>>61777607
to grift more money

>>61777607
>free power
>free cooling
win-win. also plz gib gibs.

>>61777607
>Know that current and former Spacex employees (myself included) have historically been incredibly patient and refused to sell even after severe company hardship because they truly believe in the future of the company
>Announce an IPO, giving faith that we might finally be able to take loans against our gigantic bags instead of just refusing to sell them during the biannual stock buyback period
>Immediately dilute our holdings by 20% with dogshit ai slop
>Now everyone is terrified of a Tesla merger which would dilute our holdings by another 50%

Thanks for fucking me in the ass after working me so hard I had a mental breakdown and almost killed myself, Elon. Love you too.

>>61777607
Money magic so you cant know how much money they are losing

>>61777650
don't forget, he genuinely believes his life is a video game and that every other human being is an npc to be manipulated for his amusement

>>61777650
Thanks for playing egghead

>>61777607

every retard and pundit is saying "dood spacex is like the next NVDA like epic rockets we all know its a free 100x bagger after IPO!!!!" so hes trying to dump all his dogshit ventures in there so people don't realize TSLA is a 1.3 trillion mcap 400/pe memestock with negative FCF and 3 years of declining earnings

>>61777666
trips of truth

>>61777685
>every retard and pundit is saying "dood spacex is like the next NVDA like epic rockets we all know its a free 100x bagger after IPO!!!!
do retards actually think this unironically? The IPO is supposed to be like 600 billion dollars, it would obviously not 100x. Do people not understand what marketcap is?

>>61777650
too bad, wagie. I'll need you in at 5 am on saturday btw.

>>61777741
I worked at a bank last year and the wagies would brag about how coming in on saturday at 6 AM for overtime and overnight and weekend 'bonus' pay was a benefit of the job because it 'helped them pay rent'.

People are much more buckbroken than you think.

Elon's almost a trillionaire. He's going batshit insane with power. He has the kind of money that ancient blood cult banker families couldn't achieve even after manipulating world governments and starting wars. Guaranteed he's going to start crashing out way harder than anyone could even imagine. Plus the suspense is probably killing him, tsla needs less than a 50% increase to make him the first triller

>>61777751
What's wrong with wanting to make extra money? That sounds smart to me.

>>61777762
that ancient blood cult family you speak of never ever appears on the list of richest individuals, not because they don't have enough money but because they own all the money. That rich people list is a list of their employees.

>>61777837
if your job doesn't pay enough to normally cover rent and you're working overtime to cover rent, your job is shit and that's not actually a benefit you fucking retard.

>>61777650
>Thanks for fucking me in the ass after working me so hard I had a mental breakdown and almost killed myself, Elon. Love you too.
I know people who work at Tesla. Incredible rough. They also tell me how hard it is at SpaceX.
Praying for you anon.
I don't understand why they can't hire a few extra people for vital teams. Some teams only consist of a few people (global roles by the way lmao)
Keep strong anon, it will be worth it. I believe so at least.

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>>61777607
grok is a turd, spacex is the raisins.

unfortunate really, spacex is the real world-changing technology. musk had to prop his ai crap.

>>61777762
bernard arnault is laughing at elon the grifter

>>61777607
>>61777618
>>61777650
>>61777685
>>61777762

ELon is a genius with this. In space it's very cold, so you don't require a lot of energy to cool. No need for liquid cooling because liquids would freeze in an instant anyway. You basically just need a few big fans.

Cant believe someone never used space to mine bitcoins.

The reason why bitcoin is so expensive is that cooling the video cards is so expensive. If you take that out of the equition by having a bitcoin mine in space, you basically make it back in a heart beat

>>61778227
It's not hard to understand. Musk doesn't fuck about his employees

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>>61778237
actually you can do superconductor computing in space.

while thermal exchange is only through radiation, that goes both ways, so it is indeed very cold in space.

the problem is, industrial space tech is at least two decades away. grok is purely a parasite off spacex. with today's tech, computers in space are a dumb fucking idea.

