>>77313420 >in every animal study tested (4 different studies now) beef tallow helped prevent and even showed evidence of reversing liver damage >n-no of course we won't do a peer review study on humans how dare you question the science on plants being the only things humans should eat
>>77313416 >So when exactly did fish & chips become unhealthy 1.) You are not making fish & chips yourself with beef tallow and good quality fish. You are buying it from a restaurant that use seed oils and the cheapest ingredients they can buy 2.) Even if you do make it yourself with the correct ingredients, you can't just eat nothing but fish & chips and be healthy. You need other foods. Which leads to 3.)It scews very high in fat relative to protein and carbs and lacks key micronutrients. You'd need to be mindful to eat other meals higher in protein and carbs and micronutrients that cod and potatoes lacks. Saying a single meal as "healthy" is a misnomer and only used with specific meals by society to say "this meal likely has high amounts of nutrients that you are likely to be statistically lacking". One meal isn't really "healthy" or "unhealthy" but a diet can be.
>>77313416 I dare you find me a single fish&chips shop that uses anything but days old questionable motoroil grade grease in their deepfriers. THAT'S why it's unhealthy you stupid faggot.
>>77313416 >low quality fish that has been frozen for half an eternity >low quality potatoes fried in thousands of calories of saturated fat >mega dose of sodium
Beef tallow is full of saturated fat, it is not healthy, never has been, never will be. We have decades worth of meta analysis, it's not even up for debate.
The only people that claim beef tallow is healthy are Youtube conmen. That's literally it.
>>77313416 This post is easily refutable, but you asked that we refute it, which would psychologically make it easier for a contrarian to agree with you. You must have known this. However, the filename indicates a hastily saved photo from Facebook, which suggests the possibility that you yourself refute this and simply didn't have a real argument with which to do so, meaning this entire thread is an extension of some normie's facebook post in which OP is too cowardly to engage with unless he has a winning argument. And since that indicates OP is a massive faggot, I choose to support this outrageous claim.
1. unless home made, beef tallow is highly impractical. and even if it was used, it'd cost more than you can afford /w /fit low income status. 2. it's the amount that matters. even the healthiest ingredients will kill you slowly if you over consume it. 3. Retards remain retards. This is unrefutable.
The picture didn't include flour as an ingredient and not a single comment mentioned it I had to look up the recipe for fish and chips to make sure I wasn't crazy
>>77313416 The breading adds carbs and holds in too much fat, which is unecessary calorues. Potaotes are great, but fried potatoes are generally processed and lose al lot of their nutiritional value AND soak up a lot of the oil, which also adds too many calories to the diets of most people. If you only ate, like 10-20 fries, maybe it wouldnt be a bg deal. But a big pile of fries adds little in the way of nutrition, lots of carbohydrates and calories.
Its mostly about the calories - shit turns you into a fatty.
Go ahead and pan fry up a naked piece of cod - slice a potato into "coins" or wedges and fry them in a pan next to the code. Much better choice calorically AND the untortured potatoes will add some nutrients.
>>77313441 Your post is a whole new level of mentally deficient
If you don't grasp this basic concept, it's very likely you get tricked by even the simplest things. That's not jews out to get you, that's just your mental bar being extremely extremely low.
>>77313416 >>77313416 >cod ok >potatoes ok >salt nope, you have too much of it you fat nigger >lemon meh, neutral >lard/tallow for deep frying nigger tier slop
>>77313610 We used to think saturated fat was good in the 2010s. But new evidence shows that we were wrong. Saturated fat is horrible for us, as every single study shows.
>>77313441 >>77313435 He's partly right. You shouldnt mess with your krebs and randle cycle Eat fat in your meals with protein and keep carbohydrates for your pre, post and intra workout
>>77313886 Wrong, dummy. Every study shows Saturated fat is "associated" with a rise in LDL and LDL is believed by many smooth brains and big pharma to "Cause" athericlerosis and heart attacks.
Give me one reason other than the LDL issue I identified why/how Saturated fat is uniquely bad.
0% chance the amount of fat you actually need in your diet is sufficient to justify deep frying anything. reformat this to cod pan seered in tallow and oven roasted potatoes and it is in fact correct.
