>>77313957 >best possible gains a man could accomplish You're a fucking retard and this thread is bait. Look at the average heights across the world retard. That should tell you that historically the people having the most success with the ladies aren't lanklets. All this bullshit is driven by social media faggotry. Wake the fuck up, social media isn't real life. Us short guys, as a statistical fact, get more pussy than lanklets, through sheer fucking numbers dude. Most girls only want a guy a little taller than them. Most don't want comical pairings.
>>77313991 Tell that to all the college hoes. Ever see a 6'2+ guy walk into a donut shop, a library, or anywhere really, surrounded by girls (like 2)? Because I have, and those guys weren't special and look a lot worse than this guy who at least goes to the gym and is clearly fit. They were lanky as you say, their only defining feature was that they were tall as giraffe... Older women might not like it as much, but if you're into women in their prime 18-24, especially Tinder sluts, you're going to want to do this... The idea is to look different from the rest. Stand out, and that massively boosts your chance of getting your own harem of women, or getting the girl of your dreams...
>>77313991 >Indians get together because it's all they can find in a 3000km radius ergo being a manlet means it's advantageous because there's 3 billion people like you How do you manage living to adulthood while being this much of a down syndrome
>>77313946 Can we take a moment to show respect to any guy who does this? I respect ANY man who does WHATEVER THE FUCK. IT. TAKES! 50 of these guys could take over any country if they fought together, funny gait and all
>>77314106 Ouch, that probably hurts like hell, but this guy looks happy despite going thru all that so it can't be all bad, or at least not as bad as it looks hopefully.
>>77313946 >films self while holding onto a shopping cart can he even walk?
>>77314084 >>77314105 the proportions on some of these guys look weird. I know a guy who has medium proportions but super short calves. this would make him look more balanced. but this guy is too much legs
>>77314126 Why should we respect it? My initial instinctive reaction is that it's sad and pathetic and done for vain shallow reasons
Worth noting he was already fit before the surgery. Women were probably absolutely brutal to this poor lad. I'm 5'11, so the issue is not as dire for me, but I know for sure 3 inches are the difference between no matches to 100 matches on Tinder if you live in a crowded high competition shithole like I do. It's all in the pics he can take now, plus they will not use height as excuse to break up with him.
>>77314152 Looking at the 5'7, you can't convince me any amount of gains or even confidence would've been proportional to his 6'4 surgery look. I'd rather have a funny walk than be 5'7 or that short.
>>77313946 >hi 4chinz >how can i in2 get infections, non-unions and weak-ass legs that snap like a racehorse's requiring amputation at the slightest trauma >t. short king Sorry u were 2 stupid 2 run GHSR agonist and aromatase inhibitors at the end of puberty like me. >t. same height as Clav *claims* to be, fuck this retarded surgery
>>77314160 Maybe he figured he was never going to look natural while walking again so why not just go for the whole shootin match. Idk man who am I to judge, some people are billionaires and miserable some people are shorter and miserable. All I know for sure is happiness is always found from within and not without.
can he even have sex with his fucked up legs? he can hardly walk, can't squat and probably has trouble kneeling, imagine him trying to get into position to fuck. imagine trying to pick up a girl and he just fucking falls over because his legs are so fucking frail not worth it
>>77314514 Plapping isn't exactly a leg intensive activity unless he's standing up (though he wouldn't want to fuck them standing at 6'4). He could try doggy style on a girl that's positioned on a bed though, and if that's not comfortable then perhaps just letting them ride him for the first 1.5 years. He's also tall enough that very small girls he could carry with just his hands while sitting down would seek him out. He should be able to kneel after the recovery period, take a look at this.
>>77314137 >My initial instinctive reaction is that it's sad and pathetic and done for vain shallow reasons
Imo it's blatantly ignorant to say that height doesn't matter at all in dating. Yes, it's vain and shallow, but that's what women are after, which is itself vain and shallow, and only losers would complain or deny reality. Sure, it's not all they're after, you could look extremely cute, funny, or have fame and status, or be rich, and those could factor into her final decision too, but being tall a cheat code in case you do not have everything else secure, and I mean in regards to casual sex with women, since they only have it a very small subset of men and that includes very tall men.
>>77314192 >some people are billionaires and miserable Elon Musk is an example, largely because he doesn't exercise much and uses a fake antidepressant; ketamine.
I'm 6 foot 3 and I don't see what the big deal is about being tall. I can understand if you are a 5 foot 6 manlet or something, but anything above 6 foot in diminishing returns.
