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Post hot takes and unpopular opinions about South Park here
Episode ideas and kino art are also welcome
This thread is a second continuation of the first continuation thread
First continuation thread:
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Original thread:
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For those concerned with the current direction of the show, contact Matt and Trey
Contact South Park Studios
Submit a message through the official South Park Help Center
https://viacom.helpshift.com/hc/en/79-south-park/contact-us/?han=1&hpn =1&p=web&hbhf=1
or use the Comedy Central Contact Page for general feedback and show pitches
https://southpark.cc.com/legal/z67g4e/contact-us
Mail a letter to them if you want
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Share some interesting AO3 fanfics if you have any
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This anon >>153882890 had great ideas
But first, the episode needs to start with the bus stop
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>art are also welcome
Well okay then
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CEO Cartman Idea
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Unpopular Opinion:
I'd like to see Cartman skinny for a few seasons one day
Do something to change the status quo
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He's so cute
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I've never liked Liane's personality change
For most of the show she's a promiscuous slut who spoils Cartman rotten, lets him get away with literal murder, and actively hinders attempts to make him more well-behaved
Now she stands up to him more and we're all supposed to feel sympathy for her even though him ending up the way he is is her own fault and she only ever seems to put her foot down whenever he personally screws her over, like when they had to live in the hot dog
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>tfw Stupid Spoiled Whore loliart didn't become a trend the way Raisins did
Life is so unfair...
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>Life is so unfair...
You're not the boss of me now
You're not the boss of me now
You're not the boss of me now, and you're not so big
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Gyatts
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As a Cartmanfag, him eating the skin off all the KFC chicken made me more upset than what he did to Scott Tenorman.
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Hard agree. Plus, it's part of the problem I have with modern south park where every character got turned into one of two archetypes whereas in early SP everyone was weird in their own way. Liane's personality change is a side effect of this although it's more frustrating because they're trying to course-correct a horrible mother into a misunderstood gal who's a victim of her son while never addressing that she's one of the major reasons why Cartman turned out the way he is. She'd make him strip and dance for the guys she was fucking at home
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Kenny's his bff, wtf?
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good south park fics seem to be extremely rare
like 80% of the fics on AO3 have the same description of "high school sure is complicated!" because apparently nobody wants to write about the actual characters, just aged up OOC shit where everyone is edgy and emo
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Sucks it doesn't happen often. Sometimes I think about the hooded girl in Cartman's Silly Hate Crime who was never really used after that episode. Like they're able to make the girls weirdos but they've been putting it off for no reason. That's why I love Henrietta, she was allowed to be her own thing
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She still showed up in cameos all the way up to season 12, though I guess that does not matter as much. My point is, they could've made the girls stand out from each other but they just didn't do it
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Yeah, the girls are too often just boring straight man foils for the boys. This pic shows what I'm talking about.
Boys
>Actually suggest funny unhinged shit
Girls
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Revive Pip, you cowards
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I liked the Turkey Trot episode and I’d like a sequel of it
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kyle is so fucking cute
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An episode where many people in town get abducted by aliens, including Randy Marsh. The aliens are about to give Randy an anal probe. As soon as they do, he all of a sudden wakes up and it’s only a bad dream. He had passed out after overdosing on weed. He then becomes suspicious and paranoid of many people in South Park and fears they’re aliens in disguise.
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We need Raisins to return
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I wonder if Matt and Trey are aware of its internet legacy?
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>Randyfags BTFO
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Randy is only to be accepted as a side character
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Trump winning his first election mindbroke Matt and Trey so much that they probably put ketchup on their hot dogs now because of Trump
I also wonder how much that 2016 election end result negatively affected Trey Parker and his relationship with Boogie Tillmon. They divorced in 2019, a few years after Trump won his first election. I heard they reconciled and are back together now, but still they must have went through a lot together.
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>South Park fans collaborating together to change the show
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vuHS9NI_xwY&list=RDvuHS9NI_xwY&start_rad io=1&pp=ygULbGl2ZSB0byB3aW6gBwE%3D& ra=m
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d2hRTLdvdnk&list=RDd2hRTLdvdnk&start_rad io=1&pp=ygUIdG8gZ2xvcnmgBwE%3D&ra=m
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I wanted to see an episode that showed what other games he likes
They portrayed him as a chud now who recently joined ICE
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Extended version of Live to Win:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=doFnCzUxLU8&list=RDdoFnCzUxLU8&start_rad io=1&pp=ygUUbGl2ZSB0byB3aW4gZXh0ZW5 kZWSgBwE%3D&ra=m
Extended version of To Glory:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qLxRaqhvTjU&list=RDqLxRaqhvTjU&start_rad io=1&pp=ygUZdG8gZ2xvcnkgZXh0ZW5kZWQ gdmVyc2lvbqAHAQ%3D%3D&ra=m
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I'm gonna write a letter to Matt and Trey asking for an episode about others making AI music videos using Eric Cartman's voice. Cartman himself gets annoyed by this and it motivates him to become a singer using his real voice.
