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let's begin anons
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>>288406433
>Look in my eyes, what do you see?
>The cult of personality
>I know your anger, I know your dreams
>I've been everything you wanna be
>Oh, I'm the cult of personality
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>this is a destroyer of nations
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these walls are extra weird. it's like they replaced nip cobblestone foundations with concrete and used it as facing for an 1890s palace thingy.
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>>288406772
HOLY FUCKING SHIT I have never ever seen Rimuru having such an utterly malicious and sadistic expression. It's like inflicting suffering on Gobta is what brings him the most joy of out of anything he had ever done including his previous life. Totally deranged in a different way from committing war crimes or "soul crimes", but still deranged nonetheless.
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Haven't seen the episode yet. Did they include it?
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It's funny humans talk about killing Rimuru like it would solve all their problems and would put them on top of the food chain, when there are other Demon Lords, who are presumably stronger than he is at this point.
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>>288407082
what about the
>well, i could give her veldora if shit hits the fan
face?
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>>288407380
is she the cutest yet!?
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isn't this izawa shori?
also, i can't believe dark elves were wasted on the likes of clayman. too opulent of a lifestyle, good he died.
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>How do you plan on dealing with Veldora?
>Uhh, trust the plan *mind controls*
Does she actually has a plan?
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Clayman revenge anime adaptation when?
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>>288408972
>Devolved
This is peak media and more series should evolve into fictional geopolitics
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>>288408972
The truth is the entire story is just tons and tons of board meetings because the author is an ex office japanese and that's all they know about life.
The first season doesn't seem like it because it's setting up characters/t he world
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>>288406709
She killed billions
>>288406719
When you think about it, greed is just stupidity with extra steps.
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Okay, I know the world and nation building wasn't that strong before but what is this retardation. They're saying both of their societies comprising millions of people are basically already peacefully communist, lmao.
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>>288410713
What about her other features though?
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>>288406785
If anything I think the concept of her power is poorly thought out and presented. I'd say its less dangerous than Masayuki's (his power concept would seem to totally warp reality), and sure you can say that maybe it won't affect the strongest players directly, but if it affects literally everyone else what are you even supposed to do about it? Go one by one and undo it?
Well never mind I guess I already know the answer to this. Raphael will solve it.
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>>288410810
This make me want oni sexo, but this >>288408952 make me want oni wife and ten kids.
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>>288410830
Because she is at her most threatening when she is in her element which is to take her time to slowly scheme behind the scenes.
But against Rimuru she has the problem that he is encroaching on the Western Nations and if Mariabel waits too long it will be checkmate and she'll lose the position to even fight back at all. Time is on Rimuru's side.
So now she is forced to break away from her usual MO and take an all-out gamble, which is why her new scheming might seem "less refined" than before.
Though she has quite a big additional problem because of Glenda still being alive (reminiscent of the situation of Myulan against Clayman) and giving out all the information she possesses puts Mariabell at a massive disadvantage in her information war against Rimuru. Mariabell was overconfident in her Greed Skill and the consequences of that are now unraveling themselves one-by-one starting with Glenda.
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>>288411173
>overconfident in her Greed Skill
>>288410987
>the concept of her power is poorly thought out and presented
basically, everybody gangsta until your enemy has an ultimate skill (or 3+1)
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>>288411173
Problem is unlike earlier, nothing Rimuru does at this point feels earned. He has too many powerful allies, and that's not even starting on his bullshit AI tulpa. So there is no satisfying logic to her mistakes or unraveling, if anything you almost wish she would still end up at least hurting him in some way (and have less of a 1-dimensional villain motivation behind what she's doing).
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>>288411297
That's non-sense. Any long-running story that prioritizes "feeling earned" all the time will ultimately devolve into a shitty "level-scaling" loop (not just limited to MUH powerscaling but also political/social capital, etc.) that just turns it into trash because in order to always make things "feel earned" you'll inevitably have to dilute all previous accomplishments retroactively, as any gains and advantages cannot be long-term since that will lead to this situation here where success that is persistent and lasting makes it impossible for the MC to be the eternal underdog fighting against all odds forever to ""justify"" any successes in a ""relatable and empathetic for the average person"" way.
It's a zero-sum game. You have to choose what you want to prioritize.
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>>288411477
As much as people bitch about Rimuru having it easy, a competent OP MC that makes full use of his cheats to accomplish his goals is so much better than an incompetent retard that refuses to use his but wins anyways through plot armor.
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>>288411524
my bad
switching tabs is bad while watching anime
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>>288411568
even the plan to reverse the trap wasn't Rimiru's kek
i wish Raphael would assume direct control so we didn't have to hear the dumb Japanese twink ramble about curry or whatever for the thousandth time
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>>288411355
The breaking point was when he awakened as a Demon Lord and got his full fledged AI and a pet primordial demon. I'll grant him Milim and Veldora (though freeing the later was of course the result of Raphael handwaving), because he at least befriended them honestly and early in the story.
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>>288410830
She's in a body of a little girl so her powers arent as strong. She has no experience of real monster threats and she wasnt born in the modern technological times. She in general has no concept of the dangers she's taking on just like any normal person that has never seen monsters
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>>288411521
nta but anon, of all novels, slime is very guilty of 'level scaling'.
wolfs beaten? ok ogres appear. ogres joined? ok orc lord. oh look gazel. oh look milim and air shark. oh look hinata fucking sakaguchi.
meanwhile politically: oh look goblins, oh look dryads lizardmen and orks, oh look gazel, oh look elmesia, oh look the western council was actually controlled by these 5, oh loo-- OH FUCK THE EMPIRE.
it's a constantly escalating game just like shounens, and one of the weakest points it.
