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>>11435833
All I want for Christmas is masculine men being dommed, sick of sissy/femboy threads

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You gotta post 5 images to start a thread btw

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>>11436494

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>>11436270
Oh shit I know & I tried, but I thought the thread wasn't made because I got some sort of error message when I posted.

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For the longest time I assumed that the reason my western drawn folder for general femdom was so much larger than my Hentai folder was due to genuine preference, but I've only recently realized that it's really due to the lack of normal threads here.

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Like it's genuinely so surprising that for what I'd imagine is something that'd be a fairly common fetish, it's so hard to find direct threads here where it's posted reliably.

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Like I guess it probably has to do with people with a femdom fetish here often having other fetishes that fill a similar role & so they don't post "normal" femdom as much.
I mean I'm the same way, like I mentioned in the original post, but it still sucks how often you can't find more "vanilla" femdom here.

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Anyway, enough ranting for now.
I'll finish out with some male hypno since like I mentioned it's allowed here due to not often having a dedicated thread & being relatively rare otherwise.

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>>11436886
>>11436889
femdom is a genre that gets kicked between /d/ and /h/, so it's often that neither board has a thread for a long time

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what about femdom thats subtle? i like this artist's work but he can get pretty....explicit but i like this pic for how subtle the femdom is, the men are collared and made to pleasure the women until they're done

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financial femdom/male prostitution?

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Orc no Ohime-sama wa Ranshi ga Tsuyosugiru

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Kodukuri Gimu Jorei ga Seitei saremasita

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Bros, what happened to doskoinpo?

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>>11435833
Eightgin has these two beautiful pieces, but sadly nothing more:

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>>11440195

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>>11436886
I'm in FWB relation with a girl who introduced me to spitting fetish like pic related. I love when I'm kneeling and she tells me to open my mouth. She's smoking a lot and her saliva tastes really bad after smoking but she calls me a good boy afterwards. This makes me rock hard and sometimes she tells me to lick her cigarettes ash but I hope we will go for full human ashtray experience once.

The reason you don't see more of these threads is because there's an obsessed autist that shits up every single one with hardcore CBT/BDSM/outright torture porn and tells everyone they're pussies if they "can't handle it", even if the OP expressly forbids it. He's been at it so long and so freely without consequence I'm convinced he's a janny.

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>>11440349

>>11440848
This is how SSJ3 was achieved.

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>>11435833
do we live in a world where pegging is now considered normal and vanilla

>>11441122
Almost

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there are so many characters that don't have enough femdom art
like why isn't there a picture of Ami from Toradora with a strapon

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>65 images
>not a single makima

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>>11442789
last one

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>>11442780
I have not watched her anime

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>>11442829
I liked the manga despite not being into shonen, but it might have been because of her

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>>11441914
Make the change you want to see
>>11442780
Her wanting to be a "sub" ruined her character for me

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>>11443296
when did that happen?

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>>11443454
Pochita said that Makima always wanted someone who was her equal. Her being the control devil makes it nearly impossible for her to find someone with whom she can have a real connection, since she sees almost everyone as "dogs". She doesn't like that, she is not a real domme

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>>11443475
she wanted someone equal, not someone to sub to.
I wonder if she would be friends with griffith, he said the same thing.

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>>11442780
I never read it cause I got spoiled with how she ends up and decided I don't need that in my life after all

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>>11443623
don't let sad endings ruin all the good parts before it!
I don't really care for the canon story of characters I like, everything we fap to is not canon anyway, the canon just gives it a bit of extra context

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>>11443661
Nah, I'm really sensitive to seeing women get hurt so I'd rather just avoid it entirely.

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>>11444022
>I'm really sensitive to seeing women get hurt
cute

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I have switched to futa x male content simply bc there is a lot more femdom dynamic arts than with male x female. Artists that focus on femdom, that i follow on twitter, i can count on my hands while those that drew futa have whole tab. Dunno why but it is what it is. One thing surprisingly fujo authors make heavenly femdom content but is usually one-time thing and they never go back to it (sweet suffering for example).