COME ON MATT AND TREY, MAKE IT HAPPEN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROxgpnxvziE&list=RDROxgpnxvziE&start_r adio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPJrOfxOBhk&list=RDuPJrOfxOBhk&start_r adio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2osWwC9MQk&list=RD-2osWwC9MQk&start_r adio=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxkrrQ--xn0&list=RDIxkrrQ--xn0&start_r adio=1
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Some other motivational music for you anons:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N2l8KtdQ7Ek&list=RDN2l8KtdQ7Ek&start_rad io=1&pp=ygUhc3RyYXRvdmFyaXVzIGh1bnR pbmcgaGlnaCBhbmQgbG93oAcB&ra=m
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p5V8niow0EA&list=RDp5V8niow0EA&start_rad io=1&pp=ygUVc3RyYXRvdmFyaXVzIGluZml uaXR5oAcB&ra=m
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R-ER5---jSk&list=RDR-ER5---jSk&start_rad io=1&pp=ygUUc3RyYXRvdmFyaXVzIGRlc3R pbnmgBwE%3D&ra=m
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KINO MUSIC
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Not an unpopular opinion, but agreed. It ruined Butters
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>Creators sabotaging their own cartoon shows just to stick it to certain political groups they don't like
>Russia at war with Ukraine
>The U.S. at war with Iran
>The whole Jeffrey Epstein fiasco
>Gas prices are more expensive today than 30 years ago
>Grocery prices are more expensive today than 30 years ago
>Nearly two-thirds of young American men in the U.S. are single
I really hate this timeline
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>Creators sabotaging their own cartoon shows
When I say sabotaging, I mean they're destroying its soul
There will still be lots of viewers tuning in to watch South Park. But a lot of them will be normies.
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Not just normies, the type of people who only watch just to see their politics affirmed over and over
But South Park fans are wisening up to this
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>I want it to be millions
Billions
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I detest the idea that Cartman was never a psycho or at bare minimum a scheming narcissist. This perspective, which has managed to embed itself into how the fandom view, and subsequently winge about how the early differ from the later one. That in some vague forgone epoch he was the illustration of a "mean but wholesome chunges". Child was scheming to make a quick buck so often in season 4, it was a borderline motif of that year ( "The Tooth Fairy Tats 2000", "Quintuplets 2000" ,"Something You Can Do with Your Finger","Do the Handicapped Go to Hell?", "Probably"). This trait of his had its start as far back as "Chef Aid". He constantly acted in self interest at the expense of others, he restarted the Confederate army in "The Red Badge of Gayness", he sent Butters to get raped by Nambla in "Cartman Joins Nambla" for no real reason. Scott Tenorman was the culmination of Cartman behaviour, not the start of it.
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Ironically, this timeline should make for better South Park. Matt and Trey aren't afraid to belittle Epstein in the show or The Book of Mormon, do an episode where Cartman starts a conspiracy-tard podcast and makes up a bunch of shit about Epstein, end it with him trying to get Butters raped by famous celebrities to prove the elites are after him. The ending joke is that Cartman gets raped by Jared Leto, but that doesn't count because no one gives a shit about Jared Leto.
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>They wouldn't call out their own like that
They have done plenty of Epstein jokes before, the whole Satan Mpreg plot line ended with one big Epstein punchline
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Characters like Kyle, Wendy, Tolkien and Sharon aee funnier when they break their moralfag tendencies. This is why I liked Call Girl more than normal Wendy, why I liked Kyle in episodes like the cracy baby one, why I liked Tolkien in Raising The Bar, etc.
This is also why Sharon is consistently unfunny
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I want an episode where the boys are attending a Denver Broncos football game. Cartman is wearing New England Patriots gear while his friends are wearing Broncos gear. The Patriots are the Broncos’ rivals.
This makes sense because the season 19 episode “Stunning and Brave” showed that Cartman is a Tom Brady fan. I also headcanon that deep down Cartman resents his own local Colorado teams because it reminds him of his biological father who used to play for the Broncos. He’d be reminded of South Park as well which is the toxic environment he grew up in.
