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Just a simple thread dumping ideas for wrestling and such and such. If you want to get involved fill free to join in.
As of right now there is some progress for a story and some lore being build up.
Here the thread from last time in this link:https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/152194471/#q152194471
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It's a set story but people can add their own characters and they'll be fitted in as best as can. But theirs basic lore that wasn't added.
Basically, world of fighters and wrestlers and they have a rank system and group called UWF who rule world and uses a lot of Invincible fight girl as rough base but slowly branching into own concept
But mostly have a few main stays so far, but again someone will probably post info on them soon
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>>152288159
>Not using any of the characters from the last thread
>Not Mixed Martial Maidens
You failed, OP.
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Yeah that's a better title.
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>>152288159
Reposting this demon babe ref. I hope the anon that drew her draws her as a fighter she's got a great design and personality.
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I like this art style very much. Can anyone post other girls drawn by this anon?
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https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/152194471/#q152287075
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>>152289399
To be honest I thought changing princess to queens was an upgrade.
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Also, now that we have some lore and official designs we should focus on the story before adding in other characters or ocs.
Want to give me your brief synopsis ASSMAN?
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I don't know how it would fit into the kinky furry fucking setting but it would be hot to have a setting where nuns and miko engage in formal MMA duels with demons and yokai. I want to see Sister Mary tap a kitsune with a leg lock.
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Synopsis for what? There's so many potential storylines as is! I will reiterate that I'm very much a fan of this storyline in particular:
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>>152266177
But NOT because I'm looking for characters to ship, and the coffee date epilouge sounds like it would be absolutely adorable if it were fleshed out. DEFINITELY not.
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Have an easy story line.
>Young socially awkward nun moves to a party college town experiencing supernatural happenings.
>Is extremely modest and straightlaced so she doesn't fit in except with the social outcasts.
>She was raised in the art of mystic combat by a female version of El Santo
>When danger threatens, she strips down to a fighting costume and engages in mystic duels with vampires/succubi/ghosts/ that take place in giant glowing pentagram sigils she summons out of nowhere that lock the combat to the sigil.
>Monsters that submit to her in the sigil are marked with the seal of Solomon and are pacified and have to obey her.
>The danger is that the seal backfires if she taps out to the monster, then she's forced to do the monster's bidding until the seal's safety kicks in and dissolves in 24 hours.
>Rivals and frienemies include a goth witch that pretends to hate her but admires her purity and heart, a perfectionist kitsune miko from Japan that thinks she can do her job better, and a mostly-reformed succubus who has a crush on the same guy the nun's into.
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Here's a main character, backstory, and supporting cast all set up.
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>>152289782
As far as I know marnie may be the MC, while Tamer is for sure the antagonist. I dont know if she will be the antagonist dor the entire series or just one arc. For now will jot down some ideas and personalities as see what sticks. We already have the previous thread as a reference.
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>>152289782
There wasn't much to Marnie besides being ultimate fight girl with a different haircut and there wasn't much to tamer besides being furry ryona.
>>152289843
This is probably the most viable thing in these threads so far in terms of being a tiny bit better than wank material.
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>>152289880
Dont forget about the ranking system. Surprised people glossed over this idea.
We should also probably discuss how rank should work.
I already discussed how the basis for it is here >>152199122
Rankings based on Winning matches, Popularity and misc actions.
But should probably add in more depth to this as well.
Like low ranking or weak wrestlers beating stronger ones increasing their rank by the twice the amount while the one that lost loses twice the amount.
Wrestlers can fight outside the ring. Regardless of who wins or loses they increase or decrease in their rank is not as much in comparison to official matches.
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Anon brings up a really great point. I think we should make a sub rankings for separate sections besides world rankings
Like rankings for towns and cities. For continents, nationals and states. Maybe if we get far we can also do, planet solar system and galaxy rankings as well.
Specific ranks should also gain benefits like discounts or free stuff as well or exlcusive stuff based on their rankings either in towns and etc. Like free equipment or half off on meals.
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>>152289880
Not gonna lie im glad I wasnt alone how I felt about Tamer.
I think just making her a full blown racist that discrimates against non human people is a better character then whatever people were making for her.
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>>152289932
She would be better if toned down. She can still be a little kinky and challenge furries to hair matches and kiss my foot matches and stuff like that without fucking them into traumatized barely functional sex slaves.
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It's funny that millions of television audiences are...okay with tamer turning women into sex slaves on camera.
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>>152289688
Thanks. Since we were missing a central plot and protag, I figured the least rude thing to do was write a sidestory or mini-comic storyline that could lead people back to the main plot. It's vague enough that you can expand on it with whatever you want once everything else starts to get figured out.
Yeah also, they would be cute to ship. It's like those Joshi couples, they don't usually do anything too overt but you just know something is bubbling. Their powers are fun for a tag team, too. Mixing vines with inertia powers has tons of fun potential but I'll shut up for now.
Really wanna see a definitive story line to go off of first but if some anon doesn't put pen to paper, I might give it a shot late Wednesday or Thursday. Got work and its comic day
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>>152289932
I also mentioned that making Tamer a "Seal clubber " type of fighter. Always attacking and going after wrestlers that spare either inexperienced or handicapped. Whenever she fights wrestlers that are actually experience she struggles heavily and embarrasses herself in the process. When she starts to struggle she starts to heavily rely on her stolen feral abilities and becomes monstrous in the process. Effectively being a hypocrite.
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>>152290033
Honestly the only thing we need right now is a strong premise but kept simple.
We could probably have marnie start off wrestling initially as semi hobbies/interest but is forced to do it as a proffesion to help save her friends and help farmhouse injuries?
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>>152288434
I really like the idea of being able to introduce new characters into the series by having them all come under one roof for one purpose, in this case to get down and dirty in an arena. Makes me wonder if such a venue could be our central hub, allowing us to get a glimpse into every character and their story.
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I like shipping characters and I cannot lie. Not to mention complex and unique dynamics and relationshipa are a great way to flesh out not only the cast, but the world.
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Wouldn't having the whole planet be wrestlers make them seem less special? If every fight could be spectated and turned into a viewer experience, then it makes televised matches less special. If there's only one league, you take away any kind of fight for viewership.
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>>152290221
Heres her design so far.
>>152290185
We cycled through bunnygirl, spider girl but unfortunately some folks here stated that anthros as a MC isnt really a good idea
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>>152290207
Nun has a lot of relationship drama potential.
>Good Succubus wants to steal her man, but is envious of the Nun's purity and secretly likes her.
>Witch goth rival crushes on her but would rather die than reveal it.
>Miko rival crushes on the Witch because of how loose and careful and wild she is.
>Nun is completely hetero and saving herself for marriage and frustrates everyone.
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I'm gonna repost one I spitballed last thread that I added. Gonna pop some other one-offs as they come.
>Crescent Mako: From the aqua planet Ker Ys, Ys Navy dropout Crescent Mako treats every match like a naval engagement: identify the threat, control the space, sink the target, and enjoy every second of it. She earned her moniker from her toothy grin.
>The reason for her dropout is unknown. All that is known is that it drives Mako to be number 1.
>Out of the ring, she's a bit of a tourist when it comes to food, willing to try anything. Anything.
>Seen chewing on license plates. She likes those.
>Wears a mouth guard in matches. Not for her safety, no. Her teeth grow back real quick. It's to stop her from biting her opponents. She way more viscous in matches where she doesn't have to wear it.
1. Shark And Awe (Diamond Cutter): If she smells a way to hit the move, she will hit it outta nowhere in a almost feeding frenzy like way.
2. Dead Calm Clutch (Crossface): A sudden crossface hold caught during a charge or take down attempt. Perfect as a momentum-killer.
Finisher: Crossing the T (TKO):
A TKO to the proper extreme. Launches into the air with her victim and crashes into the ring.
>Entrance Gear: Navy coat and hat.
Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8v9DnZBc-Q
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Would it be better if instead of the UWF, there were some aliens/creatures of the earth/whatever etc that gifted powers to the world solely so that they could watch fun matches, and these organizations and leagues popped up in hopes of getting further boons or wishes from these higher powered beings? Easy incentive for new OCs to be made, easy explanation for the powers, and easy reason for villains to pop up who want power and/or glory all for themselves.
Some people can be fighitng for their wish. Some just want the money they gain from doing well to support their family or villages. Some just want the fame. Some may be in it just to keep things fair and beat up the cheats who try to ruin the fun.
You can spin it off into them eventually accepting the world's mightiest warriors to join galactic televised leagues in the future, but keeping it planet scale is cleaner to start
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I mean technically thats what this whole thing was supposed to be about. A never ending rank climbing of various wrestlers from different races trying to becomes the best wrestler in the galaxy while taking cues from IFG. But were really straying away from the concept at this point.
That also followed this ranking system. >>152289909
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>>152290263
And we can just take from the Ars Goetia for opponents.
>Baal
Big bad dommy mommy and final boss.
>Andras
Looks like an angel. Discord powers. Makes the Nun and her allies fight each other before one of them takes her down.
>Andromalius
Serpent girl.
>Camio
Siren girl
>Haagenti
Griffin girl made out of gold. Strong, prideful, honorable. Won't resort to tricky, but the Nun and the friends are conflicted because they might have to resort to trickery to beat her.
You could do an entire series off Nun, Miko, Ex-Succubus, and Goth witch Pokemon collecting the Ars Goetia demons.
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Which demon is >>152288601
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botis
She's Botis.
>Horns
>Big fanged teeth
Yep it's Botis.
She goes by Bo, though.
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>>152290416
I got one named melira that was drawn by cyberlord1109.
You want beast and robot girls to?
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Nta that called her lame, but I can see why people would think that. /co/ has joked a lot in the past about the oversaturation of boring generic brown girl protagonists, and then we go ahead and make our protagonist a boring brown girl. It doesn't really make sense. Now, obviously it makes more sense when you consider it's original concept as a parody of IFG, but the more it leans away from the parody aspect the less a generic brown girl protagonist makes sense.
Even if she isn't an anthro, I think it wouldn't hurt to get a bit more creative with her design.
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>>152291251
I vote for the Nun as the MC. She starts out wrestling demons as part of her job then starts fighting them in the ring when she learns they've been wrestling in it. She doesn't have anything against demons that don't menace humanity, but her job is being able to beat all demons, so she challenges the good demons to improve her skills and maybe put them on notice that humans aren't as weak as they seem. She's also interested in fighting against aliens and other weird creatures to learn new moves and stuff.
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I mean, with all kinds of fighters around you could have a group of nuns or a single nun fighting for her church. Going out to make money in the ring or under a disguise. Like the classic luchador priest.
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That could part of the reason the demon hunter nun steps into the ring. Not only is she interested in testing her skills against the demons that fight in the promotion, demon hunting doesn't pay for shit, so she's got to make ends meet.
