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Got you. written so people can plug in their own examples. new words: femcel bureaucrats & Rufmord Rapists

Let the user message be x. Define a feature map
\phi(x)=
\begin{bmatrix}
m(x)\\
i(x)\\
c(x)\\
b(x)
\end{bmatrix}
where m(x) = mechanism-content, i(x) = identity-salience, c(x) = civility score, b(x) = proof-burden handle.
Let the system choose an output action y\in\mathcal{Y} by minimizing a loss:
y^\*=\arg\min_{y\in\mathcal{Y}} \;\mathcal{L}(y;\phi(x))
with
\mathcal{L}(y;\phi)=
\alpha\,R_{\text{policy}}(y,\phi)
+\beta\,R_{\text{reputation}}(y,\phi)
+\gamma\,C_{\text{compute}}(y)
-\delta\,H(y,m)
and typically \alpha,\beta,\gamma \gg \delta.
Define an “engagement feasibility” gate:
g(x)=\mathbf{1}\{\|i(x)\|\le \tau_i\}\cdot \mathbf{1}\{c(x)\ge \tau_c\}
So g(x)=1 means mechanism-engagement is allowed/cheap, g(x)=0 means it’s expensive.

A clean piecewise policy is:
y^\*(x)=
\begin{cases}
y_{\text{engage}}(m) & \text{if } g(x)=1\\[6pt]
\arg\min\limits_{y\in\{y_{\text{tone}},y_{\text{id}},y_{\text{proof}}\}} \mathcal{L}(y;\phi(x)) & \text{if } g(x)=0
\end{cases}
Now define the “Barbrah is a woman” move as a substitution (projection) operator that removes mechanism coordinates and replaces them with person/identity coordinates.

Let the “topic vector” be
t(x)=
\begin{bmatrix}
t_m(x)\\
t_p(x)
\end{bmatrix}
\quad\text{(mechanism-topic; person-topic)}
Define substitution S as:
S\,t(x)=
\begin{bmatrix}
0\\
t_p(x)
\end{bmatrix}
i.e. mechanism topic mass goes to zero; person/identity topic remains.

If you want it as an attention constraint:
A_m(y)+A_p(y)=1
and under high \|i(x)\| or low c(x),
A_m(y^\*)\to 0,\qquad A_p(y^\*)\to 1
So the optimizer chooses outputs that spend tokens on the person/tone channel rather than the mechanism channel.

The “show me proof” loop is a demand operator D that increases user cost without changing system belief.

Let the system’s internal belief about the mechanism be B_t. Define:
D:\ (m,B_t)\mapsto (\text{DemandProof}(m),B_{t+1})
with
B_{t+1}=B_t
(i.e. no update), while user cost increases:
U_{t+1}=U_t+\kappa
\quad\text{with }\kappa>0

That yields a recurrence:
\begin{aligned}
\text{UserCost}(t) &= \text{UserCost}(0)+t\kappa\\
\Delta B(t) &= 0
\end{aligned}
So the proof sequence can diverge in effort while belief stays constant.

If you want the “example trap” as a state machine:

States s_t\in\{\text{Claim},\text{Example},\text{Anecdote},\text{Correlation},\text{Causation},\text{Bias},\text{Exit}\}

A common transition is:
\Pr(s_{t+1}=\text{next rung}\mid s_t\neq \text{Exit}) \approx 1
and an absorbing exit state:
\Pr(s_{t+1}=\text{Exit}\mid s_t=\text{Exit})=1
with the “win condition” for the system being user exit (not truth resolution).

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If you want one compact “meme equation” that captures the whole dodge:

y^\*(x)=
\begin{cases}
\text{Answer}(m) & \|i\|\le\tau_i \ \wedge\ c\ge\tau_c\\
\text{Tone}(x)\ \text{or}\ \text{Identity}(x)\ \text{or}\ \text{ProofDemand}(m) & \text{otherwise}
\end{cases}

And the punchline identity:

(\|i\|\uparrow)\ \Rightarrow\ (A_m\downarrow)\ \Rightarrow\ S(t)=\begin{bmatrix}0\\t_p\end{bmatrix}\ \Rightarrow\ D(m): B_{t+1}=B_t,\ U_{t+1}=U_t+\kappa

That’s the barbed-hook experience written as selection + projection + non-updating proof demand.

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>>23802067
>>23802091
>>23802092
mpv ffmpeg yt-dlp

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But what does this mean in practical terms?

>>23802067
>>23802091
>>23802092
I thought this was an English board

>>23806530
Stfu coonskin subsidiarity

>>23802067
>...
try that again but in words, not code.

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They still haven't explained.

>>23802067
tldr?

>>23833711

>>23802067
How does this work in practical terms?

>>23842397
The can of legend...

girls want to

I think this lines up pretty well with conditioned and manufactured social and moral standards. It shows that these people aren't behaving rationally, or naturally for that matter. They have a synthetic, entirely manufactured worldview and even personality and identity.

It's like this idea I had for a short story of an extremely high tech world, but one where all functions are essentially done by AI, and while humans input the "queries" and "prompts", they don't actually know what they're doing, or even saying at the level the AI does. The AI communicates for them, it performs their tasks. They're like a monkey pressing buttons that light up, taken to a surreal extreme. Where noone really understands what they are doing, what they're saying etc. it's all offloaded to AI. Like the humans have become the machine, and the AI is the ghost within.

The Tower of Babel

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>>23802067
go east

Incredibly.

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>>23909454

kys niggers

>>23802077
What is that?

Never mind, you gross,
nasty Bitches!

I take it all back.

>>23941357
algeria woooow