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I didn't...
>jizo statues: 22
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wait, it's a Kitsune and Sasuke story? This is going to be interesting.
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>>153201334
we'll get tospace usagieventually, anon
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https://youtu.be/YD8xLYHyCAc?si=0FDrxhMSbHvkvQ_x&t=16
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>>153201379
lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YyzVXQyE_8
Kitsune.exe has stopped working, please contact your network admin
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>>153201487
I wonder if theres like a weird parralel plane of existance where all this magic shit happens that you must tap into or stumble upon trough destiny or meddling. Otherwise everyone would know about it for sure.
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>>153201395
I was hoping for https://youtu.be/PyO10ZYGY-Y?t=14
but that works too, I guess
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Very Classic Dr. Strange like
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Burned through a few storytimes.
Usagi and Tomoe separating makes me sad. They'd have been good together. I feel that like Usagi, Tomoe would try to make the best of what life brings her including a surprise husband. Any spoiler anons wanna tell me how that eventually plays out?
Usagi and Mayumi also made me sad. She was a fun companion and I'd have liked it if she stuck around for a couple more volumes before the end. I guess her death reinforces to Usagi that he should be alone because those he loves or cares for will die.
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>>153201539
I prefer when magic is impossible to understand rather than having a magic system. that said feudal and ancient japan did feature plenty of magic users like diviners and exorcists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onmy%C5%8Dji
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>>153201641
>Snake cult
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gHRiOHTphw
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half the reason I support gen and kitsune getting together is to get kiyoko a better role model to emulate...
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it's part of the tragedy, they both would be great together but, out of honor and sense of duty, tomoe can't leave her post and usagi doesn't want to settle down. incidentally, it's also why I like mayumi, she was willing to forego anything and stay with usagi on his travels. she might be clingy and slightly unstable but damn it she was trying to give her all. (and she did)
>Any spoiler anons wanna tell me how that eventually plays out?there's a small moment with BIG implications in the most recent stories, you'll see when we get to the IDW run. but there's alsoSenso, a half-canon half-spinoff that takes place in the future and shows tomoe married the other guy...
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>>153201858
maybe I should've said, these are the best kiyoko stories
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>>153201886
you can't get rid of meddle man so easily >>153201896
the hourglass clan
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>>153201907
This page seems unusually grisly for a "mundane" meddling event. Like it's not something supernatural like the Sasuke story, or a Red-Cloud-Castle-tier Bushido Moment. They're just bandits vs bounty hunters.
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>>153202011
plus the brutal fight leading up to it.
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>>153202055
yeah. but thatis only a fraction of the pain and misery SENSO is. stick around to the end of the storytime and you'll see.
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>>153202029
Saburo was also the name of the samurai who was part of the Kojima clan's trade delegation. I know Saburo isn't exactly an uncommon name but it's interesting that both of them have similar interactions with Usagi.
>>153202100
Mom is definitely ronin-pilled on Feudal Japan.
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>>153201210
One thing I like about Sasuke is that his sword seems to be a way for him to conserve his magic power. He uses his sword as his primary weapon and only if it won't hack it will he bring out the magic.
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>>153201354
>Tomoe - my shipper soul is in pain. I don't even want to think of it right now.
>Mayumi - dead
>Kitsune - interested in THE RHINO
>Chizu - fighting millions of neko ninja
Man is there no possible happy ending for Usagi with a lovely lady?
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>>153202277
I love these "explain events in the story for any new readers" dialogue moments that a long running story inevitably has to include.
>"The last time I saw you was at the battle of Adachi Plan. That was against Lord Hikiji."
>"Uhh, yeah. I was there too Usagi. I nearly died that day. I literally just killed three black sun samurai an hour ago.
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>>153202317
lord Hikiji is sus!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Se-oR8FWE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOMj7WttkOA
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case in point >>153201725
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>>153202303
very avant-garde off panel floo
>FLOO!: 24
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>>153202368
https://youtu.be/mmPIATjCgvE
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>>153201539
Probably some winds of magic/warp shit like in warhammer fantasy. Hatakeyama says something interesting here: >>153201262
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that is it for today, thanks for reading.
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>>153202501
Thanks for storytiming, Murder!
I was just wondering, how much longer till we get toUbasute?
