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Reminder that S.H.I.E.L.D. as it was from 1960s to 2000s is dead 02/03/26(Tue)19:54:43 No.152367398
Reminder that S.H.I.E.L.D. as it was from 1960s to 2000s is dead 02/03/26(Tue)19:54:43 No.152367398
Reminder that S.H.I.E.L.D. as it was from 1960s to 2000s is dead Anonymous 02/03/26(Tue)19:54:43 No.152367398 [Reply]▶
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The Bendis era pretty much wiped out SHIELD. I don’t even blame the tv show because that came after the culling.
But Steranko’s versions of SHIELD with Nick Fury, Dum Dum, Jasper Stilwell, Gabe Jones, Clay Quartermain, etc are all dead and gone.
Or they’re turned into villains like the Contessa.
Only the agents who went more toward superheroes, escaped death and being out of character: Jimmy Woo, Sharon Carter, Black Widow, etc.
Do longtime Marvel fans not care? I never see anyone bring this up.
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It's mainly because for 00s/10s fanboys their preference for Nick Fury is:
>Garth Ennis version
>Ultimate version
>MCU version
And the 00s/10s fanboys usually don't read anything made before the Quesada era which also became a problem when some took over at Marvel
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>>152367398
Isn’t the entirety of the Marvel Universe sort of like that at this point? S.H.I.E.L.D. is only more notable because it got a big push in the MCU and Ultimate universes. Almost every other part of the universe is similarly “dead” at this point, just kept around to IP farm.
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Global War On Terror ruined SHIELD since everyone associates government onions groups with war crimes and morally ambiguous assholes, whereas part of the appeal of Nick Fury and his inner circkevwas that he was a moral paragon in a sea of liars and sociopaths.
>>152367594; the Strange Adventure line has the death of Baron Strucker and Yellow Claw arcs. Sternako didn't turn to crap until they made the Nick Fury ongoing and Sternako basically tried to turn Nick Fury into the Spirit, complete with creating Scorpio as his Octopus; a villainous master of disguise who's identity was never supposed to be revealed.
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Secret War was eyebleed dogshit with the worst writing it could possibly have received, and I'm not going to pretend that it wasn't just a five issue setup for how cool Daisy Dukes is (here's a tip: she isn't, she's fucking lame) or that those were the (also extremely white, to anybody but an American) characters that Bendis and Marvel chose to follow into the new century instead of Nick Fury and Bowler Fat Guy
but it was also over 20 years ago and complaining about it now has two main problems
one that you have to acknowledge that it happened, that Nick Fury sent a bunch of brainwashed heroes on an assassination mission and they messed up, somehow - fucking Wolverine didn't snikt somebody ffs - and their target waited an entire year and hired a bunch of legacy villains and established a tier system of powers all to murder the heroes, together, all at once, like a fucking Scooby Doo plot from AO3
two that complaining now is like complaining then that Secret Wars happened, that the Beyonder took fucking Detroit or whatever the fuck it was into space and made a planet, Spider-Man got a magic costume that he didn't realize for YEARS was a living creature, all of that bullshit
forget it, it's goofy, it's done, there's no perfect continuity and there never was, wait for someone who isn't an absolute footfag of a bootlicker to come along and write about how fucking stupid all of Secret War and the Bendis-era SHIELD crap is instead of trying to build in the ashes of the continuity he torched
his is right there for the torching, that's how this shit works
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I'd argue it was on life support after the Nick Fury Vs. SHIELD mini series because after that SHIELD was on a constant cycle of going down in flames due to internal corruption, being rebuilt and being disbanded again. If it was just a hero team? That's part and parcel with team books but this is supposed to be a pretty big government organization. Also? Whenever it's destroyed editors and writers forget it was narrative short cut anytime a story needed some kind of government or law enforcement representation.
Also remember in the 90's when Nick Fury was killed by the Punisher and in the same issue his son Mikel (remember him? Marvel doesn't want you to) lost an eye and become leader of SHIELD for reasons nobody could explain? That's when 'classic' SHIELD truly died then it just became whatever the writer wanted it to be, usually a shady shitty strawman for US black ops, especially during the Gulf War years.
TR;DR When Marvel stopped caring about rank designation for SHIELD uniforms and everybody wore white? It was over.
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Nick Fury is honestly my favorite character. I'm a big spy geek in general, but one of the things I liked about Fury is how rough around the edges he is. He grew up in Hell's Kitchen and showed it.
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I probably got past Steranko, but not much past.
Didn't Fury drink some sort of immortality serum?
Everybody else ought to be either in a retirement home or dead by now.
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Interesting that this was posted the exact day I reach the SHIELD section in my Marvel silver age read-through. Ive only read 2 issues so far but I like the art, I only need Fury to be more serious. He's kinda goofy. When does It get good in (you)r opinion?
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>tfw you're stuck explaining to boomers that Colombian memes aren't indicative of civil unrest in South America instead of being the agent that gets to do a "field-op" at Evo now that the Saudi's own it