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Organic production, Mechanical ejection

>>152373153
organic
Why can't a spider themed superhero make his own webs?
>webs don't come out of a spider's limbs
Spiderman can walk up walls while wearing shoes.
>peter needs to be shown he's smart
That's just lazy writing then. He can still make gadgets with the web he produces himself.

Both. The mechanical ones would be his workhorse, and the organics would be his fallback.

Organic but only when he transforms into his monsterous Spider-Man form.

Mechanical are better from a writer’s perspective.

He can modify them, run out of ammo, arm cartridges into web bombs, they can get damaged.

>>152373153
The terrible MCU films showed why keeping him as close to the comics as possible is necessary. Webshooters. Old aunt and uncle. Raimifags and nonreaders need not apply.

>>152373153

Mechanical, for a few reasons. First, the mechanical webs emphasize that spider-man that Peter chose. His power set is super strength, speed, agility, dangersense, and stickiness. Only that last one is remotely spider-like, and the event where he made 4 different hero personas really shows that the webs are the only thing that really ties it together.

Second, Spider-man is all about man vs technology. Most of his iconic villains are tech based and the webshooters put Peter in that same world as them. He's the heroic version that uses technology for good, and you'd lose that with organic webbing.

Third, that's how he was written for decades. Organic webbing is only around because it shows up in one trilogy of movies, and they ditched it for webshooters going forward.

And webshooters are just cool.

>>152373296
not all spiders produce web

>>152373153
Organic but it has to come out his ass

>>152373153
Organic but because he's a mutant.

>>152373296
I like mechanical because it's just a cool gadget and making everything streamlined like Tony's nanotech armor instead of blocky/chunky mechanical moving parts or an excuse to hear the actual air/gas pressure coming out of Peter's webshooter is much more appealing to look at and to make sense of. THWIP could come from an organic webshooter but it just doesn't seem as cool. Also beyond the makes Peter appear more smart argument, it being another facet of his life that he can't patent or use freely is more interesting and sensible as it ties into Peter never being able to cash in again even if he wanted to (which he doesn't...because of you know) and the mechanical offers the excuse that the web doesn't contain DNA from Peter himself which could then be tracked to him that way.
It also makes it easier for different webs to be limited on a stricter basis. If Peter could just eat a pill that makes him able to shoot electric webs for a span of time, I think that just gives him too many options while mechanical means he has to pay for the equipment and materials. You will say the same can be said for the pills but then why doesn't he just rewrite his DNA to make that permanent? Mechanical helps gate off the origin powers to what they should be and keeps all the familiar dilemmas there or can eventually be erased once Peter makes more money or experiments more to create permanent solutions to his mechanical webshooters.
I also have ideas about ankle mounted webshooters, ones on mechanical spider arms, and more. That all isn't mutually exclusive but the mechanical feels more cohesive and realistic at the same time. It was an accident. The spider was irradiated and was dying so its DNA being somewhat messed up and not being at full strength or some parts of it being supercharged by radiation while others are gone is interesting. I also think that's why Peter didn't turn into a spider-monster.
It also makes it easier for villains to fight his greatest weapon.

mechanical
>bu-buh-but he's spider-man!
through branding, the only naturally spider themed part of him is being able to stick to walls and that's because of nuclear force
mechanical shows off his genius

>>152373153
Organic web fags already have a character. Silk; she’s been around for a decade.

>>152373410
Sorry I meant to say Tony's nanotech is fucking LAME and organics are not as lame as that but it just isn't as cool from a tech/engineering nerd perspective.
Peter would also much rather fiddle around with tech rather than his own body so it also feels to me gives more options for writers to have Peter add more or less to his arsenal while staying in character. Peter didn't exactly like the whole Man-Spider ordeal.

>>152373153
Organic for normal usage. Mechanical for when he need more

>>152373153
Organic webs that decompose after a few hours is a super convenient power considering spider webs don’t do that. Them being synthetic is less egregious; they’re tailored to Peter’s use.

>>152373153
>Let's Settle this now
It's not gonna be settled because this exact thread with that exact op image has been repeated for decades here now. Get over it. There's no more discussion.

>>152373476
I'll get over it when Spider-Man gets over his uncle

>>152373153
organic webbing is something I would only accept if it was deliberately genetically engineered or grafted, as part of some kind of Weapon X thing that was either intentionally or accidentally done to Peter. It's way, way too specific to just be a mutation, and makes no sense.

