>>21970603
Until I see mold. And even then I just eat around it usually.

>>21970608
toughest customer on /ck/ bros

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>>21970603
For cans probably up to five years. As long as there is no major dents

>>21970603
Way too many factors across a huge variety of foods to give a simple answer.
But you already knew that, didn't you anon?

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>>21970603
In my country it's an Expiration Date. "Expiry" has always sounded weird since I first found out countries who do their dates wrong use it. The month goes first.

>>21970603
>the 23rd month
Jesus anon what corrupt turd world shit hole do you come from?

>>21970603
It rarely matters but after experiencing food poisoning (not from canned food) I'm just not willing to take any chances. If food looks even the slightest bit iffy I toss it instantly. Some experiences change you forever, I hope none of you have to experience that hell.

>>21970635
Yeah, that would suck to irrationally be super cautious forevermore. Like those people who never ever drink some spirit again because they got sick on it when they were a dumb teen.

What got you sick was almost certainly nothing "iffy" at all. It was probably from a source you least expected. It's not recently expired stuff that makes you sick. And that's not why they put that on there.

>>21970646
It was some frozen dumplings, no idea why but I think they had pork in them. They weren't even close to being expired but that evening I suddenly understood what people meant when they said they talked about it coming out of both holes at the same time. What a wild ride that was.

>>21970603
I have a can of spam I have been aging for 6 years now. Going to open and consume for science at some point. How far should I take it bros?
10 years?

>>21970603
Depends on the item but usually at least a week past
I don't even think the dates are a liability thing at this point, they're just to get dumbass boomers to throw out perfectly good food to buy more.

>>21970742
I don't believe you. Just throw out that can that you forgot about.

>>21970603
no hard limit. trust your senses, not an arbitrary line in the sand. if it passes the visual and sniff tests, it's more than likely fine. your senses are highly tuned to tell if something is off.

>>21970825
This.

>>21970635
I'm convinced I had some almonds that had an abnormal amount of cyanide in them. It was all I had to eat that day and I quickly descended into a short hell. Vomited so hard I popped blood vessels in my eyes. I'm never going to eat almonds again.

>>21970603
As soon as I get meat, I freeze it so I don't have this problem. I defrost it the day I want to eat it.

>>21970603
It reaaaally depends on the food, like, i've once had some mozzarella that was one or two days into expiration. It was so goddamn bitter, I had put it between some freshly baked bread, when I inevitably taken it out, the bread was absolutely unedible as well. It wasn't the wet kind of mozz that comes as those white balls, but a more processed type. I'd avoid ever eating past expiration date for dairy products and animal products as a whole really.

>>21970857
I can't imagine canned bread ever tasting fine, but at most I assume expired stuff is going to have degraded in quality a bit, especially if it's still sealed. I don't buy too much premade stuff so unless it's dairy or fresh meat, I don't care about the date.

>>21970991
At least it went to use

>>21970615
It doesn't matter if there is a dent. Just eat it.
>Inb4 muh botulism

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>>21970857
>Google canned bread
>It's actually real
>Not just a SpongeBob meme

>>21970603
Until it fails the smell test

>>21970603
look, smell, taste
never had food poisoning

>>21970603
If it doesn't smell bad or look visibly tainted then it's safe to eat.

>>21970603
Not very. Even safe, you lose flavor. I'm not in fucking Kenya.

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>>21970608
don't do that, mold propagates through stuff, even the parts that look fine

>>21970646
Rumplemintz man it's just the taste. Insta gag.

>>21970603
expiry date on stuff like pepsi and vinegars are meaningless.

AFAIK vitamins still work but at 50 percent effectiveness at worst. if they are not wet or stored for 10 yrs+++ they won't rot in dry pill forms. gummy vitamins will spoil at high temps.

>>21971161
They aren't meaningless on DIET Pepsi. Let me tell you I learned that first hand once. Gross.

>>21971161
Pepsi will not go bad (it already is by default) but it will go flat.

I recently used some "better than bullion" that was over 2 years expired and my soup came out great.

>>21971183
Pepsi is the only good Soda. Kill yourself

if it looks, smells and tastes ok its fine. I spent about 3 months before my last move eating all sorts of shit that expired 5-10 years ago. zero issues besides damaged packaging.

>>21970742
i ate spam packs from y2k during covid, little stale but perfectly editable.

>>21970603
if I see mold I bin it, even if it's only a little
If no mold, I will always taste a little bit first

>>21970603
I'll open it simply out of curiosity. Probably eat it regardless of the date as long it looks and smells fine.

Allegedly, deenz actually improve in the can until about the five year mark.

>>21970603
I can usually tell when something is off without reading a stamp by using my superior senses of sight and smell. If you're checking a date then its probably on something you haven't used in a very long time and should probably just toss anyways.

>>21970603
I usually give food past expiration a sight and smell test. If I see mold or it smells sour, I toss it. A lot of my food is frozen until I need it so the date often is irrelevant since it has been vac sealed and frozen for months. For cans, if it is not damaged, the food is almost always safe to eat.

