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Hi /diy/, I'm in between jobs right now and lately I've been collecting broken appliances from the curb and checking the dumpsters around my local apartments too. I've taken apart a few microwaves and resold a couple working mini-fridges. It's not a ton of money but it keeps me busy. Any other scrap collectors?
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>>2967161
Greetings fellow scrap enthusiast. Your biggest concern should be homeless bums with knives. Hope that helps.
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I went to an estate sale once. Dude had a barn full of old woodworking tools. Drill presses, table saws, wood lathes, you name it. Guy was a hoarder. They were mostly smaller tools meant for a home shop. Craftsman, Rockwell/Delta, Walter-Turner, etc. Dozens of tools. They were in barn shape; grimy, rusty, covered in dust but mostly complete. In front of the barn a guy had pulled up a trailer and loaded it up with the electric motors. He took just about every single motor off of every single tool. He was talking to the person running the sale about what he was going to do with them.
"Yeah, I pull the windings out, put them in a pile, and set them on fire. That burns the enamel off of the wires so its just pure copper."
"That sounds like a lot of work."
"Yeah, but I can probably get a few hundred dollars for all of the copper in these motors."
The motors alone were worth a few grand. Check eBay for the prices of vintage electric motors that are branded Craftsman, Rockwell, etc. They do not go cheap. Things like knobs, guards, fences, covers, lights? Forget about it.
I talked to the trailer guy and bought a couple of the step pulleys off of the motors for $5 a pop. They were zinc or zamak so he didn't care. 5-step pulleys are crazy expensive. I also got a few of the larger motors. The most powerful was a ¾ horsepower Rockwell. $25 each. I then bought a few of the larger shop tools. I got a Buffalo Forge model 15 drill press, a Walker-Turner 'Light Heavyweight' drill press, a Rockwell Delta Unisaw (still had the motor in it because they are so huge they guy could get it out), a Craftsman model 150 drill press with a with a "Vari-slo" speed controller, and a Craftsman model 100 bandsaw with original stand. I bought a bunch of other little things and tools. I spent about $600. After a cleaning the Walker-Turner drill press sold $450. I got about $250 for all the step pulleys I didn't use on eBay. I still have everything else.
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I have several people that save cans for me and then I have a bunch of old city trash cans, Craigslist freebies, that I gradually fill with various grades of copper and brass. I don't knock myself out, whenever they're close to maxing out my ability to roll them on the trailer I'll haul them to the scrapyard. Yeah the transformers in old microwaves are 3-5lbs of copper a pop, just gotta cut a little bit of weld. Newer ones are coated aluminum
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>>2967222
>CAD drawing of some homeless encampment
czechd toos
you should see the posterboard sized cad dwgs displayed at left coast utopia metro city council meetings when discussing how to deal with them. millions have been spent paying consulting firms to have their jr engr shit employees make color glossy multi layer plan views of blue tarps and sidewalk shitting zones
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>>2967247
Our City Council's grand plan was just to keep clearing encampments. The homeless pack up and pop up somewhere else. So, they clear them again. Over and over. They can't arrest them because being homeless isn't a crime. They are paying cops overtime to clear these encampments while running on being fiscally responsible and not solving the problem. Build a homeless shelter? Nah, that would cost money. Make a designated homeless campground? Nah, that would cause crime. Try to get these people into low cost housing? Nah, that's socialism. They spent several hundred grand fighting a lawsuit that would allow them to keep clearing encampments though. And lost. So now we have encampments all over fucking town, they can't clear them anymore, and they won't build a shelter or a city maintained campground. Meanwhile, they wring their hands about the problem while running for re-election year after year. Meanwhile our cops are being paid more then any other city employees. Their total compensation packages are so huge they passed a sales tax increase to cover all the 'safety' they are providing. They are some of the highest paid cops in the state. At least our fucking roads are falling apart. They don't want to spend money to fix them. Fucking hate 'small government' obstructionists. They pay lip service to that cause just so they can not solve any problems and not take the blame.
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>>2967253
The homeless don't want to be in a homeless shelter because they are crazy and or want to do drugs.
You can't give them free housing because that's socialism and they would destroy it and all the normies that have to actually work would be incredibly resentful if this free housing didn't come with the same restrictions as the shelter.
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>>2967255
Any money that isn't spent on more cops and small business won't get past the council. Who's is on the council? Small business owners and a former cop.
>>2967260
You should run for our city council. They say the same shit and do nothing about the problem. Do you perhaps own a small business? What are you opinions about not paying for road improvements ever?
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>>2967253
Pay the cops even more overtime to make the homeless go on death marches during the winter/summer. Shifts and shifts of cops constantly harassing them, not letting them eat, not letting them sleep, not letting them drink.
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>>2967369
>solidly built sure, but the technology was crap
You sound like someone that has never actually used an old drill press. Exactly what technology has improved in the last 80 years? The major quality you want in a drill press is 'solidly built'. You want thick castings, you want weight, you want rigidity. They have it. Some chick shit sure as hell doesn't.
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A bit more since last time. Stripping wire with a knife is slow going. I will probably buy a wire stripper eventually. I am not sure why the thread devolved into /pol/ posting.