>>288411568
yeah he has complete magic control, the concept of gluttony and an insane supercomputer for any use. nowadays he also has spirit energy casting and hosts a casting network
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>>288411521
>in order to always make things "feel earned" you'll inevitably have to dilute all previous accomplishments retroactively
You have a point but that's essentially still what's happening now, just very poorly. All these episodes "building up" Maribel and larping that she is a credible threat for that reason.
The logical thing to do with the story at this point would be having Rimuru play more 4X games and politics, more big stakes battles, but unfortunately he's a retard and has to delegate all strategic and intellectual activity to his AI.
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>>288411568
Rimuru is overreliant on Raphael, but he is not overdependent on her. Seems like the same thing at first glance, but the distinction still matters a lot.
Fortunately the anime is finally showing one of the scenes of Rimuru being a schizo which it had skipped over in previous seasons.
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I will say, at least the best part of Rimuru going braindead relying on his AI to handle all big matters is that we get prime dressing up and goofing around with your friends kino. Doubt this can beat the fucking around in the dungeon with Milim, Veldora and Ramiris arc but its still fun.
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>>288411696
Rimuru already having everything he needs to take on the new enemy is the opposite of diluting all previous accomplishments retroactively. If anything, this is reinforcing them by showing how much of a threat he is.
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>>288411754
>Both Raphael and Diablo are things he earned.
The story would objectively be better without those two. Milim and Veldora are fine to be insanely overpowered, because the way they're written they're forces of nature that have to be tard wrangled constantly. Its always fun and satisfying to see interactions with them, and how their relationship grows.
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milim sex
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>>288411651
>wolfs beaten? ok ogres appear. ogres joined? ok orc lord. oh look gazel. oh look milim and air shark. oh look hinata fucking sakaguchi.
Are you retarded? That's not "level-scaling". Quite the opposite in fact. Rimuru runs into others in a way that is not stably progressing upwards just enough that he can beat them in that same arc. It's all over the place or jumps straight up to a level that he couldn't handle.
First enemy Rimuru fights is the Black Snake (Tempest Serpent). Everything and everyone he fights after that (other monsters in cave, Direwolves, adventurers in front of Dwargon, ants chasing the baka-trio, Ifrit's salamnder summons) are all actually weaker than the Tempest Serpent. Only Ifrit is stronger again. After that he fights Gelmud who is weaker than Ifrit again, and then it's the Orc Disaster that's stronger than Ifrit.
But then things escalate and Rimuru has to fight Gazel who, if he was serious, would wipe the floor with Rimuru (at the time) if he went all out with Earth Spirit Fusion that would make him as powerful as Hinata when she uses her "fairy armor". Then it's Milim's turn who is in the Top 5 strongest of the multiverse. Rimuru also gets in a stalemate against Charybdis despite two armies supporting him (GS was also completely useless for that fight, btw). Then he undertakes the adventurer exam fights (skipped in anime) easily, even while holding back, then fights two one-shot fights again (Sky Dragon and Elemental Colossus, both comparable to Orc Disaster) and then Hinata. After that he one-shots the 20k army and then at Walpurgis it's Milim (round 2) and then Clayman who is between Orc Disaster and Charybdis in power. Finally Hinata round 2. At that point he is removed from fights almost entirely And despite running into Gelmud-tier enemies like Gaiye/Reiner he is naturally distanced from them due to his position. It's even more all over the place if you included OVAs/OADs/movies in the chronology of fights.
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>>288412150
>rule
Rimiru didn't even want to rule a tiny goblin village, let alone the continent. He's just sort of thoughtlessly and heedlessly warping the economic balance of the region, and it would've been a lot worse than it currently is if he didn't have much smarter people to devise controlled distribution of disruptive technologies for him. Just his mass production of High Potions could've completely destroyed an entire industry all over the western continent if it was implemented as he originally intended.
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>>288410987
>Well never mind I guess I already know the answer to this. Raphael will solve it
>>288411568
>Rimiru is almost entirely dependent on Raphael to autopilot the "tough" matters
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>i wish Raphael would assume direct control so we didn't have to hear the dumb Japanese twink ramble
Geez Clayman, can you give a break and stay dead? Let me remind you that Raphael is always glad to help. And if you argue that she has no choice, she will, and she will choose to continue helping Rimuru.
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>>288411754
Actually, they aren't. But that is in of itself not a bad thing.
Diablo follows Rimuru just for being who he is, it just took a random summons for Diablo to latch onto, though the 20k massacre is what enabled Rimuru at the time to give Diablo a body that he can use permanently. But following Rimuru simply for being Rimuru is a key characteristic of Diablo to begin with and he gives an additional angle on how Rimuru deals with that type in his ever-growing cult of personality.
As for Raphael, it was Great Sage acting on her own to fulfill Rimuru's wish. This is something that people often seem to forget but Raphael isn't just some plot device, she is a character of her own who likewise has her own development.