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>>153201277
What a dumbass! All he had to do was say "Good, hand it over!", then take the thing back right away before the evil wizard gets any more pissed off. Instead he's gonna screw around and make her scream and dawdle on the streets long enough for the cops or worse to show up.
>>153201288
Worse like fuckin' Usagi Miyamoto, Walking Cuisinart and Meddler Supreme
I guess you just can't get good goons these days
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>>153202468
>Feudal Version of Guile's theme start playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axibQV5YsOk&pp=ygUrc3RyYW5nZSBzdW5zZXQ gc3RyZWV0IGZpZ2h0ZXIgZXggcGx1cyBhbH BoYQ%3D%3D
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>>153202559
I'll get the napkins ready...
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The bawoo guys are my favorites, but I like the extra effort this guy put in.
Book 26
474 Usagis (11705 total)
910 Panels (25173 total)
No Nekos (1183 total)
No Komori (198 total)
No Mogura (37 total)
No Ninjas of the Dark Light (4 total)
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>>153202501
I have some Shoki lore from the land of dragons to share with you'll ronins.
Big print of Shoki inside an alleyway studio in Suzhou. This studio was in a tourist-y area and they did caricatures portraits.
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>>153202670
Makes me think there should be an edit of >>153201223 but with kitsune instead of the netsuke
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>>153201633
I can never decide whether it means something that Usagi can actually see Shoki here.
>>153201852
Lord Shoki already showed up earlier, Anon.
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>>153202699
Antique painting of Shoki from an antiques emporium in Shanghai. Check out the price tag!
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>>153202368
Usagianons lay it on me how bad was FEUDAL JAPAN?? It wasn't kino adventures and yokai and beautiful women and honorable samurai and deadly ninja and TRUE LOVE AND ROMANCE was it?
TomoexUsagianon losing it still...
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>>153201725
What i like about this is that instead of sperging out like any number of obnoxious yorikis, bounty hunters etcetera who have already appeared, Usagi just goes "okay, let's hear it" when the obvious questions don't have good answers.
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>>153202755
Lastly, exciting things are happening in the Shoki fandom! Game Science's next game in the Black Myth series is none other than El Jefe Horible himself!
https://youtu.be/s_1PkIX4ozc
>>153202741
>Lord Shoki already showed up earlier
Did he? I think Stan mentioned him in his story notes but unless I'm misremembering this story is the first time Shoki is drawn in the comic.
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>>153201529
>Man Chester Cheetah did not age gracefully.
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around 2 to 3 weeks left.
>>153202826
>has two guys carrying his sword, riding on a giant tiger, dripped in the sickest armour
>has never paid a single minute of overtime.
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>>153202704
I like the way you think.
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>>153202501
Thanks Murder! This storytime feels a bit shorter then usual though
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>>153201793
Missed a Floo there for a moment, my friend. Glad you counted it.
>>153201907
Not again. Many skulls to audit but not as much as last time.
Welcome back to the death rattle tally! No undead cries were counted for obvious reasons. Here are the new screams found in today's storytime:
>Zhaa!: 1
>Gyaha!: 1
>Eep!: 1
See attachment for total cry so far. As always, if you have any questions about the count, feel free to ask.
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>>153202758
>how bad was FEUDAL JAPAN??
Really bad in some ways, surprisingly decent (still bad though) in other ways. Far too much to get into a post but we talk about it a lot in the yearly storytime, picking over every little bit of minutiae to separate fact from fiction.
>>153202828
>How many years have passed in universe since then?
Barely a month. 2024 was 40 years of Usagi comics being published but the time passed as experienced by Usagi since "The Goblin Of Adachigahara" in Albedo Anthromorphics #2 is like 6 years, tops. We don't call him the Meddle-man for nothing, he's getting into one wacky adventure every other day.
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Komainu/Karashishi guarding a temple in Shanghai.
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>>153201256
>nutted but she still suckin
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Dont know if this has been posted yet but Ill post it anyway.
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>>153203028
>we need those sandwiches to continue the fight against the minamoto rabble!
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>>153201223
Why the fuck are the forces of good not caring about him. What the fuck does it mean that Jei is no longer a threat because now he's in a host that can no longer fight back.
This is exactly the fucking problem I have with Jei always coming back. The one person who is able to deal with him has to be forced to look the other way so we can keep having the bunnies own Joker keep coming back for another gripping story that's going to play out the same forever and always.