Granted, the webs never make sense. they can fire off like a bullet and instantly traverse long distances without any drag or deformation. But I feel like originally, they had more patience to let his web spray out slowly, because it was the 60s.

But there's two things in favor of tech ones:
1) Peter making them himself reminds us that he's more than just a guy with powerful genes, but also has a great brain
2) mixing superpowers with low-level tech is my favorite fucking thing. So many guys with powers I'm like "why don't you also have a gadget or two? you could use one."
Spidey not only has the web shooters, but a bunch of spare ammo, AND a belt with a flashlight AND fucking radio tracers like Batman. he's the whole package.

>>152373182
... huh. That could work okay. so it'd come out of his stomach and he'd have either tubes that lead to the wrists, or he'd milk himself and put it into capsules?
>>152373296
>Spiderman can walk up walls while wearing shoes.
Uh only if at least one hand is touching at all times. meaning his shoes are purely providing traction. Otherwise no, he has to take them off. that's why his costume is like that. which synergizes with the low-level enhanced durability he has, so he can walk around in socks and be fine. That's also a bad point regardless.

>>152373352
quite right.
I have often pointed out that the spider need not have provided any actual spider DNA, especially since spider strength does not work that way, it's purely a size thing. stickiness is something Nightcrawler can do, too. so Peter could easily be either just a mutant or a standard radiation-induced mutate.

Why don't any scientist characters including Peter himself ever question the logic of inheriting the proportionate strength of a spider?

>>152373494
>huh. That could work okay. so it'd come out of his stomach and he'd have either tubes that lead to the wrists, or he'd milk himself and put it into capsules?
More like his wrists produce the fluid but can't shoot it out so he makes the shooters that spin the fluid into all kinds of different webs.

>>152373153
How about web shooters with organic webbing.
Peter just has to refill them with a spidersilk dookie every few hours.

>>152373296
>Why can't a spider themed superhero make his own webs?
My boy, lemme tell you about a little superhero called Batman and HIS superpowers...

>>152373687
Batman has the power of bullshit and money, Peter got his powers by way of a spiderbite. Why CANT the Spiderbite infuse his DNA with webshooting bullshit? Why stop at just super strength and spider-sense?

>>152373729
>super strength
not a spider power
>precognitive
not a spider power

>>152373729
Before OMD it was suggested that his fear of becoming more spider than man subconsciously held him back from things like night vision and wrist-mounted stinger knives, which also came with the bite.

I don’t like mechanical because the web would be way too useful to only be used by Spider-Man, there’s no way he could justify not sharing it.

Mechanical. It's an outlet that displays Peter's intellect and it's a source for personal improvement and drama.
Organic has zero upsides outside of appeasing secondaries who think that the rest of his powers "aren't spider enough"

>>152373593
hmm idunno man

>>152373880
he tried.
the company laughed at him because the webs dissolved in an hour. before he could explain that he puts that in on purpose so as not to litter the streets.
It might sound hokey but that's been how the world works for a long time. everyone in charge of decisionmaking is a moron of the highest caliber.

>>152373379
Not true, all spiders can produce silk even if they don't use it to create a web

>>152373475
hey yeah good point. plus that means he can't custom tailor the fluid to different situations, like extra strong versions or extra weak versions so that he won't get caught in his own webs, or the concrete webbing..

Webshooter for Peter, Organic for Kaine, a mercykill for Ben , Gwen, Spiderboy and Miles

>>152373153
Webshooters are a stupid concept.

>>152373153
Organic webshooter in biologically accurate location (asshole)

>>152373153
>Let's settle this once and for all: the thing that the character has used since his origin and in most versions and adaptations? Or the thing that the character used in a single adaptation and was lazily shoehorned into the comics for a very short time due to some ill conceived synergy concept?

Gee, I wonder?

Webshooters always bothered me because how some kid managed to build a military grade weapon by himself in his room? As contradictory as it sounds, some kid with spider powers being able to throw his own web is less of a break of suspension of disbelief than some kid having spider powers AND is a super genius gagdeteer

>>152373153
Only peter should make the web with science, every one else not a genius should get the horrible body horror and insatiable hunger

>>152373153
I don't think they they ever made proper reference to the webshooters since the 90's cartoon. Webbing never runs low/runs out. They never show him changing cartridges etc. Villains never damage them. They should have just kept organic after they changed it to match the OG movies. I don't know what they've done to Ben Reilly these days but he should have webshooters because they just work right with the design and the impact web ball gimmick.