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Let me see if I can make a little bio for the nun.
Name: Maria Guzman
Occupation: Theology student (cover), paranormal investigator of the Order of the Silver Saint
Personality: Kind, pious, forgiving. Raised by warrior nuns and so is socially awkward.
Costume: Wears a full habit when not fighting. When fighting, she does a magical girl transformation and wears something like a luchardora MMA outfit. Barefoot, shorts, top. Hair looks like >>152291449
with a ribbon reminiscent of a nun's hood. I'm not sure if she should have a mask or not, since she's not exactly mysterious, though it would be sort of cute if she was comedically awful at disguising herself. She could wear a small cross to take the place of her mask as the precious object she wagers against her opponent in important matches.
Goals: Protect the college town she's posted at from supernatural evil, defeat Bael the demon queen, test herself in the fight promotion against good demons and win some money because the Order of the Silver Saint is a poor nonprofit.
Fighting style: Very similar to old-school luchador wrestling like what El Santo did. She does a little high-flying and rope moves, because that's what people expect when you think luchadors, but she's really more about ground fighting and submissions.
Finishers: Uses El Santo's "horseman" submission, which was a camel clutch. She calls it the "pray for mercy." El Santo also liked using Boston crabs, and so she does as well, and calls her Boston crab the "Francis Xavier" after the legend of St. Francis Xavier and the crab.
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Powers and weird abilities: Emits holy light which dims and grows with the strength of her fighting spirit. She always has a faint golden glow when fighting and if she's about to tap out the glow flickers and then vanishes. The glow increases her strength and she can project it through her body into people to either strengthen them (this makes her good in tag matches to the point rules might have to be made about it) or weaken them. Opponents facing her glow describe it as numbing and exhausting, but not painful. The pain comes from the submission hold. It's not hellfire, it's like anesthetic angel light.
Shoving the glow into people takes from the glow protecting her body and strengthening her, so she likes to save it until she's got her opponent in a submission hold and then dump the glow into them. This can backfire on her if she spends too much glow and her opponent gets loose as it takes her time to work up the will to restore her glow.
When Maria is particularly worked up, she can fire bolts of glow from her hands, but this requires her willpower to be overflowing. Most of the time, she can't fire them.
Maria has one more ability. She can summon a giant glowing sigil to cover the ground. This locks her and her opponent to the sigil with an invisible force field. This is very useful in demon hunting as it locks her battles to a small location and keeps the surrounding area from being wrecked, but not so much when a fight is already taking place in a ring. Still, her sigil provides some advantages, and management lets her use it just because it looks really cool.
Flying opponents can't evade her, because she can make the "roof" of the forcefield small, and over time she can shrink the sigil to force her opponent closer and closer to her. Since she's a submission expert like El Santo, she typically wants her opponent to right next to her.
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The contrast is deliberate. She's cute, but fights like El Santo. She's a socially awkward goober who wears a habit in public, but she's the one protecting them from demons. People think she's stuck-up and fanatical because of how she looks, but she's actually very chill, and can even be friends with demons. The Order of the Silver Saint sounds like an ancient and powerful conspiracy, but they're broke. She's incredibly hot, but is determined to save herself for marriage. Her powers are based in healing and protecting, but she uses them to whip ass.
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We've got a nun who looks to be a promising MC, but what about the demons she wrestles? Anyone want to take a stab at fleshing out the demon girl?
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I like her!
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I liked this idea so decided to draw a simple nun girl design. Not sure if it's exactly what you were picturing, but hopefully you enjoy it.
This is just her "casual" attire, I haven't gotten around to drawing up her wrestling outfit. Let me know your thoughts.
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>>152293125
That's great! Very humble and wholesome just like I pictured. Could you change the blue in her habit to black? I think making black and white her colors would be for the best since it'll pop with her aura glow in fight mode.
I'd love to see what you draw for her fight outfight!
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>>152293211
Sure, I went with blue originally since I figured it was a more protagonist-y color but black might work too and is more classic nun.
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>>152293211
Gm anon. How about this get upas a ref, would this be an ok wrestling attire. Or something more softer?
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>>152293253
It looks good. I think black would be Maria's color. She doesn't want to stand out, so she'd gravitate to black, the irony being she draws a lot of attention to herself walking around in a habit.
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Maria's fight outfit should be modest, not just for her characterization but to contrast with what her demon opponents are likely to wear.
I see it being mostly a stripped down version of her casual wear. No shoes, though I'm nor sure if she'd fight fully barefoot or wearing her stocking. Maybe we can do a compromise where she's wearing stirrup socks?
Her dress is cut in half to make a midriff. The skirt is shortened as is the white neck part. No sleeves.
Her face might be the trickiest part to get right. No hood, so more of her hair will be exposed, though I'm not sure how long her hair would be. She'd keep a white headband, though it should probably be smaller than the white portion of her hood.
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>>152293377
Because Maria fights like El Santo, meaning she mostly uses her arms. She's going to be throwing punches and grappling with her arms. Her arms are where she's going to be throwing and projecting most of her aura during attacks so making them bare emphasizes all that.
Of course, she's probably choked out a demon with her stocking legs. You know, once or twice.
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Here I go.
Name: Botis "Bo"
Occupation: Countess of Hell, Professional Fighter, Sometimes Referee
Personality: Mischievous, flashy, prideful, trolling. She's sometimes a pain to interact with, but as the Ars Goetia says she "brings the favor of friends an enemies" and can get along with pretty much anyone.
Costume: Opposite of Maria. Sexy, showy, flashy. Basically a bikini with fancy armlets and anklets so that it doesn't look like JUST a bikini.
Goals: Kick ass, create fans, make money, have fun.
Fighting style: Likes using throws and trips to keep her opponent off balance. Likes to use flashy leaping attacks. Her deadliest weapon is psychology. She knows how to get the crowd on her side and against her opponent and knows just what to say to intimidate and demoralize her opponent..
Finishers: Legchokes because they let her wave and blow kisses to the crowd.
Powers and weird abilities: "Brings the favor of allies and enemies." Bo is supernaturally charismatic and impactful in speech. The crowd is always rooting for her and booing her opponent. She can demoralize an opponent with just a few cutting remarks whispered under her breathe, or enrage them into making a careless mistake, or cower them to fighting too defensively, or convince them to go easy on her.
She can basically change the emotional state of her opponent just by talking to her. Talking is the keyword here. If she can't talk because she's being choked or smothered, her power doesn't work.
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Here's round 1 of Maria fight outfit sketches.
>Design 1
Simple cute leotard, I quite like it although maybe it's too indecent. I tried to at least lean into cuteness with it.
>Design 2
Same thing but now with a modesty cloth.
>Design 3
Leotard now has legs, at the cost of the stockings/socks. I still find it pretty cute.
>Design 4
More sporty. Probably my least favorite but I don't hate it.
As mentioned she's sleeveless, so the cuffs aren't connected to anything (like in bunnygirl outfits). Just went with something simple for the hair.
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>>152293361
Would this be a good references for her as a finisher.
https://youtu.be/2sPntvvcrx4?si=DsPhddIVt_Mq21V-
Its basically a special ,ove that kicks her opponent and dove bombs on her victim. She releases her holy powers and excorcise her opponent. It does lethal damage to demons.
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I'm leaning to 1 or 2.
One piece is the way to go, but it is a little too suggestive. Would there be any way to incorporate a very short skirt with it? I think if you added a tiny skirt to 1 to cover the upper thighs it'll be perfect.
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A bit too suggestive for Marie, but that's the general idea. She'd funnel her aura into opponents during a camel clutch or Boston crab. It doesn't hurt, but it weakens and numbs and allows her to apply submissions with maximum effectiveness and power.
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If the micro skirt doesn't pan out I'm backing 1 all the way.
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Something like this? Feels kinda cheerleader-y now
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Here's these two versions with color, so you can better see what they look like.
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Posting demon babe ideas for Maria and her friends to fight.
>Amduscias
https://mythus.fandom.com/wiki/Amduscias
Described as a unicorn, but I think we should hold back on anthros and furies for demons when at all possible since there's a lot of anthro potential in the ars goetia. I see her being a woman with a unicorn like horn.
Amduscias has the power to make music appear out of nowhere and to control lightning. I see her summoning lightning to her horn and then directing it wherever she pleases. She uses her music power to overwhelm her opponent with cacophonous noise, so much noise it makes them feel sick and disoriented. When they're off balanced, she zaps them.
She fancies herself very prim and proper. She's a conductor, be it a conductor of symphonies or of combat. She hates the uncouth and improper. She would actually respect Maria for her attitude and unfailing politeness.
Though polite, she is vain and a sore loser. Every defeat is because the opponent cheated or got lucky or did something to stupid that her perfect plan couldn't account for.
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>Allocer
https://mythus.fandom.com/wiki/Allocer
A catgirl, specifically, a lion girl, with "flaming eyes," here interpreted as eyes that let her do three things:
1. Low-intensity heat ray. She can't set opponents on fire, but she can give them a very painful sunburn. She's even forced submissions with her heat beams.
2. Flashes of intense light that blind opponents and force them to look away from her face.
3. Her finisher. If she gets up close to an opponent and locks eyes with them, she can "burn their soul" and cause them to feel a despair so complete and overpowering they surrender. Shatters even the strongest wills.
She's an honorable huntress, though some would say her powers aren't so honorable. She refuses to fight her opponent if she isn't at her best and accepts defeat with dignity. Loves the thrill of combat. Doesn't consider her powers cheating at all and will fight anyone that claims she is cheating.
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Love that skirt, love that style, love it all. I hope a demon or two will catch your eye and that you'll draw Marie fighting with them.
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Maybe, this is mostly just getting a general outfit design done. I imagine her socks would end in stirrup socks so she still has her toes and heels for grip.
I also have a few of my own ideas for miscellaneous characters that I might get around to drawing later
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Last one for now.
>Aim
https://mythus.fandom.com/wiki/Aim
Aim is described as a lot of things, but I think we can create an interesting demon chick by combining elements. She has a long serpent tail, and while she's not full-blown cat girl, she has cat traits like cat eyes, sharp teeth, and pointed ears.
Aim is the "anti-Marie' and that includes her power. The Ars Goetia Aim has power over fire, and this Aim has "fire" that works like Marie's aura. She can't heal with her fire, but she can use it make someone think they're healed and make them immune to pain and reckless. If she's tricky about it, she can use this against opponents to make them underestimate the strength of her blows. They don't feel like they hurt, but they are leaving damage.
Instead of numbing and weakening opponents, Aim's fire hurts and it hurts a lot. it's pure, agonizing pain for the opponent until they submit.
Aim is like Hell's internal affairs. She hunts down rogue demons and doesn't like humans like Marie who think they can do her job for her.
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Please share your character ideas.
