>>2964244
i steal all consumables from hotel rooms.
i'm not even poor anymore but i still do it.

i haven't bought toilet paper or bars of soap in 6 years.

>>2964256
I carry a dawn bottle into public bathrooms and fill them with handsoap I use for body wash.

When I work nightshift I stop at the gas station between my house and work like 20 minutes before they close and the chick gives me all the stuff in the hot bar she's just gonna toss. Usually there's so much I share it with a co-worker.

I keep McDonald's and Burger King cups in my car to get free refills. I used to keep a Subway cup but the pajeet that owns the one inside wal-mart had a fit the last time I did it

>>2964283
I solely do woodfire grilling because I can just pick up hardwood sticks in my yard.

I almost never run my heat or AC, just fan in the summer and bundle up in the winter

I dumpster dive occasionally, but after Big Lots closed there's hardly anywhere left here that doesn't either destroy their stuff or lock their dumpsters

>>2964244
I usually take home a few extra sauce packets from Taco Bell. About every third time I go, someone will talk in, take a fistful of packets and walk out without buying anything. None of the workers care.

>>2964244
I use worn out undies to wash the car. I collect the initial water when taking a shower to later mop the floors

I change out my bath towel every couple weeks. Amazingly that's about how often I also mop my bathroom floor. Take shower. Get out walk wet and dripping over floor. Dry off with towel, throw soggy towel on the floor and proceed to "mop" with towel now. If you want to, you can also clean your mirror and wipe your sink down before throwing the towel on the floor to mop with. Then it goes in the dirty laundry and I grab a fresh towel for the bathroom.

All my shirts eventually end up being rags for the garage and shop.

I made a motorized toilet paper un-roller for the public bathrooms that lock it up. It unwinds the shit tickets from their roll onto my empty roll, takes 45 seconds or so and just sounds like I'm blasting something nasty. No one is the wiser.

>>2964719
Never thought of that

I do have a 2 gallon bucket of coat hooks that I've stolen from various public restrooms though.

As a former detailer, I know how to carpet clean without a carpet cleaner. All you need is a shop vac, cleaner, and warm water.

I also know how to make a good all-purpose cleaner from scratch.

>>2964256
>>2964283
>>2964719
I dont get this gypsy behavior. Its not even gypsy since gypsies are above it but IT workers with 250k salary arent.

>>2964739
You start calculating the cost of stuff long term it makes a lot more sense

Just stopping and getting a $3 slice of pizza or $5 burger twice a week Would be $300-$500 a year. That's one tiny expense

>>2964739
You don't get rich by spending money.
There was a wealthy socialite known for feeding her lunch guests cat food tuna sandwiches. And another very wealthy man that had a payphone installed in his house for his friends to use.

>>2964719
>spending a minute or two to steal a single roll of subpar tp
Deeply negative EV.

>>2964743
>Just stopping and getting a $3 slice of pizza or $5 burger twice a week Would be $300-$500 a year. That's one tiny expense
And what can you do with 500 dollars a year thats so great. Is it retirement money? Is it gonna change your life. No.
If you are homless with no income sure but if you actually earn money you are better off working an hour more or getting a side gig.
>>2964745
You get rich by making money not saving money. You can save finite money and earn infinite money. And doing that cat food shit is bound to loose you contacts with important poeple. Plus you will actually loose money by curing health problems created by shitty food.

All in all this kind of extreme frugality and cheapness is short sighted mentall illnes. Ot makes no financial sense in 99% of cases.

>>2964745
Rich faggots do shit like that as a loosh harvesting exercise, not to save money

>>2964756
>And what can you do with 500 dollars a year thats so great.

Wow did you miss the point. You cut 10 $500 a year expenses, that's 5 grand a year, 100 grand in 20 years, 200 grand in 40 years. That's substantial and could absolutely go towards an early retirement. All from relocating some soap or some toilet paper here and there.

>>2964760
>200 grand in 40 years
Wow congratulation now you are 60 and you have the equivalent of 25000- 75000 of current money due to inflation.
It was totaly worth it to live like a jeet your whole life.

>>2964761
Stay mad and poor

>>2964763
No arguments just pure mentall ilness. Despite not obsessing about money as much as you I probably earn more than you. I met plenty of cheap fuckers usually its coupled with low risk tolerance and lack of social skills. Horrible traits for earning money. Even if you somehow got money it would still live worse than average mcdonalds wagie.

Happy hunting I hope rats are fat and nutritios this winter.

>>2964767
Kek cope poor

>>2964754
These are the big industrial sized rolls, I resell them 3/$10, buyers lined up all day long. That's $3.33/minute, or $200/hr for you plebes. I recharge the unwinder batteries at the public library so my cogs are literally zero. It's free real estate.

>>2964244
Honestly, id rather pay for a clean bathroom than sharing it with hobos.

>>2964773
Is this a joke hahaha no way you scizo

>>2964775
Is clearing $300k/year tax free a joke to you bud?