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>He's just sort of thoughtlessly and heedlessly warping the economic balance of the region
That was true up until the Falmuth invasion. After that any time Rimuru talks about just "fumbling into it by accident" is just a straight up lie. You didn't seriously buy that, did you? Well I guess in the anime it was not made clear enough, but the LN shows Rimuru having monologues about the exact things that everyone mentioned in this episode and is now just trying to act all innocently about it.
Remember, we are talking about the guy who DELIBERATELY turned Falmuth, now "Falmenace", into his own puppet government that is being led by his loyal subordinate Youm.
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I find it hard to read Maribel because she comes off as a highly competent and intelligent schemer, yet she's basically playing out her hand exactly like the Kingdom of Falmuth. Only with a lot less reason to be confident. In the Falmuth incident, Rimiru wasn't yet a demon lord, there wasn't a whole lot of reliable information about him. It was reasonable, though perhaps short-sighted, of Falmuth's leadership to assume he was a mere upstart that could be defeated with enough planning and several secret weapons brought to bear against him. And to Falmuth's credit, they spared no expense: they deployed basically everything at their disposal to destroy Tempest and Rimiru. The formidable wizard Razen, the isekaijin trio they had summoned, they fully leveraged their connection to the Western Church and got Temple Knights and a Holy Field cast over the city to weaken the elite monsters to a level they could handle. Falmuth was confident of success, but they didn't hold back at all, they used pretty much every resource they had, and had the aid of Clayman behind the scenes, too.
Compared to all that, Maribel just has her ultimate skill, Greed, and the resources of the rich and influential Rozzo family. Her political and economic influence is immense, but in terms of raw power, she has considerably less than Falmuth did when they picked a fight with a much weaker Rimiru, who was relatively unknown at the time so they had less reason to be afraid of him. But now, Rimiru is a demon lord, he is publicly acclaimed as a demon lord by the other demon lords, and is allies with several of them. He is widely known to be the only thing keeping Veldora in check. He has the friendship and military alliance of several western nations already.
I just don't see any basis for Maribel's confidence. It is starting to come off as sheer ignorance and foolishness.
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>>288412574
>her ultimate skill, Greed,
she wishes it was ultimate. then it would actually have a chance of doing something to rimuru.
(it would still be blocked by raphael and dabbed on thanks to rimuru's mana levels)
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I already basically surmised that Greed has a 0% chance to work on Rimiru. Mostly, it's just a skill that will make trouble for him by mind controlling other people. But like 90% of the usefulness of that depends on Rimiru not being aware of the mind control, or if he is, not knowing who is behind it. Now he knows Maribel has mind control abilities, and moreover, that he can break them easily. So what was perhaps her greatest personal advantage is now gone.
It seems like her current plan is to blow up Rimiru and Milim with an unstable reactor or something, but that also has like a 0% chance of working. I can't see any reason Rimiru couldn't just Beezlebub the reactor, and I doubt there's an explosion capable of killing Milim, or even hurting her seriously. We've never seen her sustain anything close to an injury, and have seen her launch attacks that obliterated mountains. If Milim could be killed by what amounts to a nuclear bomb I'd be shocked.
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I think Rimiru just really, really hated Falmuth for what they did to Tempest, and specifically, to Shion and the others who were killed. He hasn't shown any inclination to subvert other nations, just Falmuth specifically, because he didn't even want to try coexisting with that country after what they did.
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That wouldn't match the current information from the anime where Mariabell clearly states that her "hidden secret weapon" is something that belonged to Milim in the past. The city and its reactor on the other hand belonged to elves.
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>>288409160
>fictional geopolitics
George was ahead of his time
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beginning of season 3 after rimuru comes back from walpurgis, Hakurou comes back from the castle and talks with Rimuru. he tells rimuru about the dark elves and "gravekeepers" and the ruins. Rimuru says he wants to see them himself at some point and dont tell anyone else about them until then.
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>>288414149
you mean you haven't rewatched all the good meetings even once?
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this show has been pretty well produced so far. even though theyre outsourcing a lot of work, the people at the top seem to want to make this show. going back over season 2-3 even covid didnt wasnt as bad to the show as I remembered.
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As for Falmuth, they could have easily won if it weren’t for the fact that they made basic mistakes and had bad luck.
>Lack of proper military communication, if Hinata had been informed that the troops were under attack by Rimuru, she would have quickly returned to help
>Poor intelligence and reconnaissance relying on just one person, they didn’t realize that powerful characters were outside. They didn’t know what weapons Tempest had at its disposal (they didn’t have any at the time, but they could have; for example, the knights’ attack could have been stopped by a man firing a machine gun from a window). Similarly, the Isekajin could have fallen victim to some purely physical weapon.
>Soldiers crammed tightly into the camp, with no trenches at all. And yet both sides possessed, and knew the other side possessed, magic equivalent to modern bombs and artillery
>Strategic locations (crystals) were not manned by soldiers capable of holding off a stronger monster even for a moment
>Lack of contingency plans, or even a simple Plan B in case something went wrong
>General underestimation of the enemy and overconfidence
And I’m sure there are plenty more examples that could be dug up.
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A nuclear bomb has a rather nasty characteristic: it generates a very strong, brief burst of electromagnetic radiation of various wavelengths traveling at the speed of light, as well as particles traveling only slightly slower.
According to “our” laws of physics, there is no way to actively defend against this, because information cannot travel faster than light. This would, for example, make it impossible to absorb the blast before it reached you, no matter how much time was slowed down. You would simply see it only at the moment of impact.
