>>22048781
Tempted to buy one to pull a reverse uno when british people get smug about electric kettles

>>22048781
do you drink a lot of tea and would having hot water on hand be convenient for you? if so, then yes.
there are people who buy huge permanent direct-piped systems for over $1000.. they are the ones who should really be asking if it's worth it. but a little $180 thing yours is just a matter of if you'll get some joy out of it.

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>>22048781
bruh we've been over this with rice cookers a thousand times. Just use the stove top

Generally they're only useful at home if you have 3-4 heavy tea drinkers in the house.

If you're REGULARLY boiling water 3-4 times a day for tea for 2-3+ people, then yes it can make sense to own one.

For the average household it makes no sense, for an individual, it almost never makes sense.

The most useful places for these are office kitchen/kitchenettes.

>>22048800
why are you pretending that convenience isnt a good reason to buy something? stovetop takes time to boil water, you have to get out the pan, fill it, wait for it to boil, then put the pan away. this is push of a button on demand.

>>22048781
if you need constant hot water then sure. we run a woodstove all winter (novemeber-march pretty much all day every day) and so have similarly endless hot water ready to go but just end up with loads of full thermos cantines hanging around because dont drink tea 20 times a day.

>>22048781
Anything japanese is worth it?

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I don't like the stationary design of it. If you're filling cup after cup of tea leaves and then filling your cup noodles, okay. But I like the simplicity of my bonavita, which has been working 10 years straight.

>>22048830
is that a question

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>get hottest water from sink
>put it on gas stove
>it's boiling within 3-5 minutes

>>22048835
not bad at all for a homosexual themed kettle

>>22048835
this is cute, i actually wanted the kettle for my mom. are there any other brands that are reputable to be 100% stainless steel and no plastic?

2:40 in the microwave

>>22048845
5 seconds from the button

>>22048835
whats the deal with the big spout?

>>22048845
>radiationing poisinoning your water

>>22048781
Yes, just buy any electric tea kettle.
They arent expensive and they work great, even at 120v.

>>22048818
People who trade counter space for convenience deserve neither

>>22048781
I heckin LOVE boiling water in plastic!

>>22048835
>Have stove
>NO. I NEED TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON A SEPARATE ELECTRIC HEATER TO BOIL WATER
I'll never understand this shit, it's the most retarded purchase of all time.

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>>22048818
>Boiling water in a pan

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>>22048781
Not if you're just a single chud sitting at home drinking a couple cups of tea a day. Use pic related for that purpose
>>22048859
It's for pourover coffee. Extremely gay design, very small capacity, dumb spout that releases a narrow piss stream instead of an actual pour.
>>22048841
There's a reason they tell you not to do this. It's gross

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>people itt unironically use the stove to heat water to make tea or coffee
3rd worlders jfc

>>22048955
Maybe if you live in yuropoor where houses have the retarded water storage tanks. Water heaters in the US are connected directly to the mains, it's no different than the water you're putting in your goy kettle. As long as your water heater isn't 30 years old and rusted out you're fine.
>>22048954
>>22048957
weak bait

>>22048899
just say you have a small low income kitchen bro

>>22048957
I used to be like that. I disavowed toasters because I could use a pan on the stove. Never used the oven because I had a dutch oven, etc. It's more of a meme lifestyle that you do to challenge yourself when you have nothing better to do with your time. After I stopped being an unemployed NEET I cut all that out

>>22048995
>Water heaters in the US are connected directly to the mains
No shit. They are still tanks that collect water where it sits waiting for you to use it. Luckily most Americans are not as disgusting as you

>>22048995
You use a KETTLE. not a pan, which is retarded and inefficient and will result in tons of steam loss.

