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Is Curt Swan really the best Superman artist, all things considered?
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>>152361217
>flying to page 10 faster than a speeding bullet
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I always liked Garcia Lopez a lot more, but Swan is an acceptable one for the title.
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>>152361217
I wish Steve Rude did more
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I like the McGuinness Big McLargeHuge Superman
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I have a special fondness for the Byrne era because it's when I started reading.
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>>152361996
me too
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Probably depends on who you grew up with. A lot of really old Superman fans still cling to Wayne Boring. Younger fans prefer one of the recent artists.

Curt Swan, particularly when inked by Murphy Anderson, but also when inked by George Klein or Ray Burnley, turned out great stuff for a long time.
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>>152362036
Byrne's one of my favorites due to nostalgia but some of the anatomy is straight up Rob Liefeld level.
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I liked the Reeve thing Gary Frank had going on
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>S-tier
Curt Swan. John Byrne. Neal Adams.
>A-tier
Alex Ross. Joe Shuster. Ed McGuinness. Tim Sale.
>B-tier
Wayne Boring. Dan Jurgens. Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez. Ron Frenz.
>C-tier
Frank Quietly. Gary Frank. Jerry Ordway. Jorge Jimenez.
>D-tier
Jim Lee. Frank Miller.
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>>152364424
1978 is the best one.
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>>152361996
I like this version as well, but that is one weak ass house.
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>>152364424
neal adams made a great superman
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For me, it's Jon Bogdanove.
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For Golden Age is Ira
For Silver is Swan
For Bronze is Garcia
For 90s is ordway
For 00s and 10s is reis or quitely
For 20s is campbell
>>152362036
I prefer the triangle era artist.
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>>152365246
>I prefer the triangle era artist.