Only strong passive protection could save him.
And even if he survived, there’d be no chance of absorbing the heat wave still traveling onward because he wouldn’t be able to catch up to it.
He’d have to use some techniques that break “our” laws of physics.
The same applies to Milim and Veldora, except they probably doesn’t know anything about absorption, so they might survive on their own only because they are tough.
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ultimate skill uriel has complete control over laws, as long as you can articulate and imagine exactly what you want to achieve and pay the price in mana.
raphael has at least 1 million times accelerated reactions and can use uriel in that time scale.
he also has pre-made uriel based defenses like le 'absolute defense' that no sells disintegration (equivalent to nukes in universe).
overall not so bad.
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radio waves aren't going to hurt any kind of meat, radio waves react mostly with metal and meat doesn't have a lot of that. The flash burst gives more than enough time to activate defenses, perhaps after burning a few hairs. The fireball is easy to tank or outfly. The hurricane wind is harmless to any half decent monster.
So far the only real threat is the neutrino and gamma burst, which is deadly to organic tissue but otherwise low impact. Like, you don't get slammed against a wall by a gamma burst. Any sort of passive defenses tuned to these dangers would have no problem deflecting it.
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Kono gaki..
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glendeeta, my daughter. you must choose.
donburi, chaahan, or spaghett.
if you did the needful, you may also take the hambaagu with sarada.
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but thats kinda what makes her kind of a cool antagonist she wants to play the game even though shes literally insignificant in the eyes of the demon lords shes fighting who can just brute force destroy her
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>>288417571
It’s not just Japanese, it’s in every single media that has firearms and action scenes with firearms and unless that production company actually goes out of their way to either watch competent shooters shoot their guns, watch trainers giving their shooting lessons or hire said trainers to train the actors and actresses if it’s live action, it will always resort to people not knowing how to grip a firearm correctly and especially with handguns or rifles with optics.
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That is if you can find her, if she wasn't retarded enough to be making such big moves. If she had any sense she would just stay in the shadows, not care if Rimuru seemingly takes over the west, but continue to brainwash everyone she can. If he doesn't know they're brainwashed, then he can rule the world not knowing Maribel is hiding in the shadows and directing events, planting suggestions in the minds of everyone else.
But of course Raphael would know, just as it knows everything else.
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Hinata couldn't get involved so easily because she didn't just represent the church globally, but also Lubelius. At the time the church could only get involved in the invasion with their local branch forces of Falmuth. As Falmuth was already acting in a way that was dubious then if Hinata got involved with neither declaration of war by Lubelius, nor an actual "God's enemy" decree by the church, then it would give Dwargon the justification to intervene and it would become a true "international incident".
Any intelligence and reconnaissance would have been intercepted by Souei's group. If anything Falmuth was lucky that they didn't do it properly because else Rimuru might have loosened his "rules" right then when Souei would ask how to handle "human spies" before any barrier was in place. Besides, how were they supposed to find out if there was anyone strong there? No outsiders even knew about the Orc Lord evolving into the Orc Disaster and even if Yuuki/Damrada/Clayman leaked info about Charybdis to Falmuth, it would just be a long-distance recording with few details about how Tempest/Dwargon combined forces fought Charybdis to a stalemate and only Milim being able to deal with it.
Falmuth's actual fighting power would have been their Legion magic that would have actually made them able to fight Tempest even without barriers on equal grounds, so they didn't really need a "contingency plan" for the barriers being destroyed, and even that was only at all possible because Rimuru managed to come back and create a hole in the barriers to bring forth enough forces to deal with them. Then Rimuru's Megiddo was made exactly to counter the Legion magic and there would certainly not be any "plan B" against that.
Ontop of all that Yuuki actually fed Falmuth false info because he expected and intended for Tempest to still overall win the war but with Rimuru most likely dead, but no one knew about how much Rimuru's initial "3 laws" would initially inhibit Tempest.
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What about these two?
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>>288419590
What are you talking about? That's a nice and friendly Slime train, just like how pic related is a nice and friendly Slime Absorption!
Are you suggesting otherwise?
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Does the IRL "stability" even matter to superhumans (Damrada) who barely even register the recoil or who (in Glenda's case) have a supernatural auto-correction when shooting alongside the ability to create portals for their bullets?
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it has a very FF6 feel
not the phantom train but the concept art magitek armor
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So how far will these first two cours (24 episodes) get before the break? There are still at a minimum 2 episodes left for this arc/volume, so let's assume they wrap it up with episode 10. We'll have 14 episodes left. I have 4 scenarios in mind:
>14 episodes just for Hero Awakening arc
>10 episodes for Hero Awakening arc, 1-3 episodes for the direct aftermath from Eve of War arc, 1-3 episodes as "special episodes" (e.g. Lakeshore dyed red incident, etc.)
>10 episodes for Hero Awakening arc, 4 episodes as "special episodes" (e.g. Lakeshore dyed red incident, etc.)
>7/8 episodes for Hero Awakening arc, 6/7 episodes for Eve of War arc
The problem is I have no idea just how far they want to go with all 5 cours of "season 4". It would be absurd if it ended on a cliffhanger in the dimensional fortress. That would have been like ending season 1 on Rimuru being "killed" by Hinata or on Rimuru finding Shion dead. I don't see how that would work. I guess they could do it like season 1 and end it right before Rimuru goes there but then we'll have one of the biggest climaxes of the story in the first few episodes of season 5. But if they rush through to that moment itself then... well, it will be rushed as fuck.