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>>153201962
The knockon effects from the Inazuma bounty raise is one of those little bits of worldbuilding I love, combined with stuff like "Tomoe pisses off a courtier by relating his family's treachery from her dream" and "seaweed merchant really has it in for Usagi", or "Usagi killed treacherous councillor and has to skip Edo for a few volumes".
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>>153202704
There IS such an edit, it was made many years ago by yours truly.
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>>153202741
>Lord Shoki already showed up earlier, Anon.
Oh I see what you meant now. Lord Shoki showed up in an earlier PAGE in this storytime. Welp, there's only one thing left to do now!
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Ishida too!For now....
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The whole page and its panels are great (many such cases with Sakai!)
>Usagi kicks one of the goons down
>Other goon comes in behind him swinging his sword, the "camera" is pointed from the right looking left
>the next panel the "camera" swings to the left pointed at the right, "behind" Usagi, but the goon shares a word balloon with the previous panel
>Usagi does the Itto Special and flips the goon onto his buddy from the top panel whom he had previous tripped off
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>>153202758
In 1600's early Edo period where Usagi takes place?
Not great, not terrible.
Plus side was that there were no more wars and the establishment was doing its best to make internal conflicts impossible.
They did this in some draconian and oppressive ways, like by banning weapons from commoners, draining clan treasuries intentionally, so nobody could raise large professional armies.
Then there was the 4 part caste system with several outlier groups, with the system basically working like this.
>Outside the castes, above the castes: Emperor and his palace nobles (guys who do religious services and in some ways rule you), Shogun (technically part of the bushi, but he de facto rules you)
>The castes: Samurai/bushi (the guys who shank you) > peasants (the guys who feed you) > artisans (the guys who make stuff) > merchants (the guys who you owe money to)
>Outside the castes, below the castes: Hinin (literally translates to "non-humans", street performers, prostitutes, former criminals, beggars, the people who entertain you), Eta (literally translates to "filthy ones", lowest social class, tanners and leatherworkers, butchers, executioners and undertakers, guards and night-watchmen, the guys you tolerate because the society needs them)
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>>153203392
On the other hand, things weren't "as bad" as Usagi stories may make them seem.
For instance, bushido bullshit was less prevalent. The Samurai followed a series of guidelines which would later get turned into ironclad rules in Bushido code, which wasn't a term coined until 1800s, when a pencil pusher with swords wrote about how modern samurai were a bunch of shoyu shoujos and how samurai of old were honorable and based and shit.
Unfortunately for all of us, his writings became mandatory reading for Imperial Japanese army officers after the Meiji restoration and that's why Japanese were so crazy during WW2 and why samurai movies have so much bushido bullshit in them.
During sengoku period, samurai were much less gungho about honor and death before dishonor, with low- and mid-ranked samurai leaving their masters employ if shit got too real.
Meanwhile the higher ranking samurai (Hatamoto class) were pretty much stuck with their lord, due to all the shit they had being owed to their lord and being given to and guaranteed to them by said lord.
If a new lord took over, there was no guarantee that the Hatamoto of old lord could keep their valuables, ranks, stipends etc, so they had more of a stake in their lords clans survival and in case their lord was losing, they in turn had nothing to lose, so banzai time it is!
Ritual suicides were definitely a thing and there were multiple different ways of sudokuing yourself, all of which varied based on your sex, social standing and situation.
Lovers suicide for example, was committed by couples who were forbidden to marry, they would tie themselves together by hand and then jump off a very tall place.
This was frowned upon by the society as it was seen as an act of rebellion against the social order.
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>>153203511
>Unfortunately for all of us, his writings became mandatory reading for Imperial Japanese army officers after the Meiji restoration and that's why Japanese were so crazy during WW2 and why samurai movies have so much bushido bullshit in them.
One autist really lead to the Japanese in the 30s and 40s being a fucking nightmare, huh?
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he did actually do the stuff he mentioned here neat
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>>153203617
>local onmyoji single-handedly keeping the forces of darkness at bay for centuries, quote "I do it for free"
I love Sasuke.
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(My apologies for enmanon if I have gotten some things wrong, I hope you correct me and permit me to perform seppuku to regain my honor)
Speaking of seppuku, let's continue on them.
>Oibara: Committing seppuku after one’s superior dies. Made illegal by Tokugawa shogunate in early Edo period
>Tsumebara: Forced seppuku to punish a samurai. You get no kaishakunin to help you on your way out
>Tachibara: Committing seppuku while standing.