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>>152294027
Before I go on a tangent how do you feel for this oc to be as a antagonist or a main antagonist for your MC anon?
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>>152294045
Sure, its a bit rushed but here you go.
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>>152294131
NTA but that could work for a demon yeah.
>>152294187
Very cute, nice! I bet she says amen after she wins.
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>>152294187
A challenger approaches!
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Her name is Pyraxis, or for her wrestler name : HellStar Queen
A demonic wrathful flame that travels through worlds and stars to control every living thing and corrupt every entity she see fits. A demon birthed from hellfire itself. (It is heavily argued that she is not a traditional demon but a demon birthed in the stars.)
Normally she would never contend with mortals in sports like wrestling in UWF but it piqued her interest when she realizes the strong warriors that gather.
Her main goal is to insert dominance and obliterate the UWF and control every wrestler that exceeds her expectations and use them as warriors.
She has two forms, her demonic form is an eldtricrh being that scales even as the size of warships and can annihilate continents.
Her humanoid form shrinks her down and make her tall as 7"5 to 7"8 tall. In this form her powers are way more stable and can control her flames much easier. She has no normal technique for wrestling but use brute strength by crushing her opponent.
As she obliterates through the fodder she senses a holy warrior amongst them which turns out to be Maria. While she can never admit, pyraxis has a fear of holy warriors and is worried of any confrontation with any one with holy power.
With her conquest on pause she plans on destroying earths warriors that harnesses holy powers and plans a full on eradication of Maria. Even if she has to work with other demons or summon her own,
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Since Anon asked for Boo as a wrestler, here you go!
Yes, she grew buff
also i like the whole nun Wrestler, and i will try to add to it more later, just wait
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>>152291449
Nun fighter is fun, literally could make her a femm nacho libre, Fighting for the lord and too maybe make a place for her fellow orphans and non fighters. Or even more fun she's a nun who grew up in a church but loves fighting just like others maybe has to fight some degenerate who was going to take the church
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Sad people don't like marnie, plus kind of silly though to dislike her for being brown though anon though did try to get creative with the sea/naval theme but alas
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My new fave also if want a demon challenger I drew one a while back
was just me playing around with colors could be her first fight or rival, maybe if nun is a diligent girl of the cloth taken in by the church. Maybe this is a demon girl who's a brat maybe from a fighting family and wealth. Kind of play on diligence and humbleness vs ego and talent vibe. Idk just pitching but happy thread getting more boost
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Her back in her prime
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>>152295470
ehhh
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>Her back in her prime
inded
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>>152294187
The art for this series is already looking really good, PLEASE tell me there's an archive in the works
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>>152296915
We already got farm dog so a cat girl works
She was made in that /coc/ pile like a week back but good stuff boyo
>>152297782
Someone was thinking of making it last thread, think we just need to have a true plot/lore finalized to also make it coherent but happy anons are liking it seems nun girl has blown out marnie and tamer in terms of popularity
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>>152294432
Are stirrup socks just the theme of the series
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>>152298022
Unfortunatly No. This character was abandoned
For demons of her own, she can send them as individual monsters to go after someone or can help assist her in the middle of a fight.
She can work with other demons, but mostly try to force herself to be the leader amongst them. She is only compliant to others if theyre in equal strength or stronger than her.
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ok so here's the Siberian tigress girl
>Katyusha "Battlecat" Kotova
A strong tiger-girl from the cold lands of Russia, she is fierce and competitive, and she is famous for her strong, big splashes where she throws all of her body at her opponents.
However, she is a very wholesome and positive, or "Pawsitive" like she likes to say in a thick russian accent,her goal is to spread the word of "Muscular Pawstivity." (basically she is a gym bro that wants people to reach their full potential)
i like to imagine that she will develop a competitive friendship with our Nun mceven though she is an Eastern Orthodox kek
Feel free to add or change or do whatever you want with her.
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>>152295971
Oh nice to see you again anon.
Can we talk about adjusting tamers' idea?
I personally think we should actually try to make a character instead of making her a barely disguised fetish.
For starters, we can simply make her young girl who just harbors deep hatred for beastfolk. Instead of sex slaves she degrades them as pets and worthless animals and abuses them. Even as far as to say typical slurs and attacking non combatitve anthros.
For her main gimmick, she would use chains as her standard weapon. She occasionally uses her stolen beast abilities but only to belittle her opponents.
She would also go for humiliating pins or submissions when her opponents are weak to further degrade them.
She would also be a "Seal Clubber" type of fighter. Going after fighters that are inexperienced or fighting them while handicapped. You can make tamer fight farmdog by making her cheat against her or when she was not at her best. during her time as a wrestler.
So when tamer actually fights someone thats actually good she struggles horrifically, having to rely on her feral abilities until it consumes her and becomes the same thing she always hated.
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>>152295317
Do you two have your art collected anywhere like a deviantart? I'd love to see more of your stuff.
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>>152295317
It looks like Bo vs Maria should be the first official canon fight, so how should it go?
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>>152297853
>seems nun girl has blown out marnie and tamer in terms of popularity
Oh, I think every character has the potential to be someone's favorite. They just need a good story to back them up. I really donte wanna discredit anyone so far, since a lot of the character concepts presented so far have really creative.
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>>152291251
Even a derivative character like Marnie can be transformed into something unique. Maybe she really does just start off as a bit of a blank slate, but adopts some traits of the colorful characters she interacts with and eventually makes them all into her own thing?
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For the record, I love the Nun and would also like to cast my vote to make her the MC. But we've already got a bevy of characters that make this world feel more alive, so why stop now?
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>>152300974
Yea surprised it got backing.
>>152294131
Shame this didnt get any support. Guess people really love human characters morel
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>>152300413
Bo uses her powers to get the crowd on her side and Maria struggles because she isn't used to being booed and it weakens her confidence and aura. She gathers up her willpower and reminds herself that she doesn't fight for public approval but because she's fighting for the Order of the Silver Saint.
Maria starts to win, but Bo starts using smack talk and psychology. She intimidates Maria to lower her aura, taunts her into making a risky move, and then traps her in a submission hold.
Bo adds uses her psychological power one more time to sweet talk Maria and promise her that she'll let her off with just a little bit of humiliation if she loses. Instead of surrendering her cross, she'll just how to do some kneeling and groveling.
That would've beaten Maria, but she figured out Bo's powers and countered them at the last moment. She can use her aura as a forcefield, so she built up her aura around her ears to block out Bo's words. Bo isn't able to work her magic against her when Maria can't hear and she slips out of the hold and finishes Bo off with her camel clutch finisher.
Per the rules of the match, Bo has to shave her head (it was a hair vs cross match), but she sweet talks Maria into letting her off with just cutting the hair out of her eyes.
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>>152301114
>Guess people really love human characters morel
It's not that, because Bo has a big presence in these threads, it's just that she's a very weird looking lump lady and Maria and Bo are conventionally attractive.
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>>152295317
I love Bo, but if she's going to be beefy like this then we need some devils of the more sultry type like >>152294432
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>>152295971
You were probably going for shortstack but for some reason this is giving me loli vibes and I don't quite know why. She has breasts. She has curves. She has thighs. Yet something about this says loli to me. I don't understand it and I can't explain it.
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Might as well flesh out Maria's succubus frienemy.
Her name is Zepar. The Ars Goetia has lots and lots of demons that grant love but I picked Zepar because of his simplicity. He's described as a man dressed in red armor, so the girl version is a devil girl that wears a lot of red.
She's got red eyes, red hair, and red clothes. She's got horns, a tail, and pointed ears. She's a classic devil woman. Another way of doing it would be to give her red skin and dress her in white.
You know what? We should do that. Red skin and white. She wears a lot of white because it contrasts with Maria who wears a lot of black and it symbolizes the purity she wishes she had.
Zepar was a succubus. The economy of Hell is based on providing humans with worldly power and pleasure in exchange for service and worship. That's the good side of Hell. The evil side of Hell works under the table and barters for souls. Succubus are Hell's whores. They sell a few hours of pleasure for life force, which is then sold to other demons to make powerful artifacts out of.
Zepar is ashamed over being a succubus. The lifestyle burnt her out. She longs for a true romantic relationship she'll never have. She wishes she could have a family with a husband and children. She wants to be a mother.
She still feels intense desire, but sublimates her feelings through fighting. Yes, just like Morrigan from Darkstalkers. Her matches often have a little kinkiness to them, like the loser being hog tied in the ring, but she doesn't want to do anything sexual with anyone. She also hunts rogue demons, which is how she ended up meeting Maria.
She respects Maria, because Maris is who she would want to be if she could do her life over, but she's also jealous of her by the same token and longs to defeat her and prove she's better than her at something.
Extra drama comes from them being interested in the same guy.
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Zepar is a submission fighter like Maria. She'll never admit it, but she did learn a lot about how to move around another person's body during her life as a succubus.
While Maria can project life energy, Zepar can absorb it, and temporarily gain some of her opponent's skills and powers. She's at a disadvantage against Maria because Maria's life force paralyzes her if she doesn't absorb it exactly right, and even when she does absorb it exactly right, Maria's power causes her to seep her life force out as an aura, which feeds back into her, which then seeps out of her, which then feeds back into her. It traps her in a life force feedback loop that makes her feel sick.
Her fight record against Maria is not good. She lost her first fight against her when she tried to absorb Maria's life force and paralyzed herself. She figured out how to absorb Maria's life force without paralyzing herself during their second fight, but the feedback loop defeated her.
She's hoping that by fighting other demons and supernatural foes that she'll figure out how to safely absorb Maria's life force so that she'll finally be able to defeat her.
Against other fighters she does much better. Her power is very strong, and she has a lot of stamina and endurance, though strength wise she's a little weak.
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Hi
I mean I didn't make her, and tried to adjust her a bit to fit the initial vibe. I think she works as let's be honest a lil horny isn't bad plus makes her interesting as a antagonist feel she doesn't need to be a mc
I mean honestly she can and was always both, and we never offiically said sex slaves just pets/degrading. I do think she's a bigot though feel her attacking non combatants would be too much especially since feel she wouldn't be strongest fight would lead to more human fighters beginning to start trying to kick her ass. Feel she best as a slightly hidden but also open racist type that's uncomfortable when you notice. She seems cool and normal to humans then suddenly the slurs start flying
>Anon do you know about the anthro 33%?
I think this works if we go fighter not wrestlers, also still question of weapons as well what stops people from bringing swords or bats. But still def think this was suggested before
Yeah sounds good
Idk feel makes her lame and doesn't fit vibe the og anon pitched and others liked. I still feel what makes her dangerous is unlike most she's the real deal a ranker, so the mc and crews first real challenge. If she's just a weakling makes her defeat boring as you just literally have to catch her at your best that's more a small weekly villain mo. Think her being a strong girl who just uses it poorly makes her more menacing and dangerous.
