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Poppansy.
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>>285802634
Defending daipa was impossible after its first trailer got released
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Forgot how clean the paneling is on this page.
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You guys can keep pretending that dragon ball is made for adults but you're just deluding yourselves. Everytime you bitch about shit like GT, or Daima, or Goku being stupid you actively miss the intentions of all the creatives behind dragon ball. It's not supposed to be mature.
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>>285802117
He's seething at jobbing again.
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>>285803143
>You guys can keep pretending that dragon ball is made for adults
Literally no one has ever said it's made for adults, retard. It's a fucking cartoon.
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>>285803167
>literally no one
Did you not read any thread before this one?
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>>285803143
Dragonball was not. Everything that came later targets the same people who became DB fans at the time, so you are talking about people on their 40s or late 30s
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>>285803167
> It's a fucking cartoon.
Stfu, burger faggot
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>>285803186
Yeah and no one has ever said that a fucking anime for teens is actually for adults. That's like saying 2+2=3
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>>285803143
Go back to troondit
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Rock the Dragon!
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>>285803197
You can't seriously believe that.
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THE TARD TRIO
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>>285803279
>literally who?
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This is the only canon series, anything that came before or after is noncanon fanfiction.
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>>285802391
Left = Noncanon

Right = Canon
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>>285803445
Correct.
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>>285803410
Nope, tar
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>>285802391
Im so glad that furry form with gay eyeliner is not canon.
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>>285803445
>>285803471
Cope, you lost
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>>285803506
Shut up, you faggot
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>>285803410
Yep, only Z is real, Grande Taco, Stupor, Daipa and the adventures of Baby Goku are not canon.
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>>285803507
My bad
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>>285803533
Stfu, retarded tranny
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<-- open for a JOKE
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>>285803543
Sorry but your pedo stuff is noncanon compadre
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>>285802063
The hell was Toriyama cooking?
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Can't wait for this scene to be animated. How is the SSB portion the best fight this arc?
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>>285803589
>faggy buzzwords
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>>285803562
The way they casually ruined Majin Buu by having him be created by some random witch after they already did the "ancient eldricth horror" thing was baffling.
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>>285803651
kek this horned nigga named fart
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>>285803410
Nope, only CANON Ball, CANON Ball Z and CANON Ball GT are real, NONCANON Balll GARBAGECANper and NONCANON Ball GARBAGECANper: GARBAGECANper TRASHero are not canon.
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>>285803651
:0
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The public execution apptoaches...
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>>285803671
>CANON Ball GT
Nope
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>>285803683
>>285803671
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Canon Ball GT? My ass! More like tie the creators of GT to a canon and fire it bitch!
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Grand Turd stopped getting new content decades ago because it is not canon.
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>>285803620
The way they have been drawing the kid characters lately is ASS. OG Goku was an ugly fat little goblin and it was charming. Daipa Goku literally looks like the Nick Jr toddler show version of Goku. I brought htis up a few times to people when Daima was first coming out and nobody ever agreed with me but I feel like it is plain as day to see. The collective delusion and cope around Daipa was fucking insane, I really believe it was boosted at the time just by virtue of it being the last Toriyama project, but now time has vindicated me and it has already been forgotten
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>>285803704
>OG Goku was an ugly fat little goblin
No, he was cute
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>"""artist"""
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>>285803728
>>285803679
>>285803693
>What do you get, when you cross, a well respected franchise, with an "ARTIST" that makes it look TERRIBLE, and treats it like TRASH!?
>I'll tell you what you get! YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKING DESERVE!!
>*sound of Toyo getting fired*
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>>285803704
Daipa and Giant Turd Goku look like fucking dogshit KEK.
What the hell happened to Toei.
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>>285803704
>>285803709
>>285803725
>>285803751
Daima Goku is supposed to be younger than Dragon Ball Goku, not sure about GT Goku
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>>285803725
>>285803709
yes he was an ugly stubby little fatso making ridiculous bug eyed faces all of the time, he was drawn to look like a complete goober is my point whereas in daipa he looks completely sauceless with those unnaturally thin limbs and vacant expressions ("muh chibi" cope can fuck off)