I guess one way it could work is having the 3rd cour be used for a spin-off cour again like they did in season 2 with Slime Diaries, so we could get Slime Diaries S2 or perhaps Trinity in Tempest or even the vacation spin-off. Then the remaining 2 cours could comfortably cover the Eve of War arc and the Empire Invasion arc.
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>But it's also clearly the train that, like, the bad guys would use
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We desperately need season 2
https://youtu.be/r6FE0ZFzCPM
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>>288415924
>The flash burst gives more than enough time to activate defenses, perhaps after burning a few hairs
Not when the bomb explodes a few meters from you.
If any active mechanism could help, it would simply be the detection of radiation from fissile material, indicating that there is something there that is most likely an atomic or hydrogen bomb.
If this were not noticed or were ignored, the last option, without bypassing "our" physics, would be to detect the detonation of a detonator made of explosive plastic (difficult, as one would have to detect the weak radiation it emits, or perhaps more likely, the radiation of an electrical pulse in the wire leading to the detonator) and intercepting the bomb before the charge triggers the atomic bomb, which in turn triggers the hydrogen bomb. Because this is the longest portion of the time interval between applying the pulse to the detonator and the release of all the energy.
We’ve seen a similar feat recently when Rimuru blocked a pistol bullet from a distance of just a few decimeters. Here, it would be similar, except that the reaction time would be several times shorter due to the plastic’s high detonation speed.
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>>288424220
No, it’s enough for him to disrupt the triggering sequence, for example, by breaking the bomb with something more or less magical (the radioactive debris would have to be cleaned up afterward, or not, if he done it super precisely).
Although, he could easily just absorb it and neutralize it.
The detonation speed of plastic is only between 8 and 10 km/s, and pieces of heavy uranium or plutonium have to accelerate and travel to the point of impact.
That’s a very long time compared to what happens after critical mass is exceeded.
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>>288424220
Someone might try to kill him that way, of course in combination with a very powerful magic suppression.
Basically, it works on a similar principle to Megiddo, only much more complex and powerful.
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>>288424179
What about releasing some short but high-power impulse in higher number of dimensions?
It could work but only when fired as a beam (no energy loss) or nearly point blank explosion.
Energy decreases with distance raised to the power of the number of dimensions in which it propagates minus one.
For example, we live in three dimensions, so energy will decrease with the square of the distance (ignoring interactions with air, etc.)
Or on a piece of paper, i.e., in two dimensions, “energy” will decrease linearly with distance.
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>>288424934
I don't believe he's actually under Maribel's control. Simply because we have seen the limits of Maribel's power, and it's not impressive, whereas we have not seen the limits of Yuuki's power, or even any real demonstration of his abilities. It would be supremely underwhelming for Yuuki's abilities to be kept secret this long only for him to be so weak that Maribel can control him. I find it more likely Yuuki is, if not on Hinata's level, is at least significantly above Maribel's.
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>>288420105
>That is if you can find her, if she wasn't retarded enough to be making such big moves.
I find it doubtful Rimuru and his minions wouldn't be able to find her if she acted in any significant way at all. Even without Raphael I doubt Diablo or Rimuru's spies wouldn't be able to find her. She could probably just lie low and not do anything, in which case she'd be able to evade him, though in this case he wouldn't have a reason to go after her in the first place either.
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>>288427133
comes with the territory
reading the wiki (to understand shit that happened but not in the anime but is still referenced as if you should know it because they just assume you have obsessively read the manga and light novel) there are so many times i read a name and just sigh
it just happens so much in japanese media that pointing out or making note of every time it happens is a waste of time.
i hope(cope) that the next generation of japanese authors realise this and do better.
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>>288427398
i hope shes a raspy bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvwNXNJqg3U
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>>288427471
You can already listen to her acting as "Blanc" in either the gacha or at the end of the third episode of the Coleus Dream OVA.
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>>288427605
Here's the bit where you can hear a line from each of the 3.
https://youtu.be/LP_QYCthjxQ
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>>288428064
I find hilarious how Rimuru himself is oblivious to that fact as well as how impossible that would be for anyone else. Not to mention how absolutely insane of a flex that would look like for anybody in the know. I can just picture him attending the next Walpurgis escorted by them. I mean, just imagine the looks of disbelief on the demon lords faces.
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>Hinata
>sexual tension
She has all the warmth and personality of a block of ice hewed out of a primeval glacier. She would have a significant advantage over Rimiru's other female admirers given that she shares a common origin with him, being originally from Japan, and also having a strong connection to Shizue, but there's like no chemistry with them. Better chance getting sparks off the primeval glacier.
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>I most wonder what Guy would think about it
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>>288428590
Names are not free though. It´s like a contract, the master takes the life threatening risk to increase the vassal´s power but in turn that power must be used to serve the master with absolute loyalty. Furthermore Rimuru foodchain ultimate skill deepens this relationship even further. In exchange for Rimuru´s powers and gifts Raphael gets absolute control over those powers. Meaning she can turn them on and off at will. Primordials and even Veldora are no exception. Off course doing so may irreparably damage the vassal´s soul so it´s a last resource but generally speaking once a monster accept Rimuru´s bargain he becomes their daddy and they all have to obey.