>Kanshibara: Committing seppuku to protest the behavior of another samurai. the only way you could protest your bosses stupid decisions, in order to comit this, you would slice your belly, dress the wound, walk up to your boss, reveal your wound and speak your mind while bleeding to death
>Kamabara: Committing seppuku by using a sickle.
>Kagebara: Committing seppuku but hiding the wound to shock the audience. Mostly used in kabuki plays.
>Funshi: which is any suicide made to protest or state dissatisfaction. aka the "I fucked up and am angry so I slit my belly" seppuku
And then there was the garden variety Seppuku, which was committed because you had done something bad and in order to make sure your family didn't have to bear the consequences, you would self terminate.
In a proper seppuku you would compose a death poem, eat lightly before the whole thing so as not to smell up the place after slitting your belly.
You could ask for a friend or relation to act as your Kaishakunin (second, the dude with a sword who decapitates you after you slit your belly) unless the shogunate ordered your killing, in which case an official Kaishakunin would be used instead.
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>>153203661
What was Sasuke up to during the years between 1933 and 1945?
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>>153203617
Wait what years are these stories set in?
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>>153201698
>lmao you gave me money to buy groceries but I stole them anyway
I feel like this throws Kitsune's and Kiyoko's behavior into an even worse light. If they routinely just steal the shit they need, it's even more incredible that they manage to spend their loot at the speed they must be to need more all the time.
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Merchant's pulling a really Groo face here.
>>153201798
>Do you think we would have such poor swordsmen as part of our organization?
>Frankly, yes.
>>153201844
This girl is the least animal-y animal person Stan's ever drawn, I think.
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>>153202286
Not to diss Stan, I love this comic, but I do think this story is where it really cements itself to me that Usagi is not made for binging, because you start seeing all the seams and reused elements. This is just a variation on the "old lady and her servant wander as beggars to get revenge for her husband, who was the master of Gen's father" setup
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>>153201980
Did we ever count CLAP! blade catches?
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>You would have been dead long ago if you had not saved my life by bandaging my leg wound!
This guy isn't just ungrateful, he's dense too.
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They speak with unprecedentedFLOOency
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>>153203771
>I feel like this throws Kitsune's and Kiyoko's behavior into an even worse light. If they routinely just steal the shit they need, it's even more incredible that they manage to spend their loot at the speed they must be to need more all the time.
They do it all for the love of the game
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>>153203684
Kaishakunin job wasn't a very glorious one, because due to Japanese autism, you couldn't just decapitate someone, no, you had to leave a small sliver of skin and flesh to keep the head attached to the body (ask lord Enma about Japanese afterlife why this was necessary).
Also, while Kaishakunin were of samurai rank, they were still effectively executioners, so, their social standing was complicated.
Lastly, I might as well talk about how you could issue an complaint in the system, if you were a peasant.
Basically, you had to gather your villages or regions gripes, and present them to the lord, then get killed, because complaining to the lord was haram.
Similarly, another way for the populace to let their leaders know they were out of food was by doing an Ikki, a peasant revolt. These would usually end bloodily, for the peasants.
That's all off the top of my head, I might have gotten few details somewhere down the line wrong, but I'm sure our king of hell will send a flaming rooster after me for writing mad shit.
Anyways, thanks for reading my essay on why and how Feudal Japan sucked.
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>>153203763
>what years are the stories of the comic book series Kaito '84 set in?
We may never known, anon. We may never know.
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>>153202449
>Sasuke's gonna die soon if he continues like this.
I'm pretty sure there's an implication somewhere thatSasuke has been doing this shit continuously since the Heian era. Apparently he's quite capable of resisting the effects of age.
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>>153203839
We never saw Hayamanake die did we? He just loses his hand and disappears
>>153203867
He's a wizard anon. A stone cold volcel. Bitches are beneath his notice
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>>153203924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKNt3j-4bNg
First you get the undead hordes, then the money, then the bitches!
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>>153203546
there were a lot of systematic problems with the post restoration government which were unrelated to bushido horseshit, but it did make it just a little worse.
Also, I remember the genesis of codified bullshitdo being more complicated, mostly being constructed by two dipshits with polar opposite worldviews making shit up post restoration. Might be remembering that wrong though, idk.