>>285803751
i think a lot of the problem comes from them being super autistic about trying to mimick toriyama's modern art style... but i think a lot of fans will agree that that style just isnt a good fit for dragon ball
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>>285803410
I bet you probably love Dub Goku's cheesy "hope of the universe" line too you fucking tourist.
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>>285803742
Kek
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>>285803742
Cope
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>>285803495
>Shape shifting clothes
>eyeliner
How the fuck can someone defend this faggot garbage LMAO
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>Cope
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>>285803841
>dood let's turn UI into just another SS
What the fuck was Shitosucko thinking?
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>>285803029
Toriyama was a generational talent when it came to paneling. And I really mean it literally, there's nobody else who dies it as well as he did.
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Goku did not go on pedo adventures with Bulma, Goku did not become a red monkey, Goku did not fight a skinny cat and dyed his hair, Goku did not go on pedo adventures in the demon realm.
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>>285803812
I was careless with my wording calling him "ugly" but I think we are on the same wavelength.
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>>285803862
But the Grand Tour? CANON
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>839
>throwing rocks in a glass house
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>>285803857
Yup I am of the belief that Toriyama at his prime was the best manga artist of all time, no question about it. I think about how we lost him at such a relatively young age and it makes me really upset. But at the same time I feel very lucky to have lived in the same era as him because I think his name will be remembered for a very very long time.
https://x.com/JordanLDurham/status/1766195742232785004
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>>285803852
He doesn't have an ounce of originality in him.
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>>285803862
Seethe
>>285803882
Never
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>>285803883
I don't normally care about this and I like the manga but I still can't believe Toyo actually traced a capeshit captain america panel.
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>Schizophrenic daipapedo is defending Grand Turd too
The GODper remake and Moro getting announced mindbroke him kek.
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>>285803795
Yes, it unironically made him a better character.
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>>285803923
Why is the new CHADper logo blue?
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>>285803921
Dragon ball and shitposting is our hobby.
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>>285803940
We are COSMICper now.
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>>285803918
>capeshit
We own you
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>>285803918
He has no shame.
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>>285803940
the color of MEN and TESTOSTERONE.
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>>285803936
It made him a bland superman ripoff and was far from what Toriyama envisioned for him.
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>>285803936
Nope, faggot
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What do you call this phenomenon?
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Imagine tracing a WEDDING SPEECH of all things.
ZERO creativity in him.
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>>285804019
>can't write
>can't draw
>become mangaka
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>>285803883
Why did Toriyama approve of this fraud?
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>>285803923
He must be angry since Daipa flopped and got memory holed in less than a year.
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>>285804019
Tracing and plagiarism is based, as is any form of copyright infringement by extension, Toyotaro has my full support
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>>285804071
Faggot
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Reminder that this same faggot kept repeating that CHADro would never get animated and Daipa was going to be a huge success KEKYPOW!
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scholars, i cant stop pissing myself laughing at how hard daipa flopped KEK
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And the few times he actually does try to
do something new, they always SUCK and FAIL.
>>285804042
Crazy, right?
>>285804054
No idea, maybe he was already senile.
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>>285804005
Regression. AT resting on his laurels as he realized he didn't have to put in effort anymore.
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>>285804190
What was the point of her character? She basically fills Bulma's role
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Last post.
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>>285804190
Who is this character? Is it DB related?
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>>285804258
Yeah that's Pan, Gohan's Daughter.
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>>285804258
Just some pedophiliac fan service in the optional moeshit midquel.
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>>285804275
>moralfagging
Back to Shitter, you homo
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>>285804232
They wanted a cute Loli character for Lolicons to coom to. Though personally I think they should have brought back classic Kid Chi-Chi for that.
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>>285804275
>moralchadding
Stay here, you hetero
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>>285804291
Treating cartoons like real children and putting people in prison for fapping to cartoons, overcrowding prisons and wasting tax-payer money is immoral, and hurts real children by burying reports of real child abuse under false reports of cartoons.
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>>285804317
What does this have to do with Daima being a pedophiliac fan service optional moeshit midquel
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>279
Being,against child sexualization doesn't make me a homo, you degenerate child diddler.
>>285804291
Thank you, fellow scholar, I shall.
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>>285804336
Cope
>>285804339
It does, drawings aren't real life no matter how much you seethe so fuck off.
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Ji R. En
What does the R. stand for?
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>>285804358
>It does, drawings aren't real life
What does this have to do with Daima being a pedophiliac fan service optional moeshit midquel?
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>>285804415
Rapist.
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>>285804423
>samefagging
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>>285804415
raped
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>>285804435
They are both equally garbage since daipa traced a lot of Giga Turd including the kid Goku flop gimmick.
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Dragon Ball before:
>Episodes take 4 weeks to make so we can have them regularly
Dragon Ball now:
>We need to wait 2 fucking years until the new anime that will only have 20-30 episodes