>>2964732
>As a former detailer, I know how to carpet clean without a carpet cleaner. All you need is a shop vac, cleaner, and warm water.
>I also know how to make a good all-purpose cleaner from scratch.

I've used one of those bissel mean green machines for upholstery cleaning in vehicles. When it dies I'll be replacing it with one of those clear suction nozzles from amazon and a small wet dry vac from Harbor freight. I never use the part that is supposed to pump out the cleaner and instead use a pump up spray bottle from Home depot. Also use the Harbor Freight concentrated cleaner and it works amazingly well to clean upholstery. I recently bought some powdered Sodium Metasilicate to make my own cleaner though rather than paying for mostly water in a gallon jug. What is your recipe for cleaner?

>>2964773
>I resell them 3/$10, buyers lined up all day long.
bullshit

>>2964808
Anon, you might have just saved my marriage.

>>2964823
How so?

>>2964244
Are there places in developed modern society where people still carry coins? I honestly can't remember the last time I held physical money of any kind. I'd imagine it's been maybe 8 years or more.

>>2964256
How often to you stay in hotels to where stealing the roll or two from the hotel bathroom has satisfied your toilet paper needs for 6 years? Seems like it would be a lot.

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>>2964881
>Are there places in developed modern society where people still carry coins? I honestly can't remember the last time I held physical money of any kind. I'd imagine it's been maybe 8 years or more.
I pay for everything in my day to day life with cash. Unless it's a tax deductible item through a business then I'll use my credit card or put it on my account and pay for it with a check at the end of the month for a paper trail. Buying stuff off of Craigslist or Facebook marketplace I'll usually use cash because that is what people want to deal with so there is less risk on their end, but I'll get a hand written receipt for large ticket items such as heavy machinery.

There are still tons of reasons to use cash. The government has no reason to know exactly where I spend and what I buy. Its not that I'm doing anything nefarious, it's just none of anyone's business what I do. Fuck em.

I live in a small town and there is a local store that I stop in to buy snacks a few times a week where the staff knows me, but have no idea what my name is because I've never offered my name or any form of identification and always pay with cash.

>>2964881
America kinda dumb and never made 5 of 10 dollar coins. We tried $1 dollar coins but people didnt like using them because they were almost the same as quarters. A lot of countries printed coins in values to keep up with inflation

>>2964937
Why would you prefer coins over bills? Daily carrying coins is annoying. At least bills fold up relatively flat in a wallet.

Inflation affects coinage in the same way it does bills unless the coins are made of actual precious metals...

>>2964944
Governments like coins because they last longer. Vending machine companies like them because they make larger purchases easier. Common folks don't like having change jingling in their pocket or using a coin purse.
Glad Trump did away with the penny by just stopping production instead of talking about it endlessly like other presidents have.

>>2964881
Yes, actually. I go to local weekly market to buy staple groceries at a reasonable discount compared to regular supermarkets. I always pay in cash and if I come in near closing time they occasionally even have nice discounts on produce that's not going to salable later anyway.

>>2964244
I find it hilarious that in Europe everything is a human right.
Except for using the restroom.
You have to pay for that.

>>2964760
>>>Relocating

I used to be a security guard at a car parts plant. Saturday and Sunday nights were great because you could pilfer so much shit since the shift coming in Monday morning wasn't the shift that left Saturday morning. So if anything was 'missing' day shift would just blame night shift then vice versa.

>>2964834
I'm a night owl. This means I can't get up early to get to the rental place to rent a carpet cleaner. My wife refuses to go rent herself, so that it would be ready when I finish breakfast. I'm not entirely sure why and it's kind of irrelevant at this point.

The next constraint is that we have to empty out each room before cleaning the carpet. Which is not easy because we are pack rats. 3 rooms in total.

The other constraint is we have to do it during the summer, on a hot day, so the carpet dries out quickly.

The long and short is that the carpets haven't been cleaned in >15 years and they need it.

But being able to do the carpets one at a time, at a leisurely rate, on my lonesome if needs be, is a God send.

>>2964760
You spend 500 bux on shit paper?

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>>2965035
Not him but I also just started using my shop vac for it. You cab get some of these to agitate it too.

>>2965052
You use that exact model?

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07CLZM4ZB

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I've fallen down a rabbit hole about shop vac carpet heads. And I found picrel. Do people really use the fire hydrant to clean their car?

>>2965060
i highly doubt it but it's a hilarious concept

>>2965060
Probably not in the US unless it's your own hydrant. Sometimes construction sites will get one for temporary water but they get a water meter bolted onto the hydrant

>>2965052
Those 1/4" hex nylon bristle brush sets for your drill work good to scrub vehicle carpets.

>>2965060
>Do people really use the fire hydrant to clean their car?

Lol. No. You're not even supposed to fuck with fire hydrants at all.