I do like this though just feel more for a final fight vibe to show how far she's fallen in her pursuit also why feel her rival should be human or girl getting revenge
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>>152300974
I definitely believe so though want to see where it all goes as well think nun's variation going quite far in a different direction. I do like her a lot plus way better art than mine lol.
I think in end this is true why I tried to do the blue and agreed on adding the naval themes to her make her more unique also said weapon could be a fishing rod.
One flaw is feel we are just kind of doing a new idea every few days rather than fully building a lore. think our best bet would be to, keep a core lore concept and if no one can agree on a mc just do different champs for each 10 years which could then be built upon based on interest
Year 0. maybe nun girl
year 11. marnie
year 22. tamer
and etc. Just one suggestion don't have to do but since we can't seem to agree on a true mc best to have one lore so new comers can add and pitch ocs maybe have stipulations like. Mc can't be a champion when created or can't own or be part of UWF executives to not make them overpowered or overly convoluted
I do think proper worldbuilding is at least a must since we all want our waifu fighters and help us stay in some form of stream line
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I mean hey enjoy how you want boyo, but yeah not really my intention I always leaned younger with my gals as I enjoyed the young heroine fighters but was not meant to be loli just sketching and messing around
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My 2 cents are that it should focus on the core cast, but you can easily have focuses on the nun or matches that go with side characters. Have the ol' the main characters are watching shtick and the like.
To spitball and tie into the world more, this is not the main conflict here more of a stable of mischief making demons, have demons want to have other fighters (and kids) go heel, and reaching number 1 would allow them to influence everyone being a dirty no good heel and make it...heel on earth!
And with the Nun stopping it...with the help of the main core.
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Inspiration for Zepar's look, maybe. I think she her outfit should look slightly like a wedding dress since she longs for the married life. It has a skirt slightly longer than Marie's, bare legs, and an exposed midriff.
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>>152302324
Ok you sold me with heel on earth, also honestly why not just have nun be part of main cast every cast needs a healer/holy user
>Nun-healer/holy fighter
>Anthro feral-beastly more barbarian fighter
>Farmdog-more experienced kind of guide type fighter
>Marnie/mc-more rookie and weak but learning type
That's only really 4 anyway a good party is 4-5 and we plan to lose farmdog and she more a big sis/goal post type anyway
I also do think demons are fine, just think yeah maybe they are trying to become GOF and number 1 to make their own future where they are given more sway again. Maybe could imply in first GOF or before demons were the big dogs but they lost and were lowest ranked race in first GOF and lost a lot of control and sway. Many are chill in more combined world but most aren't so happy about it. Maybe demons created the concept of the heel in verse, turning people more toxic than good sports. Feel could also add someone like armored knight to her lore he's a chivalrous guy who is the people face, he has a pretty 50 50 win loss record but he never gives up and is the people champ of his area. So he's very anti heel and poor sportsmanship
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>>152302324
I think Maria's the MC for now. To tie her closer to the fight promotion concept, how about this, Bael is supposed to be the big bad of her story, and we know what Hell has a "good" side and a "bad" side. Bael could be like a gang lord. She runs a legitimate business that follows Hell's rules, but behind the scenes she's trading in souls. She wants to be top dog of the fight promotion to drive people to her business and sell their souls for power. Zepar and Maria want to not only bust her but defeat her in the ring.
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this one>>152295971
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I think as said more for now this thing goes back and forth for a sec people wanted to make a horny anthro enslaver the mc and make it all about her becoming a domme. I think good idea but think main anon right so many side and small stories and most did agree on a basic world building but either way I say don't lose the fun of it just well makes it confusing for people about how do we decide who's mc when we've changed it like 3 times already
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She reminds me of Piper Wheel. Short and bratty, could easily be mistaken for a child, but upon closer inspection, very clearly an adult, with traits like wide hips and thick thighs
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>>152303805
So my question is maria a rookie or a super competent fighter, as I feel one of main draws to the thread is for the girl to be growing and not invincible kind of main point/why people came from invincible fight girl is wanting cute young plucky heroine who struggles to top and non mary sueness. Like the show had alsoryona
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>>152303817
>Character has 2 wins over a character whose power is countered by her own and 1 close win over another
>"Is this a mary sue?"
Chill man, go masturbate to ryona until your head clears. It's okay that the MC of the fighting story doesn't suck ass at fighting.
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Maria is a shonen protag. She mostly wins. I think Kinnikuman lost only two or three times over his entire history. She should struggle and lose a few but ultimate end up as one of the strongest in the story.
Here are some fight records for comparison. Keep in mind that fictional fighters will be fighting a lot more than real ones.
>Ronda Rousey
12-2
>Valentina Shevchenko
26-4
>Natalia Silva
20-5
>Alexa Grasso
16-5
Maria and other top fighters should maintain a ratio of about 4-1. That's a minimum. It wouldn't be unusual for them to be 5-1 or even 6-1. As the MC, 6-1 is probably what Maria's ratio should be.
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>>152288159
I'm at work so I'll expand on Heart Breaker a bit, but have no image to post.
Heart Breaker is a popular villain character in the Japanese (or setting equivalent) circuit. She is in a constant push-pull with her fans, using their adoration of her to power up her wrestling costume, and using emotionally devastating attacks. Her rejection of her opponent's advances is so intense it can send them flying.
Heart Breaker's costume consists of three pieces of wonder-tech made by her manager. The mask enhances her senses so she can keep track of speedsters, and helps see through illusions. Her top lets her hit like trucks. Lastly her boots let her lift tons for big throws and high jumps. Outside of that she is still a formidable wrestle, just on a mortal scale.
When not in the ring or exercising, HB works as a house cleaner and lives in a small apartment while her idol obsessed manager finds matches.
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Quick thought. It was mentioned that Maria had a kitsune miko friend rival. Maybe she uses illusion magic to make it look like she has nine tails, but she's really much younger and only has a few tails? She hates that she has to wait hundreds of years to reach her full power and is looking for shortcuts, and she thinks demons might have the answer to her problems since they're notorious for selling magical shortcuts for all kinds of problems. She figures that if she becomes a big enough figure in the fighting world, and thus the demon world, she can cut a deal with a powerful demon and upgrade to nine tails without the wait.
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I have two girls who might be useful here, though I'll start with my go-to for wrestling.
Cermina, she's a fire drake who was raised in the former Soviet Union, hatched from an egg under nuclear fire, she was trained by Spetznas commandos in various forms of range and close quarters combat (Systema mainly). She served in Afghanistan, eventually betrayed by her KGB handler and left for dead when the base she was in was fire bombed in a retreat. She survived, made her way back to Russia, worked with SAS and eventually took down a coup.
When the Wall fell and the USSR collapsed, she went to BC (thanks to the SAS) and worked at a gym as an instructor. She loved wrestling and got deep into it, but found she couldn't get suitable foes, until her sister (an ice dragoness) told her about an underground ring MI6 was investigating and needed her help.
She fought beasts of myth and lore, aliens from other worlds, even transformed humans into monsters like her. She won them all, wanting to be the champ, even fighting her sister, but when she learned the truth, she burned it down with her sisters help. Afterwards, Cermina was unsatisfied, until she was picked up by another OC of mine to travel dimensions with them, and seek out strong opponents.
Her style now is switch, she can be heel or face and she often gets handsy with women fighters who have bigger breasts than her. She's a bit perverted but she prefers the thrill of body to body contact, so grapples, tests of strength, pins and holds. She is also a brick house and while she has no breath weapon, her claws can become super heated (she has special gloves to make sure she doesn't harm anyone with them in fights.)
If there is any other questions about her, you can ask.
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sorry i have a thing with buff gals kek
also i was making a joke about her getting serious and then getting muscular.
>>152299910
Hmm, nothing in particular, but I was thinking about making her have a special form when she gets to competitive, where she goes full beast mode. I call it "Hellcat," but I'm open to ideas
>I think she'd look better barefoot.
oh i will do something better
>Do you two have your art collected anywhere, like a deviantart?
sadly no,i started drawing recently and i do it for fun, but thanks for the thought
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Don't get me wrong, i was just trying Anon's idea
She can still have the same body as these >>152288635 >>152288601
Also i liked Maria's design, so I tried drawing her, and I have this idea of another friendly nun that goes with her to support her in matches (kinda like her sidekick and assistant)
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Maria opens every match she fights in by doing a group prayer with her inner circle. She explicitly lists "no fights on Sundays" in her contract, because that's the LORD's day.
>>152307135
You know, a lot of the original art in these threads is good, but I good say, yours is a highlight! There's a substantial amount of variety in terms of shapes and styles, which really helps your girls stand out.
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Please draw her hunched over her bedwhile praying, thanking the LORD for granting her the strength she needs to move forward in life.
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>>152307266
yeah this could work
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>but I can say, yours is a highlight!
thanks but you are giving so much credit that i don't deserve
But I'm happy that you enjoy my doodles
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>>152307135
Her sidekick could be a demon working to redeem herself. She has tiny angel wings starting to grow from her back and her horns are short and gradually disappearing. The other demons hate her for being a sellout, and angels always remember her sins when they see her, but Maria accepts her completely for who she is and so she's devoted to her.
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We got one of these, maybe anon can use one of them.
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>>152307135
I think I like her a little more with the skirt, but this is still very good.
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I think Bo should be the first demon Maria taps given how popular she is.
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>>152311697
Anon drew a demon referee.>>152288635 and >>152288601.
The demon ref was made into a fighter >>152290452 and >>152293507.
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>>152312076
Her fight with Maria was described >>152301170.
Bo is made buff and then less buff >>152295317 and >>152307135.
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>>152307135
Here's a fact about witches and demons that can be applied to Maria's matches. It's called the osculum infame. The infamous kiss.
It was said that witches had to kiss the devil's ass to show their allegiance. What does this mean for Maria? Demons demand kisses to show submission so matches with demons often involve a kiss at stake. They don't have to be "kiss my ass" matches though real life wrestling has had those. They can be "kiss my foot" matches or "kiss my hand" matches or even just "kiss me on the lips because I'm a succubus and the audience wants to see us make out" matches.
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>>152312346
In that any wrestler that submits to a demon is a witch, yes, and they probably use witch as a taunt instead of bitch.
"I'm going to make you my witch!"
"Say uncle, witch!"
"You're my witch!"
We could do more with the idea. Maria could have a match where the penalty is that she has to temporarily wear her opponent's sigil or there could be an entire arc where she has to dress up like a cute witch and proclaim herself her rival's witch until she wins 13 matches.
Maria penalties that she inflicts on opponents she beats would be getting them to kiss her cross and say "Hail Mary full of grace," but she probably would get a little thrill out of powerful and prideful demon kissing her foot.
