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This might fit into a /qtddtot/ thread.
But oldheads, what should the younger generation do? I already do CNC fabrication, completely self taught, but I feel forever capped at $25/hr. I can also weld, I can fabricate all the shit I cut out, I can do a lot, basically if something needs to be made, I can make it, from start to finish. But I feel like what I can do is worthless because I’m stuck at a wage that will never own a house, at least where I’m at, or even to be able to afford to life alone.
I wish to wake up dead every day so this endless monotony of “existing” stops.
What do?
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>>2970520
Have to start running the shift then managing the shop or setting up everyone's jobs so they're all the $25 button monkey and you're continuing to improve your skills
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>>2970528

worthless post

unironically just make it work on 25$, keep the job at 40 hours and do something on the side while you can. (flip tractors, cars, whatever)

one person with nothing to borrow against has never really recently been able to buy a house. the bank wants the second person.

im 36.
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>>2970520
>basically if something needs to be made
Well there's some stuff you can do
1. Learn to do viral/fashionable shit and post it online
2. Learn what rich people in your area like and make that
3. Get a sewing machine and make furry suits.
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>>2971010
>fashion shit
>furry suits
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>>2971010
>>2971011
If I could sew and make fur suits I would not have made this thread, I’d already be a millionaire.
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Only $25 hr? Shit I'm about to enroll into college for CNC. Should I just stick to my current job? Pays $33 an hour
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>>2972353
I went to college for CNC and I make around 40-50 an hour depending on the job. Not really though
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>>2970520
Join a union
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>>2970520
Dude, I am so tired of reading these doomer feels posts. I'm sorry anon, but you're just wrong. You're not capped at $25/h. Listen mate, I don't know what your situation is, and I don't know where you live, but I've known machinists raking in mid-six figures in areas with a mid-range cost of living. Granted, they were very good at what they did, since the parts they handled were themselves valued in the five-to-six figure range. I know it's not the same everywhere, but there's a couple places in the US where manufacturing is really taking off. My point is that if you're really good, or you have the ability to get good, then there's opportunities out there for you. You do have to find the right place. You're not gonna find a good job working for some boomer who has no vision for growth, you gotta join a company that both values your skill and has the tools and the vision to make you worth a good salary.
Where are you at? I may be able to give you some pointers.
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>>2970520
When you say you do CNC fabrication, do you mean you sit in front of a computer all day drafting things in SolidWorks, AutoCAD, etc.? Or are you the person loading and unloading the CNC machine and welding the pre-cut pieces together?
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>>2973479
I do both.
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>>2973554
Sounds like you either work for a small outfit that can't afford to pay your better or a large outfit that that doesn't care to pay you better because they will just hire another chump if you leave. So, leave. Interview at other places that pay better and, when one of them offers you a job, put in your notice at your current job and walk away.
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>>2971011
furfags pay crazy prices for those things
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>>2970520
>But oldheads, what should the younger generation do?
fuck if I know. all the rules from my time no longer apply. thankfully I no longer have to work.
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>>2973466
Bro I used to be a machinist, programming and managed 2 people in. 6 person company, 3 people in the office me and 2 subordinates in the shop

I still made less money than Panda Express that pays $29/hr in California

Honestly, not worth learning this trade

Chose another trade, fuck be an electrician you’ll make more than a programmer as an apprentice on year 1
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4000 a month is enough to be comfy even in the us
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>>2973723
Don’t forget taxes and health insurance. Anon’s take home is probably $2500. Minus a grand in rent, and at conservative levels another $125 in gas and electricity. If you believe trump’s $3 chicken, broccoli, tortilla, and one other thing that’s $300, but more likely closer to $350~$400 in food spend.
So that $4k evaporates into $1k, and god forbid you have a car, or any sort of hobbies if you want to save anything to eventually afford a home, or retirement. Which if they were saving the recommended 15% for their 401k they’d be down to literally $500 a month in wiggle room. There’s a lot of other expenses I’ve left out too. Internet, phone, etc
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>>2973641
What do furfags do for a living? How do they make the money? Might be OP's answer.
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>>2973572
It is a small shop. 3 people, including myself do all the production.
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>>2973863
Knowing how to program a dmg Mori DMU 60 to make f1 engines is worth less than knowing how much orange chicken to scoop into the cardboard box in the free market by the way

Actually in the free market you are actually worth less money than someone who doesn’t even know what a tenth is, what a test indicator is, what a noga arm does, or what even a dmg Mori is
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>>2973919
This is depressing news.
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>>2973830
collect disability and don't have bills
or be tech fags
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>>2973919
>>2974332
this is actually true because there's demand for panda slop and panda slop workers
nobody wants to pay US manufacturing costs and the few little companies I see wanting to do it can't find manufacturers willing to bother with <1million orders

it's a shitty scenario

my take in FL, wages are hard capped about 25/hr no matter how good you are. because no unions and lots of cheap illegals. when I lived in a west coast state it was upwards 60/hr because of the unions. I happen to work for a company that adds comission, so I can sometimes double my weekly if it's a good week but...
you gotta move to a place where there's max pay to get max pay. inb4 'paying west coast prices'
you can live outside portland/seattle and there's small companies that only take jobs outside the cities and rates are maintained.
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>>2974344
Can you blame them?

How often do you chose to buy snap-on (forged and machined by your fellow American machinists) over harbor freight (forged and machined by the people actively taking your machining clients away from you)

How many snap-on and made in USA tools do you have? Do you have a snap-on or matco box made in USA to house all those American made tools?
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>>2974362
I don't and I do prioritize german>american>else tools
i'm very upset my future milwaukee power tools won't be actually american
can't do anything but shrug until the government is changed

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