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I miss Carrot
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humiliation
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A.
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Tail.
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drunk ramblings
>Loki transforms into hybrid form. He pushes Imu hard, eventually cornering Imu in a random spot surrounded by ragnir's ice.
>Loki is just about to do the final blow until, suddenly, Imu is nowhere to be found
>it turns out that Imu transformed back into base form in order to avoid that attack. Before Loki could react, he gets hit by a devastating attack from base imu (who is stronger apparently) before falling down.
>We get to see the face underneath the veil before Imu goes to meet Gunko (the ice should've melted by now)
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I's not about humiliating or whatever, I'm just saying that fights have been very short lately. It's clear that Oda is rushing things and/or he doesn't want to draw long fights anymore.
Loki/Luffy vs Imunko was less than a chapter, same for strawhats vs Gunko, Killingham's fight was off-screened, Gaban only lasted 1 chapter before being written off and so on.
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>Imu has horns. No Devil has ever been portrayed to have horns! He must be an ancient giant!
>Imu has wings. No Devil has ever been portrayed to have wings! He must be a Lunarian also, somehow.
>No, Imu is totally not in some kind of transformed state using some kind of Devil Fruit power, even though we could see him literally transform, TWICE
>Yes his Devil's Fruit power behaves exactly like a Mythical Zoan, with both a hybrid and full beast form, but it's totally not! Because it gives you abilities, which no other Devil Fruit ever did!
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>>287522102
You rang?
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>>287522273
Imu is dying and on a timer, this is him doing the bare minimum he needs to do in the most efficient way. It's an exercise in restraint not a big dicked chad unloading a nuke on a fly just because he can.
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>>287522417
Because Imunko wasn't meant to be the main fight of the arc. And the other fights you mentioned weren't supposed to last that long anyways (those were pre-Omen HKs anyways, Sommers and Killingham are foreshadowed to have a rematch with the wings). This is the main battle of the arc. Loki is gonna be the "Yamato" in the sense that he will hold off Imu long enough for Luffy to chime in.
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I mean obviously, there's no point for him to cough up blood if not to establish a limiter. That being said i don't think he's dying, I think the surface air is straight up toxic to him
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>>287522542
The Elders were all saying "no you can't go to the surface, you have to stay in the castle", and the castle is the single-highest point in the world, so all I can think is if he has some kind of supreme devil fruit then it's not enough to avoid the ocean, he has to stay as physically far away from the water as possible
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>>287522450
Well yeah Wano had big and long fights but the point is that we didn't have any since. Egghead didn't have anything noteworthy, the Saturn and Kizaru fights that people were looking forward turned out to be complete nothing burger, same for Zoro vs Lucci.
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Maybe. But the Elders likely know that Imu isn't at full strength right now and needs "something" to achieve that. I think the battle against Joyboy left quite a mark on Imu even if the WG won the war.
I can also see this >>287522585 being true.
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>>287518076
imu got speed blitzt by stansen dropkick to hajurin
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Squeak? Squeak!
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>complete nothing burger
Egghead wasn't meant to be a "fighting" arc though. That's why all the battles were quite brief.
Even if Imu has to leave due to a time limit, we are certainly going to have a battle for multiple chapters.
>tribal
It doesn't look very much like a "king" to me honestly. Maybe that theory of this being Davy/Joyboy's corpse is true.
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>>287522615
it is kind of a nice juxtaposition that up until now Imu had this "regal" air like modern castle, the gorosei in suits, a pretty little fuckin flower room and a dainty little robe and crown
very victorian or whatever
but now when he actually appears in the world he looks like he's from 3000 years ago or a completely different culture or planet, very barbarian-looking and tribal as you said
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>>287522682
both joy boy and imu are inspired by african culture
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>>287522689
Imu is from the Void Century though. People back then didn't dress like barbarians, we saw that picture with Lili who still dressed like a queen.
The clothing that we're seeing is probably just part of the transformation Imu is using. Like how Luffy goes all white.
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Oda's wife's pussy must be too good.
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Was Imu overdesigned?
Did Gerd deverved that?
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Lil pup tried to kick the king of the world, kek
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Have you seen that Imu does not have nipples in the current chapter?
He can't be god-tier without nipples. For comparison, 70% of Whitebeard's aura comes from his powerful, dominating nipples.
My only conclusion from this is that base Imu MUST be a woman.
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>Imu is from the Void Century though
or maybe earlier
we know he was a founder of the WG, could've been around looong before that
>People back then didn't dress like barbarians
right that's consistent with Oda's style is that just because Lili wore a normal dress that means everybody during the void century dressed exactly the same
it's not like different cultures tend to wear different oufits in this fictional universe, how silly of me
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On a scale of 1 to 10, how much will Toei suffer trying to animate this motherfucker? Cell was bad enough and they already struggled a bit with the Gorosei, this is like Oda putting a gun to their head.
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>>287522782
>Was Imu overdesigned?
No, his design isn't even much busier than Kaido or King
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No but it is what is, it's Oda's way to generate fake tension without killing anybody
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>>287522816
Holy fucking based
Based
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Imu needs a hug
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Eostre soon
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>does not have nipples in the current chapter?
since when were nipples important? many characters don't have them
>My only conclusion from this is that base Imu MUST be a woman.
then why is oda showing us man Imu first?
