>>5080929
Too many people were whacking off to theropods so we had to make them less appealing. Sorry. Believe it or not, the feathers resulted in focus groups getting fewer erections.

t. High Councilman Longrich of the international paleontology conspiracy

>>5080929
Kids got into dinosaurs growing up, wanted to learn more about them, and then learned more about them. You're just a poser.

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>>5080929
The main issue is that modern paleoart has this weird pastel, tumblr-esque sheen on it, while the older stuff is grittier looking.

>>5081073
In the future this might become every kid's favorite because for all we know every other dinosaur is just brown.

>>5080929
If any of you seriously in 2025 fucking believe that every dinosaur was feathered you and your famikies gene pool shouldnt be allowed to vote.

T-rex has been proven to have not been feathered and many of the pop dinosaurs we all know were not feathered as for some dinos feathers were chosen against in the game of life, leaving them scaled.

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>>5080931
>the feathers resulted in focus groups getting fewer erections.
Whew this new propaganda certainly isn't working on me then, cause god damn

>>5080931
If it’s actually longrich: Waiting for you to get kicked out of your most recent teaching job for being an intolerable prick. Good job with nano tho, you pompous ass.

>>5080929
>OP confuses paleontology with paleomedia for the gorillionth time

>>5081085
>T-rex

>>5080929
originally: scientists doing science
now: trannies and other pedophiles doing politics

>>5081073
The bottom example especially is bizarre.
>stripes on tail for camouflage in grass and amongst the herd
Okay, that makes sense.
>BRIGHT COLORES TO ATTRACT MATE!
One of these is not like the other.

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>>5080929
We know what they looked like - It’s like this, OP.

>>5080929
The problem is none of that was ever true. Most of the ideas of the dinosaur renaissance were always based on pure speculation and wishful thinking with absolutely no paleontological evidence to back them. The warm-blooded thing for example has become something of a bizarre anachronism at this point. Why anyone ever believe this about dinosaurs is pretty unclear. But there's absolutely no good evidence to back it. Every time it's been tested it's failed. Nothing in the paleontological record even mildly suggests that dinosaurs might be warm-blooded.

>>5081967
In the modern age they're the same thing. Apparently you've never seen a real paleontologist in the last 20 years speak. They're absolutely retarded. They make Bob Bakker look like a genius.

>>5082426
That's because its the same playbook from the same CIA agents. It's multi-spectrum enshitification to serve capitalist interests and let's be honest at this point the demiurge. They're just straight up doing devil worship.

>>5082510
Your schizophrenia is worsening. Does this mean you’re going to spam weird porn again?

Asking for the FBI

>>5082513
>Does this mean you’re going to spam weird porn again?
Sorry, I'm not a paleo"artist".

>>5080929
The accuracy thing is beside the point. The real point of dinosaurs having presence in culture is its a shit test to filter out autistic and weird people. Of you have a stake in the argument, as a creationist, scale-ist, feathers, whatever, you automatically lose because there you are putting on like a science quack rather than talking about something socially relevant.
The purpose of edutainment, dinosaurs, space shuttles, bill nye, all that bugman shit is a social filter, just like sports
Really you should not care about dinosaurs, space, etc it is a social misstep. I have no idea what dinosaurs looked like and dont care to.
Paleontology is a really decadent pointless field and it would be more responsible to go into investment banking or law. I mean imagine explain to people you dig up shit for kids museums. Thats like 40 year old virign shit.
Guys, dinosaurs are bad

>>5082534
This is what tindr and exposure to basketball americans has done to zoomers brains.

>>5082534
>knowing shit is fucking GAY i just keep up with movies and know pornstars names
and americans wonder why china is literally buying their country

your people are going extinct and the worthy are becoming chinese. beijing is already cleaning up the dog eaters and muslims in preparation.

>>5082509
>implying based Bob Bakker isn’t a genius
lol

>>5080931
>>5081073
>>5080944
>>5082549
>>5082426
OP here, I think people here misunderstood what I was trying to convey. The reason I don't like modern paleoart is because how tame the dinosaurs look. I just miss the Bakker-style dinosaurs. Bakker is the best example of what I'm talking about. He always made it a point to make dinosaurs look active and dynamic. Like take the OP pic for example. It's a depiction of a T. rex rearing up and standing on one leg to dodge a prey's attack. Or his iconic running deinonychus drawing.