>>77314006 Lengthening your legs fucks up your proportions. Men naturally have all their strength and height in the upper body. Also a healthy, natural person's armspan is their height. That's why he looks uncanny, his legs are now disproportionately long, and his arms will look off too because his armspan doesn't match his height. If you're very short the tradeoff might still be worth it, but you're also risking looking like a deformed freak.
>look how much taller I am is doesn't matter that I walk like a daddy long legs in human skin If there's one things bitches find sexy as FUCK it's a guy with a limp or strange gait that makes it seem like he might be retarded.
my gym partner is like 5"7 and he gets women hitting on him all the time because he's in good shape and confident. He also has a successful business and a good looking wife. Living on the internet will rot your brain big time, try life without it
>>77313946 Literally just wear boots with higher heels and lifts that give you 1-2 inches of height, don't fucking cripple yourself for women, it literally isn't worth it
>>77314105 I'm sorry, but 5-10cm I get, but 20? In no fucking universe you were supposed to be 20cm taller than you are, your entire proportions are going to be fucked
>get leg lengthening >still an uncharismatic loser >but now you're taller so a certain % of retarded shallow women are more likely to sleep with you or at least give you the honor of spending money on them
Ok... and arm lengthening surgery when? Did anyone tell this losers that they look like badly drawen cartoons with uncanny proportions? All that money, pain and effort just to end up looking like a freak and now having a very easy weak point.
>>77314084 >mfw that bit at the end lmaoooo he looks like a midget on stilts
you can't really say anything though, this is still baby mode compared to the retarded shit women do with fake tits and ass injections and lip filler and fuck knows what else
>>77315773 And your kid will he also get leg lengthening surgery? Will it be a generational thing like some people get a house your kids get their bones broken? If breeding is the only thing you care about you're barely above an animal and you shouldn't use science made by human beings you pig.
>>77315828 >your kid will he also get leg lengthening surgery Ill be smarter than that, if he's a boy, Ill give him mk677 at the age of 14.5. His mom will not be privy to it, its gonna be our little secret. This will have the privilege to seek his gf on the taller side, which might fix things over the long term
>>77314888 >>77315407 A tall man is mired everywhere he goes due to sheer size difference from the crowd. Insecurity or not, it's really hard to fuck this up. It's not necessarily just about confidence, women are attracted to men in the spotlight. If you are extremely short (E.G. a dwarf) that could also work in your favor, and that's part of the reason dwarfs are also able to get married.
>>77316130 thats just instagram jests. The real value of LL is going from 5'6 to 5'10. At 5'10 you can already larp as a 6'0. Add a proper hairline, you're golden. Anything else is just a bonus and therefore not worth it imo
>>77313946 >>77314105 Why not just stop after the upper surgery? He gained 4 inches, still looks somewhat proportional and it would seem like your femur would still be somewhat strong after, while your tibia and fibia are doing to be weak because they will be too narrow for their length.
>>77316084 >>77316096 I'm 6'1" without any LL surgery and my fingertips go down to around mid-thigh level lmao.
>>77316630 I'd think if you go through LL surgery, you'd have learned the hard way that GHSR agonists are worth it at the end of puberty. >t. did those and wasn't short king since middle school
This must be some usa thing because as a european this seems one of the most pathetic things you could dream of doing. Don't know about you guys over there, but here you can be 190cm and if your brain and personality is the wrong type, you won't go nowhere. Maybe men in usa are a bit shorter on average like 175cm vs 180cm in europe, dunno, but still.
Also considering this process + recovery must cost a shit ton out of your own pocket and you couldn't just buy some personality with that money? Or just take some arm and face tattoos to fit in because it seems like in europe the tattoos are what you take when you have completely given up on everything else and want to fit in and be attractive. They also seem to work apparently because why else would half of population take them. I'm never going to take one unless I find myself in a gang or commit a homicide etc.
>>77316766 The height meme doesn't work as strongly with the metric system for some reason, maybe because nobody can tell the difference between a centimeter
>>77316798 Could be but similar rules can apply where there are zero 5"11 or 176-179cm men in dating apps when you can just type 6" or 180-183cm and the ultimate and most wise selector of nature can't tell the difference.
>>77316930 >>77316936 Elon has terminal pharmacology skill issues and is very sedentary; those are his main problems. If he swapped his ozempig for a shitton of heavy metals and swapped his ketamine for some MAOIs plus worked out a bit, he'd be doing way better.
>>77316987 dick surgery has actually come a long way, you can buy an absolute monster dick if you're brave enough and it still works just like the one you had.
If you’re short, like below 5’7” I can understand why you’d want to do this but you shouldn’t do it because the risk is too great and there’s plenty of research that shows you can make up for lack of height in other ways down to bonafide dwarf heights. The studies showed physique alone can mostly make up for height, but so can good looks, good hairstyle, dressing well, social proof, etc. If you’re over 5’7” you’re retarded for considering this, especially in an age where you can geoarbitrage your height. A 5’5” guy is basically normal in Japan.