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MY FUARKIN HEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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When they cut Gerd's fingers I thought this was going to get really dark and set a new stage for the end game of the series.
Why won't Oda up the danger level a little bit? We see it all the time in backstories?
Imagine
IMAGINE if he came in and killed or seriously wounded a strawhat. Just like that. No buildup.
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>The consequences of Oda not making Imu a woman
if oda had done that then people wouldn't have cared about the design as much. Look at how much fanart hes getting lately. The fujos, spics, casuals all love 'em, anon.
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Zoro and Sanji just don’t have the quality and quantity of Haki required to fight someone on Imu’s level. Given the chapter title its possible the black flames Imu’s emitting and attacking with are pure, concentrated Conquerors Haki on a level we haven’t seen before. This kind of skill and power is likely only attainable after having become so acclimated to using Conquerors that you use it to fuel every attack and every movement.
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Someone draw Blackbeard with the Imu powers/form.
It will look hilarious (and might even be lore accurate).
>millions of foids cry out in pain
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One thing I've found interesting is how reserved has Imu been with his power. He didnt cut Gerds head off, he cut exactly the 4 fingers holding Sommers. He didnt attack anyone until Hajrudin went for him in which case he got rid of Stansen, Zoro and Hajrudin quickly and dashed away. He got rid of Gunkos ice with a flyaway attack and then only one tapped Sanji who attacked him. Which makes me think hes either just reserved on general and doesnt care about anyone on the island that isnt named Loki or Luffy. Or his time limit gets affected by whatever attack he uses. If he uses some insane island wide slash, maybe his time limit gets shortened the more high end attacks he uses so hes sticking to easy shit right now
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finally we have a cool protagonist back instead of goofy
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>>287522972
>i don't like it when others do the exact thing I would have done if Imu were female
Kek, you deserve to suffer, hypocrite
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>>287522972
One Piece has always been Luffy being pit against big men. He didn't even fight Big Mom, lol.
If Imu was actually a hot woman it wouldn't work that well.
Still, he's kinda zesty wearing feminine veils and playing with butterflies. Like wot.
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>>287523088
Luffy will never fight full power Imu.
Prove me wrong.
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>>287522984
A bit but mostly he has his own made up pronouns that convey he lived centuries through fifty pronoun systems at least. Which might seem like a lot but in japan really isn't.
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>>287523054
Hes literally moving Kizaru and Kuma esque but hes just moving that fast, not teleporting or anything. Pretty wild considering how hax he is which means hes absolute top tier++++ in physical skills too
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Why does nobody listen to Jinbe?
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The worst part is Zoro is likely never gonna even get his getback against Imu because Zoro will NEVER be stronger than Imu, EoS or not.
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>>287523148
>Hes literally moving Kizaru and Kuma esque but hes just moving that fast, not teleporting or anything. Pretty wild considering how hax he is which means hes absolute top tier++++ in physical skills too
No shit. You couldn't be at the top nor win the ancient war just through hax.
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>>287522378
> Loki is at least two tiers above Roger who was pirate king level
you are smoking crack if you think loki is above roger
like genuinely go take your meds
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What is more likely:
>Blackbeard beats Imu before the final battle
>Blackbeard sneaks Imu during the final battle after he's exhausted
>Blackbeard fights luffy before the final battle
>Blackbeard teams up with luffy
>Blackbeard marries Nico Robin and they have 20 kids
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>>287523161
Young’uns always think they know better than their elders
Jus’ gotta let em touch the fire so they finally understand fires hot, no other way they learn
*siiiiiip*
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>-sei
so? Its not a pronoun so much as a title. Carrot was also "King" of the mokomo dukedom. Anyways idk why there is this overreaction. I just said that his silhouette looks like its wearing some sort of long gown like a funeral or wedding dress. Christ.
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looking back the last 3 arcs
name the worst page and best page
Elbaf as of now
>Worst Page: Robin reuniting with Saul
>Best Page: Rocks Pirates last stand with Xebec, Kaido and Whitebeard
Egghead
>Worst page: between Bonney goes Nika or Luffy vs Lucci in Manga
>Best Page: Life of Kuma
Wano
>worst page: between Luffy seething about Oden story, Roger pirates glazing Oden and probably even Yamato "Oden was a guy right? so I became one"
>best page: Toko coming to terms with Yasuie's death in the festival
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>>287523041
>his time limit gets affected by whatever attack he uses. If he uses some insane island wide slash, maybe his time limit gets shortened the more high end attacks he uses so hes sticking to easy shit right now
It could be that yeah. But I also like the idea that he's just the type who only retaliates when attacked. It could be a hint to his backstory and to why he has no issue enslaving and slaughtering pretty much anyone. As fucked up and ironic as that sounds.
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Lmao
Loki literally defeated HK Harald who was a tier above Roger. Normal Harald was relative to Rocks who was also relative to Roger. Oda has very clearly portrayed Loki to be FAR stronger than Roger, anon.