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>>11444205
I want to believe fujoshis are largely closeted doms coping. Not like submissive men are the norm, I could totally see a woman with such tendencies keep it on the down low and find something else to sate her appetite for men bottoming.

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>>11444205
What femdom artists do you follow? I can't think of many that focus on just femdom without inserting something I don't like

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>>11444363
GIWTWM

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>>11444733
nice I was not expecting this
now her outfit is finally the way it should have been in the first place

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why is pegging so hot and why am I cursed to like it

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>>11445751
we might be fucked in the head

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>>11445793
At least it's the only degenerate thing I like

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>>11445751

>>11445751
Because its an incredible experience. I thought after my first experience I'd think "okay that was fun but I dont really need more" and instead its been stuck in my mind and I want to go again

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>>11445751
giving a woman the power of having a dick is hot, and being her bottom bitch is even hotter.

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>>11445751
it could be worse, at least you don't like reverse ryona and abuse

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>>11445824
I can't say the same.. but I can say its one of the most degenerates at least

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favorite nickname for a domme?

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>>11446837
Goddess

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>>11447880
I like mistress

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I have a specific fantasy, but I can't find anything like it, and I want to try my luck with asking you anons if you know ANY hentai/manga/doujin/whatever with this concept:
A shapeshifter ghost/demon/succubus/etc. disguising as the male's mother and teasing him. The male knows that it's not actually his mother, but looks exactly like her. The part that makes it hot for me is that it's "technically" not your mother, but looks the same. I would really appreciate if anyone could share something like this.

https://chyoa.com/chapter/You-are-shocked-you-can%E2%80%99t-move.1115345

>>11445793
No we're definitely fucked in the ass

>>11448179
It's hot when the strap-on is not just thicker than his cock but also thicker than his ballsack

Absolutely mogged

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>>11451527
thats already implicit

>>11451789
It should be explicit

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>>11452390
well then...

has anyone here seen a dominatrix irl? I'm really curious but kind of scared

>>11439885
What do you mean? Him not creating any doujins for a while?

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>>11452494
I've been to a few. Depending on what you're expecting, I recommend trying it.

you guys have some smut you want to share around femdom/role reversal? same rules as OP, but I don't mind most things as long as there is no cheating or cuckshit

>>11452617
I was writing a vn femdom vn once but stopped when I realized how much work it would be to illustrate everything and how most people would not care.

>>11452617
>cuckshit
Does lesbian cuckoldry count as cuckshit in a femdom context?

>>11452617
>>11452716
With lesbian cuckoldry I mean something like having two female dommes and they kiss, maybe even make out with each other during the femdom session.

>>11452613
How did it go

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>>11452716
The only kind of "cuck" content I find acceptable is the very rarely depicted scenario when a vanilla girl gets her man stolen by a femdom who shows him the pleasures of being dominated and pegged.

>>11452909
Last time didn't go so well, but in general I love it.

>>11453049
What happened

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>>11453419
I hoping to get pegged but she didn't have a strapon. It did end up being the hottest facesitting I ever had though.

>>11453433
How do you not realize she doesn't have a strap-on LMAO

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>>11453433
a dominatrix outfit is not complete without a strap on

>>11453480
She forgot to take it off her website

>>11453495
Skill issue

Femdom (or D/s overall) is becoming less appealing to me slowly because I think there's some quality of humanity you're losing at least from the perspective of a sub, and I simply can't reconcile the image of some mutey "slave" with a leather hood on with the idea that he might have once had two loving parents that watched him grow up, took him to cheap burger joints, took him to play soccer with abunch of other kids and just overall being a typical loud hapy competitive youth.

It's like a sort of carefree innocence crucial to being human that I simply don't see in a lot of "subs" they all seem a bit reserved, lacking, or at a loss when it comes to having normal conversations when they're in the "femdom" headspace, at least in the more extreme iterations of a D/s relationship; it's like someone who normalized their depression because they can no longer feel happiness normally and their relationships are now these sad power exchange formats.