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>>152312611
She looks frightening as is. Maybe she could a Cheshire cat girl with a clown theme and detach body parts as the fight goes on until she's a cloud of attacking limbs? Grapplers like Maria hate to fight her because she can just pop out of their holds.
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>>152312671
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buer_(demon)
She could be Buer. She acts real cutesy and calls herself Bu-Bu.
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>>152312097
I am once again asking if there's a consise and consistent lore bible for us to keep track of all the characters and their backstories
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Decided to draw an OC, has anyone come with a mean girl archetype yet?
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>>152312837
I'll try and put together something for the Marie linked characters. I think we have about five or six devil girl concepts now.
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She gradually turns more and more balloon like as the fight goes on. It starts out with her her skin getting shiny and translucent and ends up with her looking like that.
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>>152313035
We have several demon girls but none of them fit "mean rich bitch," which is surprising.
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>>152313035
How about a special move that tricks her opponent to do a selfie ad she does a nasty suplex.
https://youtu.be/SXbicVj3HEs?si=HlaG1cKnhwmNkMZr
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>>152313167
Marylou, huh? Sounds like Mammon. Maybe she should be a demon girl made out of precious metals? Hair of gold, skin of platinum, and dressed in a money green bikini. Her opponents literally get their money beaten out of them and the audience fights over it. When they lose or tap, it creates a geyser of cash. If Mammon herself loses, the arena floods in cash, but Mammon is one of the big princesses of Hell and hasn't ever lost.
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>Maria taps out to Mammon
>Everyone expects a geyser of money to come shooting out of her.
>It's only a little spurt.
>Maybe five thousand total.
>Because the Order of the Silver Saint is broke
Would be funny and a little heartbreaking.
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>>152313491
Her walk-out music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_yaFj0Lysc&pp
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>>152313259
>ends up with her looking like that.
even further
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>>152313709
First, there are two sides to Hell.
All demons are fallen angels, meaning they turned their backs on a spiritual existence for a physical one and exposed themselves to temptation and the possibility of sin. Hell is generally speaking, no worse than Earth, and demons no worse than people.
Hell is like a casinos, drug dealers, and loan sharks. They offer deals, and the deals are always in the demon's favor, but everything is consensual, and the angels that rule Hell impose certain rules and escape clauses.
That's the kind of Hell most demons in the setting belong to. They are cutthroat, and manipulative, and can ruin lives, but they have rules. The other side of Hell doesn't have rules. That's the side Bael runs and it's like organized crime. They trade in lives, and souls, and blood, and sometimes they don't make deals, they just take.
The legitimate side of Hell is ran by demons representing different contracts offered by Hell to mortals. Bael wants to defeat them even more than Maria does. Bael wants to corrupt the order of Hell while Maria fights for human pride and dignity and to show people there's more to life than the comforts of the flesh. Maria is ideologically opposed to the princesses of Hell, but she respects them. Bael wants to kill them.
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Mammon "Minnie" offers money. Asmodeus "Ashley" offers sex and is the ultimate succubus queen. Beelzebub "Billie" offers deals based in envy. She can make a person match or exceed anyone that they're envious of. Abaddon "Abbie" offers fantasy and diversion. She's in charge of Hell's entertainment. Hell makes movies and books and gatcha games so good you'll never want to go outside.
Abbie might be the one ultimately in charge of Hell's combat sports.
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I think four un-heavenly queens work fine. Sins can be combined. Minnie is greed, Ashley is lust, Billie is envy and pride, and Abbie is sloth an gluttony.
The only thing I'm not sure on is whether or not there should be a supreme queen of Hell or if the four share power equally. Any thoughts, thread?
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>>152307135
>sadly no,i started drawing recently and i do it for fun, but thanks for the thought
Your art looks really good for someone that just started. Would you be open to accepting commissions? I'd like to commission you for Maria an demon girl art.
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What is this world setting? Is it a normal wrestling setting, is this a more fantastical idea like kinnikuman?
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Alright, back with those random character ideas I had. now with accompanying art.
First is another demon girl, she's a low ranking ex-succubus turned brawler. When it came time for layoffs at her succubus job, she was the first to be fired because she just wasn't "voluptuous" enough to keep on the payroll.
Completely humiliated and jobless, she turned to seedy underground fighting to pay for her meals. She now wields two huge demon skull gauntlets. The gauntlets are sentient, and are empowered by all her resentment and anger.
She's by all means an underdog, but she plays up more of a heel personality. She loves teasing and insulting her opponents to throw them off, but a lot of it is just her projection from her own insecurities. Fights in a punchy, violent manner that focuses on overpowering with force over technique.
For that one guy who it concerns, no she's not a loli. She's just shrimpy. By demon standards she's an adult.
Second is an alien, because we haven't explored them as much. She's from a psychic race who can project psionic energy into their martial arts. She can't quite read minds, but she can detect malicious intent and use it to predict opponent's next move.
She has travelled from far to refine her skills by battling different opponents from earth. She has a pretty amicable personality, very polite and curious about all around her. She tends to take everything said to her at face value, although it's hard to trick her this way due to her empathic abilities to detect maliciousness. She also highly values honor, and never stoops to dirty tactics.
She fights using a unique martial arts that utilises her species' flexibility and unique psychic abilities to imbue her strikes with powerful psionic energy blasts.
Whether these characters are friends of Maria, or random opponents, I dunno. We'll see how people like them.
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Just say she's at least 18 with an A cup holy shit it's not hard to not be creepy. Why you got to say stuff like "she's an adult by demon standards" like she's an immortal 12 year old or something.
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>She's not a loli she's just shrimpy
Well of course she doesn't look like a little kid at all she's got curse an while it's a small chest she does have a chest. You don't need to explain anything, everyone can see that she's an adult character and
>By demon standard she's an adult
Goddamn it why'd you have to go and say that? You make it sound like she's a gorillion year old ten year old and now I'm questioning how I visually estimate the ages of characters. Thanks anon, great. All you had to do was not fucking say anything and you couldn't do that.
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I don't think anon intended for her to be anything but a woman with small tits, he just worded his explanation badly.
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>>152315288
Jeez I didn't expect people to be hung up on the wording of that. Someone earlier said they didn't want any lolis, so I was just clarifying that she's not one. "adult by demon standards" means exactly that. She's past adolescence, she's living independent and has(had) a job. No 1000 year old 12 year old or anything like that, if you choose to read it that way that's your prerogative. The fact that sentence could be interpreted that way never crossed my mind considering in my head it means the exact opposite of how you read it.
>>152315268
Probably not, I mean she wants to be considered sexy but if she got a boob job that'd be like admitting defeat in her mind.
>>152315311
Sort of a holdover from her original gimmick before she got the gauntlets, where she was basically a designated loser people paid money to see beaten up.
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>>152313786
Well, she’s a social media influencer turned wrestler that tries to be fabulous about everything for the likes, even when she’s suplexing bitches in the ring. She would try to create drama, post updates mid fights and take good photos of her owning her opponent.
She astarted as an OC I’ve had kicking around in my head for a while, part of a different female wrestling federation idea, not quite like what’s been tossed around in this thread. Not sure if anyone’s interested in hearing about it though.
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>>152315324
I love the punch demon. Her being a striker contrasts with Maria being a grappler. The succubus queen Asmodeus "Ashley" makes a good end boss for her.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimaris
I would make her Kimaris "Kim." Kimaris was described as a warrior and was named after the Cimmerians, a warrior race.
The chains I'm not so sure about. Why would she keep wearing them? Unless she's into chains, and she might be since she's a succubus.
The gloves I think are a little too big. I get the idea behind them and I like it, but I think they should start out a little smaller and then grow to that size once she gets angry enough. I see her being an endurance fighter. The more her opponent pisses her off and the longer the fight drags on, the stronger she becomes. If she's not finished quickly, she'll get so pissed she'll punch her opponent right out of the arena.
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>>152315398
I don't hate them, I just don't dig them. But here's an idea, how about we make the skulls on her gauntlets her symbol and put one at the end of the chain around her neck? She turns her neck chain into a necklace.
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I also want to say I dig the alien girl, it's just it's harder to talk about her given how demon focused things are right now. Would he people be aware of demons? That could be a hook to build off of. Did her people have contact with demons millennia ago an then seal them from their planet, or are they learning about angels and demons for the first time from Earth? Hell, that might be why aliens don't visit Earth. They see all the demons trying to get at human souls and noped the fuck out of there.
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How does Kim vs Maria play out?
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>The chains I'm not so sure about. Why would she keep wearing them?
Joke answer is she literally just lost the keys and can't take them off. Slightly more serious answer is it simply became apart of her branding as she got used to fighting with them on, and they act as training weights of sorts. They make her heavier which is good because she's naturally very light.
>The gloves I think are a little too big. I get the idea behind them and I like it, but I think they should start out a little smaller and then grow to that size once she gets angry enough.
Nothing saying the gloves can't change in size, growing smaller or larger depending on how charged up they are. Although it should be noted she doesn't wear them 24/7, and obviously has normal sized hands underneath.
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Pure strikers usually go down hard against good grapplers so Kim winds up kissing the cross. Maria can tell she feels humiliated over losing to a human and talks with her after the match and offers to train with her so she'll develop ways to counter grapplers.
The counter grappler strategy Kim develops with Maria's help is to turn the fire of her gauntlets inward so that she burns anyone trying to touch her. This causes her some damage, but Kim is a tough demon who can tough it out. But that does raise a question.
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Did Kim have succubus draining powers, and does she still have them or did she loose them when she was fired?
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How do the gloves respond to humiliation? Like if her opponent has her pinned and smothering her with D cups and the audience starts laughing at her, does her humiliation make the gloves grow or shrink?
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Ok, here you go. This is Joan, Maria's sidekick and assistant, providing her with emotional and training support.
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>>152311209
sure why not
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i will see what i can do
>>152313035
oh that's nice gal
She looks bratty
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>>152316077
Joan is cool! Does she have the same powers and fighting style as Maria?
>Sure why not
I'm hoping to see her fight with Bo or Kim.
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Ex succubus, technically. She was fired.
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Obviously, you're gunna want some seven deadly sins representation if you're talkin' about demons, but how's about we show some love to the other side of the coin that no one ever seems to talk about? I'm thinkin' either Maria herself exhibits traits representing all of the seven heavenly virtues, or she has friends or wrestling partners that exhibit those traits. Which brings up another question, which virtue would Maria exhibit more than any other?
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>>152316296
She's a nun, so her big virtue has to be temperance. Temperance vs indulgence sums up her conflict with Hell more or less. Hell is about turning eyes from God with sex, power, money, and entertainment. Maria wants to turn eyes to God and get people to believe in something besides self gratification even if she has to whip ass to do it.
The other three cardinal virtues were justice, prudence (sort of like wisdom), and courage.
Here's a crazy idea I'd like to float for the thread. What if Kim is courage?