Imu HIMSELF had to show to deal with fucking Loki. Compare this to God Valley where Imu only used a vessel form.
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Thats the thing frying me right now. Imu’s Haki is clearly inferior to Joyboys, yet its so powerful its beyond the understanding of everyone present (with the possible exception of Loki)
This shit is RIDICULOUS
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>>287523217
Maybe not now but Loki has way more potential that Roger or Rocks or any of the old gens. Hes the modern version of this dude
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Monster Trio needs to lock the fuck in and stop treating Haki as this thing they use only when the fighting gets serious. Its clear to me rn that the only way you get Haki on Imu’s level is if you’re constantly using it in fights, no matter the level if the opponent. Imu’s likely using concentrated Conquerors for everything ranging from projectiles to enhancing his body’s speed and defences…everything. Hell its possible theres a whole Conquerors Observation skill tree the Straw Hats are completely unaware of.
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>inb4 it's revealed he tried and left a normally mortal wound in the EXACT same spot Joy Boy did 800 years ago, and Imu is defeated by Luffy dealing the final blow in that spot as Imu's mind flashes to Joy Boy, then Roger, then finally seeing Luffy and realizing DESTINY PIECE was real and how all this inherited will bullshit was his undoing
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Hajrudins sexy thick thighs and sweaty armpits
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It doesn't matter if Harald did it or not. Loki was kicking his ass even before Harald regained his mind. Read that chapter again. Loki was JUST about to kill Harald with the hammer before Harald told him to stop.
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>>287523221
>>Blackbeard marries Nico Robin and they have 20 kids
this one obviously
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>>287523217
You are soo fucking stupid and Illiterate LMAO
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For those who still think Loki is going to join the crew.
He is obviously going to be Elbafs new king.
They lack leadership and strength. Something Loki embodies in both. And they'll need someone to lead them in the final battle.
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Ok which is more likely as a conclusion, /a/
>Imu is the final boss
>Blackbeard is the final boss
>Luffy and Blackbeard actually team up to defeat Imu, then the manga pulls a S-Cry-Ed and has them fight after anyway because there can only be one Pirate King
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The only reasonable guess is the castle, I think. Maybe he's supposed to make sure nothing happens to the summoning circle. What else is there? Not killing Jarul or kidnapping children, since he literally just left them, not helping any other Knights since Imu did it himself.
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Gaban is disgusted by Zoro and Sanjis incompetence. Luffy’s the only Straw Hat who’s been seriously trying to level up his Haki, while his two BUM right hand men barely even know how Armament and Observation work
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>Elbaf
worst: gunko intro
best: "IDA IS MY ONLY MOTHER", Imu reveal, Shamrock and Shanks walking through the holy land
>Egghead:
worst: traitor reveal
best: landing of the gorosei
>Wano:
worst: Yamato intro
best: Luffy and Zoro hug
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Will the bludmirals keep worshipping the devil or go their own way?
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Hybrid form next chapter
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>>287523506
>worst: gunko intro
still mindbroken huh
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>>287523469
yeah, is one of those "have your cake and eat it" sort of things where Oda wanted to give an epic moment but have it not even mean anything like Luffy freeing Ace made for a good feel good moment but it was undermined by not only that Ace was going to die anyways but to die in one of the dumbest ways we ever seen just to have him die anyways, in the long run it would've been better for his tragedy if he were never freed at all
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STOP!
You CANNOT post here unless you can get past THE Kaido! Are you still willing to pick up the gauntlet...?
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>>287523472
Definitely not the last one. That worked in Scryed because neither Kazuma nor Ryuho were bad people or even had opposing goals, they were just 2 hotheaded men who fucking hated each other for petty reasons and needed that final duel to settle their mutual grudge.
BB is actually a bad person, there's legitimate reason for Luffy to beat him.
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>>287523472
For me either Shanks or Buggy or both are the final boss.
I'm not joking. They're the guardians of Roger's legacy. Shanks was the first pirate Luffy met, Buggy was the first major antag. They will be the last people to fight and convince the one piece belongs to Luffy.
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>>287523506
good choices, I have said that Loli didnt really have good build up against Imu however his characterization was good with his vengeful heart put in the right place is where he does have good character conflict while fighting Imu feels forced since there wasnt much to build to that feud, like Shamrock has more heat ve Loki
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The full eyelash set and dick sucking lips makes me think the same.
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What is Zoro thinking here?
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Kizaru is gonna remain loyalish but sad to the end, and then job to and get killed by Blackbeard in a Darkness vs Light fight before the Final War. First Admiral to die.
Aokiji is pretty mysterious, but I think he's gonna try to betray Blackbeard, but ultimately fail and get beaten. He'll survive to the EOS
Fujitora already goes his own way, and will go against the WG during the Final War when the time is right
Greenbull is literally a character created to job to someone, either Koby or Sabo imo, maybe the Straw Hats or some other pirate like Law, hard to tell when and to who he's gonna fall, but he's gonna fall, and hard. Greenbull will stay loyal to the CD's and WG to the end, and might become a Holy Knight beforehand if Oda wants to go that route. He'll either die or get life in prison EOS
Akainu will lead the Marines in a full on rebellion against the WG and CD's. Fate unknown, but I'm betting he's gonna sacrifice himself during the Final War for some important reason and turn the tide of the war.