This carefree quality also seems like it's own sort of mark of dominance, if you don't have it it's because you're less-than. Why would it ever be good to sacrifice this part of your personality or not pursue it? Because whether you have it or not seems way too tragic and critical of a difference it makes in your life to then decide to give it away for the sake of a sexual fetish. If you're an anxious slave that responds to everything she says with "yes Mistress" hoping you get whipped or something is that really that far off from a christian waiting for the next life in heaven both people live in fear and trepidation of pleasing their god(dess).

Rant aside I've found zero good literature on psychological or anthropological explanations for what I'm saying it's kind of annoying to not understand it people's natures couldn't change quickly enough to have real answers on living in the present day.

>>11453600
>but it's ok when its women who want to get beaten and raped

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>>11455121
Nah I don't think they were saying that. Been meaning to reply to that for a few days now, I am a maledom just one who would prefer to be worshipped in the ways a lot of femdom images depict and they are hitting on a pretty major thing in what I can best describe as "submissive psychiatry".

Basically, I don't know how many people put on the mask of being happy when they are suffering immensely inside, but for a lot of people into this extreme form of relationship grovelling down in the dirt is the thing they have to put the mask on to pretend isn't actually happiness. This form of misery is far preferable to the human form of misery in the real world.

You would absolutely be correct to say its nothing healthy, and people are just taking advantage of them, but honestly? Despite my best efforts to get into their head I cannot come up with a working theory as to why they ended up that way, only that it's better that they cope with being miserable by being a slave rather than attempting to be a person. Deep inside something in them has gone wrong, and its best that they live underneath someone who is onboard with fulfilling what is now a weird deep need inside of them. Most people like this feel immense shame, which is hard to square away with how they probably should, but I also deeply love the kind of person that has this personality type and want them to heal in a way that is realistic, and being free isn't healing for them.

They are onto something with the religious angle too. Except its less being rewarded with a pleasant life after this ones suffering, more that Jessi of Nazareth lives in your house and you worship her as your Goddess. I still think there's a through line between wanting to worship a Goddess that can offload responsibility for your self doubt to just turning a real human being into who you worship instead.

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>>11455166
I'm neither of those Anons but I wanna throw in my two cents too.
As for where these proclivities come from, I can't say with certainty. Probably there's no one single source, could be anything from low self-esteem to childhood abuse. The particularly humiliating and depersonalizing stuff never appealed to me to begin with so whatever I say would be shooting in the dark.
I will say however, coping by embracing it to me sounds like a recipe for disaster. Nothing here is actually being healed, only swept under the rug and ignored. If the relationship should end for one reason or another the end state of the sub would be worse than the starting one as their coping mechanism is gone and all the negativity can pour back in at once.
At the great risk of derailing the convo into a religious debate, you gotta look to the Big Guy Upstairs for help with this. The idea of idolatry isn't limited to believing in a different god, it can be anything. Including people. You say well that freedom isn't healing for some subs, and faith offers a far firmer foundation upon which to build themselves up as people. Your domme can leave you, but God will always be there.
I also feel that the "dominant women don't exist" crowd has some overlap here. They look for a woman to be their rock and few are willing (or perhaps even capable) to carry a man in such a way. That much is simple biology, men are the stronger sex and have always been protectors. If a man fails at that the lizard part of a woman's brain starts raising red flags. Whatever your preference in bed, at the end of the day you still gotta be the man.

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>>11455380
>recipe for disaster
This is the primary thing I can't explain. slaves are just like 40 mental illnesses stacked ontop of eachother, the interactions Ive had with them are just not in any way what I thought it would be, but it still feels like the right thing to do even if I cannot in any way run through the logic of how it works.

I also do think that slaves are extremely at risk of suicide should they ever break up with who owns them for any reason, and that's a lot to put on someone, even if I think its unavoidable in this kind of relationship.