I have pulled carpets out of super nasty vehicles and pressure washed them on a concrete slab until they quit running nasty water out. Takes a few hot days to dry everything back out though.

>>2965060
>>2965072
>>2965073
>>2965074
>americans cant comprehend this level of freedom
lol, lmao even

>>2964283
>I keep McDonald's and Burger King cups in my car to get free refills
Why not just drink water?

>>2964256
Public tp is the thinnest garbage ever. Sometimes ill notice someone having that one ply trash in their place and i have to assume the have a negative amount of money to be living so miserably.

>>2964244
I save fast food napkins and keep them in my glove box. I always have tissues or stuff to clean up a spill or something because my glovebox is absolutely crammed with brown napkins. My dad did this

>>2964881
I get paid in cash sometimes from my boss if he gets paid in cash or if i do a sidejob and they give me cash. Ive got an envelope with like 6k in it.
Feels good having a wallet stuffed with bills. Also buying stuff is easer because i dont have to deal with occasionally unreliable card scanners and signing receipts and credit card bills are smaller.

>>2965104
Why would we even have to when most of us have our own yard hydrants? Leave the fire hydrants for the fire dept to fuck with.

>>2965372
This, only I have probably 70k in cash right now... Never used an ATM in my life. Don't have to go to the bank and ask some uppity teller to withdraw my own money from the bank. Sure is nice man.

>>2964760
>>2964743
Not the anon you were responding to but just so I understand this, your “one weird trick” to retirement is eliminating 10 weekly instances of wasteful spending, ie a five dollar burger twice a week? So your strategy is to just not eat out (or some other similar waste) twenty times a week?

That’s isn’t exactly a cheat code to life. Many people can handle that wasteful spending just once or twice a week so again, for normal people, it’s only a few hundred saved a year. That’s not going to keep pace with inflation. There’s nothing you can appreciably do with that little amount of money. If you are personally saving by not wasting $5000-$10,000 a year on fast food, good for you. But that doesn’t make you super thrifty.

>>2964917
what if government throws a hissy fit and bans cash sometimes i feel the stores do give you an attitude over using cash
can you even buy equipment with just cash i don't think you can buy a car because it's the payment plan they sell as they say

>>2965543
>what if government throws a hissy fit and bans cash sometimes i feel the stores do give you an attitude over using cash
>can you even buy equipment with just cash i don't think you can buy a car because it's the payment plan they sell as they say

I've never had a store give me crap about using cash. Some places they don't want to take a payment over $10,000 in cash or else they have to report it. Cash is still king for Craigslist or Marketplace deals, and some auction houses.

>>2965398
Not the same person, but same behavior: I try to spend as little as possible pre-made food mostly because I'm anti consumerism, also the idea of a jeet in the kitchen touching my food icks me.

>>2964244
Every time I walk past Burger king or a McDonalds I go inside and take a handfull of pepper, salt and ketchup packets
I haven't bought spices or ketchup in years

>>2965543
Legal tender for all debts, public or private.

Maybe I sound lame but I do the following:
Automatically deduct the bigger chunk of my paycheck into ETF/ savings account. Can't spend what isn't there.
Switched jobs to a place within 4 miles of home. Bike to work. Make probably 15k less than inna city but save 2h/ day in driving.
Repair anything. Car, socks, wife's kneading machine ( 40 cents for a new 37 Mikrohenry induction coil and 25 min of swearing and 2 mins soldering)
Have no credit card.
Buy all stuff second hand except some tools.
Wanna retire in 7 years. At the moment it looks doable. I have one of the worst 5 cars in the company lot by age and appearance, but I work only 4 days a week so there is that.
I enjoy cheap hobbies, I bought the worst house in the best neighborhood we could afford. Been renovating it for the last 5ish years.
That is finished now so I'm looking for a rental property to work on now.
Thanks for reading my blog fellow scrooges

>>2965543
You can buy a car outright but most dealers have a limit on how much literal cash they'll take (often about $7,500 iirc.,) mostly to deter drug dealers and people like that as far as I know. You can go to the bank and get a cashier's check for the entire price of the car and use that though, I've done it several times.

>>2965701
KEK
they want you to finance because the banks give them commission for every goy they sign up for debt slavery

>>2965895
They want to finance, but they don't force finance. I've paid for 3 cards with cashier's checks. The seller is a bit put out because most of their sales tactics are based around hiding the real cost you're paying for the car. But they won't refuse a sale.

>>2965907
Yeah, I've been through that process several times as well, a couple of times with insurance settlements on family members' cars and once when I made a really big down payment on my current truck. (12k trade-in + 12k down and only had to finance 10k.)

>>2965907
They're just as sad when you bring your own loan from your bank. He just kept asking me for the interest rate. Like come on bro we can best themnjust tell me your apr.

Okay fine your offering 5.5 and I got 2%.

Damn Okay.

>>2965701
Never, ever say you wanna pay straight up cash for a car. They'll just adjust the price for what they're gonna lose on financing interest. Get in house financing with short term 0% interest and pay it off immediately

>>2965923
I'll do you one better and just never buy from a stealership. Fuck that noise.