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I want to kiss him (straight btw)
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Not really. Luffy's been very conciously trying to level up his haki since WCI. First by trying to mimic WCI, then he used he was trying to learn CoA on his own in the mines which is what Hyo noticed before taking him as his pupil. "When the student is ready, the teacher appears".
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He’s the only Straw Hat to be a combatant and nothing else. He has no other role besides fighting…Sanji can be somewhat excused for neglecting his Haki, but Zoro not being proficient in the main fighting style of the New World is fucking abysmal. This woulf be like if Sanji could barely cook anything more complicated than scrambled eggs
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Everyone, calm the fuck down and pull that 90 inch dilldo out of your ass. There's a good chance Oda forgets something the moment he is done publishing it. Just sit back and let the keys jingle.
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If you were Gunko, would you let the fellas....
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>He’s the only Straw Hat to be a combatant and nothing else. He has no other role besides fighting
Nta but is he not the First Mate? It's his job to make sure everyone's on the same page as the captain, which is why he said what he did at W7 about how the captain can't show such weakness to the crew.
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Well it's not easy to create heat with a guy who never leaves the house and whose name you don't know but still left your island in search of for years but after this chapter I think it's as good as done anyways.
The feud with Shamrock always struck me as shallow personally though. Feels a bit like Luffy vs Akainu or Sabo vs BB. The characters involved themselves care a lot less than the fanboys, who are convinced they will fight eventually, do.
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>>287522756
Yes he did
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>>287523756
Hes fairly feminine looking anyway, look at his face mate >>287523702
Hes buff and pretty fucking physically imposing though which contrasts his cute looks
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>>287523531
>Fujitora
Will obviously betray, he has not a shred of loyalty to the WG.
>Kizaru
Will probably betray, he already sorta did on Egghead.
>Akainu
Might betray, he's a pragmatic, but hard to see how he justifies listening to Imu the more he learns.
>Ryokugyu
The biggest enigma. He's a cocksucker as far as we know, and I could see Imu making him a Knight if Marines rebel... but who knows, he might have more depth. Kizaru also looked like a psycho with no morals early on.
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another thing
man the shitty sattellite plot really doesnt remotely hold a candle to the CP9 reveal
>so theres these masked men holding robin hostage
>wonder who could it be
>most people assume these are new characters like another kind of Marines
>Lucci revealed to be an agent was very shocking yet it made sense looking back seeing how be was always strong enough to overpower Luffy
>it being revealed that he isnt a mute but can speak gave him a menacing and mysterious aura like what else is this guy hiding
>Kaku revealed to be an agent was genuinely heartbreaking since a lot of us wanted him go be a joiner since he was such a good guy, funny and cool, yet he is unfortunately on the other side
man it was so good
this goes to show that the best mystery boxes ate the ones that didnt jingle so much that tells you it was a mystery box, rather than HEY SOMEONE IS A TRAITOR THINK ABOUT IT, that being said Kanjuro traitor thing was also done much better than York and ages better in a reread
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nah that's stupid.
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Idiotic take. Ace's death was more of a tragedy because his personal flaws contributed to it. Even after he was freed there was no functional reason to write it like that, you could have Akainu just catch up to Luffy and Ace jump in-between them. But tying it to Ace's inability to let go was the whole point.
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Did Imu forget that they tried to make Dorry and Brogy the new Kings? Why did he ask them this chapter who was the King of Elbaf?
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>Blackbeard will get Imu's fruit
>World Government will have to suck him off or all the elders and knights die
>he'd control the Seraphim, probably find a way to age them up to full power
>Marines would probably rebel
Going to be a full shitshow.
Realistically, I had this theory that got me deaththreats. What if Seraphim Mihawk is stronger than the original? What if that's who Zoro ends up fighting. A stronger Mihawk. And something happens to Mihawk before the end.
Because right now I can't see a situation where Zoro and Mihawk duel for 12 chapters without the story pacing being fucked.
But yes, this did cause death threats.
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>The Sasuke
Glad you finally admit it, pissbro
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No it won't. Mihawk isn't his last opponent. The whole point of Zoro becoming WSS is so that he can support Luffy in his quest to become Pirate King. It was even implied in Baratie that Zoro VS Mihawk will happen before Laugh Tale.
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>Imu had Killmonger scars
I'm think he is african coded too bros
it only makes sense being an inversion of Nika which was also based on an african slave deity
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That's not what I was talking about. I was talking about S-Hawk being stronger than the real Mihawk (which is just ridiculous).
>Nobody commenting on Jarul possibly recognizing Imu?
What? Anon, Jarul doesn't know who Imu is. That reaction was more of "shock"
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He doesnt recognize him.
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>>287523994
A few of us have noticed it, but there's not much to talk about that one panel right now. Jarul definitely has a mysterious past though that I think we will explore, especially regarding the "older women" comment from him. Some of us have speculated that Nefertari Lily is still alive and lives up in the Heaven Realm of Elbaf, and that's who Jarul is in love with.
