>>34546883
Maybe look into accepting a shittier job so you can coast for a bit

I graduated with a CIS major the same year as you and im also 25. Stop being a NEET and work as a bartender/factory worker/whatever until you can get a tech related job. I had to work as a computer repair man for a year after graduation before I lucked out and got an IT job. It takes several hundred applications, dozens of failed interviews, and luck before you can land an IT gig.
Also you arent a loser because you dont have an IT job you just feel like one. I live in an apartment and work full time and i feel like a loser because im emotionally underdeveloped as a grown ass man. Only things that make me feel better about that are gym/running and my hobbies.

>>34546900
>Maybe look into accepting a shittier job so you can coast for a bit
I tried that locally with very little luck.

After I get my setup back to normal, I'll do some more freelance work.
I won't rule out anything at least.

>>34547265
>work as a bartender/factory worker/whatever until you can get a tech related job
I will, I'll get back into the market.

>It takes several hundred applications, dozens of failed interviews, and luck before you can land an IT gig
That's fair, yeah. Seems like a lot but there's no choice anyway I guess.

>>34546883
If at first you don't succeed, try again

BUT only if you try differently

>>34549216
>BUT only if you try differently
Do you mean my mindset about things are about my career choices?

I will admit, I haven't had a clear roadmap for my life for the past year.

>>34546883
Get your T-levels checked, just to be safe.

>>34546883
Let's build a SaaS together.

>>34550880
Uh, how would we do that? Like via 4chan I mean.

>>34550836
Should I get a full checkup for that, or should I wait until I am able to do this during an actual checkup?

>>34546883
post "nigger" in the bluest of boards and get a 3 day ban. Don't reset the router and delete cookies. Stop solving these stupid captchas. Doomscroll only at mornings or when you drink a cup of coffee. Aim for some kind of disabilty gibs in your country. That's all you can do, nignog

>>34550926
>Uh, how would we do that? Like via 4chan I mean.
Not via 4chan, we would add each other on Discord, slowly know each other, and then we would collaborate. I am feeling lost just like you. I have a few SaaS ideas, nothing groundbreaking, I don't plan on changing the world, I just want to be able to make enough money to cover our personal expenses, if it grows to actually generate more money than that, it's a win. Sorry, I was only able to answer today cause I was working. I don't like frontend BTW, I find it very easy to build the backend of anything I want, but I hate frontend, it's just tiring.

>>34552812
all sorta good advice

>>34553014
Okay sure, Discord would work good for me.

>>34553376
I dropped my discord ID and deleted quickly, idk if you've seen it. You can drop yours too, not a problem.

You're not a loser. You'll become one though if you fully convince yourself that you are, you'll self-sabotage yourself at almost every opportunity.

>>34553400
All good, thank you. I managed to find it, I'll add you as soon as I can.

I'll drop my own later, just need to attend to a few things.

>>34554512
>I'll drop my own later, just need to attend to a few things.
Sure, good luck with everything you have to take care of. Until then.

>>34553014
>I have a few SaaS ideas, nothing groundbreaking, I don't plan on changing the world, I just want to be able to make enough money to cover our personal expenses,
I feel the exact same way, having a project that pays for itself is the best goal for starting this kind of venture.

>if it grows to actually generate more money than that, it's a win
Sounds great to me.

>>34553014
>I don't like frontend BTW, I find it very easy to build the backend of anything I want, but I hate frontend, it's just tiring
It's cool, I managed okay with frontend and backend but I did pretty well when it came to frontend work for moat of my work.

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>>34550926
>>34553376
>>34554512
>>34555940
>>34556713
Guys, let's join together and create some SaaS, then. That's actually perfect. But I can't tell who OP is or whether you guys are the same person. I had dropped my Discord ID before, but I usually get nervous and end up deleting it.

With that in mind, I created a Discord server called "SaaS Server." The invite will last for 7 days. Anyone who thinks they can contribute in a meaningful way is welcome to join us in the meantime. Depending on the number of people, we can assemble one or two teams. It's going to be an interesting experiment: https://discord.gg/MepMcc4d

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>>34556907
c'mon guys, join the server

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>>34552299
Get a full checkup but push for them to check your t-levels too. It is better to be thorough about this stuff.

Sorry for the delay in responses, this weekend is more busy than expected, will followup properly when possible.

>>34553840
>You'll become one though if you fully convince yourself that you are, you'll self sabotage yourself at almost every opportunity
I only realised that last year, thankfully I've been trying to get out of my own way more. It takes a lot of effort though.

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>>34546883
My mindset went from:
>loser > life-little person (PC play on intellectual-midget) > lazy man's version of an upstanding person

Just have to keep making progress little-by-little.

Also, what course did you take to teach English?

>>34546883
Give up and “enjoy” the culture slop the woke have deemed fit to force upon us

>>34556907
I'm the Op, once I get my crummy discord account working again I'll pop into that channel. Thank you for the invite.

>>34546883
Trying being me, 36. Working min wagie retail job (which is actually enjoyable desu, we sell 2nd hand goods)

>>34560703
>what course did you take to teach English?
It was a 120 hour online course, for TEFL AND TESOL.

I'll provide better details once I am ready to use my laptop again.

