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How do I tell my Jewish girlfriend that I'm an anti-Zionist who supports Iran and Palestine?
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>>34434343
It is possible to be pro-Palestine without being anti-Israel.
It is possible to be anti-Israel without being anti-Israelis.
It is possible to be anti-Israelis without being anti-semitic.
It is possible to be anti-semitic without being anti-individual-Jews.
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>>34434447
Yeah, I guess, to all. People cannot help being born who they are. The real life problem is that there is a universal program of brainwashing every one of them to believe that something distinguishes them from everyone else.
>>34434343
Use their literature against them. Most extreme religious fags lose faith as knowledge increases. The whole dna thin is nonsense, as if people dont fuck. Scientists cannot keep track of that.
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How do you define "zionist"? Because if you're one of those people who thinks even liberal Jews critical of the Israeli government are zionists for finding the actions of October 7th abhorrent and wanting Israel to continue to exist, you should just break up with your girlfriend.
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>>34434616
>Use their literature against them. Most extreme religious fags lose faith as knowledge increases. The whole dna thin is nonsense, as if people dont fuck. Scientists cannot keep track of that.
Most Jews aren't religious and support for Israel has more to do with wanting a country for their people than anything else, so I'm not sure how that's supposed to work.
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>>34434343
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You sure you’re just an anti-zionist? You’re playing into the ADL and AIPAC’s hands when you conflate Nazism with anti-zionism.
There are anti-zionist Jews and always have been.
Tell her how you feel about Zionism, and if she disagrees, dump her sorry ass.
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>>34434703
Most Jews arent Jews.
>>34435103
>Call anyone who makes sense a racist.
They do not hate themselves. They hate what they are.
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>>34434343
>calling yourself a White Nationalist while supporting the Iranian regime which openly hates White people and has been exposed for astroturfing and funding leftist anti-White movements in Europe/America
Well, first things first, you'll have to tell your GF that you're a retard.
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>>34435103
I’ve only ever seen antizionist Jews accused of being self-hating Jews before.
They seem to care a lot more about Judaism and preserving Jewish culture than the Zionists do, however. They don’t hate themselves, they hate what the State of Israel is doing and rightfully denounce it as misrepresenting an entire religion.
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>>34435127
What basis does a non-religious Jew have for being a Zionist? It makes about as much sense as if I and some other Americans decided we were owed certain parts of Wales and England.
The argument I always hear trotted out is so that Jews have a place they can always be safe, and I must say that Netanyahu’s administration has a very funny way of ensuring that’s the case.
One could also argue that the Zionist project has only served to increase antisemitic sentiments over time.
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>>34435123
"Anti-Zionist" doesn't mean opposing the Israeli government, it means literally opposing the existence of Israel entirely. There are basically almost no religious Jews who are true anti-Zionists because the whole religion revolves around the importance of the land of Israel to the Jewish people. The exceptions are those tiny, fringe sects of ultra-fundamentalist Jews who believe Israel shouldn't exist until the arrival of the Messiah, but I stress that those sects really are not part of mainstream Judaism at all.
Even most Reform synagogues (the most liberal denomination of Judaism) are Zionist.
True anti-Zionist Jews (as in those who want to completely dismantle Israel and replace it with an Arab Palestinian state) are more likely to be irreligious/secular and believe "true Jewish culture" involves being a wandering, stateless people. Sometimes these people call themselves diasporists or Bundists.
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>>34435155
>There are basically almost no religious Jews who are true anti-Zionists
We have Satmar, Malachim and the Torah Jews in the USA. There are also other Hasidic and Haredi organizations in other countries, including Israel.
Why lie?
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>>34434343
just be honest and explain your reasons. i mean they all are definetly comitting a genocide. Might as well tell her Hilter needs to be given a very miniscule credit because he compensated for their future war crimes.
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>>34435127
Somehow I don't think this guy was "ethnically Jewish"
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>>34435127
>just because you don't understand how ethnoreligious groups work doesn't change the fact most Jews are non-religious and are still ethnically Jewish
You're a legit retard. They aren't ethnically Jews, why do you think you cannot just buy and use at home DNA kits like 23andMe tests in Israel? It's forbidden by law.
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>>34435162
>Satmar, Malachim and the Torah Jews in the USA
Not the guy you quotes, but, they all practice the Zohar and Talmud and think you're a soulless goyim that should be enslaved. They don't want the state of Israel to exist not because they are compassionate like you and they try to paint it. They don't believe the state of Israel should exist because God said so.
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>>34439521
>DNA testing kits are not illegal in Israel, but their sale and marketing are restricted. While the Genetic Information Law of 2000 prohibits the marketing of kits for genetic self-examination or testing family ties within the country, customs does not currently block the importation of such kits, and major companies like 23andMe have shipped directly to Israeli residents.
You're objectively wrong.
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>>34439744
Are you being retarded on purpose? Do you seriously not understand the difference between the marketing of a product being illegal and the product itself being illegal? You know there are countries where marketing for pharmaceutical products is illegal, right?
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>>34439777
>A DNA test is a controlled substance.
Uh, no? They just can't make ads of them, people can still use import and use DNA tests in Israel. Also interesting that you completely ignored my point about countries making marketing for pharmaceutical products illegal, unless your retarded brain thinks those pharmaceutical products are just controlled substances as well.
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>>34439789
>Controlled substances are drugs or chemicals whose manufacture, possession, or use is regulated by the government under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) of 1970.
So basically, a term that is only used in American legal context. Unless you have proof of other countries having a similar term to "controlled substances"?
>Why are you talking about other countries? I ignored it because it has nothing to do with the topic.
I'm bringing up other countries to show that making marketing of products illegal isn't special to Israel and yes it has to do with the topic because you're trying to make it seem like Israel making the marketing of certain products illegal is something that is unique to Israel when it's not. Where you dropped on your head as an infant? Is that why you're so fucking stupid?
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>>34439568
You're so dumb that instead of doing your research, you just asked an LLM, do us a favor and remove yourself from the genetic pool, this will improve humanity as a whole.
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>>34439789
These are not me, and you're answering as if it were. You're more retard than anyone I have ever known. Not everyone that answers to your comment is the same person.
I stand by what I said in my initial comment, you can get a paternity test through court, but you can't get a DNA test to check your ancestry. Now, as I said, remove yourself from the genetic pool and make the world better.
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>>34439836
>You're so dumb that instead of doing your research, you just asked an LLM, do us a favor and remove yourself from the genetic pool, this will improve humanity as a whole.
Alright you want an link? Here you go: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/israel-dna-test-illegal/
Explains the law, why it exists, and what it actually entails. I shall now wait for you to dismiss it because you don't like the source.
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>>34439836
>These are not me, and you're answering as if it were. You're more retard than anyone I have ever known.
bruh wtf?? How can >>34439840 know if you are that anon or not. Wow you are a retard. damn.
>Not everyone that answers to your comment is the same person.
Ok genius if you know so much then how would >>34439840 know if you are not those fags? I cant believe how crazy people are. You know that we all are anons and there is absolutely no way of telling impersonators apart if they mimic you. I am thunderstruck by your retardness.
I will not leave you without option. Set your name to "certified retard" so we know its the same fag replying.