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At the very least I've definitely seen people make these with a big transformer from a microwave or something.

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>>2966216
havent a bunch of wood faggots barbecued themselves doing this gay shit?
seems like darwin at work to me

>>2966216
>Been thinking of getting into these
enjoy your early death.

>>2966216
the thing you posted involves a highly radioactive step that requires special equipment you won't have
>>2966217
this one is slightly less deadly

>>2966216
These (real ones) are made with an electron accelerator beam. Fake ones are made using subsurface laser engraving (bubblegram) with a yag laser. Just putting high voltage on acrylic could work but you would need 10 times the voltage of the wood ones

>>2966217
This is achievable but as others said it’s pretty dangerous if you’re new to electrical safety.


The new captcha is a joke right

>>2966236
Is it really dangerous if you use a very low current? As I understand it people who kill themselves with microwave transformers are usually just straight up plugging them into a main. What if you're supplying, say, 0.1A to begin with, and you just leave it running a long time to achieve the static charge in the insulator? That way even if you get a shock, the current is below the threshold to hurt you. Or am I not understanding something?

>>2966240
>Or am I not understanding something?
2000V at 0.1A is 200W AC.

>>2966242
Sorry I'm retarded, I meant to write 0.01A. 0.1A is still above all thresholds. But the point is, I don't have an intuition for what total power is enough to hurt you.

>>2966243
>I'm retarded
Just give up anon, a lighting pattern in acrylic isn't really worth it

>>2966244
Yeah I'm not going to do it, but I still want to learn. Maybe it can save me thinking about other retarded ideas.

>>2966240
If by ‘use’ you mean ‘absolutely guarantee that it cannot be exceeded’ then sure. The practical safety approach is to make sure that you and everything conducting or combustible is at a safe distance whenever the device is powered. Think a hold to run switch mounted 5’ away from the electrodes, an interlock switch, whatever.

>>2966249
Try a crystal growing kit.

>>2966221
Yep it got quite a few people, like about 30+
Its one of those things which could be 'safe' as long as you're following some fairly fundamental best practice with high voltage transformers along with a good chance of something catching fire. Needless to say, about half the population probably ignores most of that and gets a free heart-stopper just fucking around thinking they know what they're doing

>>2966255
What are those best practices? Where can I read about them?

Where do you live OP, I will put up a news watcher for "Man from XX found fried at his garage"

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>>2966259
It's things like a circuit breaker on the transformer so it doesn't over-run under load, it'll need to be enclosed so you can't bump it or knock things loose, don't let it overheat because they catch fire and most importantly- you can't be hanging onto live wires like (pic) with just some gloves. The material being tortured should be on something like a dry silicone mat to stop it grounding out through the workspace and you'll need to find a way of articulating the contacts.
I'd recommend something like a piece of pvc conduit set up on a movable mount so you can lift up, put it down where needed and its all hand's free. You're insulated by the conduit and can just set it up to burn were you want but without any kind of touching it.

Like even something along the lines of a microwave transformer, even if your heart is still working they can offload enough voltage to blow the skin off fingers, thumbs and cause some really deep tissue burns that can require skin grafts or amputation if it goes through and cooks the bone.

>>2966272
Breakers won't save him

This is a Darwin Award in the Curiosity category for you greenhorns.

>>2966273
Its more about just dealing with the fire instead of the combo of electricity + fire in the one location, which may save someone else just trying to unfuck the mess

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The coroner's report will say you died by autoerotic electrocution, and it will list your penis as unremarkable.

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I've tried it a couple times, using a small oil burner transformer instead of a microwave one so it was barely strong enough, but also significantly less likely to be fatal.
If you're smart, you set everything up with the transformer unplugged, then plug it in while standing several feet away and stay there while it runs, and don't leave that spot unless you've unplugged it. If you're never within arm's reach of the thing while it's on it can't hurt you.
If you must go near it, do everything with one hand held behind your back, like any high voltage work, so at least the current doesn't bridge across your heart.

At the end of the day it's neat but still kinda pointless, why bother in the first place? I've got a couple bits of wood with neat patterns on them but nothing really to do with them, it looks tacky to put on anything and is too hard to control to use for any kind of design.

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100% safe and effective.

>>2966272
Thanks for the tips. I wouldn't use a microwave transformer for this. I was thinking one of those neon light transformers.
>>2966282
Cool video, thanks. I was thinking of making some cutting boards with designs from this. Seems like it would be cool.

>>2966287
Used to do it with an old 10KV Neon light transformer. Just don't be a dumbass and dance with the pixies.