What the fuck happened?
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>>285804428
>>285804443
With grey aliens it's most likely the former.
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Cell died from this.
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>>285804435
animation is it's saving grace and
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>>285804484
>>285802063
Man daipa and Grand Turd are such horrible horrendous pieces of trash. Im glad both are worthless and non-canon
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>>285804474
The fucking economy man fuck
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>>285804474
They can't even remaster more than 6 episodes of Super at a time
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Meditate.
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>>285804717
GT is canon, unlike Super.
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>>285804966
This is true.
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>>285804966
Nope. Trunks dressing like a faggot and Goku jobbing by a ventilation fan and building will never be canon.
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>>285805024
>Goku jobbing by a ventilation fan and building will never be canon
>literally never watched GT
Goku was trying to keep a low profile. Why? Becuase one the Shadow Dragon's was trying to find him, so breaking through the ventilation fan would've created too much noise, giving the Shadow Dragon a chance to discover Goku's location.
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>>285805035
No
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>>285804966
Correct.
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>>285804966
>>285805020
Nope, faggot
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>>285805191
Wrong, GrandTacofag
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Man SHITper and SHITper: SHITper POOPero are such horrible horrendous pieces of trash. Im glad both are worthless and non-canon
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>>285805261
NTA and moralfagging over drawings is still retarded and useless
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>>285805310
Agreed.
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Type something so fucking retarded that it shows you have Brian damage. I'll start "Kenchadsukechad"
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>>285805310
Cope
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>>285805411
Drawings still aren’t real life and loli is based so cope, homo
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>>285805446
True.
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>>285805416
No
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>>285805485
Of course
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>>285805550
Yup.
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>walls and walls of textual meltdown
>literally none of it changes the fact that GT and Daipa are horrible
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>>285805571
Drawing still aren’t real life
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>571
Based toaster is based toaster??
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>>285804062
I like his boobs
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Man CHADper and CHADper: CHADper CHADro are such amazing glorious works of art. Im glad both are priceless and canon
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>most of the fanbase think these two are father and son
Lmao. You faggots really don't watch or read the anime
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>>285801989
how did he get orange?
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>>285805768
Something retarded like Shenron unlocking his inner potential or something
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>>285805730
Despite being a "reincarnation " they aren't the same character.
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>>285805768
He’s Epstein’s friend
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>>285805768
He wished for power… and got a little extra…
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>>285805818
Cope, toddlers can’t clean themselves and you are a faggot
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>>285805730
>>285805804
Kami was a Dragon Clan Namek as he created the Dragon Balls, and King Piccolo must have been Dragon Clan as well since he split from the same Namek that created Kami

Piccolo at 3-4 year of age was stronger than King Piccolo in his prime and the fact he couldn't create Dragon Balls must mean he's a Warrior Clan Namkeian.

Daimao was a Dragon Clan Namekian, as he was able to create offspring, something that only Dragon Clan Namekians were able to do.

Piccolo is a Warrior
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>>285805804
being reincarnated doesn't mean you'll end up like how you used to be. Otherwise Uub would be Kid Buu 2.0 right now
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>>285802063
Meanwhile in canon.
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>>285805898
Uub having a little chaotic neutral in him would be cool
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>>285806059
I swear I've seen a colored version of this already.
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Funny?
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>>285803841
>>285803852
Ultra Instinct doesn't suit Goku, he can access it because he doesn't overthink like Vegeta, but he enjoys the thrill of battles too much to remain non-emotional.

Toyotaro did the right thing, unfortunately he used the black-haired incomplete UI form instead of SSB. SSB should be the ultimate forms of Goku and Vegeta, they're not calm nor callous enough for UI and UE respectively.
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>>285806059
And then that one Family Guy scene happens
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>>285806109
Goku is one sick minded fuck!
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>>285806059
>18
Esposa de Krillin.
>Videl
Esposa de Gohan.
>Bulma
Esposa de Vegeta.
>Chi Chi
Esposa de Goku
>Kefla
...?
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>>285806150
Esposa de Cabba
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>>285806150
Piccolo
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>>285803562
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Reminder that in the ToP bonus chapter we finally learn what did Jiren find hiding beyond strength. It was Shart. That is right, Jiren found that Shart was beyond strength to see he started to Shart max and evolve into his brown shartmaxx form to accumulate as much shart ad possible within his round body. After shartmaxxing fpr years he decided that he would shart all over universe 7. A shart so powerful and godly that even Beerus would be too weak to stop it. Thankfully Goku (Our Hero) was there to stop it by fisting Jiren elbow deep so hard in his ass he was able to use his Shart against him. Jiren tried his best to unleash millennia worth of shart but Goku pressed on and with his power fisted Jiren harder and broke his rectal muscles pushing the shart back to Jiren's bowel until it came out of hit mouth. Jiren was forced to eat his own shart as Goku's fist pushed it all back through his mouth. 100000 years worth of shart. Jiren was defeated and was left gaped forever.
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>>285803704
His hair looks like a plastic Lego piece.
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>>285806233
Potata was permanence before the retcon
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>>285806109
>Freiza needing to breathe
>Dragon Ball lore states that Frieza doesn't need oxygen