That said they are all essentially eternal/immortal so they are probably fishing for purpose and entertainment and don´t mind the cost.
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That´s probably the power of the pact speaking. Servitude doesn´t feel like a burden or obligation for him but to be absolutely fairDiablo knew about Rimuru well before he was actually summoned and had been anticipating his arrival.
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>>288429439
>That said they are all essentially eternal/immortal so they are probably fishing for purpose and entertainment and don´t mind the cost.
this is always the problem in left wing utopian societies, the end goal is always to eliminate any and all work but people love working
a job, a place, a role, a duty
the pain from boredom can easily be greater than physical and mental pain from working a brutal job
and its compounding over time
it can literally drive you insane
for someone who is a LITERAL no thoughts head empty it might be ok but for any functionally immortal being who almost always has a high iq and thinks alot and constantly about everything, the boredom is more likely to functionally kill you than any enemy.
its not an uncommon trope for a villain to fuck with the protag just because they are bored and that leads to them dying even if they had zero threats to them before hand.
and them not really caring that they are dying because they finally got to entertain themselves and that entertainment is so satisfying that it was all worth it.
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Oh it is a spoiler, you just misunderstood what it means.
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>>288428590
They don't crave servitude at all, in fact each one of them would rather be top dog and rule over the others. What they crave are physical bodies which they can use to have a permanent position in the world, or the physical realm, or whatever you want to call it.
The demon realm isn't physical, so demons, including the Primordials, don't have a body their soul is bound to. They can pop up in the physical world for a time using bodies made purely of magic but it drains their power and it can only be temporary, so they want physical bodies for them to inhabit in the physical world permanently, with no time limit.
Diablo legitimately wants to server Rimuru because he sees something special in him. The other 3are going to be "persuaded" by Diablo, literally or figuratively, to come meet Rimuru. Once that happens they're also impressed with him, plus Rimuru offers them physical bodies and names on top too.
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>>288430328
Actually something regarding the demons that is never outright explained but strongly implied at several points in the story up until and including the story's ending:Rimuru is implied to be the "shadow" cast from Veldanava like how the Primordial Demons are the shadows cast by the Angels, a naturally occurring counter-balance of sorts. Rimuru's name in some Japanese cultural thing can also be turned into the number 666 and I remember that same number being used as Furigana above Rimuru's name in a raw text once (just one of those things that get lost in translation by both official and unofficial TLs pretty much every time).
So that's it: Rimuru is essentially THE "Devil" in this setting so the demon primordials, including even Guy and his two maids to some extent, feel innately attracted to Rimuru by default.
Of course the other reasons mentioned previously by others are also still true. It's usually not just limited to one sole reason after all.
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>>288420332
>Rimuru's initial "3 laws"
That's right, I completely forgot about that, that was Rimuru's biggest piece of stupidity ever
>>288431783But Veldanawa was a dragon, and dragons don't "cast shadows"
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>>288435279
>is it easy to kinda hate Rimuru at a certain point?
How so?
He's increasing the quality of life of everyone who lives in that world, and it's not even exclusive to monsters since he's willing to share it with any of his allies.
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evil, hateful magic lord's domain and the gloomy... oppressed... exploited?
why aren't they all living in fear? >>288435279
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>he is a human inside
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>>288436637
not as much as he thinks
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>>288436747
be patient, hes working towards something great
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>>288436747
>no lawyers
>no income or property taxes
>only merchant trade is taxed
>no wage slavery
>free housing for all residents
>Tempest's various amenities are open to the public, at no charge
>Rimiru channels his subjects' adoration of him into civic pride and public works
>Rimiru expels merchants who deal in bad faith from his country
What an antisemite
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>yup, owned
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>>288436747
It's just that that world isn't a perfect carbon copy of ours, and there was no need to deal with some stupid, aggressive race, not every member of which is like that, but as a whole, they're a total pain in the ass.
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>>288436915
Here’s another issue: their country is largely a wilderness inhabited by isolated tribes, so that’s not a problem, and the city is small and still in its early stages, so there aren’t any major issues there either, at least not yet. On top of that, they’re constantly under the threat of war and the risk of everyone, humans, monsters, and everything in between, being wiped out, which brings the community together.
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>>288436732
>3rd season episode 61
god i hate that shit, THATS NOW HOW ITS ORDERED ALMOST ANYWHERE
it season 1 episode 1,2,3 etc
and then season 2 episode 1,2,3 etc
>um but actually in Nippon thats ho-
i dont give a fuck how it works over there.
and i care because when i go looking for season 3 episode 61 im not going to fucking find it because season 3 doesnt have 61 fucking episodes in it it has 24
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>>288436910
If we were to simply copy our world over, it would be a huge problem that we’d have to deal with head-on, BUT here we have one massive advantage.
IRL, we have either democracy with all its mess, or a monarchy where a good king will develop the country but a bad one will destroy the achievements of several predecessors; since Rimuru is a good absolute ruler and, on top of that, long-lived or immortal, this isn’t a problem.
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>>288436915
As a citizen of a country like that, where I have a good king ruling over me, a loving wife, work that makes sense and real value, no one treats me like dirt, and the country is constantly under threat of extermination, I wouldn’t give a damn about money and would truly be able to work for the king and country.