To put into perspectivw what I'm talking about, if they discovered deinonychus today, it's not the feathers I'd be mad about. It's about how 90% of the paleoart would depict it doing something lame and "serene" like drinking water or rolling around on its belly or something like that. More dynamic portrayals would get comments about it being an "awesomebro fantasy"

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>/pol/tard palentology retards on /an/: gay furries are ruining paleontology by making dinosaurs lame!
>gay furries dinosaur drawings: crocodilian terror birds chasing down fresh toddler meat
>/pol/tard palentology retards on /an/: gay furries are ruining paleontology by making dinosaurs serve death! carnism! BLOODMOUTHS! MOLOCH! APEP! ANTI-CAT FED JEW *orderlies bust in* HELP IM BEING ATTACKED BY CIA NIGGERS

>>5082561
>Like take the OP pic for example
Bakker didn't make that pose. This is the second time I've told you.

>>5082561
Too many fucking redditor soifags

>>5082581
schizophrenia

>>5082561
>>5082642
Because it's about truth not your entertainment, you media childs.

>>5082691
"Realistic paleoart" is entertainment. It's not truth either, nobody knows what these animals looked like and never will.

I genuinely hope anti-feather fags and paleotrannies kill each other.

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>>5080929
>Why did paleontology get taken over by nerds and pansies?
Furries happened.

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Funfact: the first "evidence" of feathers on non-avian dinosaurs came from the USSR,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avimimus#Discovery_and_species
almost ALL "evidence" of feathered non-avian dinosaurs come from the PRC.

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>>5083364
>The great plan for the new world order to make a western concept like "dinosaurs" look as lame as possible

>>5082508
Are you posting a throwback to the 90s?

>>5083364
Where it comes from is irrelevant.
Why? Because old fossils hold up under modern scrutiny.
These days we're able to investigate for pigment traces in preserved feathers and similar integument. This is something pretty new, and isn't something that you'd predict would be possible back in the past.
But, old feathered fossils from China are found to have these pigment traces in them.

So either the Chinese predicted that we'd be able to find these pigment traces decades later and painted them on with microscopic brushes, or the fossils are authentic.

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>>5080929
what the fuck?

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>>5082422
A creature with a generally dull body for camouflage but specific brightly colored spots to attract a mate?
Unheard of

>>5084210
The ONLY thing I remember about the Olympics was her

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Not really sure why transpohobes and nazis think liking dinosaurs is a sign of autism. I am trans (mtf) and have autism but liking dinosaurs has nothing to do with having autism. Transphobia can come in all shapes and sizes. Also, science says dinosaurs had feathers.

>>5082561
Most paleoartists now are told that dinosaurs are meant to be portrayed like real animals, and that real animals are being boring 90% of the time. And think that means that dinosaurs should be portrayed as being boring or else they're not being portrayed as animals. And then forget that they can make realistic behaviour that is also cool, and that animals can look threatening and aggressive (there's also the over correction of the blood thirsty monster dinosaur imaginary)

>>5086733
i don't know what you're talking about chief. i can stand on one leg. i see animals standing on one leg all the time. there are birds swinging on branches and doing acrobatics for fun outside my window. what the fuck are you talking about, you asshole?

>>5081073
Is there any evidence at all for thst theorized pigmentation?

>>5087101
As much evidence as there is that they had eyes

>>5084381
In your own example it's something that is only visible when the feathers are in the upright position, normally they'd be out of view.

>>5086726
Good bait, actually made me cringe

>>5080929
Because nu-males infantilizing them as "wholesome chungus lgbt birbs" became a trend instead of portraying them as fierce reptiles.

>>5080929
the fuck are you talking about, 80's and 90's was when T. Rex was a slow dumb blind scavenger
it's modern day paleontology that rehabilitated him

modern day paleontology is also the one who found out how giant pterosaurs could actually fly, 80's paleontology said that they larger ones couldn't fly

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>>5087135
>buh brightly colored displays are UNHEARD of, they'd make you easy prey!
It's a Bowerbird you numbskull
Look up Ocillated Turkey males too

Start coping. Keep coping.

>>5080929
The "warm blooded mammal-dino" concept popularized by Bakker and Paul was always met with some disagreement, even back then. Many scientists believed that a mesothermic metabolism for dinos, in-between monitor lizards and birds, made more sense

>>5087206
Post a multi-ton animal with those flashy colors. Oh wait they don't exist

>>5087310
"Doesn't matter, had sex", is the running theme of nature.