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>you will never get Luffy vs. Imu at full power
>you will never get Zoro vs. Mihawk
>you WILL get Luffy vs. Blackbeard
>you WILL get Zoro vs. S-Hawk
>and YOU WILL BE HAPPY
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>Source?
Baratie arc.
>Why wouldn't S-Hawk at full potenteial be stronger than Mihawk?
He lacks the haki. Mihawk has at least Shanks level haki and his title of WSS means he is narratively above any other swordsmen character. Even if S-Hawk has better physical stats and awakened DF, his haki won't be at that level until the story is long over.
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KEEKAAAAAROOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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>>287523971
The emperors are insane, namely Big Mom and Kaido. BM alone slaughtered how many islands just for her tea party. Kaido's slavedriving puts the WG to shame. Nevermind the even more ridiculous sea circumstances. The emperors are definitely at war with each other, it's just that it has been a while since they've met face to face. Paradise was fleshed out better in it's world building. It also doesn't help that Luffy and his crew are logic-defying freaks who pretty much have the godly constitution to plow through anything
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Doubt its Lili unless shes being possessed or something.
>for some little sword fighting?
Funny since Imu isn't a swordsman. I think that weapon is a naginata.
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>>287523262
elbaf:
>worst: any of the at least 3 times usopp has spammed skull grass bomb to no effect, please god bring back my spunky underdog with infinite crazy tools in his belt
>best: mural, loki reveal, imu reveal, and rocks/roger/garp etc. vs. saturn-mu, in that order
egghead
>worst: satellite deaths, most either died before we got to know them at all (shaka, pythagoras) or had actually decent sacrifice plays that OF COURSE became nullified later as always (atlas, kind of edison)
>best: gorosei full reveal, life of kuma, joyboy and emet (I really like emet)
wano
>worst: literally any panel with yamato except maybe when she's fighting kaido, carrot and wanda being useless even in sulong, the only non-cp9 cp0 agents doing jack shit/not even getting named in-manga and dying/leaving, 2 random zero-emotion deaths while kin'emon got one of the best potential deaths in series history only for it to be a fakeout, carrot being BIZARRELY shoved into solo duchess role bc oda flip-flopped on doing something real with her, 90% of the post-onigashima stuff being rushed and awkward for that matter (oops this turned into another wano mini-rant)
best: honestly hate oden all you want but the last shot of him in the pot holding his dudes up was cool, Roger Laughed, most of g5 especially before 'lol really bigger punch than ever before is what wins in the end'
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>>287523829
i tried.
at the end i made two dots of the original chest visible to look like nipples, and it gave me a laughing fit. i am a simple man
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>>287523702
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>>287518076
The HQ scan clarified the scene with Zoro actually reacting and blocking one point blank Omen
>He got up 10 second ago when chopper call him and tell him to go inside the building
BIG Zoro UPSCALE
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>>287524431
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>>287523805
The satellite plot was just embarassing yeah, for all the reasons you said but not just that. Telling the audience there's a traitor makes you expect you can figure them out by paying close attention to the manga, detective story style. But acktually LMAO JK JK that's literally impossible because Oda didn't put that much effort in.
Why tell us then? So fucking pointless. At least he had the sense to wrap this shit up quickly with an ellipse and have the gorosei land so we would forget.
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>>287523837
>nah that's stupid.
>what do you want? The world
>Rocks when he sees Imu "that's the world"
>BB has been shown to be able to take over devil fruits and was specifically looking for the yami yami no mi
Can't make it that much more obvious anon
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>please tell me is edited
It's not, but Imo it's good enough. The LA had to get through a LOT this season in terms of special effects.
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>>287524431
Wow you can actually see it hit his sword
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>>287524562
Luffy isn't fighting the same powers twice. And this is assuming that he'll even be alive by that point to do it since pretty much nothing suggests he'll be alive after laugh tale arc. Also the yami cannot affect you if your haki is stronger. Devil fruit powers can be resisted if someone's haki is strong enough. Its why Law's abilities weren't too overpowered.
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At this point, Sanji and Chopper need to invent some sort of super food tablet that Luffy can eat or something. I understand the reason for Luffys constant exhaustion is to give otehr characters a spot light, but its getting played out a bit.
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>>287524526
He didn't got hit in the head so he actually reacted and blocked one of the three shot
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>>287524524
another reason why CP9 reveal wasnt just a shameless mystery box built to for intrigue is how there are many things that distracts from this being a mystery to begin with
>The usopp and merry fallout plot
>Franky seeming like the main antagonist seemingly causing that fall out
you wouldnt even care to find out who were the masked men with robin while these things were going on
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>>287524169
I know I would if I were Imu
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>Sanji
That boy is dead lol
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>>287524210
>She was his nanny, anon. Not a sexual relationship.
What was he supposed to do about it, tell her to stop flashing her soft,cute butt to him ?
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>Luffy isn't fighting the same powers twice.
Says who? He fought lucci twice.
>Devil fruit powers can be resisted if someone's haki is strong enough
Awakened devil fruits haven't been shown to be subject to haki resistance since Law could use it on big mom
And the Katakuri fight clearly showed that haki drops with exhaustion
Blackbeard has never been a safer bet as final villain than right now
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>First characters of the show that face Imu
>Imu use a named attack on him
>He actually deflect it
>He got up a page later
STRONGro
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>you wouldnt even care to find out who were the masked men with robin while these things were going on
That's exactly what happened to me lol.