>dominant women don't exist
>simple biology
I do tend to reject that stuff out of hand but then I am a maledom talking about how I enjoy being worshipped like a femdom often is. There's not a lot of them around. The idea of religion being a better substitute for what they need is one that I can reason through but I am not exactly religious, I know people who are feel some spiritual connection that makes it feel a lot more real but I just don't. Deep inside these things minds is the need to say "i am completely awful garbage that can't do anything right, but there's a Goddess that forgives me, and i can be useful to Her.". Replacing that void in your soul with religion would certainly work better, I just can't trace how you make God feel even 20% as real as kneeling before a person is.

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>>11453600
i think there's a pretty strong selection bias here. subs who get involved in "kink" events are transgressing a social boundary, and while there might be a variety of reasons to do that you're by default getting people who don't obey social norms at a higher than usual rate. take into account that the reported success rate for finding a domme this way is pretty low and you've got a filter that naturally selects for desperate weirdos. i mean that in the nicest possible way.
it's a little unfair of me because i'm one of the lucky ones who found a dominant girlfriend without doing any of that. but i did it twice so i think i deserve at least a hearing. it's not exactly sexy to talk about but you just can't be a hopeless loser like what >>11455380 seems to think being a sub is. wanting to get fucked in the ass, even wanting to be physically weak enough to be pushed around by a woman, is not an excuse for being unhealthy or shiftless or emotionally unstable.
and contrary to what >>11455121 seems to think the *women* who inhabit the female sub community seem to understand this a little better, although i'm only looking in through the internet. probably because being part of that milieu isn't transgressive. as much as we fetishize "transgression" in some parts of modern society there are reasons that we have social norms and self-reliance is just as much a product of a democratic and individualist society as it is a "gender role". it isn't going away.
it's bad enough to let your sexuality define you as a person, but it's probably extra bad if you're a submissive. unfortunately because ~99% of the men in here are "closeted" there's an unfortunate tendency to create a "double life" and you have to always be reconciling these and not imagine that you can have one without the other.
it's not being dominated sexually that makes you lose your humanity. it's being at war with yourself for real. sex ends.

>>11455820
Vanilla femdom by default is all a fetish and not real life. You're all make believe and pretending, you're not actually getting dominated involuntarily.

Hardcore femdom like penectomy, castration and whipping are actually real life because they occur due to marital disputes (a girlfriend or wife cutting off her boyfriend or husband's penis for cheating) or in war (female fighters torturing and castration enemy men). All these are non-consensual and the women mean it for real.

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>>11455534
>I do tend to reject that stuff out of hand
Same, but it's a sentiment I've seen far more often than I'd like. Feels like a lot of guys expect women to be dominant in the same ways men are, then end up disappointed and bitter upon realizing that's rarely, if ever, the case. Kinda makes me think a lot of closeted gays use this fetish as a cope... Nah, couldn't be.
>make God feel even 20% as real as kneeling before a person
Participation. Go to church, read your Bible, give the homeless guy on the street a few bucks, things will start to click. I'll also add, on a more psychological side, it's far more useful to have an invisible ideal to strive towards. Everything worldly has an end, you can reach a point where you're content or bored with anything tangible. You can become a excellent artist and decide there's no more improvements to be done, you can become swole enough and only maintain it, you can even get bored of RPing a slave. Conversely, drawing closer to God is a lifelong journey.

>>11455820
>you just can't be a hopeless loser like what >>(Me) seems to think being a sub is
>is not an excuse for being unhealthy or shiftless or emotionally unstable
Oh you misunderstood, that was my point too. Feel like that conversation is directed specifically at the extreme portions of the kink, people who'd want to be a 24/7 slave for example. If the rest of ones life is worth giving up for endless gooning then changes need to be made ASAP. I definitely get the sense a lot of subby men think this way, "if I find a dommy mommy I don't need to better myself she'll take care of me", which is extremely unhealthy (not to mention unattractive).

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>>11435833
Wish there was more wrestling femdom

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>>11457505
Same, its just so erotic. Pic unrelated

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>>11457507
A fellow man of culture

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>>11457775
The world needs more Esdeath femdom and pegging
Also I think I'm sensing a pattern with these blue haired girls

>>11457866
we're gonna need more than 2 examples to call it a pattern

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>>11457973
>>11444205
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>>11458293
>stepping on his balls
hot...