Hmmmmmmmmm...........................
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>>285806150
Piccolo is a loser with no bitches so a random character was added
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>>285806150
It should have been the black teacher and cheelai on the back
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>>285806259
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>>285802063
I'm da joker, baby
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>>285806326
>seething
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>>285802661
>>285802804
>>285802634
Bejeeta bros, your coping mechanism...
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>>285806326
Piccolo healed Kefla with his Daily Dose during the Tournament of Power.
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>>285806387
I only posted a canon fact.
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>>285806393
He is confirmed weaker than Moro…
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>>285806427
>thinking SHITccolo the jobber was in the ToP long enough until Kefla came out
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I liked Daima.
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>>285806428
No
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"WAKU WAKU!"
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>>285806468
He healed her after they were eliminated.
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Piccolo rocks. I do like piccolo. Piccolo excites everyone to live.
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>>285806491
>lying
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>>285806593
she defused before hitting the bench
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CHADccolo won. His movie did not flop unlike Daima.
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Piccolo prevented Raditz from being a part of the main cast like in my favorite YouTube What-If series. I HATE HIM!!!
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>>285806563
refute what i said then
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>>285806257
>antisemitism
You? BROWN.
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>>285806646
The Daily Dose makes fusions permanent.
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What if Goku had turned good?
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>>285806742
He would the hope of the universe.
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>>285806695
Cope, Burger
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>>285806766
*He would BE the hope of the universe.
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>ESL
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What if Bejita used synthetic oil in his car instead of conventional oil?
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My HEROES made a cameo in a BatGOD comic!
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>>285801989
Jiren is a pathetic jobber. So Orange Piccolo clears easy.

>>285805768
It was the next colour of the rainbow they hadn't used yet.
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>>285806861
is this Damian or some other kid?
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Jiren is the strongest
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>>285806946
>This scene is getting removed from the remake
What's even the point?
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>>285806920
His name is SHARTren the BROWN FART!
He discarded his Jiren name after finding out that Shart was the thing beyond strength.
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>>285806920
…being ever ERASED by Zeno.
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Jiren is invincible.
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>>285807121
... unless he is being erased by Zeno.
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Goku and Bejita are in the latest Batman comic
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Really is insane how much the dub butchered the translation yet shit from it is still treated as gospel.
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>>285807205
Superman and Captain Marvel fused and had potara earrings recently too.
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>>285806861
How much prep time would Batman need to win against Emperor Pilaf?
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>>285807210
>it is still treated as gospel
It's not, literally everyone knows that dub is not really accurate
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Jiren lost to Goku, Freiza & Android 17 btw.
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>>285807210
IT'S OVER 9000!
do the maths of Kaioken and it falls apart
>>285807227
normies think TFS is gospel
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>>285807148
Tanked btw.
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>>285807235
>normies think TFS is gospel
... in my delusions.
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>>285807233
>fight Jiren won
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There's only one character in the history of this franchise who's attained the title of "The Absolute Strongest of the Strong".

SAY
HIS
NAME.
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>>285806109
Freeza Hussein
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>>285807275
THE CHAMP.
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>>285807275
CHADly. He fought with Whis, who RAN away in fear btw.
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>>285807340
WRONG ANSWER
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>>285807275
Emperor Palpatine
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Zly
>Makes Bejita kneel and Goku grab his kid and run
Cuckly
>Goku and Bejita are not afraid and charges him head on because they know he's not that strong.
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>>285807405
Zly
>Dies in 1 hit from SS Goku (lol)
Superly
>Undefeated and unsurpassed
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>>285807405
Superly had to be defeated by an angel-tier Final Kamehameha.

Zly got 1-shot by a casual punch from SS1 Goku
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>>285807449
>Superly had to be defeated
That never happened tho
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>>285807227
The wiki still has pure dubism in articles all the time
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>>285807508
And the "wiki" matters because?
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>>285803495
Brainlets here have never heard of ki generated clothing?
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>>285807532
It's the holy bible of these halls
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Not a big fan of the government
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>>285807560
>ki generated clothing
When was that mentioned in the manga?
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>>285807532
Because it’s considered factual to normies and secondaries? Don’t be disingenuous.
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Zly never let Bejita do any damage to him. Cuckly however is the princes BITCH.
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>>285807657
Piccolo used clothes beam
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Stronger than SS4?
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>>285807705
>one time
>demonic powers
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>>285807670
Show me where the wiki uses blatantly false information from the dub like over 9000 and so on
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>>285807698
>Fight CHADly won
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>>285807772
Nintendo sure loves to trace Dragon Ball.
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>>285807705
SS4 doesn't have magic powers
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>>285802038
>UI = Jiren
Jirenbro...
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>>285806874
>Anonymous
Damian's son after Damian cleaned up Gotham in an alternate timeline. Bruce is a grandfather there.
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>>285808039
Yeah Jiren defeated UI Goku but they were still close
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>>285808009
Nintendo's copying has been pretty blatant lately. They also copied the Tatankasaurs from Genshin Impact in the new DK as well.
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>>285806326
Picollo has no dick and is a species of titless female (lays eggs).
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>>285808083
>buys his grandson a bunch of self-insert Batcuck merch and nothing else
>the kid turns on the TV and just watches DBZ anyway
Kek.
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>>285808123
Nope.
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>>285808039
Jiren won against UI Goku.
But U7 cheated in the tournament
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>>285808092
>they were still close
Kekkypoo
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>>285808009
He fucked Zelda while Link watched btw.
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>>285808138
You are the cuck
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>>285808228
Batkek...
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>>285808009
They refer to Ganondorf in ToTk as Daimao, funnily enough.
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>>285803495
If there's anything nice about Daima, it's that Goku took his shirt off when transforming into SS4.
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>>285808252
That's just a common title in Japanese media, tardbro
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>>285808252
Because it means Great Demon King.
Used in many series and games.
DB didn't invent the term.
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>>285808278
>Japanese moeshit
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>>285802634
Gokubros are too strong.
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>>285808155
>fan art
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>>285808328
Stfu, goalpost mover
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>>285808385
>fanart of canon material
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>>285806257
>"Let me Jew it for you!"
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>>285808399
>material where Jiren won against UI SHARTku
Yup!
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>>285807121
... Unlesss Goku fists him so hard all his shart goes back up to his mouth and his asshole stays forever gaped.
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>>285802038
Why do you talk like that
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>>285808471
... which can only happen in my sick fantasies
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>>285808474
Because Toyotaro broke me.
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>>285808420
Canon btw
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If Goku's power level was actually over 9000, then he would've survived better against Bejita.
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>>285808536
CHADjita would still win
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>>285802634
HAMTAROGAWDS STAY WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>Early DB: Gohan has a great hidden power but he can't draw it out at will because he's never been trained, so that power only shows up when he's angry. With enough training he'd be able to use all that hidden power at will
Ok so after Piccolo's training Gohan is at full power, right?
>Nope, still gets rage boosts


