>>77318765
>Adjusted to perspective, feet are barely longer than a regular size pen
He's also 5'4 so

>>77318768
He's tall actually, 185cm

>>77318771
In cat units of measure, sure

>>77318768
>thinking such height approximations are anywhere near accurate
Please tell me you don't actually believe this shit. Please tell me you don't watch those dumbass internet "sleuths" with their utterly retarded height truth bullshit or that other retard that thinks he can find people from a single picture, blurts out some science-babble bullshit, and everyone just accepts it as real. Please tell me you're not that much of a fucking sheep!

>>77318781
Lmao manlet cope

>>77318783
Lol retard cope

I see muscular upper body, not legs. Why you are looking at his leg stats? did you fall for leg training?

>>77318781
I've noticed autists struggle a lot with perspective

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Here are other exercises he does: Bench press (90kg) / Incline bench press Smith Machine (60kg) / Dips (machine, 60kg) / Shoulder press (machine, 30kg) / Lateral raise (10kg). I don't understand how he's so good-looking while his lifts are very low?

>>77318809
All we can see is his biceps and lats
Post their routine

>>77318811
https://x.com/seblouissant/media

His biceps and lats are not the only part of his body that look great and developed

>>77318813
I dont have xitter post it or kick rocks

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>>77318824

>>77318825
Roidtranny
Threads over

>>77318765
I'm muscular and I'm weak as fuck. Sometimes it's genetic, I guess. Maybe something to do with the way muscle fibers are made.

>>77318835
How do you explain that? Do you do progressive overload? What was your starting point? I'm very curious about your case desu.

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>>77318830
That escalated quickly! Why do you think so? He doesn't look like a roidtranny to me.

>>77318809
thats good performance bro i don't know what you are talking about

>>77318765
70kg pendulum squats can be a lot, depending on the machine.
I squat 3pl8, but when I do pendulum squats I'll just load 20-25kg.

This dude looks like he only trains his show muscle serious and seriously neglects back and legs, he also has manlet proportions and likely weighs 150lbs.
Progressive overloads works for everybody for growing your muscles, you will never have a big chest benching 135. How aesthetic you appear depends on how your body is actually put together, and the angle of the light/how pumped you are for your photo.

>>77318847
Roid fag buy an ad

>>77318965
I have better numbers than his numbers, I'm shorter than him and I look DYEL

>>77318768
This. He probably weighs like 150 but just looks big on camera because he's lean, the Tristyn Lee effect.

I have a buddy who looks absolutely yoked out of his mind in all his Instagram shit but looks tiny when you see him in real life, and his 1rm bench is 185. When you're shredded the camera seems to add 30lbs

>>77318809
Not awful numbers desu, that's better than most guys in the gym can do. But absolutely weak for his physique

>>77318971
This, especially if his form is good and he's doing full depth. I'll never understand the guys who quarter rep on machines... At least this guy is honest about his numbers unlike the gay fake weights using influencers all over social media

>>77318978
>>77318996
These dudes are probably correct that he actually doesn't weigh a lot but manages to look huge on camera. Angles and lighting make you like 3x bigger when you got definition like that

>>77319003
Not saying it's awful, it's not indeed, but there's a discrepancy between the numbers displayed and his physique, you cannot deny that

>>77318992
i know for a fact that you are lying right now.

>>77319010
I am not, I could show you my body and it's awful compared to his body.

>>77319011
theres absolutely no way you are benching 220lbs for sets and not have a decent chest.

>>77319013
I don't do bench press with the free bar, I do it on the Smith Machine. That's the only exercise where I can concede his numbers are decent. However, for everything else, I'm sorry but it's way below what one would expect based on his top-tier physique.

>>77319013
He's probably fat. I have a 3pl8 bench but my chest hardly shows because I'm fucking 25% bf lol. That anon is probably in the same boat as me and needs to cut before his chest will really show

>>77319015
you're just lying i'm sorry lul
you dont have have any of these lifts yourself

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>>77319026
As you can see, even pumped, my body is way below his body.
>>77319019
I'm 73kg 175cm, so I'm not fat and since I'm shorter than him, I should look muscular more easily, which is not the case as you can see

>>77319042
That's not what i'm seeing, i see that you can't take a picture for shit, like wtf is this garbage setup. You are also carrying some fat.

>>77319056
If you don't admit that my body is trash compared to his, then you're not being honest. The "garbage setup" is indeed true, but I don't want to cheat my pictures. The guy I've shown is cheating on many of his pictures, but even in "normal" ones he looks way better than me

>>77319060
what?? xD

>>77319042
Less flowers and more lifting, faggot.

>>77319068
I'm already lifting more than him, that's what I don't understand. I was told progressive overload was the main driver of muscle hypertrophy!

>>77319097
we have already determined that you are not lifting more and your photos looks like shit, that makes perfect sense actually.