I hadn't paid attention to the Galley La shipwrights (much less the fucking barman) at all in the first place so when they unmasked themselves I was like ah, oh yeah, those guys, haha, I totally remember you (no)
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>>287523805
Kanjuro is the only proper mystery in the series. Most stuff is either obvious, you figure them by meta-narrative reasons, or are inherently impossible to figure out because you lack crucial information. But with Kanjuro, if you sat down and just wrote down who knew what and at what point, you were left with him.
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>Says who? He fought lucci twice.
Was Lucci the main villain of Egghead? No he was not. And it was barely a "fight" since Luffy was absolutely stomping him using Gear 5 lmao.
>since Law could use it on big mom
No. That was because that attack was negating her durability.
>with exhaustion
So?
>than right now
Not really since there is no reason for me to believe he'll be alive after laugh tale arc. If he is then maybe. But its not as clear as you think it is. He also lacks scale and portrayal.
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Imu is a shadow. That is a body she is possessing and it gets warped to have her face, just as oars was warped to have Luffy’s powers by the shadow he was given.
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I agree it was done well, my point was how shameless the sattellite traitor plot was with it being a cheap mystery box for the sake of intrigue while Kanjuro rewards a reread paying more attention to him with subtle things like drawing with his off-hand and attempting to sabotage missions in plain sight
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Only proper mystery maybe, but comparatively very lackluster caracterization.
>oh yeah i've just always been loyal to orochi I've never cared about you guys even though I've spent 20 years with you my heart has just never wavered lol
Like cool I guess but care to elaborate a little? I mean why not but for me that's a bit short and unrealistic, human heart wise.
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>>287524864
We will see this when DocQ uses his disease.
>"Women are not waker. I will honor my childhood friend and fight in this form!"
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>>287524813
We have seen Imu at Thriller bark, huge because she is a shadow. And we have seen shadows possessing bodies around One Piece, having souls, and a will. And they are trapped to the main host they were born with.
But that means… shadows can eat devil fruits.
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>>287524842
The thing with Kanjuro is that he considered himself a dead man ever since he was a child. Everything he did with Oden, Kinemon and co. was just going through the motions. My personal biggest issue with Kanjuro is that he got three different death scenes and his final one was by far the weakest.
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If you're talking about the Florian Triangle monster, we don't know that that is yet. It can also be another ancient creature.
>And we have seen shadows possessing bodies around One Piece, having souls, and a will.
So the silhouette is Nerona Imu's body being possessed? That's cool. I have a different theory in mind but not bad.
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>>287524624
Imu needed multiple "Omens" to put Zoro down
Or,
Zoro blocked 1 or 2 of the "Omens" then got hit by the 3rd one and was taken down by that singular one.
Either choice, Oda portrayed Zoro differently, as per usual.
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>>287524813
Pay attention to how regeneration works on the holy knights and Gorosei. It’s the same with Moria’s shadow Luffy fought.
Even in this scene, Saturn is reduced to a state of shadow before being further reduced into a skeleton.
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>Was Lucci the main villain of Egghead?
And Imu won't be the main villain of an arc either so it's all good
>That was because that attack was negating her durability.
Ok, what about Kidd assigning her then? Should've been easely negated with good old haki. Unless you consider his haki was just that far ahead of Law's and on par with big mom's
>So?
What do you mean so? If Imu is tired, even if there is a haki difference between him and BB, exhaustion will make up for it allowing BB to shut down his df
>He also lacks scale and portrayal.
Bro what
He's been one of the few consistantly making moves in the background. You had him sending his crew to copy an elder last arc which is definelty leading to a big plan. He has nepo piece now with Rocks and the "One day I'll be back"
Portrayal is clearly ramping up to him taking out Imu
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That is more likely to represent his "soul" being taken away, anon. We know that Imu basically revoked his contract and took back the immortality.
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>Carrot wants to explore the ocean and be a pirate
>gets confined to Elephant Zookeeper status
Why didn't she just say no? There are like 100k other furries to do the job.
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>And Imu won't be the main villain of an arc either so it's all good
The hell are you saying? That is stupid. Imu is the bad guy here and after the timer is up and Luffy is defeated, there will obviously be a rematch since Luffy will want revenge. The WG will be fought during the Final War which is a few arcs away and this was meant to be Luffy's first encounter with Imu. Just like how he met BB at Impel Down.
>Ok, what about Kidd assigning her then? Should've been easely negated with good old haki.
Big Mom is a bad example because she didn't use ACoC once during that fight. A better example would be Sugar. Doffy is scared shitless of Kaido. But why would he care if Sugar's touch can no diff him? Because Kaido's haki can resist it.
>exhaustion will
That is assuming a lot of things. You're assuming BB will even know or fight Imu at that point as well as that Imu will be fighting him alone. Again, this is all assuming he'll be alive by that point in the story which is very doubtful. Also nobody apart from Luffy is going to defeat the main villain of an arc or saga. That rule is never going to change. Even if someone like Momo had more emotional reasons to beat Kaido, he still didn't do it. Luffy did. Same with Doffy in Dressrosa even though Law had more reasons to.