>>152373153
Implanted web shooters

>>152374934
But... I saw that one thing when I was a kid...

>>152373153
Organic web shooters are creepy and too specific a mutation. I would be okay with them as something Man-Spider has, but not Peter.

>>152374934
Man, movie synergy must die.

>>152373153
Now you are reminded of that retarded storyline in the comics where Peter goes through a spiritual rebirth and even comes out of an egg to justify him getting organic webshooters like the Raimi Movies at the time.

>>152373182
A Spider-clone OC I have does that. He's got a thing on his back that makes the web, it feeds into this storage tank on his back (that also covers his spider-arms) which connect to his web-shooters on his forearms

>>152373153
Its a made up fantasy world with a giant rock man. Spiderman having webs in his wrists doesnt seem like a big deal. Maybe if Spider-Man was by himself in a more grounded world like the amazing movies. Mechanical Spider-Man always seemed odd in a world of gods and super mega geniuses. The web shooters arent even that more realistic.

>>152373153
organic if he has to do the w sign, it's stupid for a webshooter to make him do an uncomfortable gesture every time he shoots web

>>152376029
Didn't he explain in the 90's cartoon that the whole reason why he has to do such a specific gesture for the webslinging it's so he doesn't trigger the webshooter when he just grabs something or clenches his fist?

>>152373153
>gets bit by spider
>doesn’t get most defining power spiders are known for
Why even bother with the radioactive spider gimmick, if you’re just going to make him go go gadget man

>>152374949
>because how some kid managed to build a military grade weapon by himself
A kid managed to build a nuclear reactor in his parents shed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn

Its rare but geniuses (autists) like this do exist - probably rarer still that the very vety rare genius level person likr that being that young also happens to get the once in a lifetime irradiated spider bite but hey, they're fucking comic books.

Any issues with suspension of disbelief with mechanical webshooters (and yes issues do exist) are EASILY acceptable to be in comparison with the peak cringe of organic webshooters. Yeah I get why Raimi did it Id have likely done that same, but thats for those 3 fuckin movies, nothing else.

He uses mechanical webshooters.

>>152373153
I prefer mechanical. I know we're talking comics and fiction here, but I cannot get behind them coming out of his wrists considering spiders coom them out of their abdomen.

>>152373182
fpbp

he has organics, but uses his brain to make the shooters with different settings and shit to have different types of webbing (impact, wide stream, zips, etc)

>>152373153
>organic webbing
QoL to make writing the character easier
>webshooter capsules
Interesting concept that makes the character nuanced (he can run out at inopportune times)

>>152376754
Having his webs be mechanical creates opportunities to make the character think outside the box. I was re-reading that one Clone Saga mini where he was in Portland, he had to resort to making makeshift grappling hooks and other means of subduing enemies

>>152373153
Mechanical. Organics are gross.

>>152373182
The more i think about it the more it makes sense
>Can shoot webs naturally but the ejector gives them a lot more range
>ejector can also be the extra funky move adding shit like electric/modified webs
>Adds some extra progression/stakes since peter would be at a disadvantage without his equipment
>could still make synthetic webbing for other purposes (like being able to keep more permanent or decomposing web) since peter's a turbo nerd and would figure out the chemical composition

I dont think that either mechanical nor organic are a 100% correct choice since you can make a solid argument for how much either stands on its own, so it really depends on what sort of depiction of peter they wanna do.

>>152374653
That makes sense for that instance but when he's brushing shoulders with people like tony stark, the fantastic 4, SHIELD or hell even people who would just be able to pull off a "i know a dude" like frank the frankisher there is still no way no one would have either taken up peter's offer or tried to copy him.

>>152377033
>there is still no way no one would have either taken up peter's offer or tried to copy him.
on a side note that really makes me want a she hulk comic where its her helping spiderman sue some company over plagiarism lmao

>>152373153
Feels better if it's organic. Otherwise any person in that universe could have made wrist webshooters. If it's part of his spider superpowers it feels more consistent to me.
On the other hand having them mechanical does allow for more creativity by having him run out of juice or replacing them with other types of web or whatever.

>>152378351
>Otherwise any person in that universe could have made wrist webshooters.
Funny you say that, Chris Claremont made Wolvie's claws come out of his hands for that exact reason.
I completely disagree of course, because it reduce superheroes to their powerset alone and not their characters. It also invalidate gadget superheroes like Batman, since "anyone who take his gadgets become Batman".

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