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Cute alien babe could be prudence. As for how aliens fit with demons, I guess demons appear to them as creatures from their own mythology? She could call demons "the distractors" because they distract her people from mental development. In ancient times, there could've been a group of psychic warrior monks that fought against Hell and they were her ancestors or something.
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Nah, but I can see her having a witch period.
>Is worried that she can't measure up to Maria
>Challenges a demon to a fight where the stakes are she'll become the demon's witch, figuring that if she wins it means she's not a burden to Maria and if she loses then she'll get a power boost to keep her from being a burden.
>She loses
>She gets a cute witch outfit to wrestle in
>She feels a little ashamed, but she has new powers
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She's the punch succubus.
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Probably make her punches stronger, but if she's distracted she'll be less accurate
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Alien girl doesn't have a name yet, open to suggestions. I wasn't sure if we were going with a naming theme for them like with the demons.
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Only if you're paying
Also some more backstory for how she got the gauntlets, when she first started out in the underground fighting rings she was working under the assumption that she was sure to win because "her speed was superior", however in reality most people stronger than her were also faster than her. She met humiliating defeat after defeat, but after she attracted a fanbase of perverts who enjoy seeing a frail little succubus get dominated by more powerful opponents, the organisers started paying her a meager sum to lose on purpose to draw in that crowd.
Tired of having to lose over and over again, she gained her recent popularity to get a meeting with a skeevy old rich guy who sponsored fighters in the past. She tried succubus charm on him but it didn't work very well, so instead she tricked him into getting really drunk and signing a contract that gave her full ownership of the cursed skull gauntlets.
They had belonged to a previous champion fighter of his, but currently were just sitting on display. The gauntlets being sentient took well to their new owner, despite being a lot smaller than their previous owner she has a lot of fighting spirit and anger which they liked. Also it beats gathering dust on some asshole's shelf.
The gauntlets have distinct personalities and names as well, unless anyone has ideas I'll get around to naming them later.
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She does, but we can say that technically she's not allowed to use them legally without her license. Can't have ex succubi going around draining a bunch of unrecorded lifeforce. She's kind of a shitty succubus in general though, she doesn't even have the shapeshifting ability of higher ranking succubus which is why she's stuck with her skinny body.
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>What's her going rate?
It depends on if she lost or won her last fight
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Yea, changed a lot. This thread was meant for a story but it looks like it mightve ditched sadly.
Now its just a fun place to dump ideas now. Maybe i can actually discuss my thrown away concepts i had last thread.
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>This thread was meant for a story but it looks like it mightve ditched sadly.
By all means, there can still be an overarching story. There's plenty of characters who can contribute to the fleshing-out of this world and the wrestlemania that encapsulates it.
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Heres the concept
Name: Hornette
Wrestle alter ego: Unbreakable Steel Horn
A shy horned beetle woman that has hidden potential within herself and overcomes her mental weakness to become stronger.
Ring names:
The Iron empress of devestating steel
The wall not so standing tall
The indomitable wall of stainless metal
The shining horn that can break even the earth itself
Her abilities.
Her main abilities is the use of her horn, being able to grab enemies like a unblockable command grabs. With her horns she can throw large boulders and can use them like blades as well. Despite her size she has great strength. In case all else fails she can harden her skin and use extend her metal insect body to use offensively or defensively.
Her main weakness that she has to super close to do any of her moves and cannot do anything in long range and can struggle during middle range.
Later down the line she would develop different transformations as a sign of her strength growing and her mental growth. Similar to planet saga frieza using all of his forms.
The 1st one being a slighty mature and taller version of herself. Giving her more range and flexibility. However the power of the Horn becomes weaker and runs risk of being broken even more.
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The 2nd one being a muscle woman wider and bigger. She gains immense confidence and gains much more strength but at the cost of rationality and overconfidence and predictable playstyle.
Horn becomes twice as strong. Horn becomes shorter but its durability becomes even harder to break.
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The 3rd form would be a perfected form that gains all her forms from base to 3rd form abilities and make her a jack of all trades. However this form is limited.
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Finishing moves:
Insect Breaker
Grabs her victim with her horns and repeatedly slams them on the floor 10 to 15 times. Throws tem in the air, catches them puts them in a torture racks and breaks them aparts.
Armored assault
Steels and hardens her body and charges and tackles the enemy. Begins to wail on the relentlessly and uses the final hit with her horn and ends with a devestating bearhug and a back breaker.
Beetles rampage
Grabs the enemy with hwr horns and drags them around the stage, and slam them on floor getting stuck. Grabs a chunk of rock and jumps up in the air and crushes the victim and exploding the rock.
Evolution execution
Cycles between her forms and barrages the enemy with all of her unique abilities from each respective form. Final form ends with the hornette crushing the victims back in the air and ending with muscle buster.
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Another concept
Real name: Leona O Hare
Wrestle alter ego: LionHeart or LittleLeo
Ring names:
The petite beast of steel and golden glory.
The body of a hare and the heart of a lion
The lion hearted warrior of bravery and courage
The golden mane of justice
The Queen of beasts and Savagery
She would mostly be inspired around the real life rabbit called he lionhead
Her abilities.
Her main abilities would center around the use of her ears,fur and legs.
She can use her attacks to lead to powerful kicks and and strong combinations.
Can use her fur to create eletrical abilties and fire energy blast and other things. However she has to be moving constantly or rubbing her fur to do.
She has her long ears to do power attacks and grapple, however can be used against her if she overelies on them and can be grabbed and easily failed around
Her main playstyle would just be a shoto from sf4 but for a wrestler.
She has an ability to transform like a gear 2nd form and heighten her speed and strength and increasing her blood flow alongside her heartbeat. rate. However just like normal rabbits the transformation comes with the cost. She slowly starts to lose her fur, and strength. If in the transformation for far too long she runs the risk of passing out of a heart attack if used for too long.
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Way later in the series she has the ability to transform into a actual lioness and increase her size and develop new abilities like claws on her hands and ears. Primordial strength and developing and stronger roar.
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Finishing moves:
Hunt of the beast
A quick charge that starts with small barrages, then she begins to grab her victim and starts slamming them on the floor over and over and dragging them across the ring, flings them in the air and do a muscle buster. Her EX version then slams them in the ground and she ends it with a air shattering roar.
Golden storm
Transforms into her heightened state and precedes to do lighting fast barrages. Similar to rock lee in hidden lotus. She then precedes to send her opponent in the air and continue the barrages and start ragdolling them. After that she then does 5 fast bone breaking submissions and then delivers a muscle driver in golden aura giving off an explosion.
Goddesses thunderstorm
Can rub her fur and fire off a electric energy blast that sends her victims flying. Jumps into it, energizing her and delivers a powerful lariat against the tight ropes giving off an explosion. An EX version would make her wrap the victims with her long ears and her own arm and bear hug them and deliver a powerful pile driver.
Roar of reign and Devastation
Jumps in the air to deliever an earth shaking roar and dive bombs her victim with a vicious tackle or bodyslam that destroys the ring.
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Have we established the gender dynamics of this world? Sounds to me like there's a hint of female supremacy in the air at least in the world of sports.
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Why not?
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If Joan doesn't go witch, I think we need a friendly witch rival for Marian.
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Might as well make a story for these concepts while im at it.
Hornette used to be a human woman until she was kidnapped and experimented on to be used as a biological weapon and a testing ground to be formidable warrior. Many of other victims like herself were kidnapped and used to make the strongest creatures used for destruction.
Unforturnaly due to her small body and personality and lackluster stature, she was considered a failure and was marked for termination.
However, due to the popularity and openings of over a millions of candindates of the UWF she was selected as a candindate for the the wrestling scene in order to prove her worth as a worthy experiment. If she performs well she stays alive. If she fails too much she will be deemed worthless and marked for annihilation. Her life is now in her hands and decided best on her performance.
Now she possesses beetle-like abilities and harness the ability to steel herself and handle even the most fatal attacks. Despite her insect like appereance she is incredibly nice and sweet and strives to be kind despite any circumstances. Even if she is abused or mistreated
Due to her shy and timid nature she struggles to control her powers and has a tendency to be sporadic, because of the body she was given.
During her moments when she is in control and calm her body will enhance on its own and at most times transform to one of her forms.
Despite attending in the UWF she is also put against othe experimented creatures to further test her capabilties.
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We've got Maria, Joan, Bo, Kim, and for a placeholder name for the alien babe lets go with Whiryyn'de (Wendy). How do they compare with each other? What's the fighter hierarchy looking like?
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Devil wrestler inspiration.
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It's good we have Joan. I think we need to make her slightly more district from Maria and maybe that idea about making her a witch can be of help there but she's the Joey/Vegeta of the story. She can get her ass kicked more often than Maria.
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>>152326169
This isn't a bad look for another character.
>>152328188
The top fighter succubi are based on waifu archetypes. There's a spunky tomby, a cool goth, and a dommy mommy.
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i will ask you to be patient since i had some shit to deal with first
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>>152329510
It varies.
When it comes to fighting heavyweights like melira>>152290477
she would struggle initially at first. Having to avoid getting hit and has to move consistently. If she can beat
When it comes to fighting mid weights or lights weights like Maria or any of the demon characters then its a strong 50/50 depending on the powers of her opponent.
Basically
If the opponenet doesnt have powers that can nullify or compete with Lionhearts speed or abilites , then they will most likely lose.
If the opponent can tank most of leonas attacks or wear her out of her transformation then they will win.
If leona is fighting against a heavyweight the odds are against her and will most likely lose depending on the circumstances.
Considering Leona is a "Shoto" like character she will struggle against fighters that excel at a specific class more than her.
So depending on how strong maria and the other demons then its a strong 50/50 on how the match goes since they're roughly the same build and size
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Ok here's the finished version
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>Everything alright with you?
just had to do fix something and it took less time than i thought
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nah don't worry about it, Anon
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i tried to make them long
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thanks, and yeah this seems right
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I do, but nothing that is the right size to post that gives her justice.
Here is the next closest one
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Naw. Maria's music can only be this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btObUyASSI8
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Here's another humiliation Maria can do to her opponents.
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Thanks for showing love to my doodles
Here's this, still WIP though
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Nice! Is she going to put her foot on her like Michael? >>152340437
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Looks good! Could you have her say "amen?"
>>152342512
Maria Michael posing on her opponents would be hot...
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>>152342327
Looks good. Thanks for drawing all these.
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A harpy woman would be cool. I think it would be cool to have Maria, or maybe Joan, go up against an oni. My idea for an oni is that she's smaller than normal oni, but still bigger than Kim and Maria, and studies martial arts, particularly Judo, to make up for being smaller than her race. She's a spunky, loud, friendly tomboy, but her ego gets bruised easily because she was always bullied for being small and weak. She wants to beat Maria or someone like Maria so that no one will ever bully her again.