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>>61778241
spacex is more important than some cunts getting a new car. what the fuck do you even need money for? spacex will lift humanity up into the universe.

>>61777618
>free cooling
Cooling in space isnt as easy as you seem to think

>>61777607
Same thing he did with solar city, use a dying company to inject a bunch of capital into a struggling one to make the struggling one look viable without having to bankrupt they dying company.

Tying Musks other dogshit to his only good business so they don't go belly up.

Humanity isn't going anywhere. Musk and Thiel are building a prison for humanity.

>>61777607
It can save time transmitting stuff by satellite because it takes one less step.

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>>space
>> elon musk

only two explanations here

you are all injected braindead homo bonobo

or

a bunch of shithead fcking with the braindead trannies

>>61778291
We’re going to return to the stars, just not in the way they think that means

>>61778376
i'm sorry, you're... who? just some fat virgin?

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>>61778531
my bad no need to say more, + Im pretty sporty but most importantly we can eat rocks together space fren ! after educating myself with the last official pajeet moon landing, Im fixed and part of the club now, so much that I'm making satellite and elon stickers so I can unvirgin myself, just find out that beautiful women loves intelligent space boys

here is the mic drop for any retarded that try to question the obvious evidences https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dim8elzo5vE

Isn't it hard as fuck to shed heat in space?

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space is so cool, can't believe I missed that for so long

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>>61778589
no, actually you can run at arbitrarily cold temperature using solar power. which would enable superconductive processing which is thousands of times more effective.

that said, with current technology space data centers is scifi. by the time there are space datacenters, you'll be an immortal cyborg. in around 2 decades or so.

>>61778589
Space is like -200 degrees celcius retard

Water would freeze in an instant

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it depend, sometime the sunray can heat the space by 2 or 3 degrees

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>>61777607
>What the FUCK is the point of this?
The grift must continue.

>>61777618
>>free cooling
>>61778237
>You basically just need a few big fans.
That's like the opposite from the truth. Fans don't do anything in a vacuum. Radiative cooling is inefficient and requires a huge surface area but it's difficult to transport the heat to the radiator because it requires coolant which is heavy=expensive.

>>61778615
>Space is like -200 degrees celcius retard
>Water would freeze in an instant
No it wouldn't. Vacuum is a very good insulator. Water only freezes if exposed directly to the vacuum because the evaporation requires energy. If you put it in a closed system it will actually stay warm quite long.

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>>61777607
Is a way of getting funds toward xAI, which of course requires a shit ton of money to run and doesnt produce any significant revenue, let alone profits.
Merging them and making it public will make them swim in cash for a while.

>>61778232
> grok is a turd, spacex is the raisins.
We have shakespeare here foks.

>>61777650
>All your eggs in one basket

Sounds like a (You) problem

> build a data center
> somewhere where every kg of weight is incredibly costly to bring
> where you need shielding against radiation or your chips fry
> and huge radiators to radiate off all the excess heat
> and maintanence is incredibly expensive, if not impossible by humans
> with compute hardware that deprecates every 12 months or so
> meanwhile you have free radiation shielding, cheap solar energy coupled with increasingly cheap storage, cooling (water), low maintentence, and easy access on earth
genius idea Elon, lets build this space station and value it with, hm lets say 5 trillion, for redditors to buy in ?

>>61778237
>In space it's very cold
Absolute retard. Cooling is difficult in space precisely because you only have radiation as a source of heat loss. If you manage to stay out of the sunlight all the time then yeah, it would be very cold.

>>61778258
>spacex
>struggling
Anon they control like 90% of orbital launches.

>>61778976
it's obviously a dumb pipe dream, they're counting on it being easy to market to the masses

>>61779017
To put up a huge network of their own satellites that they can't seem to keep in orbit and operational so they constantly have to replace a bunch even though they can only really seem to be able to give away subscriptions for free to war zones instead of attracting paying subscribers.