>>2965023
This is why you dont hire blacks

>>2964244
>sell your toilet
>shit and piss out the window
>never wipe so no toilet paper costs
>sell your bathtub to save water costs
>set out pigeon traps for free food
>lick condensation or squeeze out mold if thirsty
>eat everything raw so no cooking costs
>get your laptop from a scrap pile
>hook up your power to a lamp post

>>2964719
im really annoyed you didnt post a pic of your tp unloader this is the diy board. im calling you out and a big stinker until you post a pic

>>2965569
i quit eating out because of paranoia and also bad service(imagine complaining and then going back i had to stop the madness) the extra money isnt being saved but spend on much bougier grocery ingredients

>>2964283
I had a subway employee (not indian) give me attitude too so I reported his restaraunt to corporate about the manager being rude when asking for a refill, and now they honor all the refills no questions asked as long as you have a brand cup even without a receipt.

three meals a day is a capitalist scam. not only is food expensive, but so is eating so much in the long term. eating becomes an activity instead of a task. eating that much in general will lead to future health problems. there is also lots of time being wasted on acquiring this food, making it, eating it, and cleaning up.

money is essentially what fuels the economy, but money mostly comes from people, who primarily use food as fuel. so by eating more food, we have the energy to make more money. Having more money makes one more inclined to spend it on useless things. having the mindset of "i need to eat 3 meals a day or else" is not a frugal mindset. Combine that with ones money making ability and the result is wasteful, unnecessary spending.

>>2965689
i thought you biked to work. why is your car the worst on the lot if its a bike? are you a liar? why isn't your story consistent

>>2966019
He probably drives when the weather is shitty or when he needs to carry extra stuff for whatever reason.

>>2964244
I rub a small amount of wd40 on my tyres to reduce the friction between them and the road so they don't degrade as quickly.

>>2964743
so you weekly pay 50 bucks for a hotel room and steal 50 cents worth of toilet paper plus 1 dollar worth of soap and it stacks up to 6 dollars of savings a month - staggering 72 per year

>>2964760
why don't you just steal like a picasso painting and get 200 grand instantly instead of grinding toilet paper heists until retirement. It makes no economic sense

>>2965895
I will never understand how you people manage your money. You get a car loan, build credit, pay it off early, and have a new car sitting in your driveway for a couple percent of what the car costs. You just NEVER finance through the dealer. Come with financing from a bank.

I imagine it’s the same people that think the Menards rebate is some type of scam when the reality is they know most people are just too lazy to send it in. Do you pay cash for houses too?

>>2966033
Pfft lightweight. I have a spay bar in front of my car that mists the road with a light sheen of used motor oil.

>>2966033
Oil degrades rubber

>>2965942
based.

>>2966041
>He thinks dealers will accept cash
>He thinks dealers will accept outside financing
When was the last time you bought a car? 1990?

literally all furniture can be gotten for free because furniture is annoying to move and people just give it away on craigslist and fb and offerup

>>2964283
>I carry a dawn bottle into public bathrooms and fill them with handsoap I use for body wash.
This makes me feel better about my life.

>>2964719
>>2964773
This also made me feel better about my life.

>>2965689
>Make probably 15k less than inna city but save 2h/ day in driving.
Wisdom in action, anon. Time is money and your time driving is worth $30/h for vehicle and peace of mind.

>>2966041
Why would I pursue debt?

>>2964721
>2 gallon bucket of coat hooks
>now salvage pallets

Side hustle, coat racks on marketplace

>>2966051
Just like jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams? Sure buddy.

>>2964760
>Wow did you miss the point

You get it. Same idiots will take on car lease, pay capital cost reduction fee & high insurance. "But Bruv, my oil changes are free."

I've never actually done it, but you could in theory buy a coffee from the gas station, or even better bring back a cup for a cheap refill, and fill it 100% full with a coffee creamer of your choice. Then take it home and use it to put creamer in your own coffee. It would be way cheaper than buying actual creamer at the store.

>>2964773
realistically, how many public restrooms have industrial sized rolls of tp and are constantly refilling them to keep up your supply? The answer would be like two in the whole county and there would be an investigation due to high value of property stolen over time.

>>2964283
>I keep McDonald's and Burger King cups in my car to get free refills.
They're probably dirty and not good for you. In fact, keeping up with your affinity for these brand sodas is a bad choice in the long run because if you'll lose the ability to get free refills you will have to cope and probably will be willing to spend money on these drinks.