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>>288437169
If you do it of your own will you are not a slave
If I had my basic needs met and was and was respected I could easily work for the state.
If you consider your country's powerful industry and military as your own "gadgets" you have no need of having a pumped up car. And if people respect you because you are for example an engineer, you don't have to proof your value by wasting money.
Of course, we are assuming a well-managed kingdom here, not some sick socialism.
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>>288437381
by the way, it would be the king's ministers deciding who is compensated how, and who the state propaganda places where on the promoted social hierarchy.
you will be placed lower than 'some' groups you personally hate, or feel are less important than what you do. you will be compared, you will see them get slightly bigger meal rations, maybe one more room in their home, maybe that good spot in the holiday resort you saw from afar and wished for.
humans without additional software like buddhism or stoicism are not made to bear with jealousy. you would be livid about some things.
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>indigenious tribe culture via the Goblins
>not!Japanese culture (originating from a parallel-world Earth with some low-fantasy supernatural-elements) via the Ogres
>aesthetically Arabic culture via the Orcs
>aesthetically Aztec culture via the Lizardmen
>fantasy-cultures such as the Dryads/Treants (I don't think we ever saw any of the Treants in Tensura yet in any medium and/or spin-off)
>other monster tribe cultures in Jura Forest
>all cultures being maintained in their respective "federal states" (i.e. homelands)
>yet also resulting in a "melting pot" in the Jura Tempest Federation's capital, Rimuru City, that actually functions well because those who move to Rimuru City fully respect Rimuru's authority and fully integrate into the capital's society and mingle with others instead of creating cultural isles
>due to the "might makes right" monster mindset being different from the human mindset, Tempest is able to be a complete dictatorial "police state", yet doesn't even require enforcement or oppression because the population nigh unanimously willingly submits to the Tempest Regime
>initially starts off with a semi-socialist "merit point" economic system out of necessity but gradually transits to capitalism with proper currency (see LN and Trinity spin-off manga for details) to make trade with foreign merchants possible, so by now even in the anime "merit points" are only used internally for "government employees" until Tempest eventually circulates enough currency in the future
>initially starts off as an open-borders society to attract foreign visitors but later introduces proper border control enforcement after learning their lesson from the Falmuth invasion (pic related)
>initially tries to only create exclusively win-win treaties with other nations like Dwargon and Blumund, but later only prioritizes treaties with long-term merits for Tempest
What did Fuse mean by this?
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>>288437667
>tried open borders, didn't work
>"common sense" border controls (i.e. we only let you in if we like you)
>previous allied countries who maintained good relations are grandfathered in
Man I bet Gazel is so glad he went with his gut instinct and befriended Rimiru. He even chased him down after his own minister fucked things up with him to ensure Dwargon had a good relation with Tempest. Utter fucking godlike king instincts.
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GIGAzel CHADgo
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>>288437792
He has proven to be one of if not the most shrewd and competent rulers in this series. I like how even after Rimiru became a demon lord with unfathomable power he still defers to Gazel as his "ruler senpai" and looks to him for advice
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>>288406357
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>>288437995
i don't think he has common sense anon, do you see any fort zone of control on the map?
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dr stone
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this
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Fort zone of control?
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>>288438075
>dr stone
>Single man with all technology building knowledge makes an internet for lulz
nope
It would be possible but with hundreds of highest grade scientists and engineers, thousand of skilled workers, tens of thousands normal workers and several generations to achieve relatively high level of technology
Btw the Internet was create as a secret weapon against the Soviets, but unfortunately, years later it turned into such a cancer
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>>288438236
By the way, Jura should have the equivalent of the ARPANET specifically for military purposes.
A network of underground cables connecting various points across the country, so that even if magical communications are jammed and some nodes and cables are destroyed, the network will still be able to send information by bypassing the damage
>such an enemy is attacking from this direction with such numbers
and then receive orders via the same route
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>>288438929
Rimuru makes unblockable cellphones later on
given to a couple subordinates and allied nation leaders
its not exactly arpanet but in conjunction with their existing communitcation orbs or whatever its pretty close to it.
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>>288438332
I think the fact that the "cables" go through the shadow dimension is probably safer than them going in the underground. Not to mention the "cables" themselves are sticky steel threads so even if you have someone capable of entering the shadow realm to sabotage them, they also need the ability to sever these threads that are strong enough to even immobilize fighters at the level of the Ten Great Saints like Glenda and Litith.
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>Jura should have the equivalent of the ARPANET specifically for military purposes
With Rimuru in charge its more likely it would be leaked by him to the world at large and we'd see the emergency of RimTok before any military/scientific application.
He already kind of did it with the dungeon.
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>>288441783
I'm just happy when we see pairings that aren't with the MC at all, in any show. Like the least you can do for good side characters is throw them some good quality pussy or cock, you don't need the entire cast to always be sucking off the MC.
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>>288441956
Oh yeah don't get me wrong, it's def one of the pluses about this show. Characters actually having their own romances aside from the MC is always good. (Still find it weird Rimuru won't take anyone though)
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I feel the most sad for Shion and Shuna, they both very obviously exist merely to be cucked by whatever time travel monstrosity Nippon black-haired slut Chloe will morph into. The series would go from 9/10 to 10/10 if it actually was a harem with those two at the center. The main drama and subject of meetings to add a new monster race/culture to Tempest ought to be who gets added to the harem.