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Have Wendy and Butters go on random adventures, with Wendy wanting to recreate how she felt at the beginning of the show where she was a fifth member. Butters gets roped into it
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They have bigger butts, bro
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An episode that shows a flashback to their crazy relationship. Both became atheists because they wanted to change the world together. The relationship ends as soon as Richard Dawkins realizes Mrs. Garrison is actually a man.
I'd like a scene of Dawkins puking at a bar while drinking away his sorrows after leaving Garrison because he realized that the truth.
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South Park Studios better hire some of the anons here as writers so that idea can become an actual episode one day.
If not, I want to see an AO3 fanfic of something like that if there isn't any.
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YES
More Stan kino
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Eating dark chocolate at the party
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>Looks at picrel
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Dear Matt and Trey
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They're both adorable
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Does anyone know a good writing AI for absurd comedy or good examples to feed it for "kids taking kid problems as if they're adult problems" ?
and detective stories.
Else recommend me a good fanfic writer, but you know how those motherfuckers are busy with life and leave you hanging. So many unfinished fanfics. An AI at least responds 24/7. As long as the GPU's CUDA cores keep up.
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Well boys this has been real educational an’ all
But now let’s part with that ol’ EA sports sayin’
Get the fuck outta my buildin’
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>Back when 4chan was called 4channel instead of 4chan
That was hilarious. Did anything come out of that?
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Rofl people actually made a group server for that? Seems like the link expired tho.
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I was talking about the Red fetish arc thing
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He's a true villain
Just like this guy
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How about a meta episode where the kids are trying to have the most mundane fun doing stuff outside but the adults try to turn the whole thing into some sort of epic over the top adventure with deep lore implications and whatnot.
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>I also headcanon that deep down Cartman resents his own local Colorado teams
Here's an image of Cartman as a fan of the Los Angeles Kings. There have been clips of him as a Kings fan played on the jumbotron during their games.
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Matt and trey sure like giving kids breast implants
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I love both shows but I think SP is generally more cringe than Family Guy, especially when it gets on its high horse about something. Maybe I'm too irony poisoned but even the serious moments in FG can make me giggle while in SP I sometimes get second-hand embarrassment when they take it too seriously.
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Person who made that edit here, agreed. If they just turned the show into stupid sexualized and fetishy shit, I'd be all for it.
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Best girl
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Nice
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Reminder we were robbed of an actually good Halloween episode because Matt and Trey wanted to pull a Rick and Morty (even they outgrew meta humor)
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We could've had it all
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Not exactly a hot take, but I think the genuine worst episode of the show is actually two episodes: Pandemic and Pandemic 2.
Nobody understood the flute thing beyond Commiefornia residents, the Randy scenes dragged on too long, the guinea pigs are cute for five seconds, and the story and prophecy was just pointless.
I think they even admit in the commentary that they had a lame idea they didn't know how to end, so they ended up making it two episodes instead and it sucked.
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You haven't fucked Butters yet. That's why it sucks
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My idea for a sequel to Turkey Trot is they all race, but this time they all race in turkey costumes. Cartman has Heidi dress up as a turkey. He wants her to win the face for him.
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I say YES
Matt and Trey did her so dirty
They’ve also been avid lurkers on 4chan for years
Now they have to deal with images of her being flooded everywhere on the internet
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>I remember Matt talking in the commentary about how great it was that South Park now had these new female characters to work with.
>Gets dropped
What a stupid character, her debut had no jokes, it was just shipping fuel.
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It was still probably the best episode of that season. All the parts at the beginning were kino, the president and witches stuff was ok but yeah if they kept it more focused on the simple less politically relevant jokes then it could have been a 9 or a 10
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>Doesn't like being stuck as a background character
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Someone needs to make a South Park spinoff where other characters get the spotlight
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The fans nowadays care more about the South Park IP than its own creators do
They can contact the creators if they want, but if Matt and Trey decide for it to continue to be souless slop, then let them
Fans can create their own stories (we have AO3) and they can make their own animated projects
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HEY TREY! HEY MATT! IF YOU ARE READING THIS AND I KNOW YOU ARE
HOW ABOUT A PIRATE-THEMED SOUTH PARK EPISODE, AND NO I DON'T MEAN ONE WHERE TRUMP AND VANCE ARE PLAYING PIRATE WHILE BEING GAY IN THE HOT TUB TOGETHER
I MEAN AN ACTUAL PIRATE EPISODE
THE BOYS AND GIRLS AT SCHOOL GO ON A FIELD TRIP TO A PIRATE SHIP AND PLAY PIRATE
HOW ABOUT LISTENING TO YOUR OWN FANS FOR ONCE AND NOT THE HIGHER UPS
STOP OVERPUNISHING CARTMAN JUST TO APPEAL TO REDDITORS
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We're getting some response in the /v/ thread and even had some in the /b/ thread
Let's keep raising awareness with the rest of the internet world about this movement
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>Alternate Timeline of the Basic Cable episode
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>Mock muslims for using violence to get what they want
>defend blacks for using violence to get what they want
Why did Matt and Trey defend BLM while mocking islam for doing the same thing?