I'm 6ft4, 11.3% BF and /fit/ I don't get much positive attention from women or anyone else. People are mostly afraid of me. Only women who will even go on a date with me are mega tall.(6ft+)
Short and regular fags are delusional. Face and personality are far more important than height. I know a bunch of short dudes with amazing wives. But they have decent faces and good personalities.
>>77317266 >People are mostly afraid of me. Me when i live in a japanimation romcom setting. Le random guy is like so scary bro, shut the fuck up nigger. Unless you looklike martyn ford no one will be """intimidated""" by you. You are: 1. larping, those are not your stats 2. do not leave your house at all, which is why you write in this autismal monkey prose
>>77317277 95% of people look at me with surprise or fear. They only avoid that look after getting to know me. Height isn't some kind of cheat code normal ppl think it is.
Normal dudes think if they were just 6ft2+ their troubles with women would be over. Height is just another step before we get rejected.
>>77317316 yeah dude your dark and brooding eyes scare people so much, coupled with your sick trench coat and katana if you're not baiting, you should kill yourself
>>77317482 I look like a mexican jack black (literally have been told that). It's literally personality, which you can change, without permanently fucking yourself up with surgery.
>>77317314 Big number means you are valid and good in every part of the world or at least increases your chances. Ordinary money from ordinary job doesn't mean shit because women can work too, but at least where I live, a man will have more than 2 kids if they are either a criminal or a wealthy person. Not super rich but wealthy. Of course it depends a bit, if you work 60 hours a week just to keep a middle class lifestyle barely, it might not make you fun and interesting, it needs to be more than that.
That said, obviously being taller increases chances everywhere and stuff like tattooing your face and arms with criminal stuff despite never having done anything. That seems to also bypass all the "detectors". I wish we had a cartel culture so people who fraud with tattoos would get gangs asking why have they taken skull and tear tattoos in their face.
>>77317320 Not necessarily because there's already some deviation where people have longer or shorter femurs when other bones are similar length. Think about someone having shorter clavicles and someone otherwise similar to them has longer clavicles; it doesn't look stupid, he just looks wider.
>>77317589 I cant get a tattoo. Im too timid for that, Id have to larp instead of doing what Im doing now. You cant larp as a rebel, when you work in IT and you are tired after work. Then again, lots of attractive IT guys slay left and right. Those 5cms more means a world of opportunities. Its cheap as fuck, if you put it into perspective. I was working this whole time when rehabilitating.
>>77317518 Some people just look average, there is nothing that sticks to them. Try to find a gf when you are thinner than water. Some personalities you have to grow into, just slapping a tattoo is not enough. Imo energy levels are also genetical + social investment. Your parents might have done some things right, that may not be true for the rest of us.
>>77313946 >Redpill me on the downsides to this. Are there any? 1. You will never run, jump, or lift moderately heavy normally again based on a decision you made after totally working yourself up into a lather online, alone, with no external input
2. Your girlfriend, in five years who only flippantly liked you for your height because of the difference you create in her instagram selfies, is going to ask you for help moving and then some chad that was already naturally the height you frauded to will easily carry a fridge up the stairs and then she's going to look at the scars on your legs (which are getting millimeters skinnier each week) and your elevator heels and flippantly commit adultery in her heart with the mover
3. After the breakup your friends won't even be sure if they can give you a disparaging nickname like old man or stilts and make fun of you, you can't join in on anything athletic without it being unduly taxing, and it's generally tense, awkward and distant because they already know you were psychotic enough to break your legs for this thing you're chasing, and they slowly become ghosts
4. Now you're lying to people saying it's actually student loans you're paying off, and you've just had a stroke or something when you were a kid and you never walked normally again, to desperately try and get back the perception that you're normal
>>77316167 It is a a valid mating strategy >become tall enough to be accepted by society >lay your seed into a sow of greater height The best part of it all is that they'd be none the wiser if you feed the short ones hgh during puberty. Otherwise you would have to give them to the circus.
>>77317681 Are you telling me that I was sold to the circus for nothing? My parents weren't trying to give me my best life and were just feeding their addiction to cbd and white wine?
>>77317709 >with hair my brother in christ I am balding at 38. I just couldn't give less fucks about what shallow people think of me, I'm living my best live and so should you. stop doing things to yourself for the sake of others' approval. >>77317846 you are where you belong, monkey boy. now dance, monkey, dance.