>>77319105
You just want to cling desperately to the myth of meritocracy in lifting and the idea that “the stronger you are, the more muscular you are”

>>77319106
that's called causality man, its a fundamental law of the universe, you can't deny that, yes the more you get stronger, the more muscle you will build

>>77319146
Yes but there are outliers: some people manage to get muscular without being that strong, and some people struggle to build muscles even though they are strong.

>>77319150
>>77319106
You have abysmal intellectual capacities

>>77319150
show me some who can deadlift 650lbs and bench 400 that is not muscular please i beg you :)

>>77319169
>>77319169
I can show you people who lift heavier weights than the guy that I've shown and yet look less muscular: me. I'm not saying I deadlift 650lbs or bench 400, though.

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>>77319146
the correlation coefficient between strength and hypertrophy is only like 0.6-0.7. it's not a 1:1 thing
>>77319042
i compared a fair pic of that guy's physique in the link you posted to yours here. you have comparable arms, comparable traps, and comparable delts. he's not actually that big, he just has an admittedly great-looking chest for his strength level and a much better chest circumference to waist circumference ratio (which is largely a function of lats and bf%).

>>77319172
>i compared

What do you mean? How did you compare? What's the tool, the metrics?

>>77319171
no one believes this lmao you are actually mentally ill

>>77319175
are you retarded? i compared the pictures with my eyes. that's what we're talking about, how people look.

>>77319177
lolllll OP is fucking stupid i swear

>>77319177
I thought you were asking AI or something

>>77319172
>0.6-0.7.
You realize how significant that is if we consider 0 or 0.1 to be the lowest possible coefficient aka someone at 0.1 ratio gets minimal hypertrophy from lifting x2 bw bench vs 0.5 same metric x2bw bench x 3 deadlift or whatever meme measure you came up with

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>>77319172
>the correlation coefficient between strength and hypertrophy is only like 0.6-0.7. it's not a 1:1 thing

It's even lower actually

>>77319183
>AI
>Elbow flexor training
Man go fuck yourself you deserve to have every single finger of your slowly cut off and your kneecaps crushed before being thrown in the middle of the atlantic

>>77319189
lmaooo i hate those science motherfuckers

>>77319194
So what's your opinion? How to explain discrepancies between strength and muscle hypertrophy?

>>77319196
theres NONE retard, there are only people who use different training methodology, to reach specific goals in their sports.

>>77319199
If you can't agree with the fact that I have a much worse physique than the guy I posted, I can't save you, you're being insincere

>>77319205
No i don't agree, however you should seek medical help because are likely suffering from body dismorphia.

>>77319183
>>77319196
here's an article on the matter if you'd actually like to something
https://www.strongerbyscience.com/size-vs-strength/

>>77319194
They trained them for 8 weeks and had them regularly deload to reach some convulted autistic 12 rep mark no matter what without progressively overloading
To think this the "most cited" paper subject on this matter is eye opening. I was a skeptic now i cant take sport soience seriously at all anymore

>>77319196
No one got it right in the thread, the answer is leverages. You simply have better bone lengths for certain positions and exercices which gives you a massive advantage and requires way less mucle mass to lift the same weight.

>>77319213
Very interesting, thank you for sharing.

>>77319221
I don't think so. The only thing I can mention is that I have a long torso, more specifically a long abdomen. Maybe this has an impact on how I look, on my ability to lift heavy?

>>77319244
yes it is, obviously you described it yourself, some people are pretty muscular yet, their lifts aren't impressive at all, while another seemingly skinnier guy can lift more than the muscular guy, that's all leverages, its by far the most important factor for lifting heavy.

>>77319263
But I don't really see how the guy I posted has particularly advantageous leverages?

>>77319265
That's right he doesn't, compared to you
thats why he ahs to be more muscular to lift less or the same as you.

>>77319267
Is having a long torso a good thing to lift heavy? I didn't know that

>>77319271
No i didn't say anything about that, i'd say its more limbs that matter.

>>77319275
I have short limbs indeed, so it can explain why my numbers and higher than his numbers for the lower body.

>>77319279
Well yeah its all about the ratios, someone who has longer arms/legs will struggle alot to lift heavy weights, consider yourself lucky!

>>77319285
I don't know if I have long arms though, I know that my forearms are quite long compared to my humerus but I don't know if the overall length is long or short

>>77319290
Well its easy to determine that by measuring your wingspan and compare it to your height, if your wingspan is longer that your height you have long arms, if its lower you have short arms.

>>77319290
its called the APE index by the way
(arm span / height)

>>77319060
The problem is that you are the only one doing this so of course youre gonna look like shit compared to others that take propre photos

>>77319420
Even if I was cheating on my pictures, I wouldn't look as muscular as him

>>77318809
That's 90 for 10, followed by a few sets of 95 for 7 and 8. Basically high volume bench. That puts him probably at anywhere between a 130-140 bench press which isn't too bad.

Guess his lower body sucks since he's not a powerlifter though.

>>77319448
No it doesn't

>>77319042
Your chest is very underdeveloped. I doubt your form / technique is good or you're lying.

>>77319456
I don't know what to do with my chest... It is very underdeveloped indeed

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