>>22049027
Closed off, unexposed to the elements. Anything to justify your retarded appliance I guess, not my money.
>>22049039
Cheapest kettles near me are $12. If you boil water and immediately turn it off, you only lose around 1-2% of the volume. $4 per thousand gallons, I'd have to lose 3000 gallons of water for the teapot to make sense. So I'd have to boil 150,000 gallons of water. A massive swimming pool. It literally does not fucking matter. I'll just keep using the pot I already have. Sneed

>>22048781
we can quantify:
Case 1: You get a ~3 L heater. You fill it in the morning (to full). Your cup of tea is ~300 mL volume. You will have 10 cups of tea today. That will occur between e.g. 7:30 AM and 3:30 PM, so over 8 hours. (The time window doesn't matter, just the total time you will keep the boiler plugged in).
You will need to bring the water you initially fill up from room temperature (say 298 K) to boiling (398K). Then you will need to hold it at 398 K for 8 hours.
To bring the water to boiling: E_heat = m*c*dT.
3 L = 3000 g
(3000 g)*(4.184 J/g K)*(75 K) = 941,400 J
To hold it there for 8 hours: Say a 20 W standby power: (20 W)*(8 hours)*(3600 s/hr) = 576,000 J

Total: 1,517,400 Joules

Case 2: Using a kettle to boil 3 L:
Just the 941,400 J, of course 1/10th of that each time, assuming 300 mL per use. Doesn't matter, as long as same volume.

Conclusion: If the upfront premium of one these (cheapest: 40 USD more than a kettle, Amazon) plus the cost of 576,000 J of energy is worth it, then yes, you should purchase one.

>>22049060
Boiling water uncovered means it takes longer to boil. With a big pan you have lots of surface area for the water to evaporate and cool too.

>>22048999
>doesn't have the time or money to afford boiling water manually
Hurry to your wage cage buddy

>>22049092
>576,000 J
How much is that?

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>>22049039
And what do you do with that steam? Are you running a steam liner?

>>22049092
Where are you getting 20W? The power required to hold it at temp. depends on a great many factors that control one thing, heat loss which is how much energy you need.

>>22049027
so it's sitting in a tank waiting for you to use it
but when it's in the pipe between the main and your tap it's perfectly fine!

>>22048837
Not yet?

>>22049060
>Closed off, unexposed to the elements
You have indian tier understanding of hygiene
>>22049188
You're almost there. A boiler concentrates the stuff that's already in the water when it gets to your house. Intentionally opting for lower quality drinking water to save 3 minutes of boiling time is the most 3rd world thing I've ever seen.

>>22049290
Post skin.

>>22048781
>With temperature control
Since green tea is best brewed at around 70 degrees Celsius, this feature was very useful for Japanese people, but you probably won’t need it.

>>22049425
what if I'm brewing green tea?>>22049125
I'm a neet, my kitchen is bigger than yours, and i dont need to boil water in a can on a trashcan fire. i cant imagine how that must make you feel.

>>22049427
Are you really still drinking green tea?

>>22049434
are you gonna tell me it has cyanide laced seed oils in it or something

>>22048781
we have one of the vacuum insulated ones. wife loves it because she can fill it with filtered water and always have it at the proper temp for brewing her tea, no waiting.
kinda pricey but whatever. I like all my zojirushi appliances.

>>22048781
just buy a regular ass whistling kettle for $15 and call it a day. These require more cleaning and unless you're making 18 cups of tea/instant coffee a day I don't see the point.

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>>22048800
mogs your shitty stove top.

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>>22048859
Gooseneck spout for more controlled pouring. The design dates back to the 19th century.

>>22048781
No. Just get an electric kettle with temperature control.

>>22048934
It's so you can keep it at your desk and dont need to go to the kitchen every time you want a cuppa

>>22048800
I've done the side by side for stove to kettle. Kettle is the best overall solution. Stove takes forever next to the kettle. A good kettle has multiple temp settings for tea, up to boiling. Done in under 5min or 2.5m for the brits.

Any other solution is just fancy for the sake of fancy.

Also kettles are great for instant ramen, reconstituting broth, adding hot water to cooking pots, etc. not just coffee/tea/hot chocolate. You can even heat a small bit of water to pre-warm dishes prior to serving the main food. Hot dish, hot food. And if you need some REALLY hot water for cleaning, also useful there too.

>>22048841
You *can*, but it's gross from a tanked heater. And you better hope you don't live in Flint or some other contaminated place.