>tfw 6'2'' in a country where the average is 6' Is it really that big of an asset in the US or in South America or in Asia? I've never felt tall in my life. I regularly see women that are taller than me even, though they're outliers obviously but not that infrequent ones.
>>77316084 ( 0:00:00 ) I'm here with two leg lengthening patients. First with Alex. Wait, let me repeat. And then with Anna. Anna lengthened her legs by 15 centimeters. Both segments, and her arms too. 4.5 centimeters. That's three years post-surgery. After the end of the "click" phase, so to speak. Yes. ( 0:00:17 ) And Alex, actually, guys, I know you don't see any crutches, he's currently undergoing leg lengthening surgery, he's lengthening his lower legs and is currently at 7 cm. Of course, many people have questions. Yes, on the internet you often read things like, "Yes, you'll never be able to run again," or even, "You'll never be able to walk again." And today I just want to show you a little bit about what it's really like. Anna, three years later, you've lengthened your thigh and lower leg by 15 cm, so both together. Just show us briefly if you can jog. ( 0:00:49 ) Yes, friends. And of course, you'll be doing some exercise again. I'd say, yes, you can't see anything. You can just walk up and down normally. Yes, perfect. So I'd say that looks good so far. Anna passed. Now Alex, you are, well, I just have to tell you this, a special case, because he's walking around without crutches. That's really special. Show us how you're currently walking in the process. ( 0:01:17 ) That's really amazing. He's already walking so much, even without crutches, and it's truly incredible when you think about what's happening. Respect, you're doing a fantastic job.
>>77317312 You’re angry because you think you’ve found a scapegoat for your inability to talk to women with height, and you also think you’ve found an out with leg lengthening surgery and lifts, so anybody telling you otherwise is a direct threat to your perceived way out.
Getting surgery to get girls is like skinning a potato to paint the house. The only thing that is going to make you better at getting girls is actually fucking trying it, failing and improving. Being an interesting person who isn’t a miserable cunt that no girl wants to talk to. But that’s actually hard and doesn’t follow strict, rigid logical rules like autists like. So you will sit inside and shitfling about how this is why you’re alone, which isn’t helping anything.
If you’re really gonna do this, just fucking do it man and then get out there and try to fuck. Don’t sit around talking about it. Anything delaying you from actually trying to get bitches is retarded (including this hyperfixation on height/looks shit)
>>77318740 Again, I’m guessing this is to fuck girls. You should be trying to fuck girls instead of doing all this other shit, you’re just making excuses to avoid talking to women at this point because you’re scared. Stop talking about your face like a female. You can always wish you were taller or prettier but wishing and chasing that don’t do anything, go fuck with what you have right now. I promise you can. But you’re too scared, you need to look like a Hollywood actor who’s also the height of an athlete before you go talk to a girl (which you will fail at even if you had those looks because this is a mental issue you’re facing, not physical). Practice talking to girls first and get some easy pussy before you decide to break your legs, I promise you come back down to earth
>>77318736 >The only thing that is going to make you better at getting girls is actually fucking trying it, failing and improving. Being an interesting person who isn’t a miserable cunt that no girl wants to talk to
99% of the time I've failed with women is because I'm more interesting than the girl, and the girl is quiet. Just because a girl is disinterested does not mean that I'm not interesting at all. It's a logical fallacy. What's more, if a guy they were truly interested in (E.G. a tall and very attractive Chad) brought up the same topics, suddenly they would be curious about them. Most men don't have a confidence issue, women do, around certain men, for some reason.
>>77318405 I had bald spots when I was 17. I still got a gf turned waifu with kids. been with her for over 20 years now. your looks only matter for superficial bimbos.
>>77313946 >>77314084 >>77314105 >>77314152 Lol so do the bones ever fully recover? Don’t tell me they have to forever live with glass shins. Would a swift kick in the shins effectively paralyze these circus men?
>>77313946 >>77314105 should have taken the initial +10.5 cm and rolled with it, he got VERY lucky with restoring a normal walking gait and still looking perfectly proportionate. if you told me he had LL i wouldn't have believed you
but man's greed is too great, he fucked it up and now not only looks wildly disproportionate but also can't even walk correctly. i wonder if he can even run whatsoever
>>77318736 bro when will this meme end man talking to women is NOT HARD AT ALL. Bitches just put in no effort in the conversation so you have to jestermax nonstop or they ruin the conversation or straight up leave hahaha
Talking to guys is insanely easy because they participate in the convo and dont need you to jestermax the entire time
Having a 6'4, high IQ friend who not only didn't get girls but was actively ridiculed for balding early and having a weak jaw really cured me of the crab bucket doomerism here t 5'7, married, bodycount 30+