>>5080929
FUCK gen x, FUCK millenials, FUCK zoomers and FUCK sci*nce (aka basedence). Back in the 60s dinosaurs actually roamed the earth and ran 150km/h and ate battle tanks.

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>>5086735
Elephants can stand on one leg. How often do you see them do it?
If I walked into the Africa section of a natural history museum and they had an elephant display balancing on one leg like a circus animal, that'd be kinda weird and out of place.

>>5087341
>Elephants can stand on one leg.
ai lied to you

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>>5087363
>a baby
>an ai image
two strikes

>>5087363
If you want proof, just ask google for an academic citation of an elephant standing on one leg.

no results. Thousands of citations for 2 legs. No citations for one.

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>>5087366
>>5087370
What is it about paleo threads that attracts schizos?

>>5087394
I think people who can't tell when something isn't AI are more retarded than those who can't tell when something is

>>5082561
>>5080929
Bakker was talking about dinosaurs being warm blooded and likely feathered since the 1980s. I'm not sure what the point is here if it's meant to be mocking shrinkwrapsois or featherchads

>>5081085
But Yutyrannus, Velociraptor, and Deinonychys were all feathered? Shrinkwraptrannies are delusional on the same level as hollow earth theorists

>>5087456
yeah because they were not closely related to T. rex

>>5087394
>thinks that proves it's not ai
>it's still a baby
are you stupid?

>>5087554
It doesn't matter if it's a baby.
>Elephants can stand on one leg.
Is undeniably true. You can find photos of this dated back to the 80's at least.
The point is that you rarely see them do it, even if it's possible, so a museum shouldn't pose their elephant display on one leg.

>>5086735
"Dinosaurs must have had the ability to stand on one leg" is not an argument for displaying a dinosaur standing on one leg.
Do you get it now?

>>5087693
Neither animal is capable of standing on one leg though

>>5080929
>Dinosaurs were warm blooded, fast
We've known dinos were cold blooded and slow since the 19th century.

>>5083475
USAID used tax payer money to bribe Pizzahut into getting rid of sit down restaraunts, I just assume the secret society times are all gay and petty.

>>5080929
Tenderqueers played with dinosaur toys as kids. It's also a relatively boring field with very few specimens and discoveries require access to tightly guarded fossils so alphabet people are promoted heavily as influencers.

>>5087706
Disproven even by the 60s

saying that dinosaurs didn't have feathers is a major chudcel pissbaby redflag. it's like saying covid vaccines aren't effective, or that office furnishing fires couldn't have collapsed the wtc towers at free fall speed into their own footprint. science deniers are retarded

>>5088232
Honestly i blame the distrust of dinosaurs having feathers on the retards that claimed all dinosaurs had them and used it to own the hecking JP fans

>>5088232
Covid vaccines aren't effective and MRNA was known to cause health issues since the 90s and was only greenlit because Trump in his infinite wisdom authorized pharmaceutical companies to play with your health and then those same vaccines were later weaponized by Biden voters, but many dinosaurs did have feathers whether or not chudcels like it or not.
>>5088242
Honestly this. The moment some of the much heckin science retards heard "Many dinosaurs had feathers" they rushed to try and shit on JP fans despite themselves not knowing what the actual conclusions were that many above a certain size did not have feathers even if the consensus was that some above a certain size in certain climates did, but not all, with most feathered species being smaller. I believe there is also an element of the feather deniers potentially being creationists who can't or don't want to accept the bird-dinosaur link if they aren't just purely of the "This makes my favorite [extremely inaccurate portrayal of a dinosaur from before the 60s-80s depending on pop culture portrayal accuracy] look less intimidating (somehow)" camp.

>>5088306
shitting on JP isn't very hard
>velociraptor
>a 6 foot tall dinosaur

>dilophosaurus
>a 6 foot tall dinosaur
>with venom
>and a frill

>Biologists
>too stupid to understand parthenogenesis
>"Are you suggesting females will reproduce?"
>"life.. uh...finds a way."

>don't move!
>they can't see you if you don't move!

it's a remarkably stupid plot

>>5088323
It's fun if you turn off your brain, but yeah

>>5088324
yep

and I understand the moral of the story was science makes mistakes

but the mistakes didn't have to be so incredibly dumb to make his point.