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>Looks good! Could you have her say "amen?"
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>Nice! Is she going to put her foot on her like Michael?
you are lucky that i liked this idea
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It's a great pic. I see Bo lost some hair. So I guess that hair vs cross thing was canon? If so what happened to Maria's necklace?
Also is it just me or has her headband been slowing morphing into a hat?
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thanks
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perhapes
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Yeah, it was a quick doodle, so i forgot about the cross, but i thought that her headband was a weird ha,t so this is on me
Here you go
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>>152343682
Very hot and very good. Thank you for drawing it.
>>152343780
I'd be fine with that being Maria's thing. If we ever want to vary it up, her opponents could kiss her cross as a humiliation or particularly mean ones might have to say a prayer and repent their sins.
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>>152343682
Hey, I'm not sure if you saw my earlier post, but I want to say that I love how you've drawn Maria and the other characters. These threads can't last forever, so I was wondering if you could give an email that so that I can contact you when these threads die? I think I would like to commission you to draw Maria vs demons art.
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Outside of her violent personality and being a bit rough around the edges, I don't think she's super tomboyish. Like she isn't the type to start calling you "bro" and wanting to play sports and stuff. She's pretty in touch with her feminine side even if it isn't a very impressive feminine side.
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>>152350025
NTA but I'd like a tomboy succubus.
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What kind of fighting gimmick would she have?
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She's turned succubus life sucking into a full-fledged martial art. She can disrupt life force with certain strikes and of course drain life force with bodily contact making her submission hold powerful. She's a good mix of striker and grappler. Kim leans to strikes, Maria leans to grapples, but the tomboy succubus is right in the middle. She opens up with life force disrupting strikes and gets a tap out with a submission hold.
She wants to fight back against the stereotype that all succubus are whores. Some use their powers as doctors. Some use their powers as fighters. She's actually a virgin because she believes sex ultimately blunts life force powers while martial arts and exercise develop them.
She respects Maria and sees Maria's aura powers as a cool challenge to overcome for her own powers. If she can make Maria her witch, it'll be proof that she's made it as a fighter.
She naively believes that God is the ultimate fighter since Jacob wrestled with God and hopes that if she can defeat Maria God will show up and fight her.
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I've got some ideas.
"Ashely" Asmodeus is the succubus queen. So she's the strongest succubus. What if the tomboy succubus is 100 percent right in theory? People think she's wrong because they look at the succubus queen who everyone knows has lots and lots of sex and she's the strongest among them, but what if Ashley is LYING?
The queen of the succubus is a virgin, but she tells everyone that sex is the key to power so that no one will ever get as strong as she is. Sex makes a succubus FEEL more powerful, and it bloats them with life force, but doing it as long as as often as succubus are expected to do wears their power down.
Ashley didn't expect an odd ball like the tomboy succubus to show up, so she's trying to put her against strong fighters like Maria in the hopes of breaking her spirit and crushing her before she can get popular.
Second idea. Kim is banned from using her succubus powers, but she still has them. That means she could create a powerful witch by transferring all of her succubus powers to her. It's a tricky rules lawyer move she could pull to get a strong minion on her side.
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We could always add other stuff to the setting to make it larger later, but it's good to start with a narrow focus and I think the Maria stuff offers that focus.
Should there be an angelic league opposite the demonic league? So far it seems like there's just a league for demons and Maria and Joan are competing in it to draw people away from the vices demons offer?
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>>152352184
Yes, exactly. For more human characters we can bring in miko and witches. An interesting question would be should we bring in angels? I think angels should be treated as purely spiritual beings, but maybe one's possessed a woman and uses them to fight?
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>Kim(flitrious):"you seem like a delicious opponent, hehe."
>Joan(deadpan): "I will make you humble before good after I break your back."
>Kim:"Huh?!"
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That might be a good way to expand the world. There are two leagues, both representing one side of Heaven and Hell. They build their strength to build up the strength of their following. It all culminates in Angel vs. Demon wrestling, winner takes the glory, the street cred, and the influence.
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I like this personality for Joan. She's a little colder and meaner than Maria. Maria thinks of demons as opponents to be respected or bullies to be taught a lesson. Joan sees them as enemies to be brought to the light on their knees.
By the way, what do you think about the tomboy succubus idea?
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I don't see Heaven having a league, or at least not a league like Hell. They train fighters through organizations like the Order of the Silver Saint, but they're not really into the spectacle of combat sports.
Hell is completely about combat sports. It's one of the hottest shows on Earth. People see Earth's greatest female warriors get their asses kicked by demons and line up to sign contracts with demons for power and favors.
Hell is also ran by Heaven, sort of. The angels set strict limits on what demons can and can't do. and these limits are enforced by the Four Queens. But beyond that, they don't really manage Hell.
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>>152353592
Same reason gambling, cigarettes, sex work, and loan sharks are bad. They're vice industries, but just like real life governments, the angels don't outright ban these practices, because free will is important, but they do regulate them.
Demons can't make contracts with children. Demons can't make contracts for souls. Demons can't lie. Demons that break these rules, like Bael, are considered criminals by the Four Queens and are hunted down.
Maria and Joan entered the Hell League to show people the power of clean living and virtue, which now that I think of it, is like what the tomboy succubus wants.
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I got an idea. When a demon girl is beaten by a Nun, have a glowing seal of solomon show up somewhere on their body to show that they're fully in the power of the one that defeated them. It only shows up when humans defeat demons.
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>>152353349
i mean can she with a girl like Joan?
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>Maria thinks of demons as opponents to be respected or bullies to be taught a lesson. Joan sees them as enemies to be brought to the light on their knees.
my headcanon is both of them represent two types of religious people: the wholesome religious types....and the fanatics/zealots. And Joan is the type who hears voices kek
>By the way, what do you think about the tomboy succubus idea?
well i see that it can work
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i like this!
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>>152354141
As long as the victorious woman wants to it. Maria will dismiss the seal if the defeated demon asks her (and isn't a complete bitch, otherwise Maria might decide they need to learn some humility). Joan doesn't want to remove a seal at all, but if she's asked to, Maria will make her remove it.
>>152353859
> my headcanon is both of them represent two types of religious people: the wholesome religious types....and the fanatics/zealots. And Joan is the type who hears voices kek
I like this. Are Joan's voices legit or are they all in her head? Or is she secretly hearing demons larping as angels?
>Well i see that it can work
I'd love to see you illustrate the character.
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>>152355081
Good question. There's a few solutions.
1. She is using her powers illegally, but succubus want to see if she's right about her theory so they don't bust her. The queen is hoping that a few crushing defeats in the arena will convince people to arrest her.
2.She is using her powers illegally, but no one wants to arrest a powerful fighter. If she get humiliated in the area, she will be arrested.
3. The law is that you have to POTENTIALLY useful with you succubus power. The tomboy has the potential to be a great succubus, because she's stacked and tall and sexy and everything Kim isn't. Kim was fired for lack of potential.
4. The law is that you have to USEFUL with your succubus power. Many succubus use their powers as doctors and healers, and the tomboy herself is a healer from a family of healers.
5. Ties in with 4 a little. If she can prove she's powerful as a virgin succubus, she demonstrates a usefulness, and can't have her powers forbidden. Her usefulness is tied to her record. If she loses too much, she loses her power unless he gets with the program and take some dick.
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>>152355154
Story idea here.
The fight is tomboy vs Maria, and Maria learns that if the tomboy loses, she has to either give up her powers or have premarital sex. For the sake of her friend's virginity, she throws the match.
The tomboy learns that Maria threw the match, and in private kneels to her and swears her life to her. But Joan isn't the forgiving type, and she vows to break the tomboy in the ring.
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>>152353649
That's actually a pretty clever and unique way to depict combat between Heaven and Hell. The demons are incredibly cocky and boastful, even if they have the strength to show for it, pride always comes before the fall. Meanwhile, the angels work at it more subtly and humbly. This is gunna sound silly, but I'm reminded of SpongeBob vs. Neptune, where an intimidating figure with all style and no substance loses to a meek, yet well-meaning oaf who's incredibly earnest.
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>>152353859
damn demons can't get a win
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>The Amazon talent Agency is a company that provides many wrestling leagues with memorable characters, but behind the showmanship there is a dark secret.
>Their wrestlers are actually people drowning in debt that are forced to wrestle to pay it off. Doesn’t matter if you don’t look the part, using their shady DNA scrambling tech they can turn anyone into a customized powerhouse overnight.
>Need a badguy, a babyface a jobber or just cheesecake? the company can deliver them.
>Alignments are not what they seem, you might see Mother Russia suplexing American Beauty in the ring, but off-stage they’re just two regular women working to clear their loans.
>The real split is between the ones desperate to pay their debt and return to normal lives, versus those who have become addicted to the ring and find themselves much better after the company changed them.
>Mother Russia: A huge wall of muscles that can suplex anyone in the ring, She wasn't always the blonde powerhouse you see today, she used to be the owner of creole restaurant until a fast food chain drove her out of business leaving her with hundred of thousand of dollars in debt she needed to pay fast.
>Talibanna, A swift and acrobatic wrestler, and enemy of the west, she used to the average all american girl, top grades and captain of the cheerleding team, she join the agency to pay her student loans, She is suppose to play the part of a villain but she is too much of a sweetheart which often causes problems between her and the agency.
Omega Bitch: A fabulous and showy wrestler who causes as much drama in the ring as she does out of it, loves humiliating her opponents and taking selfies next to her defeated enemies. Unlike others she loves her role as the top bitch and all her new fans. She will do anything to keep her contract including undermining other wrestlers.
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>>152361768
Omega bitch for sure does that, the flashier the better for her, Mother Russia is more about crushing her opponent throwing or smashing her opponents. Talibaana is more of aerial preferring kicks and flashy acrobatic moves.
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>>152361816
Its an idea I had from a while, but I might as well share it and see if they can fit with the rest of the ideas here. They are cliches by design the agency chooses their gimmicks and forces them to play character. I'm planning on doing more.
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>>152361880
Ah nice go for it, I think maybe like with nun girl kind of do your own thing rather than try to 100% fit since everyone seems to be doing that
Though would love to learn more, also this is /co/ so you can really lean into the stereotypes and play if you wanted to no one would care probably make em more memorable
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>>152353859
>Joan(deadpan): "I will make you humble before god after I break your back."
>Kim:"Huh?!"
kek it's basically this skit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z-oJTZ1b5Q
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>>152353859
>I like this!
I'm glad you like it. When demons win, the opposite happens, and the losing human is marked with a glowing sigil. If they're an Ars Goetia demon, it's their sigil, but an inverted seal can work as a generic seal for demons without their own.