>>61777607
I think it's because they see the possibility of luddites destroying data centers on earth as AI takes over. It's to keep them out of reach of the plebs.

>>61778237
no product or tech ever produced under any of his companies was his idea
he is not a scientist
he is not an engineer
he is just an autistic ketamine pedophile junkie who inherited money from daddy

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>>61777607
oh wagie, you thought that 2 hour commute by car was bad? enjoy the 5g acceleration when elon shoots you into his space fab. don't be late.

>>61778232
spacex is currently the only company that can reuse thrusters. The chines LandSpace and other subsidiaries cant. He has a monopoly like it or not in regards to space tech.

>>61778976
How dod they bring the ISS there nigger?

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>>61779079
ok. grok is still a turd. the model itself sucks(because like literally everyone except anthropic they're not investing into interpretability research), and even if it was good, you don't need to sink money into models. you need researchers doing interpretability research, and the actual model can be trained on an old phone, like chinese manage to. grok will just parasitise spacex. once 3rd ai winter hits, it may harm spacex.

>>61777607
>Musk buys twitter for 44B
>turns it into xAI
>rolls that into spaceX IPO
>Twitter now worth 1.5 Trillion
Ok, You Win, Mr. Musk

>>61777607
You remember the magical vacuum tunnel train that elon built between san francisco and LA? How about those solar roof tiles everyone was going to have on their houses? That famous mission to mars that landed the first human on the surface? Those robots elon built a couple of years ago? Well elon is going to build tesla AI now. Next year elons going to build an AI base on thr moon.

>>61777607
He privately values his private hobby companies privately using private valuation metrics.

>muh spaceship company is worth a gorillion bazillion gadadbbarillion dollars, making me the richest man ever.

>may we see your finances for your private companies Elon?

>NO!!!!!!

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>>61778237
If space is so cold, why does the James Webb Space Telescope need so many layers of shielding?

why dont he build a dyson sphere while at it?

>>61777608
fpbp

>>61777607
>What the FUCK is the point of this?
To silence those who kept saying the Muskonomy isn't real. That, and integration between companies that would have otherwise been a customer and service provider.
If Musk is to build datacenters in space, the technical challenges that presents (like cooling) would likely be solved by the engineers at SpaceX, not xAI. SpaceX has the material and hardware system expertise, xAI has the data.
Given Tesla's 2 billion investment into xAI, this merger also fulfills Musk's promise of giving Tesla shareholders a stake in SpaceX, albeit a very tiny one.
>>61778680
>doesnt produce any significant revenue, let alone profits.
xAI/SpaceX's biggest customer will be Tesla, which will act like a money funnel.
If you think about Musk's various ventures, he builds things that his own companies need, not for the sake of business from others. Tesla is the only one that is consumer facing.
All of this hinges on Tesla's Optimus succeeding. If that doesn't work out, xAI doesn't have a business model.

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>>61777607
>Yeah uhm that funny server rack? I'm just going to enter my spaceship and replace it real quick.

>>61777607
Maximize hype before the IPO

>>61777607
No one wants data centers in their neighborhood, so might as well build them in space.

>>61778237
Low ambient temperature doesn't help with cooling when you're in a near-vacuum. Vacuum is the ideal insulator. This is why a vacuum flask is the ideal storage container for keeping your coffee warm.

On Earth, you can be connected to ground, water and/or air, which can serve as heat sinks. In space, you are insulated from the nearest heat sink by hundreds of kilometers of vacuum. You have to create artificial heat sinks in the form of giant radiators, which in turn get rid of the thermal energy by radiating it into space. This is very inefficient.

Stock and market manipulation. Watch him merge tsla next, pump networth to 1Trillion dollars, haha funny number FTW! Hes literally this autistic

>>61778658
>requires coolant which is heavy=expensive
Good thing Elon is planning to do this with his own high volume heavy lift company then.