>>5088325
That's Hollywood for you

>>5088360
the worst of those were straight out of the book

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>>5087324
Can't have sex if you die.
You have no examples. "Bright flashy colors" and "camouflage colors" at the same time are a contradiction. You don't even understand WHY bright flashy colors are a thing. It's not to simply "attract mates", there are thousands of ways to do that. Are boobs brightly colored? Are dicks? No, they are not. We find them attractive anyway. The actual reason for "bright flashy colors" is they are honest signals, they show that you are fit and can outrun predators. Basically saying "I do not need camouflage".

Featherfag paleoartists deserve to be beaten to death. There is nothing wrong with "drab" dinosaurs, there's no evidence for absurd bright colors in conjunction with camouflage colors. Your shitty art is not suddenly more interesting because you found where the orange and teal hues are on the color wheel.

>>5088389
You’re ascribing a lot of agency and meaning to something thats more likely to be evolved from see food related color = dopamine mechanisms getting tangled with the sex drive by chance than some higher order reasoned shit about succeeding with a handicap

there is no “reason” for natural animal evolution beyond cosmic ray hit, meiosis error, chromosome/whole genome duplicated, genetically unstable but fertile enough hybrid, viral junk dna, etc

breasts are perpetually enlarged in only some races of humans because of cultural, not natural, selection. we selectively bred ourselves like dogs. that is change with a reason. there is a difference.

>>5088483
>Her boobs were too small so I didn't have sex with her
>said no man ever

>>5088484
>tiny lizard who's survival strategy is to run away

Why was the retard equating a lizard that weighs less than a pound to multi-ton animals deleted?

>>5081073
Bottom one looks like it's on its way to the welfare office.

>>5088323
>>don't move!
>>they can't see you if you don't move!

That was a side effect of the frog DNA but they never actually bothered to explain it.

>>5080929
I hope a royal poodle will bite you in the ass.

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[ ] Shrinkwrapped
[ ] Outdated bible-influenced scaly dragon portrayal
[ ] Pronated wrists
[ ] Crocodile mouth
[X] Just Like a Real Animal

>>5087101
Lizards and snakes come in many bright colors but crocodiles and turtles not so much

>>5088323
>>5088362
Michael Crichton was a climate change denying retard

>>5087101
Not at all, super colorful dinosaurs are meme that people do because they used to be portrayed with muted colors so we have to be contrarians. It's specially funny because the dinosaurs we do know the color of are much closer to the old depictions

>>5087451
He was wrong then and he's wrong now.

>>5088323
I'm so sick of American to being literature illiterate. Jurassic Park is a parable about the hubris of man, it's not a story about dinosaurs. People really need to stop getting this wrong.

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>>5080929
>Dinosaur has obvious vestigial trait
>NuPaleofgs have to make up weird fan fictions about it having obscure functions and treat it like a fact
>Fossils preserve little to no evidence of how a dinsaur's soft tissues looked
>NuPaleofgs have to make up weird fan fictions about it having bizarre structures and treat it like a fact
I hate this faggotry so much. I wonder how many kids are going to watch Apple's retarded show and grow up believing sauropods sprouted giant glowing bubblegum balls out of their necks.

It's like these faggots hear the
>YOU CAN'T PROVE HE WASN'T A FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER
argument and didn't realize that it's a joke.

>>5080929
If you liked dinosaurs past the age of 14 you were seen as a total loser.

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It's amusing that even here Ivan is trying to infect the board with culture war nonsense

>>5082561
>a prey's
ESL moment

the world is civilized now

men used to have to hoof miles with a donkey and rifle hoping to not run into aggressive locals, inclement weather, or dangerous wild life impeding their playtime digging for fossils

>>5096745
Holy shit this man got absolutely mindbroken by that guy and his cat on the other thread

>>5096744
Fuck the CIA.

>>5096796
You literally don't have a concept of what civilization is. That's why everything is going backwards into a dark age now.

>>5096960
What's the CIA got to do with it?

>>5096961
yeah yeah boohoo gloomer boomer

let me know when we start publicly sacrificing people to the sun god again

>>5092653
salamanders can also have colors

>>5090754
I can't tell if this is supposed to be cool or supposed to be lame but I find it cool.

>>5094477
"climate change" is certainly not real.

>>5097136
if climate change not real, why is coral reefs dying?