>The namekian elder draws out Gohan's hidden power so that he can now use his 100% hidden power at will
Ok so no more rage boosts, right?
>Nope, still gets rage boosts

>Elder Kaioshin draws out Gohan's full hidden power, allowing him to break his limits. Now there's no more rage boosts, he literally can NOT get more rage boosts
Ok so that's the end of rage boosts, right?
>NOPE, Gohan still gets rage boosts

???
Did no one just stop and think "y'know, Gohan's rage boosts make NO SENSE whatsoever and directly contradict the canon?"
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Hamtaro jobbed to a microwave.
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why was superman a rape victim?
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>>285808730
Gohan's potential grows over time making it almost limitless.
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>>285806068
This isn't canon either. Filler will never be canon
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>>285808730
A Saiyan has no limits.
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>>285808489
... On opposite day since these are not fantasies but reality. I am sane unlike Jiren who was mindbroken since he could not handle Goku fisting so hard his asshole was gaped and his shart went back up to his mouth.
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Only Super is canon
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>>285809072
No
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>>285809072
Yes
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>>285809072
The manga? The anime? The upcoming remake of the anime? The movies?
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>>285809124
Correct.
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Remember when Bejita, Bulma and Piccolo went to a gay bar?
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>>285809209
>Lava Gogeta
How strong is he?
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>>285808039
>speedreader
Jiren WINNED against UI Goku.
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>>285809240
The DRAGON BALL SUPER manga and the DRAGON BALL SUPER anime contradict one another frequently? They may “coexist” in the “same space” but one must “emerge” over the alternative(s)…
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>Jiren got an Omni Zenkai from being erased and brought back
All according to plan.
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>>285809564
>Zenkai
Saiyan only, Jirentard
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>>285809332
Wrong.
His Shart was too weak. Goku made him eat his own shart by punching his asshole. Jiren the Grey became Jiren the Gaped.
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Battered. Broken. Beaten.
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>>285808039
>Posting a fake, edited panel
Jermaine won.
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I hope we get animation this good.
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>>285809315
Above Grass Broly but struggles with Water Vegito.
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>>285809590
Proof?
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>>285809651
The series
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>>285809666
Can you post the panel that says Jiren doesn't get Omni Zenkais?
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>>285809700
I...uh....uuuhh....

I GOTTA GET OUT OF HERE WHILE I CAN

BYE BYE, SUCKER
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>>285809648
Just get a continuous stroke then it'll loo like it,
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>>285809700
Its the same panel in which Goku is elbow deep in his ass punching away all his shart. Jiren thought that Shart laid beyond strength but he was wrong and his greatest shart was turned against him when it flushed back up to his mouth.
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>>285808786
Ok here.
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>>285808786
I wanna fill her if you know what I mean ;)
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>>285809648
>UE Bejita vs Granolah will look like this
Holy FUARK I cant wait!!
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cleaned up this sketch of 18 i never finished
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>>285809648
Idk about all that but I think Nappa has those posers beat
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>>285809830
Cute
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>>285803857
I agree
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>>285809724
>Oolong kidnaps girls and forces them to marry him
>he later gets groped by an old man
Was it deserved?
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>>285809830
>>285809850
Sorry but her eyes are too big and goffy ruining it a bit.
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>>285809956
>goofy
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>>285802117
He is without a doubt the most black character in the franchise.
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>>285810012
Pretty sure that’s Mr popo.
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>>285810006
Made a typo
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Bejita.
A shipping container.
A spooky light.
Chains.
A mouth gag.
Testicle electrocution kits.
Several hammers, pliers, and incision instruments.
Best of Tchaikovsky, Schubert, Pachebel, and Ponchielli music collection on vinyl records.
An antique Gramophone.