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You know who else needs more femdom/pegging art
Satsuki
Seriously she was made for it

>>11455892
>dominant in the same ways men are
the most important factor in how men are dominant is that they act out a social expectation in doing so. women in these relationships know what to expect, kind of, and this applies basically regardless of how strict or loose your definition of "dominant" is. the reason this exists is because it is tied to a greater social order that is not purely sexual. i mean there's also the physical strength thing but that's a little too obvious. anyone seriously expecting a woman to be dramatically stronger than him without being dangerously underweight or getting polio is insane. but when she has a tactical advantage she can fuck me. that's all that matters.
so one funny complaint that dommes have, supposedly, since 90% of these discussions are always hearsay, anyway the big domme complaint is that male subs want to be dominated in "specific" ways. but i think for some people they just can't handle the situation not being within a social norm. there is no preexisting framework in modern society within which femdom occurs, except incidentally as a result of adversarial or manipulative situations. so their minds make one up, reject the Kierkegaardian dizziness of reality and flee to comfort in the clear lines of delusion. and they develop a very silly attitude like >>11455851 about what femdom is supposed to be like.
but it isn't supposed to be anything. it isn't supposed to exist at all; it doesn't fill out social roles within Western (or most other) norms. you can't just pull a tradition out of your ass, and preindustrial ideologies are basically inaccessible.
it's unreasonably difficult to do something just because you want to and not because you're supposed to.

>>11458403
also, probably the most common way that femdom enters the mass media is through the lens of parody. i would expect this accounts for the preponderance of humiliation as a theme in femdom pornography, even though frankly it's kinda boring and doesn't actually physically stimulate anyone. the easiest way to imitate femdom as a joke on tv is to make a joke of yourself. but for a consensual non-economic sex act the whole shame angle loses its credibility because you both want to be here after all. so it kind of misleads people i think

>>11458381
who should she peg?

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>>11458403
>they act out a social expectation in doing so
To a degree yes, but I think biology plays a pretty heavy role here too. I can't speak too much in detail since it's ultimately just my observations, but I've been present in enough femdom spaces to get a few ideas. It's very common that self-proclaimed submissive men don't actually have submissive instincts, they just refuse to give up control. Which leads well into the next point.
>male subs want to be dominated in "specific" ways
I believe this 100%. The term is topping from the bottom, even if you're playing a submissive role it's still orchestrated and controlled by you. I've argued this with plenty of guys that either can't understand it or don't care, they need to be dominated in the exact way they want and nothing else. So even men who want to pursue a femdom relationship and break social norms still have severe blocks from going all in, which I'm inclined to say is biological.
>it isn't supposed to exist at all
If you take a purely utilitarian view of the world, maybe. But people aren't pure utilitarians despite our tendency to think in those terms often. Sometimes you just need to enjoy yourself, there's fast days and there's feast days for a reason.
>>11458408
True, and worse still with modern media when they try to play a dominant woman straight it has to be while also tearing men down, which only serves to further grievances between the sexes. Ever read the Wheel of Time series? It's been a long time since I revisited them, but I distinctly remember many of the women there are very well-written and femdommy.

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the smart lady finds out what the guy's fetish is and uses that to give him a boner.
once he's hard she can claim anything she does to him is consensual

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>It's very common that self-proclaimed submissive men don't actually have submissive instincts, they just refuse to give up control.

As a sub guy... I'd have no problem letting a lady have her way with me, provided that, pre-session, even before anything goes down, she's able to satisfy some requirements. First, I need to be comfortable and at ease with her personality. I need to know who she is as a person, what's her M.O. and how far does she like to push things. Does she respect rules? Has there been any reputation of rule/limit breaking with her? And I'd like her to specifically open up to me honestly, and give me a list of her own hopes and wishes in advance, so that I could evaluate what she wants from me and possibly negotiate, or even refuse things that I'd deem much too nasty or dangerous to perform. I'm not trying to be a dick about this, but I'm not invincible. I have my limits, and my soft, fleshy tissues can break in many nasty ways, so I need to hear from her what it is that she's prepared to do to mitigate these risks to ensure my safety. If I let her do her thing, unrestricted, what will she do to ensure that afterwards I'm gonna be able to walk away from it with my own two legs. Show me that you can communicate.