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>>2967830
Being an adult means realizing that Sheriff Teasel was 100% in the right
>Smelly dirty knife wielding hobo wanders into your nice quiet mountain town
>"I'm headed to Portland"
>Give him a ride in the direction he's going
>"N-no I don't like that, I'm gonna go back and prove them wrong by being a *violent* smelly dirty knife wielding hobo"
I mean maybe he could've thrown him a meal or something but he literally just drove him to the edge of town and said "Portland's that way"
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>>2967186
Just got back from the yard with today's profit. It's too bad you're afraid of homeless people.
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My local yard pays absolute shit. But it's better than paying to dump it at the landfill or have it trashing up the farm. I make sure I collect an entire dump trailer load before hauling it in so I don't waste fuel on extra trips.
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>>2967836
There's medal for Korea on Teasel's desk. This implies that he's a vet himself, but he didn't turn into a miserable hobo, so he probably can't relate to PTSD struck Rambo, plus he's probably a little butthurt that his war was forgotten quickly, while Vietnam was all the rage and thus he feels Rambo is being pretentious. It still makes him a petty character with bad personal traits, but it does explain his attitude.
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>>2967841
Those rates are pretty pathetic. I know obviously you're selling it to a company thats selling it to another for processing etc and everyone needs their cut but unless your area routinely has hundreds of pounds of high grade scrap for free I can't see this being very worthwhile.
Personally I'd rather build up a massive scrap pile on my property somewhere, maybe doing melts like those stacking guys. Then just wait for the economic turmoil / collapse of the USD and go "well... instead of $1000 spread out over years of scrapping instead I have a couple tons of variable grade metal here worth 10's of thousands in whatever the new currency is.
Most loads of scrap that net you $100+ are going to be days of gathering and disassembling and sorting scrap. I dunno am I crazy for thinking $0.xx per pound for metals sounds like you're giving away too much of the value there?
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>>2968241
Pressure keeps bums moving. So when I find a bum defending a dumpster, I go into the store and joke about their "homeless camp in back." I remark to the local nogs that their is cute white guy staying behind the building. I leave trash around the area. Works pretty quick.
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>>2967253
It’s pretty well known by now that cities generally keep a certain homeless population to point at for sinking millions in funding to “help” “solve” the homeless problem, which is then stolen by city employees through contractors and middlemen.
It’s pretty easy to solve the problem if you think about it.
>>2967255
They would never put them *all* on a bus, just if they become a problem.
>>2967260
You don’t have to give them free housing, just temporary hoteling (not a literal hotel) and shelter.
If it’s cold, you can use the exhaust heated air from other buildings.
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>>2968397
Chevy C-10. Put a screen in front of the rear window so it doesn’t get broken when you throw in pipes. Put a chain and padlock under the hood, and lock the doors when out poking around construction sites and dumpsters. But will they steal scrap out of the bed? Yes, it’s just part of the job. Try to be aggressive and scary.
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>>2967247
It's really not that bad
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>>2967186
I do Security and its the worst thing when some asshole tells some bum he has "permission" to go through trash to collect cans.
Always leads to "collecting scrap" which always leads to shit like ripping downspouts off the building or just smash and grab out of cars.
Give one bum "permission" to even think about being on property and in a week you got a small village and you are Bum Central.
"Permission" will be passed via "electricity" like in baseball from bum to bum.
Plus the cops will be "but they were GIVEN permission".
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>>2971525
Go easy of the security guards. It is a low paying position and all they are allowed to do is to call the cops. In my city the cops won't even respond to calls about homeless bums unless there is an assault.
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>>2967273
It's easy to speculate about how the government could be spending more on camps or housing, but if you don't address people's critiques about those approaches it's no wonder you don't get listened to. It's not enough to just respond "oh yeah well what do you think we should do?"
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Rather than selling I've become interested in melting and casting the little bits I've accumulated over the years (I'm in a town rather than a city so there's not much dumped stuff to take apart). I say "interested" but I'm already at the point where I've got the materials to follow this guy's instructions and make a small microwave melting setup: https://www.instructables.com/Melting-Metals-in-the-Microwave/
Currently have the spare microwave, fibre blanket, tape, carbide powder and silicate. Gonna need a respirator first since I have soft hands and don't already have one.
It's a variety of metals so all I can do is separate copper (purity notwithstanding), miscellaneous magnetic bits and everything else, which will probably be the biggest issue I'll have since I don't know how hard it's gonna be to melt a lot of them.
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i see at least two boomers drive around the neighborhood filling their trunk with deposit bottles and cans from the recycle bins every week
the time invested in digging through shit stinking recycles and the gas burned can't be worth it
anybody else see clowns like this? i mean they're not even homeless what the fuck is the rationale
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>what the fuck is the rationale
boredom
my geriatric pops goes out nightly and pulls in the dumpster for cans and junk and even occasionally food. on sundays he rides his pink girls bike he got for free off the side of the street out if town and picks cans and shit out of the ditches
the he calls to brag about getting $1.60 in can deposit returns
he lives in a house probably worth a million bucks and collets near $120k combined yearly inmostly govt retirement payouts