DO. THE. MATH.
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>>285810012
>>285810035
No, that's Burter
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/285743709/#285749642
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>>285809332
>>285809607
Even if it was true Goku got several power ups since that, Goku didn't need to fight Jackie Chun again to prove he surpassed him after the RR arc.
No one cares about SURPASSEDren now.
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Android 17.
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>>285810076
Honestly makes more sense than piccolo being black coded
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>>285810264
Yeah
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>>285810051
The Doctor must be the one behind this...
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>>285802063
So these are the famous adventures that Daipa fans are always praising?
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>>285810477
kek
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>>285810183
>passed Ranger School with ease because he doesn’t need to eat, sleep, or expend energy
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>>285810477
We all know you love Daima. You’re the only one who ever talks about it.
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>>285810634
yeah well, when he went all the standards went to shit, MY class was the last DIFFICULT one.
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>>285810654
DAIMA WONDERLAND
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>>285810477
Stop spamming your dogshit MSpaintslop ten times a day, secondary trash.
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>>285810477
I know we all hate Daipa. We are the only CHADS who predicted it would flop. Keep the good work scholar.
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>>285810754
>gagshit
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>>285810477
>This truth gets posted
>Daipapedos go "AIIEEEEEEEEEEEE Leave daipa alone!!"
Funny!!
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>>285810654
>not even Daima fans want to talk about Daima
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>>285810051
PSYCHOku...
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>>285810754
>jobbed to a hot bowl of soup
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I’m just not very strong…
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>>285810754
Stop being mad because you are not talented as me to make memes about the objective truth with paint, feel free to counter me in the paint art.
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>>285810974
SHARTren the BROWN...
Also known as Jiren the Gaped after Goku fisted all the shart he spent millenias accumulating in his ass back up to his mouth.
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>>285810754
Damn dude holy fuck he said you weren’t as talented as he is bro fuuuuck >>285811011
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>>285808155
BASED and saved
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>>285811011
you were countered with objective canon. you are a secondary, go be 12 somewhere else.
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>>285810051
Reminds me of that simmering summer of ‘23
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>>285810866
The case of how hard daipa flopped needs to be studied.
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>>285810477
Notice how he immediately deflected onto the prequel?
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>>285811245
>prequel
Nope
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>>285811230
What’s there to study? Basic case of a surplus. Over supplied something for which to whom had little to zero demand… Mayhaps was an intentional filtering…?
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>>285811245
>prequel
kys
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>>285811245
And he drew a scene that almost happens verbatim in it to prove his """point""" too kek. That is the type of poster we have left here. The halls really are dead
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>>285811604
>the halls really are dead
Moro arc.
>b-but that wo—
Moro
Arc.
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>>285810974
Zly...after losing to SS1 Goku 2 times and snot nosed children who didn't even bother to fuse because you're not a big threat like Fat Buu..
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GODro won.
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>>285811869
>>285811979
I really hope the remake does Super justice this time around. It's clear neither Toei nor Toyo knew how to translate Toriyama's storyboard in a compelling way the first time around
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the remake is too far away, what do I do now?
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>>285811245
>prequel
Live prosperously with yourself.
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>>285810754
>Oolong
>monster
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>>285812042
When in doubt moe time
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>>285812267
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>>285812267
Kek
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>encouraging suicide
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Our heroes Goku and Bejita love suicide.
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>>285812722
My favorite character has never killed themselves.
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>>285812785
I can't unsee her as Buzz Lightyear
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>>285812785
I bet his armpits smell incredible
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What did you say to Goku to make his expression change like this?
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>>285812655
>…is based!
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>>285812955
I won't kiss his wife.
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>>285812955
Chi-Chi is my favorite Dragon Ball woman.
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I'll kiss Goku's wife. I will bear this cross.
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moe.
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>>285813699
…ro arc.
>wuh… wuhhwuhwuwait! That’s not what I—
Moro Arc.
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A Moro is cute too
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>>285802063
Panbros.... we enjoy stuff like this?
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>>285802330
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>>285813872
Fucking FUNNY
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KINO.
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>>285813944
THE DRINK boutta START POURING
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>>285813944
Of course they couldn't let him actually win.
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Question for everyone:

If Goku had went in the time chamber by himself or with Vegeta or Piccolo or Trunks instead of Gohan, who reduced how hard he could train, would Goku have come out stronger and if so would he have been strong enough to defeat Cell or possibly go Super Saiyan 2 against Cell?
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>>285814388
The answer to that question is it doesn't matter as Toriyama simply wanted Goku to lose and he would've done so either way even if that did happen
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>>285807449
>Superly had to be defeated by an angel-tier Final Kamehameha.
Superly gets defeated by a buzzer.
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>>285813944
>retconned fanfiction
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>>285814680
Now this is funny
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>>285814388
Vegeta maybe, I don't think Trunks or Piccolo would've pushed him any harder. And I think Vegeta would've had to go in with murderous intent and actually would of had to try and kill Goku non stop for either of them to get stronger.
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>>285814680
God I hope they at least give him the headband in the remake. Why doesn't he just tear the collar off? Fuck this was stupid. Just changing shit for the sake of it.
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>>285814818
>Why doesn't he just tear the collar off?
Because he was loyal to his father and trusted that collar was on him for a good reason. He didn't realize he was being abused. You idiot. Imbecile. Jiren lover. Gokubro
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>>285814985
Very gay. He is a 50 year old man
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>>285813944
this will be deleted in the remake btw
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>>285803591
It's anime fanfiction (like Daipa).
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>>285814388
Feynman method.
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>>285815058
He's a 50 year old man on a planet of piss with no one else around to give him a different perspective so of course he doesn't grow up and remains a mentally stunted abused child.
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>>285814985
>He didn't realize he was being abused
LOWIQly.
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LEAVE
SUPERLY
ALONE
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>>285815176
>Why doesn’t the guy who was lied since his childhood doesn’t simply break free of his abuse?
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>>285815612
What’s with Caulifla dressed in Fasha/Seripa’s clothes?
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>>285815605
He's a 50 year old retard
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>>285815645
Frieza’s orders
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>>285815705
The pinnacle...
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>she RAN
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>>285816252
Who's this sub-Cell jobber?
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>>285816360
That’s Son Goku after King Kai gave him a haircut.
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>>285802063
like father like son
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Post canon.
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>>285816599
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>>285816562
Vegeta never dressed in drag unlike Tardku.
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>>285816599
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>>285816694
Why are they wiggling like gelatin?
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>>285816599
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>>285816599
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>>285802063
Toei executives are definitely on the files.
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>>285817078
No
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Epstein’s favorite Dragon Ball character? Maxwell’s?
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>>285817252
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>>285817078
Trvke.
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>>285817318
No, faggot
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>>285817252
>Epstein’s favorite Dragon Ball character?
Obvious response but it’s Ma Roshi, or maybe even Gero
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There wasn't a single episode in super that disappointed me. The entire thing was complete GOLD. GT on the other hand
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The harsh truth that nobody is ready for is this: GT took the "mystical adventure" format of the OG series and improved upon it tenfold.
Think about it. The show begins with Goku training Uub, his successor, in a direction continuation of where EoZ left off. New Dragon Balls are introduced that are not only stronger, but have a dark edge to them, and they scatter across the universe instead of just the world. Now Goku is a child again, and he has to go on another Dragon Ball collecting adventure, but this time it has stakes and is much broader in scope.
That broad scope led to early concepts like the Tuffles, the Original Super Saiyan (specifically its form being that of a golden Oozaru), the Androids being expanded upon and fleshed out, as well as giving the broader Dragon Universe a much more lived-in and populated feel. Compare that to Super, where only 28 planets are said to harbor life, and even after the concept of fucking MULTIVERSES is added, the universe still feels as tiny and underutilized as ever.
And then GT ends with Goku sacrificing himself and merging with the very essence of the Dragon Balls, essentially transforming into DB's equivalent of Sun Wukong, the character Goku was originally based on, and his legacy is carried on, not only by Uub, but by Goten, Trunks, Goku Jr., and Vegeta Jr. among others.

GT failed not because of its quality, but because it was conceptually and artistically ahead of its time, and the fans were too young to appreciate it. Everyone knows this now, which is why they'll blindly praise a mediocre cashgrab like Super while putting down GT for "problems" that exist in spades within Super. It's simply a truth they don't want to admit because they're so entrenched in their ways. "GT BAD" was the misguided status quo for years, and people hate change or admitting that they were wrong or simply got filtered.