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>>11458403
>the big domme complaint is that male subs want to be dominated in "specific" ways.

Well, what the fuck am I supposed to do with the fact that certain triggers and stimuli excite me more than some other, unrelated shit? This is the mechanism how fetishes work. The object of your desire needs to be present for there to be sexual satisfaction. Sure, I love seeing the giddy excitement on her face, when a domme can just go to town with me and have her way with me, treating me as if I were a piece of meat. If I personally like a particular girl and know that she likes this and can be trusted not to permanently wreck me with the carte blanche I've given her, sure, we can do a session where I just let her do her thing and enjoy herself, expecting nothing in return for myself (no cum/orgasms, or none of MY fantasies played out that time). But a relationship like this needs to be built up over time, and for me, the girl needs to be worth it. She has to be someone special for me to just completely ignore my own fantasies and needs for her pleasure. And I can't do this long term. For long term to work, I need to get something out of it as well. What good is a sex life where you can't do you, at all? Like it or not, healthy sexuality between two adults IS trading favors back and forth, one way or another. There is no other way.

>>11458980
> I've argued this with plenty of guys that either can't understand it or don't care, they need to be dominated in the exact way they want and nothing else.

Is this not true of women as well?
Most women are generally submissive, not strictly submissive. They enjoy being a object of their partner's sexual tension or "servicing" their partner by fulfilling their desires, but there always has to be some level of mutual respect and maintenance of boundaries. I don't think the average woman enjoys being degraded or forced to do gross, uncomfortable, or painful things. They might have interest in doing some risqué things like being choked or being held down and force-fucked, but that doesn't really extend to shit like getting slapped across the face or surprise deepthroated. Even if their fantasies and desires very much lean in the direction of being dominated, there is always the expectation that the man is considerate and operates within the bounds of her wishes.

Bottoming from the top is a thing, but I think you're over-generalizing the term. There's a difference between person in the active position doing things that they know their partner likes and the passive party getting the active party to do something they otherwise wouldn't do.

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>>11459479
Having some boundries is all well and good but that's not really what I'm getting at. It's more a matter of mentality with how to approach the relationship. As a sub the onus is on you to be the more flexible one and to subordinate your desires and wishes to hers. Hypothetically lets say you're not really into pegging, but it's not off the table either. Conversely the domme is really into it, one of her top kinks. If you'd do it more often than you'd like for her sake then the type I'm describing doesn't apply to you. The rest, whether she respects boundries and whether you trust her, that's all kinda given in a relationship, no? Doubly so for one with more extreme power dynamics like these.

>>11459521
Same thing I said to the other anon, I kinda assumed the general relationship aspects were already given. I'm not saying there shouldn't be reciprocity nor that it's not really femdom if the guy wants it. My only point is that a lotta guys who call themselves subs don't approach the kink as they should. For example a somewhat common thing I see is dudes that are considering paying a pro domme a visit ask others if they have any experience with them, then end up shocked when they hear they can't just tell the domme to tie them down and sit on their face - they actually have to go with what the woman wants. That's the kinda mentality I mean by topping from the bottom, while as you put it, person in the active position doing things that they know their partner likes, that's perfectly fine. The sub doesn't have to be uncomfortable all the time, even better for them if they find a dom that has the exact same tastes as themselves. But that's not something one should expect, rather they should be willing to sometimes do things that aren't quite up their alley to get their dom off. And a good dom will of course reward that behavior.

>>11458481
Me

>>11459583
Source?

>>11452576
Yeah, there's nothing new on hentai sites. Maybe he just retired

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>>11460421
It's in the file name.