>>2966079
Guess I'll just have to not buy a car from your shitty dealer

>>2966018
i work blue collar and still fast 16 hours
it's literally an addiction
so while I agree with you, your rant sucked balls

>>2966018
government introduced food in into the society in order to keep people occupied and blind to the real scams going on

>>2964761
you ever hear of this thing called investing? You don't just save money and stuff it under your mattress like a retard. Also, skipping takeout and some other minor things is not
>living like a jeet
This is the type of false dichotomy I expect out of fatties when they get told to eat less

>>2966833
went to a gas station today for road beer and saw a giant line at the lotto station
apparently the nationwide lotto is up to 1.5B or something so all these sad saps on christmas eve are wasting their money on tickets

they'd be better off spending their weekly gambling money on some investing. they'd actuall come ahead
actual idiot tax
it's sad
i thought it might just be a wholeosme christmas eve activity but apparently it's just smhucks

>>2966957
>wasting
You don't understand lotteries.

>>2966958
explain non-jew

>>2966957
> 1.5 billion
I wonder what the incentivization threshold is for the lotto people to just rig/scam/steal it???

>>2966957
Meh. I never buy lottery tickets or gamble in any way and even I thought about getting a few tickets on the drive home from my inlaws last night. Had my wife look it up on her phone though and the drawing had already been done. i think she said there were no known winners so the next jackpot will be even bigger. Then we both started talking about what we would even do with all that money... its such an asinine amount.

>>2966959
>Buying a candy bar
Your are spending money for a lump of sugar aka short term happiness.
>Buying a lottery ticket
You are spending money on a daydream aka short term happiness.

Now obviously people who mortgage their house to get many tickets are morons.

>>2966972
Anything over 50k is worth stealing. How exactly do you plan on rigging a state lottery?

>>2967308
Not that anon, but they apparently keep a record of all the tickets sold and know if there are any winning tickets correct?

>>2964256
>haven't bought toilet paper or bars of soap in 6 years.
This suggests you spend a lot of time in hotels. Would the booking fees not outweigh the profit from the shower gel and toilet paper?

>>2965390
Better never get searched for any reason. So many videos of cops impounding cash if you fail to "satisfactorily" explain how you got it.

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I did phone-to-phone data transfer using a data transfer cable off the shelf at a big box store while I shopped, then put the cable back on the shelf when complete. 45 minutes of walking around with them in my basket. avoided: 25 carrier transfer cost, 52 charger/cable cost @ carrier, 10 cost for "borrowed" cable sold at big box store.

Bluetooth & wireless charging ceased working on my Galaxy Note 20 over a year ago. I finally caved and upgraded to Galaxy S-25 Ultra. even after spending nearly 1400 on a flagship model phone, overnight shipping and 10 year customer, my carrier couldn't be arsed to do a free data transfer in-store.

>>2967337
>Better never get searched for any reason. So many videos of cops impounding cash if you fail to "satisfactorily" explain how you got it.
No worries, I'm white.

>>2966079
>He thinks dealers will accept outside financing
Mine did, in 2023
maybe it's jews per capita thing

>>2967317
> apparently keep a record
… on a computer?
Nice! I’ve never heard if anyone hacking a computer system. It’s never happened. Also never heard of some IT guy making $33k a year able ti gain access to computer systems from the inside. It just doesn’t happen.

>>2967420
Wouldn't you.need more jews so they would demand their own financing to not get screwed by their bretheren?

If you didn't have enough.jews the finance guy would stop bothering because all the normies get screwed anyway

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>>2965942
dino tendies, what are you doing here!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAFWvs7bPSI

>>2967460
I can't speak for high-jew areas, but my low-jew area dealer let me finance through my bank.
also, more jews = more screws
the efficiency of scaling judaism never exceeds the loss from increasing vectors for theft

Uncle always grabs disposable napkins at restaurants and keeps them as tissues or cuts them up as toilet paper

Steal stuff from work. This year I stole 2 office chairs (and returned one that broke that I stole years ago so they wont get too suspicious). Also
>last year office christmas party
>almost no one took left overs home
>got a big tin of potatoes and chicken
>this year office christmas party
>everyone took stuff home
>only got 1 container of rice and fish
Damn people are learning. Also doesn't help that they fired over 1/3 of the staff and everyone is on edge.

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>>2965934
I'm white af boy
>>2967475
Brochacho, I worked at an office until it closed but I stole so much shit. It was a revenue office that got a SHITLOAD of mail twice a year for about two weeks and I loaded up on uncancelled postage.

Chairs, whole cases of lysol, bottles of handsoap, packs of TP, various tools, loads and loads of padlocks, extension cords

I probably got 10k worth of stuff over the years

>>2967448
>… on a computer?
>Nice! I’ve never heard if anyone hacking a computer system. It’s never happened. Also never heard of some IT guy making $33k a year able ti gain access to computer systems from the inside. It just doesn’t happen.
Ok and? So what steps do they take for the powerball to make it legitimate and secure?

>>2967490
(you) back then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyTf7y3ityk

>>2966079
I have never seen anyone out themselves as having no fucking clue what they’re talking about harder than this post. It’s actually impressive. Bravo.

>>2966137
>pursue debt
A few hundred dollars to finance a brand new car? If you’re living paycheck to paycheck you shouldn’t be buying anything new anyway.