>definelty leading to a plan
Yeah to steal the Seraphim using Saturn's authority chip
>nepo piece now with Rocks
lol you are using that term unironically? I'm surprised.
>Portrayal is clearly
That's not what I meant. He is simply far below Imu in terms of overall evilness, scale and threat. The WG have always been portrayed to be the overarching antagonists in the story. And pretty much every single bad shit in the manga has occurred because of Imu one way or the other. BB doesn't come close in terms of evilness or anything else. Hes just "lesser" really.
He has personal beef with Luffy sure, but so does Akainu. But personal beef doesn't mean final villain. That was never a requirement.
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>Why didn't she just say no?
Candy dick was just good. Made her and Wanda want to settle down and be family women.
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>>287525299
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>this was meant to be Luffy's first encounter with Imu. Just like how he met BB at Impel Down.
Luffy may fight with Imu again, but it won't be the end of it and Blackbeard will be the one to get the final blow 100%
>Big Mom is a bad example because she didn't use ACoC once during that fight.
Yes but the argument was that Law said he couldn't move her because of her Haki on the roof yet Kidd was able to assign her later on with his awakened fruit. So either Kidd's haki>>>>Law's haki or awakening bypasses the haki restriction thing
>You're assuming BB will even know or fight Imu at that point as well as that Imu will be fighting him alone
No I don't think that. I think that Blackbeard will jump Imu when he is weakened and he will get the final blow and stil his devil fruit. He may not be the one to weaken him beforehand but he'll definetly finish him off.
>l. Also nobody apart from Luffy is going to defeat the main villain of an arc or saga.
Then that just means Imu won't be the final villain of said arc or saga
>Yeah to steal the Seraphim using Saturn's authority chip
That would be too low scale imo especially considering that another elder could just cancel the order.
>Yeah to steal the Seraphim using Saturn's authority chip
I mean almost every figure of the new gen is tied to figures of the old gen. Blackbeard saw the horrors of god valley, has the entire davy thing and has been planning this for decades.
>He is simply far below Imu in terms of overall evilness, scale and threat.
Sure, for now. But the second he gets Imu's fruit, he's the strongest in the world.
We know rocks was looking for several devil fruits. We know rocks wanted to take down Imu. We know BB was ready to spend his life as wb's crewmate until he saw that fruit and knew his time has come. We know he can take over other people's devil fruits. It just lines up too perfectly anon.
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>final blow 100%
Nah that is too anticlimactic and not Oda's style. Its the exact same shit as ZKK. Luffy will always be the one beating his opponents to the end.
>Kidd's haki > Law's haki
Law doesn't have CoC nor much haki feats so its not impossible. Still, I don't take that fight very seriously since it was BS from the beginning with BM not using conquerors.
>of said arc or saga
That makes no sense. The WG is obviously having its own arc so that they can be taken care of. Just as BB will get his own arc at Laugh Tale for his crew to be beaten. These are separate things. You can argue BB gets beaten afterwards but saying that he'll be beaten in the same arc as Imu is just ridiculous kek. Both of them are too important antagonists for that.
>cancel the order
No they can't. Remember Egghead? Other satellites couldn't cancel it once York gave that order.
>planning this for decades
Just because a villain has a plan doesn't mean they will succeed. To date, Enel is the only villain who has ever succeeded. Kaido wanted a world war but he failed, Luffy stopped him before he was close to achieving it. So following that logic, BB gets beaten when he tries to nab the One Piece before he ever gets close to beating Imu. Similarly Imu won't ever succeed with the world flooding plan since Luffy will beat them before that.
>strongest in the world
I wasn't talking about power levels though? I was talking about pure scale in a narrative sense. He is simply far less significant in the overall story than Imu who was responsible for pretty much every bad thing in the manga. The entire fucking Void Century ended with the WG flooding the world. That is simply something BB can never really get close to. He'll never be as evil or "threatening" (not in a power level sense) than Imu. Its about scalae, anon.
>We know rocks wanted to take down Imu.
Funny you mention that. Hes too different from his father honestly. There is a good chance that he didn't inherit his will even.
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>Luffy will always be the one beating his opponents to the end.
Big mom was the big villain of WCI and luffy wasn't the one to defeat her
>The WG is obviously having its own arc so that they can be taken care of
I truly don't think so. They'll be taken down in the final war arc but they won't be the main focus.
>You can argue BB gets beaten afterwards but saying that he'll be beaten in the same arc as Imu is just ridiculous kek.
Both gonna be the final arc imo. But BB is 100% going down after Imu, not beforehand.
>No they can't
Fair enough on that point.
>Just because a villain has a plan doesn't mean they will succeed
True but BB has been set up for much longer and his plan has been part of his character for just as long. And besides, his endgame is the world, not just beating Imu. If he loses after taking Imu down then technically he's still fulfilling that formula.