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>>288442095
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>>288443212
it would be better if someone was winning rimuru bowl, it would, but
>The main drama and subject of meetings to add a new monster race/culture to Tempest ought to be who gets added to the harem.
just watch nonbiri nouka for that. or rather, read it becasue the anime is completely cucked.
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So all of his jamming-proof communication is limited to Rimuru and a few of the strongest characters who usually stay in the city? That’s not how it should be. And basing all intelligence and military communication solely on Souei and his clones is a bad idea. He’s strong, but in the event of a major war, you can’t rely on just one centrally controlled star-shaped architecture system.
But it’s true, Rimuru looks like the kind of person who would lead to the creation of RimTok and, consequently, the subversion of his own country. Maybe the great sage would have warned him that this was to remain a military secret and explained why.
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Uhh... This issue is EXACTLY why they invented ""land-lines"" first.
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>luminous has created a society of true equality where all are free to follow their passions or simply live for the day
>"Yeah but if there's no being rich why invent anything?"
Rimuru is a filthy capitalist pig and an enemy of the people. We must resurrect the ancient demon dragon fuckstinction prophecied to destroy the human race in order to stop him, in this ten-psrt essay I will...
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>>288438236
>the Internet was create as a secret weapon against the Soviets
And this is why Jura needs that >>288449479
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>Rimuru shits on Luminus' prosperous socialism and tells the kids capitalism is better because the talented can be rich
>Meanwhile in Tempest they still don't have a wage system or any internal currency and people buy food with "points"
The entirety of Tempest is a fucking company town
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>>288450230
It's just a matter of time. Once Tempest gathers enough currency, they'll create a proper wage system, but might still keep the point system for some very special and exclusive "government employee benefits".
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I always have Naberal Gamma from Overlord in mind when I hear her.
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Man, it was such a great decision to design Tensura for the specific nip domestic manager/richfag niché. Thanks to that it can now still survive in this current age of non-existent attention spans, become the biggest LN franchise in nipland, and also have one of the few anime adaptations that get an entire 5 cour package (60 episodes, albeit split) guaranteed to be produced, despite being at the 4th season. Seasons getting LONGER over time is actually a huge rarity. Only other ones that come to mind doing the latter recently are Tsukimichi and Bookworm.
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we're eating good, shrimple as.
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>t.
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>>288455249
LN (fanTL): There is none for volumes 1-5. The TL for volumes 6-15 is JP->CN->EN, 16 and onward are edited MTL.
LN (official): Good prose, VERY bad translation choices for world-building elements, a few outright mistakes, is at volume 22, official TL of final volume (23) isn't released yet.
Manga (fanTL):
alyushiu (chapters 1-11): Is OK.
??? (chapters 12-20something): Complete and utter dogshit that at some points just outright copy-pastes WN content that's not even the correct continuity.
Shurim (chapters 20something-64): Good.
Tempest (chapters 65-106): Chapter 65 was redone later for the tank release, but chapters 66-70 are a bit rough but improves gradually to eventually become the best manga FanTL overall.
in-between Sniper releases: Shit. Skip them whenever possible.
There is no more FanTL at all from 107 onwards because the official simulpub started.
Manga (official simulpub): Same TL as official LN release with all the drawbacks.
Manga (official tank release): Pretty good TL, actually, though later at times is "poisoned" by established terminology translation tables set by LN translator so it unfortunately inherits some very retarded translations like "Seven Days Clergy".
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>>288443212
>they both very obviously exist merely to be cucked by whatever time travel monstrosity Nippon black-haired slut Chloe will morph into.
Don't worry she also gets cucked by Raphael sensei later on.
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>Retarded translations of world building elements such as "Seven Days Clergy" or "Ogre Mages" and all sorts of bugerizations including conversion of metric into imperial system
>Lazy handling of honorifics where -dono and -sama both merely result in "sir" as a title
>Randomly treats Souka (Dragonewt girl assistant of Souei) as male at times
>Always refers to GS/Raphael as male
>Ability overview pages for characters ALWAYS have mistakes in them in the translations
>Some lines of text are just removed entirely for no reason
>Absolutely zero intention shown to even try to catch the nuance of Japanese culture that are not straightforwardly translatable into a western equivalent
But to be fair, Tensura always had an "accessibility" problem where you usually have to choose from the "least bad localization" which is why it seems to be behind in the West compared to the likes of MT and Re:Zero even though Tensura completely stands above both of them in Japan.
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>Retarded translations of world building elements such as "Seven Days Clergy" or "Ogre Mages" and all sorts of bugerizations including conversion of metric into imperial system
>Lazy handling of honorifics where -dono and -sama both merely result in "sir" as a title
Pretty much the same ass official subtitles then. I can live with that.
>Always refers to GS/Raphael as male
That is pretty weird.
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>>288455249
You should read from the beginning since the anime left out so much stuff but here's the chapter where the start of the latest episode began
https://weebcentral.com/chapters/01JJ9WP5QWNHXY48AZ4T8A0T9P
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>>288441783
i read the LN but i don't even remember that pairing happening in the series until the very very end last arc. Did they see the LN ending and decide to include fanservice for it earlier on or something.
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Thanks for the stitches as always, stitch-anon!
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Milim (and even Ramiris) only get mentioned as a joke. But you left out the "official wife" which is GS/R/C!