>>2967689
He didn't even get any rocket appliances

And for all the shit I stole, they still GAVE me literal truckloads of stuff when they closed.

I got several stacks of lockers, probably my favorite freebie ever xD

It is way way WAY cheaper to keep your body warm than warm you entire house. Throw on a few layers and save $2-300 a month

>>2966041
>Menards
Now where in the Midwest do you live?

>>2967520
You would need a physical ticket with the exact winning numbers, that the computer thinks was generated before the numbers were drawn (which is done on a physical system using plastic balls). It would also need to be tagged to come from a specific location. If they were at all suspicious, they would pull the CCTV from when and where the ticket says it was sold. Your window to generate the ticket would need to be between when the numbers are drawn and when theyre validated against the computer (which is probably less than a few minutes, if not done simultaneously). Even getting a machine that could print the tickets would be near impossible.

>>2964882
And you've got to transport it back to where you live. Stealing an item with a value as low as tp is just silly

>>2965390
Your listing like 4% per year in all cash you hold (more like 8%)

>>2964739
I fully agree.
This ISN'T being frugal, this is ripping off shit like a NIGGER.
So many posts about stealing toilet paper..
FFS, unless you are some fucking retard or a woman who balls up half a roll just to mop up her snatch, a decent 1000 sheets/roll TP is about $1/per roll.
Tips for being frugal would include:

>Buying a dollar store spray bottle and Isopropyl alcohol for sanitizer-you can mix 70% with just water and STILL have a servicable sanitizer for hands, and hard surfaces.

>Save a glass salad dressing bottle and re-use it to make your own dressings; Healthier and dead simple

>Most window fluid is mostly water. You can make your own with 1 bottle isopropyl alcohol, 1 DROP of dish detergent, and top off the gallon jug,(re-use an old, empty windshield fluid jug,) with water. *Might freeze in very cold weather. so you can then double up on the Iso.

>Never hesitate to ask in every store where they have their discount section. Most places do, some grocery stores have multiples; one for each department. For produce, shop after 8PM, that's when most of the manager's specials will be out already. Never hurts to ask when they get re-stock either, this is often when shelf items that are close to expiry get discounted.

>>2964990
>I find it hilarious that Europe
same lol

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>>2967377
>No worries, I'm white.
yfw ten years from now we live in South African tier favelas with nigger police everywhere

>>2964244
I’m not rich so o buy the best of everything I can, snap-on tools, prusa 3d printers, DJI drones and goggles/VTX because I can’t afford to buy twice or “learn” by buying the cheap stuff, then slowly buying better

Takes too much time, space and money

>>2971062
Most of it is made in the same factory

I have mostly Icon, Craftsman and Husky tier stuff, I can't remember the last time I broke anything or a tool didn't do what I needed it to do

>>2971006
This guy actually got it. Living frugal isn't about how much you can steal since everything has a cost somewhere unless it was actually in the trash. Grabbing "gratis" supplies at hotels and fast food places doesn't mean you're sticking it to the man, it just means they'll charge more or do bullshit like make you do some Oliver Twist routine to get ketchup packets.

That said, trash picking can go a long way. Look for distribution centers for shelf-stable brands where they might dump expired product that is still good. I used to pull cases of chips weekly when I lived near a Frito-Lay DC. Flipping curbside power equipment that just needs the carburetor cleaned can also get you some cash.

>>2965342
Americans get an allergic reaction to water or any drink if the sugar content isn't high enough

>>2964882
You know he's lying, right?

>>2965370
Imagine being retarded enough to steal TP when a bidet will cut down your TP use and cost by 90%.

>>2967336
>Would the booking fees not outweigh the profit from the shower gel and toilet paper?
work usually pays all that

>>2964745
>There was a wealthy socialite known for feeding her lunch guests cat food tuna sandwiches.
Source?

>>2964792
Yes, because you don't do that.

>>2964917
How much cash do you take out of the ATM each month?

>>2964756
500 dollars per year by reducing one of MANY expenses is great. Would you say no to 500 dollars that requires no extra work to get because it's not enough to become fully financially independent?

Combine this yearly 500 with getting a cheaper place to live, cheaper car to insure/maintain, and deleting subscriptions and you could fund the majority of and IRA or something. Do the work of organizing your life once and then the saving is automatic. You don't even have to work more to have more - it just compounds.

>>2971169
>How much cash do you take out of the ATM each month?
None. I have never used an ATM in my life. The cash I have is from selling stuff.

>>2970988
>Your listing like 4% per year in all cash you hold (more like 8%)
I'm guessing you meant to type "losing" rather than "listing"?

Yeah I know it's not making me any interest, but I have money in the bank as well as money in the stock market too. Having it on hand to buy things when they come up has saved me more than it would have gained somewhere where you have to kindly ask for your own money back a couple days in advance so you can buy something physical with it.