>>34560766
>Give up
I gave up on a lot of big things already, I got tired of doing that too.

All I'm looking for is a decent way to make a living and to take care of the people and things I care about.

I'm not trying to be Batman, I just wanna be able to survive and chill three to four days out of the week.

But yeah fair enough, I shouldn't get my hopes up too high.

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>>34547265
>I live in an apartment and work full time and i feel like a loser because im emotionally underdeveloped as a grown ass man
I suppose I am in a similar situation.
I will stop letting my mood dictac for now, I'll just focus on getting some schmoney without having to die for it.

>Only things that make me feel better about that are gym/running and my hobbies
Also a good point, taking better care of myself is easier with actual money but I'll avoid making myself weaker from now on.

>>34560966
Any advice for a schmuck like me, any mistakes I should be desperately avoiding?
Besides my current failures I mean.

>>34562315
I am Certificate in TEFL and TESOL:
>Teaching English as a Foreign Language (TEFL)
>Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages (TESOL)

Basically, I can teach English to anyone of any background so long as I can have a proper class with them online or in person.

My relevant experience comes from me tutoring and helping many of my other family members and neighbors as well as the time I have spent working as a teacher's assistant during highschool.

English was my best subject in school, and so was Research in college but I doubt those two mean much without a ton of job experience to fluff them up.

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>>34556907
Sorry for not joining yet, it's just been one whole week of bad luck so far.

>>34546883
On a related note, do you guys have any advice on getting better sleep?

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>>34571699
There are no magical answer here. Sleep, eat right, don't doom-scroll, apply for a 1000 software jobs that pay below market, work 10-12 hours a day.

Why some people do or don't, no one knows to this day.

>>34570063
You can ask ChatGPT, it's been the same answer for 50 years. Stop caffeine at like 10am, go to sleep on time, sleep 7-9 hrs, comfortable temp, completely dark, quiet, ear plugs and eye cover if needed, get off computer hour before sleep, don't eat right before bed, yada yada. Consistent schedule matters a LOT.

>>34560966
>>34563716
Drive a truck, join the military, or get into a nursing program. None of the other shit will get fixed at your income level.

>>34570063
Depends on why you aren't getting enough sleep.

>>34546883
just be yourself. it's not like you have a choice.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-k9sTAYEQ&ra=m

>>34572094
I struggle to keep my mind at rest during the night, I keep replaying my stressers and mistakes in my mind.

my family is a fucking nightmare

>>34546883
Practice your tech and IT skills outside of work. Have passion projects and you will soon be employed.

>>34571713
>get into a nursing program
I can't get into the military or truck driving where I am but the last one seems most possible at this stage.

The military in my home country does nothing for a career and I need citizenship for the overseas militaries, so money is still the issue then.

Anything to consider with the nursing program?

>>34571713
>You can ask ChatGPT, it's been the same answer for 50 years
Great, thank you.

I'll be using these notes tonight.

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>>34568227
>Sorry for not joining yet, it's just been one whole week of bad luck so far.
The invite expired. We're in 6 people rn, have you joined? If you want I can generate another one, we already talked about a few things and there's a poll going on.

>>34571713
>There are no magical answer here. Sleep, eat right, don't doom-scroll, apply for a 1000 software jobs that pay below market, work 10-12 hours a day

Understood, I am getting my sleep and nutrition in order.

I'll put the rest into practice where I can this week. No phone for 45 minutes before bed too.

>>34582153
>The invite expired. We're in 6 people rn, have you joined?
Not yet, sorry. Last week was a kick in the ass.

>If you want I can generate another one,
For the sake of convenience, I will let you know in a follow up post when I am ready to pop in.
I don't wanna keep you in suspense or inconvenienced.

>we already talked about a few things and there's a poll going on
That sounds awesome, looking forward to it when I am ready.

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>>34575222
>Practice your tech and IT skills outside of work
I am trying to do so with YouTube videos, trying to get more comfortable focusing on my own again.

>Have passion projects
I'm sorry if I kee making myself look a fool but how do you narrow down a passion project?
My interests are very visual and all over the place.

>>34572106
>just be yourself. it's not like you have a choice
I don't think that'll really work until I evolve myself beyond what I am.
Without torturing myself though, l tried it before and it didn't help.
Anyways, money is the main concern.

I'll look at this video too as well by the way, just in the middle of something.

I should be able to join that discord channel properly this week.

I should've bought Bitcoin or something.

>>34589713
You still could, if you got money.

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>>34591564
That might be a few steps away for me.

>>34556907
not op but im down. what kind of saas are you thinking of?
t. office wagie

>>34597937
>>34588086
The invite had expired. There's 6 of is, for now we haven't progressed much as we're still deciding on the idea. I generated this new invite. https://discord.gg/EP3mxp6q

>>34582739
Good news, I am back on Discord now.

>>34582153
You can send a new invite now, if it is at all still possible.
Apologies, and thank you for the patience.

>>34546883
If you can't get a job that you want, get a job in warehouse, usually there are one or tow warehouse around amazon or something similar. Good pay with easy job and safe enough for a short term plans, work there year or two and search for better job in time.

>>34599709
Thank you, I appreciated it very much.
Again, sorry for the delay.

This week is ending on a rough note.

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