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Sasuke is a paradox. He is extremely powerful and wise and could easily carry his own title. He is the closest this comic has to an actual superhero. But his power has limits and takes a heavy toll on him, so he never feels overpowered or Mary Sue-ish. Nobody wants to be him and do his job, we want him to take a break.
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>Lastly, I might as well talk about how you could issue an complaint in the system, if you were a peasant.
>Basically, you had to gather your villages or regions gripes, and present them to the lord, then get killed, because complaining to the lord was haram.
>Similarly, another way for the populace to let their leaders know they were out of food was by doing an Ikki, a peasant revolt. These would usually end bloodily, for the peasants.
iirc, there was also a secret third way, where peasants would just stop growing shit and hide out in the woods until the daimyos stopped being faggots.
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>>153203989
He must forever walk that lonely road.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfhM84xUf_o
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>>153203787
Sword claps: only 4 (counted 2022)*
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Good writeup anon. Four posts deep and we still haven't talked about merchant guilds, or the foreigners, or the shogunate's own messed up court politics, or the Shinto-Buddhist ecclesiastical administration, and we've barely touched on the interaction between the classes and the non-classes. There is just simply too much ground to cover about Feudal Japan.
>>153203839
That is a GREAT Shoki. This is your best work yet.
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Yes anon always delivers.
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This reminds me of a mechanic Vampire the Masquerade (or Requiem cant remember which). A vampire old enough can take a severe hit to their humanity meter if they live long enough to see their culture/civilisation drastically change or go extinct, making them more alien, out-of-place and hard to understand to others.Sasuke has got to feel disoriented as he wanders the world of his descendants, and Usagi and others in turn should notice Sasuke being really archaic and old-timey. But I guess since Sasuke has been out and about instead of sleeping in a coffin, he's used to the quirks and customs of Usagi's era. I feel he should be act more like a Japanese Dracula and accidentally slip his preference for old-timey stuff every now and then
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All time great Usagi page for me.
Also I missed the last storytime (Fox Hunt Volume) but thinking back it's got one of the best selections of one off stories with things like Red Cloud Fortress, Outlaw and Scabbards.
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And while talking about seppuku I forgot to mention that with women, their seppuku worked in a way where one would slit their own throat, after tying their feet together (to avoid spreading their legs post-mortem and thus, becoming indecent).
As for all those other things, yeah, they go outside my general knowledge, I also didn't mention the rice exchange and the Feudal Japanese rice futures trading.
I was kinda hoping you would unleash some of your own knowledge here.
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>>153202828
He left in early summer, now it's spring of the next year. Almost 20 years for less than a year of in-comic time.
He had... things to do up north (you'll see). He has been heading south for some time now.
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>>153204048
>I feel he should be act more like a Japanese Dracula and accidentally slip his preference for old-timey stuff every now and then
He kinda did this during his first appearance, by drinking sake out of the wooden box cup, rather then a more modern saucer or cup shaped cups.
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>>153204106
>I was kinda hoping you would unleash some of your own knowledge here.
I'll share some knowledge that anon found for us.
For an example of how real Feudal Japan was actually NOT quite as shitty (still bad though) as Usagi Yojimbo and all media in this genre make it out to be, sanctioned honor duels were fought with bokken, not live steel. So the fight to the death between Nakamura Koji and Katsuichi-sensei would have been extremely unusual, and Kitanoji Temple would definitely not have allowed it to happen on their grounds. Had UY been following actual history and not genre fiction tropes, it's highly likely that both Nakamura Koji and Katsuichi-sensei would have survived the duel and Usagi's life would be slightly less shitty than it is.
That's one example. There are dozens more where the situation was much, much worse than what was depicted, and dozens more where it actually wasn't. Like I said, there's too much ground to cover. I would eat up the entirety of the post count in this thread trying to explain it all. The mega archive has some screencaps of good informational posts anons have made over the years.
https://mega.nz/folder/Dsd31LiR#grnO0n2INCHplEWo4nOCYQ
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>>153203001
>Barely a month.
Kek
It's been like a year and a half-two years though, hasn't it? I remember that Red Scorpion takes place in the rainy season, then a fuckload of shit happens that summer and autumn, Green Dragon is set that winter, and 10k Plums is visibly early spring.
I guess at some point we need to collectively autistically chart Usagi's travels in time and space, that should be manageable at least from Nakamura Koji's introduction.