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>Cartman tells Scott how women are great and isn't redpilled
I can see it.
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I admire what you're going for, but this is way too crowded. There should just be a bus stop with Butters, Wendy and Heidi, with the two of them having tamed his incel rage
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>Scene from the "My Teenager Hates Me" episode but the timeline is altered
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>End of Obesity Alternate Timeline
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>End of Obesity Alternate Timeline except skinny Eric Cartman is real and it's not a dream
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They're more likely to do >>153946472 and you know it
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Oh, right.
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Yeah, they apologized for the fat jokes at one point
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To think if Matt and Trey didn't get TDS, we could've had this
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Yeah we could've had scenes like skinny Cartman and Heidi teepeeing teachers' houses and then them hanging out with Stan and Wendy at the Broncos' football games.
Instead we get Trump and Vance going anal in bed.
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From Kyle
>I was wrong. I used to think fat people just needed more willpower. But now I see what it's like to have willpower not be enough. We got sugar companies, pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies all just trying to figure out how to make money off of our fucking health. How can anyone have willpower when all these forces are manipulating us every day? It's impossible. And I've learned one very important thing. It isn't fair to put the blame on anyone for their weight.
>What do you say, guys? Let's all agree as a school---no, as a society, that we won't make fun of obesity anymore!
>I said we're not going to be critical of anyone for their weight ever again!
Though Kyle calls Clyde a fatass in Season 27.
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Scott: You gotta help me bro. I need help with my baby girl Sophie.
Eric: You want my advice? Make her feel special Scott. Make her feel like she's the most important person in the world. Also, women are smart and funny. Get over yourself.
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K-kino
Heiman could've reset Cartman to just being a brat and not a full-on psycho.
Also, maybe Butters tells Scott later he used to think women are snakes in the grass, but Heidi made him see the light
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>having to snuggle with fatass Heidi under the same dirty blanket
>smelling her unwashed vagina, the one that looked like a petite flower just a year ago when she flashed it for you
>hearing the water bears fiddle inside her stomach, the sound makes it almost seem like she's being eaten alive
>she farts, and it reeks even more putrid, the scent of rotten eggs fill your nose
>you struggle to move away, but her shrill voice bellows right in your direction, her breath having a cheesy flavor to it
>"SNUGGLE"
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>Cartman and Wendy had good chemistry and she should have been his main foil instead of Kyle. Alternatively, they should have become an item after Wendy broke up with Stan the first time briefly like she dated Token (fuck the name change, not a hot take) and bounced off other boys, including Kyle, Kenny and Butters before going back to him
>Scott Tenorman Must Die was my favorite episode as a kid and I sided with Cartman the entire time, bullies overall need some comeuppance and being a cartoon means it was going to be exaggerated to an extent
>Chef needed a replacement, he was legitimately the moral voice of the cast and losing that led to the show's downfall
>Creek was a mistake
>Any 'fans' who came into the show after...2016 are the leading factor in why the show got so sanitized. I think they used the word faggot once in a few years when it was the go-to insult for everyone and everything. Lame and Gay is...lame and gay
>Season 6 was the best season overall
>Cartman becoming homeless was a mistake, and it looks like they're trying to reverse that slowly with defanging him. At worst, he should be in a bad relationship with an equally fat bitch (not Heidi) and fat kids
>Stan turning ten should have been the springboard to moving the kids to fifth grade, and gradually going into middle school with new designs to accentuate said growth. New dynamics should have been created too (Cartman and Kyle becoming closer and actual buddies which could organically move to him being less of an asshole if they were gonna soften him up anyway, Kenny becoming more of a character, Stan falling down the ranks and becoming an extra, etc.)
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Agreed, Cartman and Wendy are a decent couple
No one sided with Scott
I agree. Another Chef-like character would hell
Creek was not a mistake. Its fans are kinda annoying, though
I agree. Cartman is especially sanitized. I wanna hear more slurs, dammit!