>>21970603
>How far are you willing to go past the expiry date?
canned food never expires.
no food goes bad because of a date printed on it.
since I live in the US and have not seen any product with an expiration date I don't just throw crap away because of a date.

I once ate a yogurt that was 14 months past its best by date.

>>21970615
>For cans probably up to five years.
store properly canned food is good for decades.

>>21970742
canned spam is good for decades.

>>21971161
>AFAIK vitamins still work but at 50 percent effectiveness at worst.
incorrect. they never expire.

>>21971126
Your picture literally tells me the opposite is true

>>21971540
those are roots inside, the food, only the stem parts would be visible

>>21971540
Explain what you think the image is saying

>>21971621
Roots are about the size of the visible part.

>>21971644
I said explain what the picture is saying not mention an observation

>>21970608
t. funguy

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>>21970603
I am not risking my health to save a few euros. Maybe expired food is safe, maybe it isn't, but tell me OP why would I take the risk if I can just go out and buy a new food that isn't expired?

>>21971671
Butter the mould, eat the mould, shit the mould. God, life's relentless

>>21971671
>Maybe expired food is safe
FOOD DOES NOT EXPIRE

>>21970603
depends on what it is
recently I picked up some salt for cheap because the expiry date was about to pass
I'll be using that salt a decade from now

>>21970603
It's a best by date. Not expiration date. A suggestion from the manufacturer.
In the US the only product mandated to have an expiration date is milk.

>>21972820
Salt doesn't expire

>>21972837
your reading skills have though

>>21972859
Ok

I got 93/7 beef marked 40% off because it was packed 2 days ago. I just took it home, broke it apart into smaller packs and froze it.

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>>21970603
>How far are you willing to go past the expiry date?
Far i fell into a depression that made me question how unsafe "unsafe" food actually is
turns out you can eat food that has soured and even be fine
i guess its really a gamble at a certain point
but expiration dates are bullshit and should be used as a warning then anything like hey this shit might be bad not hey this shit is bad and after that legally the onus is on you to figure out whether it is or not

and the whole you can only leave your food out for 2hrs at room temperature is absolute bullshit
you can leave milk out for an entire day and it will most likely be alright and everything just depends on the food

and if youre worried your food might go bad cook it and make it salty
the cooking process will kill anything that may have attached itself and the salt will prevent further shit from attaching
also use a freezer freezers are great and will also kill of shit thats attached

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>>21972993
damn made an entire blogpost and forgot the image

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>If I have more, I will throw expired shit out
>If I don't have more but I'm about to go to the store, I might throw
>If I'd have to go get more, I'll just eat that shit no matter the date
It's based on motivation.

>>21970612
Faggot

>>21970603
>How far are you willing to go past the expiry date?
Depends entirely on the product and how it was stored. But in general, best before does not mean bad after.

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>>21970603
Cans: 3 to 5 years depending on content
Sealed Glass containers: 1 to 3 years
Sealed plasitc (dry): 0.5 to 2 years
Sealed Plastic (wet): a few weeks
Raw meat/fish etc: 1-2 days max

This system only ever failed me one time when I made a soup from one of those dehydrated packages (similar to ramen but no noodles) that was 2 years expired. Tasted just fine, but I was vomiting and having stomach cramps all night.
I am back to eating all the expired foods I can get my hands on, but no more soups.

>>21972825
>the only product mandated to have an expiration date is milk.
nope that is a sell by date.

>>21970742
I saw a video where an autistic guy opened and tried a can of spam from the 1980s to compare it with a new can and it was apparently putrid and inedible. So I'd say somewhere around 20-30 years max, for safety

>>21972993
when I was a poor I routinely would take ground beef that was brown on the outside, scrape off the brown till I got to pink and eat that.

my grandmother often would give us really old hotdogs. the weird thing is I did not know they were old till years later, I bought the same brand and couldn't figure out why they didn't taste the same till one time I forgot about them for a couple of weeks and when I cooked them there was the flavor I expected.

>>21970603
>How far are you willing to go past the expiry date?
>canned
until the can puffs up or leaks it is still good.
>jarred
as long as the lid is not popped it is still good.
>dry foods
unless they have bugs or the remains of bugs in them they are still good.
>anything else
as long as it looks and smells fine it is fine.

there are no expiration dates on food in the US.

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I have instant coffee that's has some sort of cream mixed into it. How long do you think I can keep that shit past the best before date? I'd be ok storing it but it having something to do with cream or milk makes me wary. I'm guessing it's powder so maybe it's ok

>>21974406
It probably just dehydrated milk which is good for years unless moisture somehow gets into it.

>>21970626
>rooty tooty point-n-shooty

>>21971126
Only if said stuff is soft, like bread. You can cut around a moldy vegetable no problem.

>>21974284
you dont even need to scrape off the brown from ground beef. unless it smells, the brown is just oxidation.
but the hot dog thing is making me upset.