>>5090754
fuckin ew

>>5097137
Pollution is real, still. Beyond that some coral reefs just have life and death cycles that get publicized as something out of the ordinary.

>>5097141
>Pollution is real, still.
so much this

Kikes and idiots can't stop bitching about climate change which is questionable, meanwhile all the very real ecological disasters are swept under the rug: deforestation, artificialization of soils, soil erosion, pollution, overfishing, etc...

>>5097194
and the fucking 6th Massive Extinction event of species.

>>5081886
Nick Longrich is based and /ourguy/, go back

>>5080931
Our leader

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>>5080929
paleoautists are obsesses about dinosaurs being potrayed in the "right" way, aka their way as all autists conceive it. which means, behaving exactly like idealize version of real animals, without all the nasty bullshit about violence and bloodthirst that they associate with jurassic park.
the bad news is that such a lame vision of what are essentially rocks shaped like bones of old animals took off most of the mystique and allure they used to have, so nobody cares bout dinosaurs anymore
the good news is that since nobody cares bout that, when dinosaur media gets popular it tends to be despite this vision, like with primal, ark or the isle (prehistoric planet being a documentary is exempt; after all they're not totally wrong and advocating against that is just lacking logic whatsoever)
the solution would be to have a paradigm shift where "awesomebros" and "paleoautists" come to terms with this for the sake of good ol fun, but it's merely wishful thinking at best

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>>5082561
>I'll put into perspectivw what I'm talking about
Why? Just post examples. This is an imageboard, not a textboard. What the fuck is wrong with newfags? Why are we talking about paleoart with no art being posted? At least name the guilty artists. All the defining modern paleoartists that come to mind (Wierum, Witton, Engh) draw active crazy giant animals. I know paleoschizo hates Engh for his fat hairy T rex but he still draws it like THIS
>>5097638
Correct post.
The answer to this is to just do it yourself. If you give a shit about how dinosaurs are drawn then what's better than arguing online? Just pick up a pencil. If you can't draw then just learn. Look at paleoart in books you own or online and draw the shapes. Trace them if you have to. Go to a museum with a sketchbook. It's not hard. If you have a problem you are a gay retard.

>>5081188
Mario Lanzas makes kino paleoart, he knows to distribute feathers and colour dinos to be realistic instead of turning them all into giant chickens. The Utahraptor in pic looks like a cross between a leopard and a vulture, and it works.

>>5097949
The image you are replaying to was drawn by Fred the Dinosaurman (another kino paleoartist)

>>5097948
That image is unbelievably retarded. There is such a thing as trying TOO hard to be cool

>>5087852
It's not been disproven NOW. Every single claim of the dinosaur dark age started in the 60s is based on propaganda and totally divorced from any fossil evidence. ALL fossil evidence disproves just about every single trendy, retarded belief about dinosaurs from the past 50 years.

I'm sorry. It's not real. It's NEVER been real. And despite repetition, it will never BE real. Only Truth is real, and you don't have it.

>>5087456
Are they? Everything from china's sphere of influence is openly fake. And anything else is made up. Though after corona, (((westerners))) have finally just given up on paleontology entirely and are faking shit at the same level as chinks.

I don't know why scientists have to keep being told this, but hoaxes don't count as evidence.

>>5098404
>>5098405
Well i guess our vacation is officially over

>>5080929
Facts don't care about your feelings.

>>5098417
tell that that to trannies and see how well that goes.

>>5097055
I'll start that back up soon. Don't worry, we'll definitely let you know.

>>5097137
Because you're stupid and trans. Most anthropogenic coral reef destruction - almost all of it in fact - comes from freshwater pollution, mainly from two sources: agriculture and cities, but since that would require blaming farmers (that's a no-no with all their lobbying power) or politicians (also can't have politicians actually held to account for practicing neoliberalism) we blame made up bullshit with no actual solutions instead. That way we can just keep practicing neoliberal devil-worship until man exterminates itself.

>>5098441
>>5098444
why are you so obsessed

>>5098476
I don't know what you're talking about, faggot. I just shat on your propaganda to tell you what's actually happening.

>>5098489
was only lurking the index and saw you shitposting about trans for no reason
please keep it in /pol/ dude

>>5098531
That’s what epstein wanted when he made moot make /pol/ and later crack down on gg. Whats it feel like to agree with a pedophile?