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Should Bill Everett get more love, or is he rightfully forgotten?
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>>152366851
Alot of the Timely era deserves more love in general. Most people dont know dick about the All-Winners Squad, and most of what they do know comes from bronze age/modern age reinventions. Namor continues to be scoffed at by normies for being a "gayer Aquaman" and the average MCU fag knows Jim Hammond for little else beyond his First Avenger cameo.

To get back to the question at hand, yes, Bill Everett deserves more appreciation. Carl Burgos does too. We have a laundry list of creators who were screwed over by Stan Lee who each deserve a spotlight shone on their bodies of work.
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>>152366851
i for one think we could do with fewer capeshit writers, but he created Daredevil who has had frankly a lot of great runs over the years, so maybe there should be a "Daredevil created by Bill Everett and Stan Lee" disclaimer in front of all Daredevil-related media, the way there is for Batman or Superman.
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>>152366851
Wasn't he almost as neurotic as Namor?
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>>152366921
Seethe
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>>152366915
Timely era comics are pretty shit, though. All WInners Squad is particularly awful. Even 1940s kids got bored of their cape comics, so they swtiched over mostly to stuff like pic related.
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>>152367044
Sneethe
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>>152367324
Any rule 34 of Tessie?
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Kind of an odd thing from his later life is that when he was assigned to ink the first issue of "The Defenders" (I guess because Namor was in it), Everett chose to ink every single line the penciler (Ross Andru) drew, when he drew it that way assuming that the inker would clean it up.

Stan Lee was really upset, which may have been the point for all I know.
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>>152367324
>Powerhouse Pepper
>Sungirl
>Namora
>Captain America
>Rockman
>The Angel
>Golden Age Vision
Look I'm pretty partial to the Decarlo cheesecake titles myself but to write off all the Timely output as shit is pretty gay of you. There's alot more worth appreciating than you think. Frankly I wish marvel had tried to do more with their WW2 line up outside of Invaders and pet projects like " The Twelve".
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>>152367443
Honestly that approach doesnt look half bad, but I can see why it'd get stan's panties in a bunch. Stan must have been such a nag in person. Reading about Wood's interactions with him makes alot of things make sense.
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>>152367426
She looks too generic so I wouldn't hold my breath
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>>152368036
Their best character from WW2 was gradually depowered, kicked out of her own title, killed (permanently), and retconned into a mutant.
Timely didn't like Cap, Torch, and Namor sharing a team with a woman.
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>>152366851
He's my favorite of all the Golden Age guys. You can read those early Marvel Mystery Comics and IMO the jump in quality, both in writing and especially art, from stuff like Human Torch and Angel to Namor is immediate and apparent. And he managed to keep up that quality well into the Silver Age and even the early Bronze Age. It's a shame his vices constantly got the better of him because he was very good.

>>152366999
He was a severe alcoholic which is what eventually killed him.
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>>152367426
Kill yourself.
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>>152366851
A little of both
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>>152368919
What's so great about her stories?
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>>152366851
I'm fond of his Dr. Strange work, he was the first artist after Ditko who seemed to understand the visual style that Ditko had established without copying it outright.

Also thought his first Namor story was fucking terrifying, right off the bat he murders a bunch of deep sea divers, his mother cackles with glee and the Atlantians all look goggle eyed lovercraftian monsters instead of blue skinned people.
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>>152366851
They really didn't like to credit people did they?
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>>152371554
It really wasn't until Silver Age Marvel where that started becoming common.
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>>152372484
I think Stan Lee pushed for it.
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>>152369063
I think his Namor and Amazing-Man and other stuff from the early 40s had really great concepts while his art was way better in the 50s
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>>152371267
She wasn't very interesting, she was just "what if a girl was a superhero?" At one point Timely did start trying to use her to make a copy of the serialised newspaper comic Miss Fury, with a continuing story and more intrigue instead of a one-and-done case each issue, but the sales of their hero comics were already tanking at this point.
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>>152367443
>>152369063
This looks pretty good.
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>>152374690
Everett was a genuinely great talent and if he wasn't a drunk I feel like he would be held in higher regard. He's basically just been relegated to "the guy who created Namor" but Stan kept giving him chances for a reason. He managed to work up into the early '70s and his art did a great job of evolving with the times while never looking trite.

>>152373634
I like how those '40s Namor stories make him feel much more like a moody force of nature. He's mostly pissed and just wants to fuck shit up and there's little you can do to stop him.

I need to get around to reading his Amazing Man stories.
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>>152375040
>I like how those '40s Namor stories make him feel much more like a moody force of nature. He's mostly pissed and just wants to fuck shit up and there's little you can do to stop him.
That version of Namor lasted barely a year or two. Once the US entered the war, they wanted to make all their comics more patriotic and a bitter protagonist who hated the US didn't fit. For most of the forties, Namor was a happy-go-lucky, wise-cracking, all-American hero.
Amazing Man underwent a similar transformation. Originally he was some Tibetan monk, but it wasn't long before he become an American named John.
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Bill Everett was an excellent artist and a very creative person whose life was destroyed by alcohol. Stan loved him, but in Everett's later years couldn't depend on him.

Daredevil's origin story had to be finished by Steve Ditko and Sol Brodsky because Everett couldn't finish it in time.

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