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>>153203971
After looking it up, it looks like I was full of shit in my talk about bushido bullshit getting adopted right after Meiji restoration. post here >>153203511
It was actually EVEN LATER THAN THAT! The Imperial Japanese army didn't start drinking Bushido cool aid until their pacific campaign in WW2 and it was through that 1700s book, Hagakure: Hidden by the Leaves.
"In the post-war era, the nationalist author and poet, Yukio Mishima, was inspired by Hagakure and wrote his own book in praise of the work."
t: wikipedia-dono: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagakure
I'm guessing you remembered that guy, while I was remembering the other guy.
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>Notices reddit spacing after posting
Excuse me, I must go commit seppuku now.
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after looking it up, i've found one of the guys I was looking for, Nitobe Inazo, Author of Bushido: The Soul of Japan. I guess it probably wasn't as influential in the Meiji era as I thought since it was published in 1899. I think I was mostly thinking of him and Yamamoto Tsunetomo, forward-dating the latter to the Meiji era.
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>In the post-war era, the nationalist author and poet, Yukio Mishima, was inspired by Hagakure and wrote his own book in praise of the work
What the fuck was his problem.
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Fuck! I completely forgot about this guy.
>Sets up on the roof of a building, starting to call out for a revolution against the current post-war government
>Revolution doesn't happen right that very instance he yells out his grand tantrum at TV cameras
>Commits seppuku
>refuses to elaborate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDNjK6LnW0Y
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>>153204414
>Samuraja
That would be "Border of Samu" or "Samu limit" Samu being a more simpler version of the name Samuel. Maybe "Samurailija" (Someone who does Samurai activities or is a Samurai consistantly enough to earn a tittle for it in a job or trough reputation ) or perhaps "Samurai Apu" because it is the exact same word in Finnish.
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>The Hidden Fortress
Yet another example of Stan just borrowing a title for a story which is complretely different from said borrowed story title.
Although on that note I was disapointed when I watched the Hidden Fortress that the titular hidden fortress was just a small mountain safe house that doesn't even really factor into the plot of the movie all that much. Like I hear hidden fortress and my mind immedietly goes to imagine some mountain castle tucked away in the mists filled with booby traps. Liked the movie overall though, the spear fight is absolute kino.
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I recognize that glossary!
>>153204264
real history is always somehow better, worse, and weirder than fiction.
>killing the guy in his bath
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Wait a minute, are you guys saying that apustaja means something in Finnish, rather than just being a goofy sounding name?
The shit you learn in this storytime, I swear.
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>>153204709
Yes, it's a retarded way of saying "Avustaja", which means helper/aide.
Apustaja meme originated as someone drawing a retarded pepe and writing something along the liens of "help hepler is coming to bring chikken nuggies and pudding for me, but I threw the crayons behind the radiator :)"
Source: I saw it on a now defunct Finnish website called Naurunappula somewhere around late 2000s.
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>>153204719
Oh, Stan absolutely tracks the passage of time, yeah. I can't put my finger on where/what exactly right this moment, but I know anons have talked about this previously and linked to/posted an interview question, story note, or similar where he talks about it.
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>>153205072
Hmm, in the vein of "sad tragic shit people had to do" Stan could do a story about a pregnant prostitute or extremely poor woman that has to abort by taking a super cold bath or drinking a concoction of poisonous herbs to induce!
That'd be feudal enough right?
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>No snake cults
Boy, that's a relief. I'm sure Lord Hebi would uproot any that do crop up.
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>>153205314
>yfw usagi and tomoe did actually do it after tomoe's nightmare
>she get's married to ugly bastard
>usagi shows up right after, feeling bad already
>tomoe reveals to him the truth that she got pregnant after they did it
>usagi feels bad for putting her in that spot already but wants to help and be there from the start unlike with jotaro
>tomoe reveals she aborted the child
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Well shit, I just found my old gun powder post!
Not really Feudal Japanese history, but more of an explanation as to why the Japanese were going gaga over the foreign black powder, both in Usagi and IRL Feudal Japan.
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>>153205352
a surprisingly dexterous tail wrote this post.
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extremely interesting and informative. it's easy to think of older technologies as the same thing even if they were revolutionary at the time.
>>153205072
given popular imagination, I'm surprised there wasn't a chapter on woodblock printing. they appeared roughly 50+ years after usagi's time, but there's nothing stopping stan from doing a little anachronism.