Triangle era had a few. You had Jurgens, Ordway, Boganove just to name a few. God what a good era.
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>>152365886
eeeyep. 90s Supes is highly underrated.
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>>152365246
>For Silver is Swan
>For Bronze is Garcia
I've been reading through Bronze Age Superman and while Swan is still good he does feel a bit antiquated by the 70s, the first Garcia-Lopez story I got to felt like a jolt.
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>>152365949
Really glad it's finally be properly collected. for as much as people rag on marvel 90s DC was really good
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>>152366036
I still have literally every single Superman comic released between 1986 and 1996. A perfect unbroken run. My favorite comics of that time (other than the Disney duck comics).
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>>152366080
I managed to pick up a good chunk of floppies from that era through various swaps and stores but it's far from complete. Really wish I was more of a DC reader back then but I was riding the marvel hype train.
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>>152366158
The best part about collecting Superman is that they printed hundreds of thousands of them and nobody wants them since 90s kids don't care about Superman so you could easily compile a pretty good collection just scouring 50 cent and dollar bins at your LCS. y.
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>>152365169
based
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>>152365246
>For 20s is campbell
You mean Jamal Campbell? Haven't read his stuff but I don't like when comic art tries to look like 3D models. They're not going to beat computers at their own game so they shouldn't even try. Comic art should be more spare and elemental.
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>>152366440
That looks horrid.
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>>152366249
Yeah, there were a few books I had to pay A LITTLE more for but on the whole I got a lot of these for a song. Honestly there's zero reason any comic from this era should ever go for more than a few bucks.
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>>152366635
Off the top of my head I think the only triangle era comics that go for a little more are the first post-crisis Flash race issue, the first handful of Doomsday appearances, and the first Bloodsport. But even then I don't think any of them go for more than say, 20 bucks. There are a few issues of Superman Adventures that go for a little bit.
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I always liked Perez’s Superman. To me it had all the elements I liked in other Superman art without any of the elements I didn’t like.
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>>152366787
Care to elaborate. I like me some Perez in general but what makes a good Superman to you.
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>>152361996
McGuinness continues to be one of the most unsung comic talents of the last 30 odd years. How one man could have fingers in so many pies and still fail to be a household name is beyond me. It's nothing short of tragic.
>>152361982
>Nexus animated film/series never
We're here to suffer...
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>>152364424
>no love for the Fleischers
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>>152364872
Yeah he is pretty underrated too. Alot of 90's DC talent deserve more job opportunities.
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>>152366994
Honestly if I knew how and why things get popular I'd be a far richer man. A lot of people deserve more credit then they get when more famous ones do far less and get it.
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>>152367037
He's just one of many 90's talents who deserved greater recognition aswell. I cant help but day dream about all I'd have him do if I had the money to burn. I really hope alot of former DC talent makes an attempt to do something of note with the DC trinity when they lapse in a decade. Just imagine a creator owned series with material from McGuinness, Bogdanov, or even Chris Sprouse. A man can dream....
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>>152367159
I really liked the Public Enemies movie and wish we'd have gotten a TV show in that style.
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>>152367203
I'm still baffled they never made an attempt to adapt Emperor Joker into a DTV movie. It would have made the perfect sequel to Public Enemies.
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>>152367270
Yeah, Emperor Joker is that bizarre kind of edgy you can really only get away with in direct to video. Though that said I'm shocked they didn't make a lot of stories. You'd think Kingdom Come would be a huge pull but I guess doing that in proper Ross style would be more expensive than they'd like. More batman Superman arcs would have been fun though
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>>152366950
For me I like Perez’s Superman looks like a sculpture of a god but with all the qualities of a living being.
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>>152367405
I dig it. He's good at making people look idealized and heroic but still like people.
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>>152367396
BATB attempted an adaption of it but Superman was cut out from the picture altogether. It really only borrows the idea of Joker getting 5th dimensional powers, everything else is original.
>Though that said I'm shocked they didn't make a lot of stories.
The sad truth is it's too late now. Most stories adapted past 2015 end up horribly butchered. Gotham by Gaslight, Superman Red Son, etc. It's almost impossible to imagine a Kingdom Come adaption as a result. The best we have to go off is TDKR.
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>>152367730
It doesn't help that the TomorrowVerse movies have what must honestly be the blandest style I've see. There were aspects of Man of Tomorrow I did like and I'd say it's probably the best of the lot but it just feels so dull a lot of the time. And the other movies are even worse. the animation and direction just lack OOMF and their filmed in the most simple way possible. X-men 97 kind of has a similar issue where it almost feels like a flash (the animation not the scarlet speedster) movie
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>>152367787
It's hard not to mope in light of these developments but I cant shake the feeling that DC is out to commit total brand suicide even now. You'd have to go back to 2018 to find a DC release (comic, cartoon, or otherwise) with anykind of fanfare behind it. It's been a steady decline in quality ever since.
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>>152367901
I think DC's been pretty okay comic wise lately. Not perfect but they're a huge step over what marvel's doing at the very least.
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Brett Breeding's pretty good
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>>152361996
It looks funny.
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>>152369833
you look funny
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Jurgens.
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>>152361982
Steve Rude draws a nice, clean Supes, very reminiscent in his style to a less - let's say, art deco or fifties inspired design aesthetic than the late Darwyn Cooke. And I wouldn't mind a prestige limited series drawn by Rude for 3-4 issues, but I'm fine with his variant covers and don't need more or consider him amongst my top three/five or anything like that.
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>>152367631
>He's good at making people look idealized and heroic but still like people.
That’s a great way to describe it.
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I wouldn't call it my favorite but I liked the Gurihiru book. It had a kind of weeb Fleischer vibe.
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>>152364424
>John Byrne
>B-tier
>Dan Jurgens
Hello Boomer

>>152364872
Hello Boomer

>>152362036
Hello Boomer

>>152364872
Hello Boomer

>>152365886
Hello Boomer

>>152365246
Hello Boomer

>>152364690
>1978
Hello Boomer
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>>152368917
That look on his face makes me think he's about to seduce that guy.
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>>152364305
Am I the only guy who kinda digs Supes with a mullet?
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>>152372823
No. I very much wish for the return of the super hair.
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>>152372851
All I hear is people complain about it and it's not like I cant understand it. I just like the slightly wild look for him.
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>>152372887
I like it too.
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>>152372887
I think it might depend on your generation. Like a lot of 90s criticism
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>>152372529
Gurihiru is only good at drawing cute girls. Their men always look like fags. They have a similar problem as Amanda Conner.
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>>152361217
Court swan?

Uhh I think bestiality's illegal buddy...
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>>152361217
Either Curt or Kurt
maybe Wayne Boring
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Nobody remembers Al Plastino.
>drew Superman for 20 years
>always #2 artist behind Wayne Boring

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