>He'll never be as evil or "threatening" (not in a power level sense) than Imu
Blackbeard is a self made man. We've been seeing his rise to power parallel to luffy. Of course he couldn't start at the same level as Imu because that's not what his character is about. Where Luffy wins through bringing people to his side and uniting them, BB wins through plotting and underhanded means. Those are 2 different ways of tackling the world /Imu question and both will be relevant by the final arc. And by having a hand in ace's death, he's already much more of a threat than Imu ever could be to luffy unless he kill a straw hat or something like that.
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>>287525840
>Big mom was the big villain of WCL
She wasn't, anon. Katakuri was. Big Mom was more of a "force of nature" like the bird cage in dressrosa.
>But BB is 100% going down after Imu, not beforehand
I don't have a problem with people believing this but I do take issue with saying he'll beat Imu and not Luffy.
>plan has been part of his character for just as long.
Whilst true, you can also see this as BB not succeeding simply because he lacks the same mindset as Luffy. He cannot properly utilize Joyboy's treasure in laugh tale as he wasn't the man Roger was waiting for. And his crew are also foreshadowed to betray him since they are only in it for their self-interests, not out of love for him. So really, BB succeeding would kinda go counter-intuitive to this since you'd be rewarding his mindset. That doesn't sound very right to me. Its similar to how Luffy crushes the dreams and mindsets of all his previous arc villains.
>And by having a hand in ace's death, he's already much more of a
Yes but personal hatred doesn't mean final villain. That was never a rule in shonen. Naruto never cared much about Madara or Kaguya, Ichigo cared more about Grand Fisher than Ywach, etc. And Akainu is hated MORE by Luffy for that kek, there was that scene in Fishman Island which indicated that Luffy despised Akainu even more with the way his scars react. Imu doesn't need to kill a straw hat, that's not the point. Imu already has all the portrayal found within the existing story and the void century.
BB might be related to someone from that period, but that doesn't make him nearly as evil as Imu or whatever. Nothing he has done or can do will ever get to that point (again, not talking about power levels here). Hell, Doflamingo, Enel and Orochi are arguably FAR more evil than Blackbeard lol.
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>She wasn't, anon
Yeah she was. Katakuri was introduced at the 11th hour as a way to train luffy and show what a yonkou's first mate could do. He certainly wasn't the big villain of WCI.Hell you could even argue he was also a victim of Big mom and luffy promising to come back and beat her one day was proof of that.
>ut I do take issue with saying he'll beat Imu and not Luffy.
Maybe luffy will beat Imu. But he certainly won't kill him and so long as you don't kill him, how do you break the hold he has on the world? Blackbeard will be the one to do it.
>ut I do take issue with saying he'll beat Imu and not Luffy.
Sure, when they have their final clash luffy will win but no one else will.
>And his crew are also foreshadowed to betray him since they are only in it for their self-interests
Some are, but not all of them. And besides, if he gets Imu's fruit, he can just domi reversi then all into submission.
> Naruto never cared much about Madara or Kaguya
And neither of them was the final fight, Sasuke was.
>Ichigo cared more about Grand Fisher than Ywach
Kubo retconned kushina's death to put the blame on Ywach rather than Grand fisher.
>And Akainu is hated MORE by Luffy for that
That could be a valid argument but Akainu has had no presence post time skip at all. He's done nothing to be deserving of the spot of final villain. And although he put down ace, he's had no connection or interactions with luffy before or after marineford
>but that doesn't make him nearly as evil as Imu or whatever.
But it's not a matter of evilness. Blackbeard has the setup to do something huge. He has the connection to luffy. He has the connection to rocks. He has the drive and more than anything, he has the means. There's just no satisfying way to wrap up his character other than for him to take down Imu, especially after the rocks flashback
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>Yeah she was. Katakuri was introduced at the 11th hour as a
Not exactly. He was introduced mid-way through the arc and was the brains of the group. He was also the one who quickly organized everyone when BM was yelling.
>on the world?
But its meaningless since BB will "rule" for like, what, 5 minutes? And then getting beaten just like that is just a lame way for him to go kek. He doesn't REALLY become king of the world since he didn't even rule anything. And again, very lame for Imu to be defeated by anyone who isn't Luffy. Its why Law didn't beat Doffy or Momo/Scabbards didn't beat Kaido despite having more reasons to. Also Luffy did kill Kaido until proven otherwise.
>Sasuke was
Sasuke was a rival and deutoroganist lol. Nobody thinks hes the final villain that is just ridiculous. He was an anti-hero, at best.
>spot of
Never said he would be final villain but hes definitely going to encounter or clash with Luffy in the future. Oda didn't make him kill Ace for no reason. And Luffy still remembers his scars. Also Luffy doesn't think nor talk much about BB either.
>There's just no satisfying way to wrap up his character
There is. He'll be the final obstacle for the One Piece. That is a perfectly good way for him to be defeating. I don't see the problem with this.
>rocks flashback
Just because he is Rocks' son doesn't mean he is like his dad or inherited his will. If anything, Loki is more inclined to do it and fulfill Rocks' will. He is barely anything like his father and inherited will doesn't pass through bloodlines (luffy inherited roger's will, koby inherited garp's will, etc). So we don't even know if BB has the same will as his father.