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I was looking for this image in the megaupload but I couldn't find it, so I went into desuarchives to try and figure out why. Long story short there was some miscommunication but rest assured anon your effortposting has now been added to our archives. Your research work is recognized.I retyped everything and saved it as a new image so it would be easier to read as a picture
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>>153206016
Has Stan ever talked about a potential ending? Either Usagi gets a Kenshin in SX Reflections style death or the final story ends on a 'there goes the wandering ronin Usagi off again on the never ending road' last page. Usagi is also somewhat impulsive so a last story where he finds himself in a cozy small town thinking you know what this is a good place to rest would be very kino.
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>>153206341
>the final story ends on a 'there goes the wandering ronin Usagi off again on the never ending road' last page.
That's spot on what Stan has mentioned before how he envisions ending Usagi Yojimbo. Source: post by anonymous on 4chan.
There's also that picture of Old Man Usagi as a Katsuichi-like sensei, with a young long-eared rabbit student with the picture notes of Stan explaining this was an idea he was mulling as a possible end for Usagi. I think that would be really appropriate for him as an epilogue page to the final issue.
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Should such a final story have anything special to it?
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>>153207319
If its the last it should be special, no idea what would be in it though. Depends on what angle is taken for the ending but I would like Usagi to say farewell to one of his main companions either in that story or the one just before it.
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I understand why Stan would want one of those "simple, episodic, almost not even an ending" type endings like KOTH originally got for example, and it wouldn't be the end of the world
but at the same time I would really prefer something more substantial that ties up at least SOME things.I'm just really afraid of stan passing before it's done, like what happened with miura
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>>153208228
How many overarching plots are still left in the present story (wherever that is)?
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Stan *has* talked about potential endings a number of times (the one Enmanon mentions, for example, a note to a pic in one of the artbooks). When we get to the first couple IDW volumes you'll see him planting the seeds of a different ending to the stuff he's been talking about before, however (and more in line with making Senso more or less canon).
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>>153208360
Oh no I don't think Tomoe would be cruel in the delivery. It might even make it easier on Usagi if she was because then he could just walk away knowing she hates him. She'd be kind about it which is so much worse.
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>>153208331
>How many overarching plots are still left in the present story (wherever that is)?
He said decades ago that the only planned arc he had left was The Wedding of Tomoe Ame. Who knows how much things have changed since.
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>and more in line with making Senso more or less canon
Aw fuck. Don't do it, Stan.
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My guess is he's having fun for now and will do that arc whenever he's ready to wrap up the series.
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I genuinely think that if Usagi came back to express condolences or whatever at the wedding it would actually break something in Tomoe. She bared her soul to him, the moment in the tea house was the final moment they both could have been together but she never could have asked that of him.
But after who knows how long of having her will tested and possibly broken by being handed off thoughtlessly by her lord to be the pretty young thing to some fat aged slob, forced to do the womanly duties she had no skills at before and with no escape route? If he came back and started saying stuff about what could have been after living foot loose and free for so long I would not possibly blame her for venting all her pent up anger and frustration at the one man she genuinely and openly loved but was never able to say it to.
The same tea ceremony never comes again, because even the people change.
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In the king Kull story the serpent men basically controlled the kingdom from the shadows, worse part being they could turn into anyone and ambush the king and replace him with one of their own, and anyone slay by the serpentment became a slave ghost to them.
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I think he could come back every day up to the day before the wedding. That day and onward yeah she wouldn't want to see him because in her mind she's thinking if you stayed I wouldn't be in this mess. I expect anger from Tomoe if Stan ever writes and draws their last meetings but a whole lot more BITTERsweetness.
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These niggaz ain't read Senso and it shows.
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>Jazz for Your Soul
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I have not actually! I got into Usagi via these threads though I did stumble onto Senso spoilers. Oddly if not for Tomoe and Usagi's tea ceremony together I probably would not be so invested in them lol
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The guy was a performance dude. That is to say, he very intentionally adopted a larger than life persona and played it to the hilt. I keep meaning to do some reading on the guy, cause he's kind of the last big pinnacle of that early 20th century Japanese national craziness. After his death, and the reaction to the student protests around the same time (as a cultural figure, Mishima would do negotiations with some of the student groups), Japan entered a kind of weird, murky "apolitical" era. We'll see where their current bozo goes, but for the longest time after that period, there just wasn't any big political shift in society. The dominant party just stagnated, but no one cared enough to try and push for a political shift anywhere else either.