Having silver or gold on hand is a good investment too, but not readily available to grab and head out for a facebook marketplace or craigslist deal. First you usually have to convert it to cash money. Any time money changes hands the middleman has to get his cut. I'd prefer to cut that guy out any time possible.

>>2971075
That’s not what I mean,

Take watches for example common advice is start with a seiko 5 then gradually buy better and better watches until you buy a grand seiko or a Tudor

But you’re better off just buying the thing you wanted not a cheap imitation or “entry level”

Same goes for anything really why would you buy pliers at a dollar store first then slowly work up to snap-on? Just buy the snap on ones

Buy the best you can of everything do not take the advice of buy entry level shit to grow out of that’s how you get garages and houses full of random low quality shit

>>2971187
Yes and no. If you have the money to buy the best of the best right off the bat go for it. Of course the absolute garbage cheap shit should be passed over if you can. But say I need a rotary hammer for a project that I need to get done right away. I'll buy that chicago electric one right now and get that job done, and then in a few years if I happen to be at an auction or estate sale and see a nice Hilti rotary hammer for cheap I'll buy it and then re-sell the cheapo HF one for 2/3 of what I paid for it. Tool upgraded on the cheap to a name brand and also job done on deadline. Win/win.

>>2971187
>I'm not rich enough to buy bad boots
Heard that once years ago and it never left me, even though I didnt always follow it. Computer chairs are a good example, in about a decade I've probably gone through 4-5 low end to mid range computer chairs. Flaking faux leather, cracked plastic frames, broken mount plates, worn out pistons. Bought a refurbished steelcase for the same price as all of those pieces of shit put together, and this thing should last me 20yrs. I'd be ahead 700 bucks if I did that from the start.

>>2971274
I had similar shit with pocketknives. Guys at work gave me shit when I first showed up with a $200 knife but it was still going strong, none the worse for wear, 3 years later, and meanwhile those guys had spent way more in the long run replacing their $15 gas station knives every few weeks when they'd fall apart.

>>2964244
Went to italy some 20years ago; old lady sitting in chair at highway toilets entry expecting tip/whatever. Wut? Weird and anachronic as fuck.
Tbh in germoney you also have to pay

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>>2971350
I've had good luck with cheap knives and I beat the everloving fuck out of them. I'm sure actual knives from the gas stations with their flashy looks and blingy handles are pure shit, but cheap ones off budk, ebay, or even temu have been 100% fine for me.

#1 thing to do is not get one that has stupid blingy features. #2 is when you get it immediately take the screws out one by one and apply red loctite or super glue and then re-torque them down. That's it. Enjoy your new cheap knife, sharpen it on a belt grinder, use it as a scraper and prybar if you want and don't feel bad when you lose it or break the tip off...

Pic rel is probably 7 or 8 years of abuse on less than $10 a piece knives... They get used as gasket scrapers, prybars, screwdrivers, cutting twine on bales, castrating calves, cutting knots open on cattle, and then cutting apple slices to eat. Sharpened on a 1x30 belt sander whenever necessary.

>>2971187
> watches
I haven’t worn a watch in about 30 years.
It’s just something I decided I didn’t need nowadays.
I have a clock in my car, and several in my house, a cellphone and a laptop. Before those, I had a pager if there is issues.
I’m usually pretty unconcerned about knowing what time it is, and I’ve structured my life around it (I’m not a radio silenced isolated sleeper/splinter cell team member worried about subsecond detonations to save the world)
It’s jewelry.

I got handed several apple watches from family members that simply didn’t use them. They’re sitting in a drawer now with the other ones.

>>2971430
Same. I can check my phone if I'm so inclined to know what time it is. Most of the time I really couldn't give any less of a fuck. I'll get there when I get there.

>>2971430
Keeping time is only an ancillary function of something else these days. I do wish they'd come out with an music player that has a watch on it. One that is affordable anyway.

It's amazing how fantastically expensive mp3 players still are these days.

>>2964773
Who's buying black market fucking toilet paper?

>>2965569
Right, but so do a lot of other people, or at least they aren't spending $5,000 a year on the stuff. His point about saving $5,000 is only valid if you're already wasting $5,000 a year, and most people aren't.

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>>2964283
Niggers like you is the reason why we can't have pic related and why everything is locked up behind a glass in Walmart.

>>2973522
>remote villages
that shit was still present in my hometown of nearly 8000 people when I grew up, after a few years this shit didn't work anymore
what's left are some vending machines for local products (mostly wine) where there's video surveillance and most of the time you have to pay with card

>>2973522
>>2973543
That shit is still present in my little village of 1100 souls, altough we are very close to a city of half a million bottomfeeders, we have a village self service village shop ( open 365 days a year) and you can buy anything from compost to flowers, straw, nuts, jam, eggs and bread from roadside stands.
In fact I forgot to pick up bread yesterday, so now I have to wait until Saturday because Susanne from the next village only bakes on two times a week. Luv me some wood fired bread with Griebenschmalz.