Season 6 kicks ass
The homeless thing is stealth retconned. Tegridy being sold prevents that from happening.
Aging the kids up also makes episode where they're basically adults make more sense.
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>>153988637
Many anons want to contact Matt and Trey because they are concerned about the direction the show is heading towards. They are also giving episode ideas in this thread so Matt, Trey, and their staff can see them since they've lurked a lot before. Anons on here have also given hot takes and unpopular opinions. We've also been posting kino art in the process so Matt and Trey can understand that we love a lot of ideas their IP represents for us.
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This
Lu Kim being an actual Chinese man is way funnier because the different Asian ethnic groups despise each other
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I always disliked these types of retcons. Token name literally being Token Black was funny. One I particularly don't like is Cartman's mom being a hermaphrodite, OG ep was a funny twist on a trope and the cover-up was arguably lamer. + Cartman's Mom Is a Dirty Slut >>>>> 200/201
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Hey Trey and Matt.
In any future storylines you do, please make adult Eric Cartman look like a Chad again. I prefer his My Future Self 'n' Me Design over that weird-looking one you gave him in post-covid where he looks like a turtle with nostrils.
>Inb4 how does Cartman grow up to be like this exactly
Okay, here's the plan. Right now, Clyde's dad Roger Donovan is currently married to a woman named Janice. Cartman needs to devise a plan to get Roger and Janice divorced. Then Cartman needs to find a way to get Roger together with Liane. Give Cartman a dad. It's finally time he got that. He will not only have a stepdad, but also a stepbrother who is Clyde. Have Roger discipline him and make him a better person. Cartman shall also stay away from the toxic environment that is South Park in order to become a better person because it brings out the worst in him. That's how he will become a successful CEO of his own time travel company.
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Have Roger Donovan whip him into shape. It doesn't mean he will necessarily be abusive like Butters' dad. Just have Roger give him a little kick in the ass now and then. I also wouldn't mind skinny Cartman for a few seasons. I like that. Change the status quo.
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Does the show still do this gag where they would have the characters actually be in the recording studio or be in the middle of performing a song? I know they do this multiple times but from the top of my head I can remember it in Make it Right and Somalian Pirates We when it cuts in the middle of the song to have Cartman tell the other pirates to enunciate better.
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Cartman does it so he can get all the attention for being a skinny "cool guy", and show pretend pity for all the fatties who can't be like him while he throws Cheesy Poofs at them to mock them and watch them scramble.
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Hot take? South Park fell off and has outstayed its welcome, now it relies on lowest common denominator Trump jabs to appease the unwashed masses who like to think this is still equal opportunity offender libertarianism at work
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Because they aren't interested in comedic purity anymore they've gradually been subsumed by the leftist mob and attacking blacks isn't deemed safe any longer, they've become the pussies they used to ridicule it's legitimately sad
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This is far from a hot take. See >>153993862
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>>153993736
NTA but I think they meant everyone ends up getting fatter than Cartman so he ends up being the skinniest (doesn't even have to mean he's skinny, just the skinniest of the fatsos) and he takes it as an opportunity to make fun of them since he's not on the receiving end of the bullying for oncethen it becomes the norm and Cartman gets bullied for being skinny
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memories of that "Kyle Dies" fic where Kyle died of a diabetic heart murmur, Cartman harvested his organs to get his kidney back, but Kenny saved the day by bringing Kyle back and giving him immortality too. Wonder how the author would feel about the Mysterion twist (they were a bellend who transed into a wannabe furry novelist tho).
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We need this to happen now
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>>153934771
Episode idea
Mr. Garrison and Mr. Mackey start a YouTube career reviewing food together. While doing this, they make clickbait thumbnails in order to gain attention.
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>>153996309
I get what you’re saying. But I feel cheated as a viewer after watching how the last few episodes of season 20 and the whole season 21 played out. The writing was atrocious. One of the most atrocious things I have ever seen as a viewer. I also feel cheated as a viewer watching the post-covid ending.
I would propose this.
South Park Studios should basically get the fans to write the show for at least a few more seasons and then retire the IP for good and have South Park end on a good note. Then South Park can live on through fanart, fanfics, and fanmade animation projects.
>Inb4 the creative staff of South Park studios won’t ever listen
We need to at least let them know how we feel about the direction of the show. We do that by sending them tons of feedback and tons of letters. I advise that we be respectful.
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The staff knows about fandom stuff. Wouldn't put it past them to do this.
Also, anyone but Randy is a plus
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Cute!
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Better than most of last season
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