>>22049188
Here's what is trapped inside that tank:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ppNPRbNysg4

Most people fail to flush their water heater tank of all that shit.

>>22050376
Oh no! Not the accumulation of the minerals in the water! Crazyyyy

>>22048781
What's the advantage to this over a kettle?

>>22052010
It's on-demand

You have it turn on in the morning, and itll keep water boiling all day at the press of a button, no delay.

The zoji ones usually also offer multiple temps for different drinks so if your family/office always drinks green tea you can set it lower than just below boiling.

>>22048781
It was one of the best purchases I made. I use it for tea, filling my moka pot, and for cooking. If you're making multiple cups of tea a day, I think you'd like it for sure. If you're debating between two sizes, get the larger. Refilling it up and reboiling it to temp is the only chore and the longer you can go, the better.

Wouldn't this be incredibly expensive to run since you're boiling water all day?

>>22052071
No they're super insulated.

I think the higher end vacuum ones is like 15-20W, so like a phone charging, or 2-3 LED lamps.

>>22052078
Unfortunately, though, fewer people are using it in Japan

>>22052635
They're just not really necessary unless you have an office where a ton of people are drinking tea throughout the day.


Most people can wait 1.5-3 minutes to boil water in a kettle.

>>22048781
We have a water dispenser that does cold and hot.

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>>22052078
>15-20w same as a cellphone or a couple of LEDs
You're hilarious

>>22052661
My LED bulbs are 5-12W each.

That's 2-4 LED lamps

My phone charges at up to 45W.

>>22052661
The highend phones like Oneplus 15 can fast charge up to 150w

>>22048781
I have this exact model and love it. I use it every day for coffee, tea, and heating up MREs. The hot water is just ready to go all the time. No fucking with a kettle or the microwave. My wife was doubtful we needed to spend $300 on a countertop appliance, but admitted last year that she really likes it.

It does scale up though. You need to descale it every week.

>>22048781
I've been interested in having one of these, but they seem to easily build up minerals and oxidize into rust in hard to reach places.
An electric kettle is cheaper and easier to clean, but as far as I know there is no keep warm or direct temp setting like these dispensers have.

>>22053264
>put hot water in thermos
>.....
>profit

>>22053264
I'm not sure how it works but there are definitely kettles where you can set a specific temperature. I've never seen one with keep warm though, I think you'd have to have a lot more insulation than is practical for it to make sense.

>>22049472
green tea is literally a toxin

if you want it and can afford it. i like having hot water nearby my battlestation especially when it gets cold but i hate refilling it everytime

>>22048781
I had one that looked very similar and I like a thermos with a heater in it but I would get one with a manual pump since my electric pump failed after a few months of light use.

>>22048781
I wouldn't for two reasons, mold/limescale so it needs regular cleaning, and 99% of the time it's just going to sit there being a zombie appliance wasting electricity constantly keeping the water warm.

>>22053709
You can set it on a timer so it doesn't do that and only gets warm and stays warm when it's needed.

But if you constantly want on-demand hot water 24/7/365 it'll use about $0.80-3/day in electricity depending if it's just sitting there staying warm or being used and refilled/reheating a few times a day.

I have never had delicious hot tea, and I'm convinced it's a myth unless you travel to China, India, or Japan and have monks at a temple/monastery make it/serve it to you. It must be a heavily acquired taste.

>>22049039
> result in tons of steam loss.
How much fucking water are you boiling to make your tea?? I use enough to fill my mug, plus a little extra to compensate for boil-off. It would take multiple lifetimes of daily tea making for this to compound into A ton, let alone "tons", you hyperbolic faggot.

>>22048781
I've got one, it's pretty handy. I tend to drink 3 or so liters of tea in a day and I use it for things like instant noodles for lunch or hot water bottles for dealing with aches and pains and my wife uses it for a few different things too. Depending on how hard or soft your water is you'll need to descale it at different times, with how my water is it's about once every 10 months or so, but there's stuff to make that quick and easy.

>>22054040
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