On topic: Now is the time to cut fruit and berry twigs for planting or storing for grafting.
Plant 7" long cutoffs 2/3 in a mix of sand and soil and you will have more berries in #27 than you can convert to marmelade.
I'm doing a 20 feet row of Jostaberry & Currants
also I try to graft some quince onto hawthorn so the hedge finally as an additional use.

And keep chickens. Good for the soul, eggs most of the year and they take less then 5 mins a day.

>>2971430
just sell them because they'll just get obsolete

>>2973522
how the hell do people know how much they cost these things keep fluctuating in prices

why is building a scrap metal lathe more appealing than contributing to open sores your time needs to be free for both

>>2964745
>jews do things to fuck with the goyim then brag about it and then the stupid goyim copy their psychotic behavior and think this is how you make the big bucks.

if a billionare is feeding you cat food its because they think you are a subhuman that doesnt deserve to eat people food, not because 'they are being frugal ;)'


>>2971075
>its all made in the same factory

absolute boomer midwit take. yes, its all made in the same factory. But that doesnt mean they are the same item. What happens is the factory makes 10 things, then those 10 things go through quality assurance. The best ones get the expensive brand label, the shittier ones get the garbage can lables, and the broken shit that shouldnt be sold is shipped off to places like the dollar store or harbor freight to swindle already poor people.

>>2966041
>get customers to pay you for low skill handiman/crackhead things
>buy their junk at Menards and mail in the 10% for yourself
>Use the 10% to feed yourself with cans of soup
>mail the new rebate in and now you're at 11%

>>2966120
If you want free and useless stuff, moving is a good job.

If you want free tvs, mount tvs professionally.

>>2974474
>harbor freight to swindle already poor people.
Lifetime warranty is the same at the harbor fart and your friendly neighborhood rape van.
What does it matter if it's a shitsburg or snapoff socket you broke by double cheater pipe when you will get a new one anyways?

>>2974493
having a tool break when I'm trying to do something is infuriating and now a huge waste of time
the lifetime warranty was intended to imply it was impossible/difficult to break it
not count on you being too lazy to call in the warranty
i'll pay 10x cost to not have to go to the store and get the tool replaced every year/month/week

>>2974576
How often are you breaking shit? Do you not have multiples on hand of those things you are breaking constantly?

>>2974577
when I buy cheap shit at ACE or harbor freight as a temporary tool it always breaks. fuckin screw drivers that twist off the shaft most often
tried some cheap jetsweat alternatives, ruined first use
i break my milwaukee tools sometimes and they send me a refirb in a week.
all my good brand hand tools haven't failed. except mini pliers that aren't knipex. i've broken every baby plier pretty fast. but i literally use them for everything. the knipex cobra is GOAT

really anything that is going to take actual force is going to break if it isn't a proper brand

>>2974577
>>2974579
and also i hate having piles of extra bullshit tools
i have work pile in work van and milder home pile at home
i do not want 10 sets of shitty sockets

>>2974579
>>2974580
Have you tried using the proper tools for the job? I mean I work on some proper fucked up stuff that is rusted to hell and back and heavy equipment and I rarely break tools. If something isn't moving, stop, re-assess the situation, and attack it a different way with heat or impact tools.

>>2974583
yeah. if my baby plier fits the nut and I'm strong enough to turn it, I have the right tool
if it breaks, it's a shit tool
this applies to sockets and all wrenches
if my screwdriver handle seperates from the shaft because I put a wrench on, it's a shit tool. it's also a shit tool when the biting surface is soft and it mishapes

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>>2974584
based actual tool user

>>2974585
lmao i would never trust vice grips for anything important, they snap open on me all the time and slip even more
maybe i'm using them wrong, I use them super rarely.
they're namebrand and I have 3 sizes of them for weird moments
i have a one armed coworker that lives by them but he doesn't do springs...

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>>2974609
>opportunity costs (fixed your spelling for you, homie)
When you find out that some people simply don't understand what opportunity cost is it can be an enlightening moment.

My Eureka moment was when I was in college and a roommate got stoned and ate a bunch of my food. He apologized, said he would pay for it, and offered me some cash. I said you go and buy it and bring it back or pay me double its worth. He was dumbfounded. I had to get the fucking crayons out and explain that, basically, he was treating me like a free delivery boy. The cost of the food was only part of it. I have to drive to the store, collect the shit, wait in line, pay for it, drive it home, put it away, and then get home from work a few days later to find he had eaten a bunch of it and it was not available for me to eat. Meanwhile, he was only paying for the actual cost of the food. So, either he physically replace the food or pay me to do it on top of the food cost.

Eventually, I made a roommate contract that all new roommates had to agree to. Again, a bunch of people couldn't wrap their heads around the rule in it about replacing other peoples food if they ate it. If they didn't understand, "Thank you but no thank you, move along" and I'd interview someone else.