>>61779085
By spending a lot of money

>>61779697
What are you trying to say? That it's not going to be at least 100x the TCO than running it on earth?

>>61779150
I dunno man, I just thought it would look cool

>>61779052
Heard mufuckas saying they made Hov.
Made Hov say ok, make another Hov.

>>61777607
The IPO is coming this year. spacex was already by far the largest privately owned company, valued at $800B in 2025.

>>61777650
Bro, I know for a fact that SpaceX engines work like 60 hour weeks. The ones in FL get burnt out within 5 years and come over to NASA where you don't have to do shit, it's federal benefits and pay scale, 40 hours per week, and you won't get fired.

>>61777607
Gotta have data centers in space before you have computers in space controlling the planet's ecosystem so they can go haywire so our 4 heroes can go into space to defeat the evil AI.
Duh.

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He's gonna die getting to mars. Hylic rich people like gates would never get it. Nietzsche would be proud of the true overman oligarch of the 21st century. Internet and AI is worthless to him. Dying in oblivion and having a bunch of illegitimate kids is the ubermensch fantasy.

>>61778255
>Cooling in space isnt as easy as you seem to think
Solar powered fans

>>61778255
there’s no medium to transfer heat apart from radiation which is slow as fuck. Sun heats up like crazy. There won’t be any data centers in space it’s just talk for brainlets with money.

>>61777607
the point is to destroy the apex point of pride and suck the air out of the room, replacing air with musk
space travel is the last frontier, a uniting point a lot of people agree on, so the idea needs to be stomped into the ground and shat at, turned into farce

>>61778237
Retard in space you need huge fucking radiators because its a fucking vacuum therefore no way to transfer heat.
If you cool something down, you need to transfer that heat somewhere else, basic thermodynamics, space computing is retarded.

>>61777607
They had to have a reason to go to space and solar panels work well up there and it’s super cold so you don’t need cooling and can overclock. And at the same time they raised a bunch of cash on SpaceX so they had to spend it and AI needs an insane amount of cash so they merged it.
Honestly it’s pretty smart business for now but eventually when the AI bubble pops it’ll now take space exploration down with it.

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>>61784734
Not sure if bait but if not then send me all your crypto right NOW.

>>61781274
>60 hour weeks
>burnt out
that's it? I guess that's more than 9-5 but the way you hear about how spacex dog walks their employees I thought we are talking 100+ hrs at least
wall street interns pull 80+hrs a week at 21yrs old. Even blue collar can pull 60-80hr weeks and that's hard labor too

>>61778255
according to Grok it is.
>>61777607
i can't believe ppl still doubt this guy. i was a hater/doubter for a long time. i remember when he announced he was getting into AI and it was years after companies like Google and OpenAI had been throwing billions at it and I thought
>what a moron
>he is way too late
>he can't catch up by just purchasing 400k nvidia gpus
Aaaaaaand it all worked and Grok is in the running with the others as the best AI on the planet, depending on the update. I stopped doubting his plans.

>>61777607
The point of building data center in space of the point of merging both companies?
The point of merging both companies is that Elon can cash out on xAI, which is unsellable on its own and that he can pad his SpaceX IPO a bit more with those junk assets.
The point of saying that he wants to build data centers in space is that it's the only excuse to merge both companies that sounds minimally plausible. The whole idea is retarded, especially because dissipating heat in space is very hard because you can't make use of conduction and convection.

>>61784812
>>61784797
Challenges of Cooling in Vacuum:
Without atmosphere, heat can't dissipate via convection (air flow) or significant conduction (through materials to air). Electronics generate heat internally, and if not managed, it builds up quickly, risking component failure (e.g., temperatures exceeding safe limits like 85-125°C for aerospace-grade parts).
Orbits expose satellites to extreme cycles: scorching solar radiation (up to 1,400 W/m2) on the sun-facing side, followed by deep cold in shadow. This thermal cycling stresses materials, and dust, atomic oxygen, or UV can degrade cooling surfaces.
Radiation cooling requires large surface areas (e.g., deployable radiators) to emit infrared heat effectively, which adds mass and complexity. It's slower than Earth methods, so high-heat-density AI chips (like GPUs) need careful design to avoid hotspots.