That's my very basic, very shallow, very unlearned read on the period, and I'd like to know more about it.
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Kimono's naturally hide breast size due to how they work, and this apparently being an intended part of the look, making the woman's chest seem more flat and uniform. The Japanese are freaks, but I guess every culture has its peculiar fashions.
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An idea for a final story i’ve had would be a collection of small usagi stories kinda like the one where keiko was interviewing inn-goers
>framing is that of a couple of kids telling different stories they’ve heard of a long-eared samurai who’s willing to help anyone out and is extremely skilled with his sword
>the stories themselves come off as a bit exaggerated, as they traveled via word of mouth and details get lost or blown up to be more impressive than they are
>near the end the kids end up getting into some trouble with some samurai
>a ronin comes by to tell him to fuck off, his had obscuring his face
>sends the samurai running
>the faceless ronin is revealed to be an old usagi
Kind of the jist of it, s’pose to stay in line with stan’s idea of the ending being usagi just walking off into the sunset. Overall the idea with it is that even if usagi doesn’t accomplish some massive feat. like taking down hikiji or make the history books, he’d still be remembered by the people. Stories of him helping out even the lowliest of folks and taking down thugs get passed down and around thanks to him being one of the few good people in a jerk world. History may forget him, but his legacy lives on with the people
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>Usagi lives long enough to witness Funny Animal Keian Uprising.
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1. feudal japan's economy is so awful it drove our resident king of Hell insane. It can literally be fucked over by how much or little it rains. Month to month the value of her currency will fluctuate, and she's not an Investment Broker, for all her other vices.
2. Even in a nation with a stable economy, fencing stolen goods is a costly complicated affair even when everything goes right, and there's a lot of factors that can make it go wrong.
3. Until Chizufag's Origin Story, her heists were pretty small time, though there is a marked escalation over time.
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>Lord are they, worshiping you?
>This happens occasionally, old family baggage pay them no mind, they'll be done in a few.
>Why is that girl lying on the desk?
>Well either they're trying to get me to eat her or-
>HOLY FUCK!
>Send for a washer woman Kagemaru, ugh what a mess.
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He's clever enough not to move openly and to maintain a plausible deniability. He's as greedy as the other bad lords we've seen, but he's also patient and thinks several steps ahead, which literally none of the others seem to do.
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Good. Good, I knew I could count on you.
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I think about this story more than others since it gives a lot of insight into Usagi's character. He's not so lost in the Bushido sauce that he's willing to dedicate his life to vengeance or die for it, but if the opportunity presents itself, he's not above taking it.
People always ask why Usagi didn't settle down with Tomoe, and this story feels like the answer. Staying with the Geishus as a castle samurai means short of open war, he'd never get the opportunity to get revenge on Hikiji for killing Mifune and Dad-sagi. Wandering around still has low odds of that hapening, but it's a lot higher, and even if he can't kill Hikiji he can fuck with his plans.
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>Staying with the Geishus as a castle samurai means short of open war, he'd never get the opportunity to get revenge on Hikiji for killing Mifune and Dad-sagi
I don't think it's quite like that. As Usagi himself says here, he was simply on a pilgrimage and doesn't think highly of throwing his life away trying to whittle down Hijiki's men or the man himself. He was explicitly turning the offer to join down for most of the conversation.
What turns him here is not a lust for revenge, but a sense of shame he feels when confronted with a wide eyed youth who intrinsically believes that, obviously, a noble Samurai like Usagi will participate. This is a matter of honor, after all. He doesn't have the heart to break the illusion and let's himself get swept along.
I haven't been keeping up with the annual story time this time, but this isn't the first time he's run into this either, is it? There was another story, I recall, where Usagi was more ready to join the rabble rousers looking for vengeance. That he's not this time is another example of how his perception of what is truly honorable has shifted, and he's no longer constrained by black and white perceptions of martial duty.
That said, the fact that he was essentially shamed into it by a kid does mean he's still got a bit of that spark, but I don't think it's been an active desire of his for a long time.
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He has a plan and the Gods include you
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Why is Jei so kino?
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One of us one of us
Also wtf the sickos guy has a whole wikipedia page???