GT was and is a flawed masterpiece. However, Pan as a character still fucking sucks.
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>>285817513
Yup yup GODper is so good it will get a full high quality remake since it is a gold mine for Toei.
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>>285817513
>There wasn't a single episode in super that disappointed me
Why would you proudly trumpet your crippling retardation like this
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>>285817565
>crippling retardation
But enough about the GTards
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>>285817592
>if you hate this pile of shit you must love this other pile of shit
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>>285817543
>wall of text to defend his failure
KWAB
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>>285817565
But I never proclaimed my love for GT?
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>>285803653
Also apparently Buu was a saibaman? Daima was so weird.
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>>285817649
I don't see any arguments and you're just proving me right. The fact that you consider that a "wall of text" means you're a retarded zoomer that can't read btw.
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>>285817543
>even the staunchest GTard can't defend Pan the worst character in the franchise
KEK.
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>>285817670
“Flawed masterpiece” my ass
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>>285817704
Again, not an argument. That phrase perfectly sums up GT.
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>>285804947
Someone should make a compilation of all the meditation filler scenes through the anime. It's funny how many times it happened. My favorite was Dabura fucking off to the "meditation room" for 4 episodes and everyone has to just wait for him.
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>>285817715
No
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Its over. I lost. No one loves me. Even bread is a better Pan than me
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>>285817649
Where is your rebuttal? We are waiting.
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>>285817752
I accept your concession.
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>>285817704
>>285817770
Here, faggot
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I LIKE dragon ball GT
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>>285817846
I think it's okay if you're really into Dragon Ball but I'll never watch it again.
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>>285817754
Its the unfortunate truth Pan. I can't argue against it in good faith. There's no proof needed
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>>285817754
I would put you ahead of guldo in a most beloved /respected character for what it’s worth. Maybe even tie with dog mayor.
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>>285817846
I HATE dragon ball SUPER
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Should GT remain blocked off from the main continuity (Super)?
I think so. I don't think it's compatible with Super, mostly because it's just very low quality, but also because it's essentially an entire series of non-canon filler garbage.
GT would've been a lot more respectable if it hadn't use Pan as a main character, and instead opted to use Goten in her place. He's a much, much better, and more powerful hero.
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>>285817968
>phoneposting GTkek
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GT is better than daima though
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>>285817969
Yes because it's literally a side story. That's what it's defined as. It's the same deal with the Z movies before BoG. They're essentially alternate "what-if" scenarios.
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>>285817969
>Super, mostly because it's just very low quality, but also because it's essentially an entire series of non-canon filler garbage.
Nice fanfiction, tardbro
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>>285818037
Almost irresponsibly trve
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It's funny to think that GT was once all DB fans had, as a sequel, and now, it's been relegated to Daipa-tier, non-canon filler, only made to fill time between respectable, canon installments.
GT truly is a steaming piece of shit, isn't it? It has no legacy, outside of having an annoying, weak little cunt as part of the main cast, and mishandling its potential success at every opportunity.
Meanwhile, Super actually has a good legacy, and is still getting content as we speak. The difference really is stark, isn't it?
>>285818037
Yes, and GT was a particularly bad "side-story," with nothing good to its name, outside of a form that has already been memoryholed in favor of another piece of shit "side-story."
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>>285818085
>Super actually has a good legacy
Slow down
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Reminder that Gonorrhea Turd is a noncanon flop which hasn't gotten any new content for literally decades kek.
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>>285817968
Here's GT SSJ4 Goku in the Z Gi in offical art.
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>>285818037
Trvke.
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>>285817968
>so mindbroken by CHADper’s success that they traced its memes >>285817628
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>>285818334
>the solar flare is a Jiren summoning
Knew it
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Could Broly and Goku fused together beat Whis?
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>>285818415
No. They wouldn’t even beat Moro (forced spirit fission)
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did bringer of death really just end on chapter 109 on a cliffhanger? is it time to end it all?
>>285818415
we've never seen whis use his full power so it's impossible to say how strong you need to be to beat him
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bojACK
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>prequel
Still getting brand new content to this day. Especially after their complete fuckup with the sequels, They came running back to it, KWAB.
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hey, it’s me goten!
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ENTER big green
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>>285818552
>>prequel
Nope
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ENTER freezypop
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>>285817968
Why is Dr. Gero blue?
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>>285818506
El SSJ10
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>>285818676
Too much viagra in his circuits
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>>285818557
ENTER
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>>285818770
Pan could use a few [dozen] cousins.
Goten is mountainchinese btw.
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>>285817543
I don't think people really minded GT that much conceptually, it's just the execution where GT struggles a lot.
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>>285819170
>it had lots of potential when it was conceived, but ended up being worthless garbage
Sounds like Pan! Kek.
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Why couldn't these fools give us at least a few seconds of animated Moro arc to tide us over?
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>>285818842
What is gaping out of Cell’s pantalones?
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So Android 21 still isn't canon? Only Vomi?
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>>285819270
It’s going to be canceled and forgotten like daima season 2 most likely
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Why is GT such a piece of shit? They didn't even bother giving it memorable characters, like the Unabomber. Was GT intentionally bad?
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>>285819270
They can't even remaster more than 6 episodes of Super at a time, you are expecting too much
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Generally people like the things GT had. You can see the popularity of stuff like SS4 and Baby and Gogeta in other media like the videogames. It's the actual show itself people don't like that much. SS4 Gogeta again, people fucking love him, he's always depicted as a god in the games, they have never missed with SS4 Gogeta. But in the actual show he's too much of a clown, barely animated, and the big bang kamehameha is a weird attack that just kind of flashes some light at Omega.
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>>285818506
>did bringer of death really just end on chapter 109 on a cliffhanger?
That one edgy fanfic where Bejita becomes a Super Saiyan on Namek instead of Goku?
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Jiren won

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