>>77313416 Before I moved to the US, I worked in an Irish chippy.
The people who ate this shit were not healthy. It's not simply that it's cooked in tallow. It's saturated to the point of dripping. That's a massive amount of fat that's not healthy no matter what the fat actually is. Second, the oil is not frequently changed. Maybe once every 2 weeks. In the meantime it's just spun in a device called a Merlin which is just a centrifuge that spins the larger debris out of it. Trace amounts of all sorts of shit remains in the oil. Everything from metal shavings from the lifters to melted plastic from scoops and styrofoam containers that are used in the vicinity.
Those ingredients are healthy. When you use them yourself and follow proper procedures. Getting this shit from a restaurant is not healthy and never will be.
>>77313416 Proportions and creation of trans fats during deep frying. Deep frying might be one of the most tragically harmful cooking practices we came up with. Fats do not like being heated to several hundreds of degrees, period.
>>77313416 The human body is like picreal It's one of the contributing factors as to why we're the apex of the apex predators Our grandmothers and nannas understood the nuances of diet by observation, i.e.:
Eat too much = fat = bad Eat too much fat = fat = bad Alcohol = fat later on in life = fat = bad
Fish and chips is so good fried in beef tallow. However, even in England, there's only a handful of chippies that actually use the stuff. I go to Whitby, where they all use beef tallow and the competition between chippies is fierce, so you get an excellent fish and chips but then you're spoiled because you come home and every local chippy fries in veg oils which gives you greasy, bland, soggy fish n chips. Moving away from beef tallow frying under the pretense of 'health' (more like cost) was a huge mistake nationally. They used to fry McDonald's fries in tallow too. I bet they tasted fucking great. Proper fries, tallow fried and liberally salted. Now you get these tasteless little floppy cunts without any salt, usually dead cold too.
>>77313416 It's mostly a difference in the amount of oil and how it is used. If you have a baked fish or a baked potato with a side of butter, that's completely nutritionally different than deep frying the fish or potato in pure oil. The oil soaks into the food you are cooking, including into the breading.
the problem is the quantity of fat used in deep frying, not the fat itself. you may not believe this but some things are healthy in moderation but bad in excess
>>77315152 I can see the raw chips prior to serving and that's not uncommon. it is, however, common in sweat kurdish kebab shops with gives us some clues about your locality
>>77317105 it doesnt matter who sits in that cabinet chair until corpos stop pushing literal slop to the american people, and until people learn to consciously control their own intake and not give in to their most base desires, this circus will continue and we will get fatter and fatter
>>77313416 Potatoes aren't a health food. Neither is beef tallow. Also too much salt is bad for you. Your also leaving out the flour from the equation. The main thing is the macros are badly blalanced being mostly carbs and fats. The nutrient density is mid to low. Cut the portions in half and add in a salad and something high protein like greek yogurt or cottage cheese and you have a good meal you could eat everyday. You just want to get a balance of carbs, fats, and protein while also getting enough nutrients for your caloric buck.
>>77317664 It is all to do with amounts. Triple the amount of veggies you have on a burger and you get a better balance. Also Juice and soda are basically the same and you shouldn't really drink either. Bread too is basically just empty calories thanks to the engineered wheat and barley in addition to most contaiing some amount sugar.
You'd think a board that has diet as one of its primary topics would had above-toddler level of understanding food. There is no inherently "healthy" food in existence. There is also not really any inherently "unhealthy" food, but with caveats for literal poison. Usually literal poison doesn't receive the "food" label, but if we categorize stuff like alcohol as "food", then there are some inherently "unhealthy" foods.
Regarding the question in the OP, there is absolutely nothing inherently problematic in fish 'n' chips. Pretty high in calories for their volume/satiety, but the macros are actually pretty well-balanced. Might be on the lower end in terms of micronutrients per volume/satiety/calories especially if the ingredients are highly processed, but nothing outstanding - could be trivially compensated for elsewhere in your diet.
Everyone with a brain cringes when they hear "healthy" or "unhealthy" attributed to a specific food as opposed to one's diet in its entirety. Sadly, most people are brainless NPCs.