Kangoku Hime / Kangoku Joou from Herencia, the same studio from first post of the thread.
They've got some of my favorite art and scenarios, but sadly, the studio's been dead for a few years.

"S Kano" from Pin Heal (pic related) is the only real spiritual successor to their work. It's the same scenario writer, but he seems to have mostly defaulted to more normie stuff since then.

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I live for elder sister femdom https://hitomi.la/doujinshi/yuutousei-no-nee-san-to-honki-no-sex-de-kyoudai-kankei-o-owaraseru-hanashi-english-3088519.html

>>11460871
I've always liked fighting ring/arena fantasies where the victor gets to top the loser in sex after. The thought of being defeated by a woman in combat publicly, then she has her way with you in front of everyone, is very hot.

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>>11460423
I think he still does these these weird voice stories. I don't understand japanese that's why I don't listen to them. I wonder when some new doujin from Enkaboots comes out. He made a femdom story with males being forced to clean a toilet that came out in a femdom magazine, it also showed a reporter in the story but I can't find the whole doujin online only sketches.

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>>11460423
>>11462760
here are sketches of it

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>>11460423
>>11462761
He also made something with a livestock truck also published in another femdom magzine but also mostly sketches online:
https://kemono.cr/fanbox/user/344556/post/1922938
It seems to be an implied gynarchy but I'm not sure about that.
I find hagakure kurage to be a great alternative to doskoinpo. He also hase very similar ideas, also often the theme of tall girls with small boys.

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>>11462765
I couldn't find an english translation for this page.

>>11462767
Good. don't.

>>11459584
>For example a somewhat common thing I see is dudes that are considering paying a pro domme a visit ask others if they have any experience with them, then end up shocked when they hear they can't just tell the domme to tie them down and sit on their face
It's not clear if this attitude is general or if it occurs because of the economic aspect. A professional domme is inured to the transactional aspect by extinction. She has been through the money many times. A customer for the first time, probably the first few times, sees himself as a customer first and a partner second. This creates an imbalance in expectations.
Ultimately you can't reliably provide satisfying sexual experiences through the market. So while I might agree that there is a problem I have a small-violin attitude towards anyone taking money for sex and being surprised their partners are selfish. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
I'm also not convinced that the majority of custies are actually "subs" in the conventional sense of men who strongly prefer being submissive exclusively. A pro domme experience would be just as interesting to a switch who has only a moderate interest in being submissive, someone who just wants to try it once. Because almost all within-gender trait distributions are bimodal we should expect that switch men greatly outnumber sub men and may be a large fraction of the customers of the professional (extractive) dommes. These men don't seem like subs because they aren't, plain and simple.
Most subs seem to prefer wallowing in their misery alone, certainly at least in these threads. And to >>11459484 there is no way for the Internet to tell you if you're too picky because we haven't met you.

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>>11458481
her male subordinate, I guess
not the comically huge one, the other one

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>>11443525
Griffith wanted Guts to pound him in the ass, it's not the same thing at all.

>>11458481
her sister obviously

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all of the high school dxd girls were built for femdom

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Anyone aware of any good games?

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>>11466576
/d/ has a catalog but it is old and busted no one updates it. a lot of trashy shilled garbage by bad devs who post there.
comb through f95
hemdomblog's discord has a curated catalog of femdom games: discwrd.gg/fhcommunity

some of my most enjoyed games are the following
>virtual succubus
>under the witch
>drain mansion
>succubus affection (old)
>succubus farm
>runaway ninja mischievous arts of the kunoichi
>dominatrix simulator (pretty MID)

if you like girlcock in particular
>tales of androgyny
>CoC
>futa fucks femboy


once you play the good ones, it becomes difficult to find more. look up the game studios and check their next releases also.

>Girlfriend tries femdom
>Wants to be called Master and not Mistress
I'll take what I can get ig

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>>11466576
Boko's work, though 'game' is a bit of a stretch, mostly just a series of boss fights. Tower of Trample is similar, though it's heavy on smells, which I personally don't care for.