Advantages and How It's Solved:
Passive Radiation: Spacecraft use radiators (large panels coated with materials like vacuum-deposited aluminum or variable-emissivity surfaces) to emit heat as infrared radiation directly into the cold void. This is "built-in" cooling—no fans, pumps, or water needed, which dominate 30-40% of Earth datacenter costs and energy use. For AI datacenters, this means "natural" frigid temps handle dissipation passively, making space more efficient overall.
Advanced Tech: Heat pipes (e.g., two-phase loops) transport heat from electronics to radiators efficiently without power input. Phase-change materials buffer fluctuations, and evaporative systems (like two-phase cooling) provide rapid heat transfer. These are proven in satellites and the ISS, rejecting kilowatts of heat.

Grok also explained that putting data centers in space is complimentary to the existing and expanding Starlink network of satellites. I think the only threat to Elon is a total libtard takeover of govt, they will try and kill his projects just for spite.

>>61784797
for me it was when he negotiated his tesla pay package and passed up salary in lieu of a bajillion shares in 10 years if he could do something unheard of like x10 the market cap x10 the revenue x10 the profits and the board laughed at him and said alright elon sure sure, then he actually did it and the shareholders got butt hurt and tried to sue even though he basically 10x ed their investment

him negotiating a new similar deal in november for a zillion bajillion shares basically means tesla is going to 20x by 2030

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>>61784852
>negotiate
The board is in his pocket, they'd approve anything. Can't wait for his ebin stock rugpull down the road.

>>61784852
exactly. if you pay attention it becomes pretty obvious who the 'main characters' are on this stage.

>>61777607
burying the AI lossmaker inside the profitable actually useful SpaceX corporation so that (((someone))) won't take a loss on the AI sloppa.

>>61777608
fpbp. Musk really is history's greatest grifter.

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>>61784949
On the contrary: he's the modern Thomas Edison, and he's got the deepest pockets on the planet. Also, I want that T shirt.

>>61784881
Are the 73% of tesla shareholders who voted to approve his pay package in 2018 also in his pocket? Do you even know what a shareholder or board of directors is?

>>61785010
Hello i am pajeer parish from mumbai india i have new moon mission for spacex i am also incredible genius i would like to be vice president of spacex

>>61779085
where is the ISS profits margin, nigger?

>>61778249
I believe this is true. But some key teams could really use an addition few people to lessen the load.

>>61778237
absolutely incredible bait
thought it was a lost art

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>>61786298

>>61777608
/thread

>>61777650
>i worked myself to a mental breakdown instead of quitting to safeguard my mental health
>this is somehow my boss' fault
Reminder that these faggots can only push you as far as the collective workforce will let them. As it turns out, you're all a bunch of spineless bitches who let them shove their fists as far up your asses as they wish.

>>61784635
>Solar powered fans
fans don't do shit in a vacuum

>>61777607
Infastructure for the beast system. Just wait until he merges twitter, neurolink and payment processing. You will take the X.

>>61777607
Datacenters in space sits outside of the legal jurisdiction of every country on earth.

>>61777650
No offense but never, EVER trust these fucking corporations. They are staffed by sociopaths. They would sell your mother if it meant it could put their stock price up a couple cents. You are there to make money, not to make friends. If you understand this you will never trust them. Business is business. And in business, people get fucked.

>>61779570
>You can't do that, Dave.

>>61777650
>Being such a good wagecuck and placing all your hopes on a company’s shares to retire on
The absolute state of all (You) stem-related wagecucks. Thanks for playing. Btw, we’re gonna need you to work this weekend too

>>61777650
Absolute state of this Milton.

>>61778615
>>61778676
You're both fucking idiots. Water boils instantly in space due to the pressure.

I am very smart.