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>>152353859
About the tomboy succubus, I think she should be named Paimon.
https://www.occult.live/index.php/Paimon
>He is described him as having a beautiful face but still refer to him using masculine pronouns.
That sounds tomboy coded to me. She probably goes by "Pai."
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>>152366424
Pretty much. Looks like that whole story me and that anon wanted make was really abandoned.
Shame. Guess maybe nxt thread i can just dump all of the concepts that got dumped and see what gets people interested. Or bring up my own wrestle ocs after this thread is done.
But its honestly nice to have a place a about wrestling though.
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Greetings anons
i apologize for not being able to fufill you request and answer your questions since i will take some time to deal with some life duties and i want you to have this praying Joan doodle that i did few hours ago cause "Y'all need jesus" kek
I also want to clarify that I don't decide what is canon or the outcomes of the matches. I'm just someone who doodles what I think looks cool. So, please don't consider my doodles of the matches as the canon events; what actually happens is up to the anons. Thanks.
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>>152366622
Hope everything works out for you. That's a great drawing of Joan. I love how buff she is. Maybe she tries and compensate for not being as spiritually powerful as Maria by being as physically strong as she can?
>I don't decide what is canon or the outcomes of the matches
You've got as much say on the canon as anyone here AND you draw. I'm fine with you being the guy who decides who wins and who loses.
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>>152366503
You can share all your ideas now. Do you got any that could fit in Heel on Earth?
>>152366625
Best pic to use until we get an OP pic for Heel on Earth.
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>>152366757
Honestly, I think we should merge with /coc/.
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>>152366790
I'm more than happy for "if you draw it, it's cannon."
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>>152364867
>mothering male wrestlers
REALLY fixed that for you
>>152354433
I've got an idea. Before the match, both fighters have to put in buttplugs. Afterwards, the loser gets into downward dog, and the winner manually removes their bottom and their buttplug right there in the middle of the ring.
>>152366503
>Looks like that whole story me and that anon wanted make was really abandoned
No need to throw in the towel just yet. Why not try to reincorporate your ideas into the story? Maybe your OCs could have their own little arcs that would impact the world in some way.
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>>152367544
>I've got an idea. Before the match, both fighters have to put in buttplugs. Afterwards, the loser gets into downward dog, and the winner manually removes their bottom and their buttplug right there in the middle of the ring.
Well that's uh...that's a bit much, don't you think? I thought the tone here was like Rumble Roses, not Ultimate Surrender.
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>>152366622
Take your time. Your art is always worth it.
>>152367630
Hey, you said humiliation, so I gave you humiliation.
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Fuck it, i'm ballin'
>Countess Elizabeth Mirielle Arkhon III "EMA"
>Age: She ain't telling, but she is in the triple digits.
>Lord knows how an nosferatu has an interest in wrestling, let alone wanting to be one.
>She wants to be number 1 because she deems it as her birthright.
>Her highborn nature is apparent, she demands nothing but perfection — and that includes her spot on the card. Always insisting on coming on late in the show, at night. Demands no garlic in the area, no wooden tables, crosses, etc. She's very high maintenance, but ultimately a huge draw.
>She tends to have the rules bend in her favor. Mostly because no one wants to deal with her...objections.
>She's extremely popular, though most think her huge fanbase is her thralls. She doesn't particularly hide that.
>She's deceptively strong, result her having a powerhouse style. Having an average build for the sport, she is able to match super heavyweights in power.
>After one too many, she not allowed to mind control opponents (or refs) for wins. Other vampire powers, she uh...sneaks in.
>When she tires out, she need blood to reinvigorate herself. However, due to the no biting rule, she can't do it mid match. She really hates that rule.
>1.Impaler DDT (Lifting DDT).
>2.Scholomanrana (Hurricanrana).
>Finisher. I Am EMA (Chokeslam). A chokeslam that increases in power as the match goes/how mad she is. Reaching to the point of her leaping high into the air, touching the area roof, if any, and driving them down into the mat.
Theme(cuz fuck it): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTO8IVOzauM
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>>152368777
Ya know, fair:
Bran Castle Clutch (Camel Clutch).
>>152369037
Oh yeah she does. Like, if she's being cordial or promiscuous (for what ever reason) with them, if she forgets the cross on Marine and touches her, her hand will sizzle. They annoy her greatly.
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>>152369430
Maria uses a camel clutch as well. Sounds like they'd be great rivals.
What penalties does she inflict on losers? Does she get to nibble on them in the middle of the ring? Does she make them bow and kiss her feet like lowly peasants?
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>>152369634
EMA being mad over her having the same finisher as her would be funny. Though I can change it to like a cobra clutch if need be.
Probably both, depending. She want a nibble, if her opponent exhausted her enough. I figure if Maria lose to her and EMA nibbled her, Maria's blood would be like high scoville scale hot sauce to EMA.
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>>152370145
Nothing from these drawingless fingers.
Images for the concept? a couple.
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>>152370641
Would her having white skin be a good idea? Similar to lady death?
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>Hope everything works out for you
>When do you think you'll be able to post again?
since i have been working, playing RTS games and doing all sort of stuff lately, I broke my computer mouse by accident (i draw with the mouse),and i don't want to use the touchpad to draw kek so until i get a new one? i mean i have a cheap one but it's too buggy for me.
>>152366727
>Maybe she tries and compensate for not being as spiritually powerful as Maria by being as physically strong as she can?
she is a fun character that you can work with
>>152368098
>She's easier to justify a defat and her fanatical pride means she has some negative karma coming her way.
yeah pretty much
>>152370553
you know waht you have been asking soi will tell you that anytime i see the thread up i will come but fuck it here's a that i use
>krazy_hound
>>152368547
oh nice! i want to see how she will look
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ok
so i tried to draw with the buggy mouse and yeah it's not that good kek
the tomboy succubus or at least how i imagine to her look and again sorry for rushed looking doodle
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me too anon
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>>152381185
A few suggestions.
No band around her neck. Let's move her just a little bit more from the Makoto design that inspired her.
Give her a smirk. I see her as the playful and relaxed kind of tomboy.
No handwraps, because skin contact is important for her powers.
Maybe some kind of design on her top? This may sound a little weird, but maybe print JACOB on it since her goal is to get a personal fight with God?
Give her an old fashioned demon tail with a spade tip that she can use to whip opponents with and choke them in submission holds.
Pointed ears?
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I really like the tail idea. She studied human martial arts and applied them to demons to form her own style. Tail techniques would be part of it. She probably has techniques for her horns as well.
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She'd probably have a strong breast smother move by that logic. She knows how to get the most out of her demonic features and that includes her succubus titties.
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Balloon girl wrestler
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>>152384258
>she gets thrown off a high spot.
>she just floats in the air instead of crashing to the earth.
>she gets powerbombed, but just bounces and hangs in the air.
> tries a top rope splash.
> just floats down on her opponent.
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Can't believe I forgot about this until now. I posted picrel in one or two TS threads a while ago when we were first designing the characters, and it proved to be useful then, so maybe it'll be useful now?
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Have some simple 1-10 stats.
>Maria
Strength: 4 (8 with aura)
Dexterity: 8
Constitution: 4 (8 with aura)
Wisdom: 9
Intelligence: 7
Charisma: 9
Fighting Skill: 8
>Joan
Strength: 5 (7 with aura)
Dexterity: 5
Constitution: 5 (7 with aura)
Wisdom:3
Intelligence: 6
Charisma: 5
Fighting Skill: 6
>Bo
Strength: 7
Dexterity: 6
Constitution: 6
Wisdom: 5
Intelligence: 7
Charisma: 11
Fighting Skill: 5
>Kim
Strength: 3 (Gloves raise it to 6, rises higher based on emotional state. Can go as high as 11)
Dexterity: 4
Constitution: 3
Wisdom: 4
Intelligence: 4
Charisma: 3
Fighting Skills: 2
>Pai
Strength: 7
Dexterity: 9
Constitution: 8
Wisdom: 6
Intelligence 8
Charisma: 8
Fighting Skills: 9
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Oh, at on one more note.
The aura rating is where the girls are with their aura raised at normal strength. Through concentration, they can raise it a point or two higher. Maria can even raise her strength and constitution to 11, but only for a few seconds.
Joan and Maria have different levels of spiritual strength. That's why Maria's aura is a +4 and Joan's is a +2. It's also why Maria can rise to 9 10, or 11 while Joan can only rise to 8 or 9 for few seconds.
This is difference is also reflected in how their auras decay. Maria's decays slowly from 8 down to her base 4. Joan's decays all at once dropping her to her base 5.
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Yet one more note. Pride and willpower and striking skill vs grappling skill.
Pride is how stuck-up a girl is. Willpower is confidence, clarity, and the ability to resist tapping out.
Fighting skill is not a combination of grappling and striking. Rather, it measures the ability to read and adapt to opponents and apply the correct technique at the right time. A character with Striking 10, Grappling 10, and Fighting Skills 1 knows all the the moves and can pull them off perfectly, but cannot adapt at all. She fights like a robot.
>Maria
Pride: 1
Willpower: 10
Striking: 5
Grappling: 10
>Joan
Pride: 10
Willpower: 10
Striking: 5
Grappling: 8
>Bo
Pride: 10
Willpower: 6
Striking: 6
Grappling: 6
>Kim
Pride:10
Willpower: 7
Striking: 3
Grappling: 1
>Pai
Pride: 3 (True martial artists are humble)
Willpower: 10
Striking: 9
Grappling: 9
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Heres an old oc I found on the internet and havent used. Maybe she can be useful for this since this is an elseworld type of series.
Wrestle Name: GraveBound Queen
Real names: Frankie, Elizabeth Lavenza
Age: Undefined
> Despite her cold and silent demeanor she is quite loving and friendly but is brutal in the ring.
>Is incredibly strong and is deadly to go against her. Is 9ft tall and her grip strength is not to be underestimated. Is also incredibly slow.
>Has the ability to control electricity within her body and can launch projectiles or imbued herself with it to be untouchable.
>Her main weakness is her lack of intelligence, her lack of mobility and her weaknesses being fire. But is lethal up close.
>Is mostly silent but expresses herself through her actions even with her deadpan expression during her peaceful hours.
>Follows her orders of her creators and obeys them.
>Despite not hating Maria or any of the nuns, she has an irrational fear of them gets enraged against holy warriors.
>Has a massive fixation of finding a man just like her.
Has four special moves:
1.Grabs her opponent with a bearhug and crushes them, and them finishes them with a high-voltage electrocution
2. Can put her opponent in a Boston crab and crush them with her lower body. And ends it with a powerful piledriver
3. Combos her opponent, and Grabs her victim and pulls out her bolt in her head and dive it straight into her enemy down on the floor. She precedes to jump high in the air and performs and people's elbow and causes a massive spark of explosion.
4. Charges a powerful ball of energy as big as the ring and slams it on her enemy.