>>21970835
it'd be difficult for sweet almonds, even as a rogue abnormality, to have enough amygdalin to make you that sick
chances are there were some strays that weren't pastuerized properly and you ended up getting fucked by salmonella
or, very unlikely but possible, somehow some bitter almonds ended up in the batch in which case you probably could have won a lot of money in a lawsuit

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for what it's worth to the thread,
many dates you see on food do not apply to the food itself but for the packaging holding it
that's why you see bottles of water with best by/expiration dates
it's not telling you that water expires, it's telling you that after a certain amount of time the bottle itself will start to break down and leech into the water

>>21974449
mmm microplastics

>>21974277
Oh yeah, you are right. Still the only one that is required. The rest are usually to sucker people into throwing food away and buying more.

>>21974426
>you dont even need to scrape off the brown from ground beef. unless it smells,
duh dumbass. and yes it smelled idiot.

>>21974449
>it's not telling you that water expires, it's telling you that after a certain amount of time the bottle itself will start to break down and leech into the water
no it's not. it's preying on retards.

>>21970603
depends on the product in question
with fish it's exactly zero days..already had the pleasure of a fish poisoning. conserved stuff can last considerably longer than expiry (we know that since the fallout games),

>>21974449
the bottle begins leeching itself as soon as it's created

>>21970603
Depends on the product. I had a yoghurt today that expired last May.

>>21970635
>>21970646
this is actually an animal response. Food poisoning is the strongest conditioning there is in the animal world. You can condition an animal to fear anything, but he'll eventually get over it. You can use electric shocks, loud noise, anything, yet with time he'll get over it. But if the same animal gets food poisoning from one particular food, he'll never touch that again. I guess it's just a strong survival mechanism.

Just had deens from 2022 yesterday. Just fine. Taste and texture was good. Oil packed.

>>21970603
If it's canned I'll eat it if the can isn't damaged or bulging.

>>21974449
Yeah, you're right. Plastic bottles remain in the corrosive, salty ocean for thousands of years, but you better drink your water bottle within a month or sitting on your shelf at ambient room temperature or the bottle will start to break down.

You have literally no evidence for your claim because you made it up.

>>21975862
>>defending manufacturers and their microplastics in 202currentyear

>>21975871
>Pivots hard because it was pointed out that he totally made up absolute nonsense.

>>21975875
bro you're so right
water bottles are dated because the water expires, silly me

>>21975885
I'm sorry that you have no evidence for your original claim and you can't let this go so you just keep replying nonsense

>>21970603
After a really bad case of food posining, I'm not willing to go NEAR the expiry date by at least 3 months (depends on type of food)

When I was moving grandma out of her house I ate peanut butter from 1996. This was in 2020.
It was literally older than my cousin because grandma stopped having peanuts in the house over her peanut allergy in 1999. It was a jar she buried and we missed up until the end.
Some stuff you can just tell it's not really rancid. That's the farthest past a best buy date I've ever eaten.

>>21975887
https://www.livescience.com/32636-why-do-bottles-of-water-have-expiration-dates-.html

https://www.fountain-filters.co.uk/blog/how-long-does-bottled-water-last-72.html

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/22098/why-does-bottled-water-have-expiration-date

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7927525/#:~:text=Conclusions,antimony%20levels%20will%20be%20minimized.

https://www.livescience.com/do-water-bottles-expire

>>21971512
Old vitamins and pills in general that aren't just one pure compact substance like aspirin smell horrific. Buy a multivitamin bottle and leave it in your cabinet for a year and then sniff it I dare you.

>>21976051
I don't have to let it sit a year, I can just pop my bottle open and get a vomit inducing whiff right now
goddamn vitamin B smells terrible

/ck/ the kinda guy desperate to display achievement in drinking milk a week past use-by

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>>21970603
>cans
Basically until I see evidence of botulism It's probably fine. I've seen Steve eat cans of stuff almost 100 years old (and almost die, but he didn't) so how bad could it be?

>>21970626
>we don't use (word) in my country we use (the same word but slightly longer)

>>21974462
Nope. The only food item in the US that requires an EXPIRATION date is infant formula

>>21976200
>goddamn vitamin B smells terrible
i love the smell of redbulls

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>>21971183
Lemon Pepsi is superior but these days i am a root beers and Mountain Dew man.

>>21975723
fish does not go bad until it smells fishy. fresh and edible fish smell mostly of nothing or at most the ocean.

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>>21975732
it did not expire.

>>21975762
of course it was fine it was canned.

>>21975862
correct

>>21975888
there are no expiration dates on food.

>>21976051
the US military did a study on whether medicine actually expires or goes bad. they found that when stored properly out of the sun and at room temperature every medicine tested was perfectly fine and did not degrade.

>>21976200
I like it.

>>21978519
>the US military did a study
forgot to mention the study lasted 20 years.

I don't care what they print on there, if it reeks or tastes funny I won't eat it, simple as, can be years off or from the expiry date

>>21978629
>bad before the expiration date
Maybe you should quit picking up dairy products from the canned goods section?