>>2966259
Electrical safety / HV safety operator certification manuals. Basically >>2966250 but more detailed
- Power is always off when person can touch whatever is powered, on only when at safe distance. A grounded metal mesh cage with interlock door switch is the standard but a polycarbonate box can be fine
- Power only on when user actuates button (designed so that electrocution cramps don’t make you actuate it). Button switches some 24V for a relay of course, not the high voltage
- Some extractor to remove smoke so you can see what’s happening and to remove toxic copper vapour cloud when shit shorts out


Sure there are plenty PPE/E-stop set ups that look and feel safe but the better practice is always to distance yourself from the hazard when possible

>>2966370
>Power is always off when person can
people are forgetting that the caps in transformer will continue to hold (deadly) charge for a while even if it is unplugged off.

>>2966373
>people are forgetting that the caps in transformer will continue to hold (deadly) charge for a while even if it is unplugged off.
I'm not an electrical guy, but aren't most transformers just two wire windings around a metal core? Why would there be capacitors?

>>2966222
These things are pretty easy to make with the right equipment, if you've got a medical linear accelerator you simply run in photon mode and disable the target.

>>2966398
My bad, the capacitor is in the microwave, not part of the transformer itself. Once it is removed the transformer itself doesn't pose such risks but while trying to remove the transformer from a microwave, you need to be sure that the capacitor is all discharged while being careful about where you touch

>>2966221
>saturate the material in fluid electrolyte
>don't create electrical isolation or fail safes
>get out bare jumper cables

The microwave transformers have enough current and voltage capability to not only kill, but to maim anything in their path. imo most electrical injury is nonlethal. There are sensitive nervous system areas that can be disastrous with lesser electrical mishaps. The MOT is like an electrical sledge hammer, anything a little conductive in front of it turns into a light bulb filament. The body is a bag of conductive jelly anyway.

I believe one youtuber was able to use low voltage to accomplish burning. There can be a lot of power available at lower potentials, and that may be enough to create the desired burn features in materials. imo the best practice would be to create appropriate probes and isolation. Only the very tip of the probe needs to be exposed, and that could be spring activated to switch off power when not in contact with the material.

>>2966479
If the voltage is low, doesn't that lessen the fractal effect?

>>2966485
I suppose it could cause channeling, but I haven't experimented with either. I want to say the video was Tech Ingredients and has been taken down because I can never find it again.

>>2966549
Lots of them seem to be getting taken down. I guess cause people keep trying the experiment themselves and dying.

>>2966221
>havent a bunch of wood faggots barbecued themselves doing this gay shit?
Yep.

>>2966272
>It's things like a circuit breaker on the transformer so it doesn't over-run under load,
The microwave-transformer version of these will fry your heart and never blow trigger the breaker or fuse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBeSKL9zVro

"Let's talk about the project on the Internet that's killing the most people."

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>>2966216
why you finna try Ligmaberg sculptures frfr you finna blow yer nuts out yer ass nigga no cap lmao

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>pg 10
>no diy burn marks
ops probably now a piece of fried chicken

>>2966216
Not worth it, it just etches the same tree/branch-like structures which is boring. It’s like if you bought a drawing tablet that only allows you to draw Mickey Mouse (or some ugly, abstract versions of him too)

>>2966216
Dunno if there's a way to DIY a real one. Getting that amount of charge actually embedded deep into the plastic without a particle accelerator seems infeasible.
Even with a particle accelerator it usually can't charge more than a couple centimeters deep.
Any burning/engraving/laser methods will look significantly different than a genuine discharge one.

>>2966216
You should do a big one of an anus height map.

>>2966569
>"i shouldnt put myself in series between driver and tube just to see if it gave me a shock or not (it did) well there you go with science"
kek lol

>>2966216
We make these every now and then. Irradiate a slab with a linear accelerator, then smack it with a nail. Wear a respirator to protect yourself from ozone.

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>>2966216
>hehe
>more like ligmaberg
>am i right?

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>>2966216
>putting your life on the line to create some Etsy tier trinkets
your choice man

>>2966250
>and everything conducting
the problem with MOT lichtenberg is that insulators can fail and hobbysit wire + pvc pipe surely are not 10kv rated

>>2974266
even if it shorts through the insulation as long as you're not anywhere near it it can't really hurt you, the high voltage is pretty localized. At worst maybe it starts a fire and you kill the power and then put it out
But yeah the people doing shit like moving the probes around by hand trusting their insulated stick are pretty retarded, and you have to take it seriously every time and keep your head on straight, the people that die do so because they get sloppy and distracted and then pick the thing up while it's running or panic and do something stupid when something unexpected happens.