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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.
*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***
Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.debian.org
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org
https://wiki.alpinelinux.org
>Which distro should I choose?
https://gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
https://nosystemd.org
https://distrowatch.com
>What are some cool programs?
https://suckless.org
https://harmful.cat-v.org/software
>What are some cool terminal commands?
https://commandlinefu.com
>Where can I learn the command line?
https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://fsf.org
>How to break out of the botnet?
https://privacytools.io/os
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux
https://privacyguides.org/en/desktop
>Linux subreddits
https://reddit.com/r/linux
https://reddit.com/r/linuxquestions
https://reddit.com/r/linuxmemes
https://reddit.com/r/linux_gaming
https://reddit.com/r/suckless
>GNU/Linux alternatives
https://netbsd.org
https://openbsd.org
https://dragonflybsd.org
https://freebsd.org
GNU/Linux Games: >>>/vg/lgg
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I recently made the switch over to Linux (CachyOS). I have a standalone DAC.AMO (Topping DX5 II) and it works. However, in Windows, I could adjust the bitrate and sample rate for my audio quite easily through the speaker properties (pic related). Is there something similar to this in Linux that'll give me better control of my audio quality?
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>>107972799
If you're using pipewire then just set it in the config ~/.config/pipewire/pipewire.conf
If you don't have that file then copy it from the default (probably at /usr/share/pipewire/pipesire.conf).
There's all kinds of settings you can change in there. sample rate is default.clock.rate
If you're using pulseaudio only (not the pipewire bridge, but the actual pulseaudio daemon) then you would configure it in ~/.config/pulse/daemon.conf
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>>107973193
So during the couple dozen times I've browsed /g/ in the past, I've somehow managed to completely miss or pass over every instance of this? Why the fuck am I only so absurdly lucky with things that are utterly inconsequential?
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>>107972690
>all of a sudden
it started in the 90's
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html
https://youtu.be/k0RYQVkQmWU?t=1h13m48s
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>>107972799
Isn't that something you set in your apps? Pic rel is Deadbeef for example.
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>>107973500
That's a different sample rate. What happens there is you set a sample rate in the app and the sound server will then re-sample it if its sample rate doesn't match what the default of the sound server is.
He wants to change the sample rate used by PipeWire by default but there's no GUI to do that. You have to edit the config files like >>107973022 said.
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You know, one of the biggest myths about Linux is that you need to be a computer expert and do hours of research in order to use it. But looking through any Linux discussion immediately disproves this given the amount of people giving atrocious advice that hasn't been efficient in 20 years, not understanding how Btrfs works, calling Wayland shit because they tried it on Xfce, thinking PipeWire is Pentagon spyware, religiously promoting immutable distributions as the only correct choice for Windows users despite the fact that Windows itself is not immutable, and repeated insistence that the solution somebody is looking for doesn't exist (it has existed since the 90's). The amount of tech illiteracy (not just Linux-specific), delusional conjecture, intentional ignorance, and plain retardation you see in Linux discussions is astonishing, which ironically is a good thing because it proves that Linux is ready for the masses: when Linux's competency floor is this nonexistent, where people can be so confidently wrong on every front yet still get by fine without breaking their computer, it shows how user-friendly Linux is.
I think this myth is partly caused by Linux users stroking their ego by LARPing as sysadmins, even though it's clear the average Linux user is no more (and probably less) knowledgeable about computers than the average Windows user. At this point pacman requires less manual intervention than Windows lol, anyone calling desktop Linux difficult in 2026 is being dishonest.
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>>107973418
>So during the couple dozen times I've browsed /g/ in the past, I've somehow managed to completely miss or pass over every instance of this?
Yes. I've been here since Terry Davis and Luke Smith days and the "I'd like to interject" copy pasta was extremely popular at the time as was calling Linux "gnu/linux". Back then some people used the term gnu/linux unironically, but most people used it as a joke. Basically, it was a meme.
My guess is that the "GNU/Linux" meme died off after the Steam Deck got released and a new wave of normies came. It's just a different culture of Linux users now. Also 4chan (or at least /g/) itself is sort of dead compared to what it was years ago.
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>>107974482
That you can't drag-and-drop files onto photoshop under wine while running wayland?
>>107974487
Some literal who managed to get it working like a week or two ago.
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When I either compile something (or apt get a program but don't want to move onto the next version), how can I "freeze" those so that they aren't broken by future updates?
Recently, I was unable open a file made in an old nightly-build that has since changed completely, and the old source won't compile because of how its dependencies have changed since. I still prefer Linux to the tyranny of Windows, but this is like the Linux version of forced updates from Windows with the lost sense of control (while on Windows, it's easy to keep .exes of many versions of the same software).
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>>107974743
Use Distrobox to make a dedicated container with whatever distro you want (can be an older version of the distro if you want) and then run your application from there. As long as you don't update the container then it'll stay frozen in time for eternity.
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>>107974992
As long as you're conscious of the fact that you'll need to update the URL of the NVIDIA repo then it should be fine.
I think Apt doesn't do dist-upgrades from one version to another without you specifying a flag first anyway, although I may be wrong about that so don't quote me on it.
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>>107975006
Changing the sources from trixie to stable will ALWAYS get you the packages from the latest point release, whatever that may be. I'm making a system where clicking "Update" in Discover will ALWAYS bring your computer up-to-date.
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>>107975035
Ah, if you're using Discover then yeah, the plugin may just update everything for you without even asking.
Normally when the suite or codename changes APT makes you do something like:sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::AllowReleaseInfoChange=truto accept the fact that the repository has changed.e
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last time i ran linux i was constantly having problems with missing dependencies when installing programs, and having to track down those dependencies, only to find that installing those dependencies require additional dependencies and so on. is this a problem that has largely gone away, because i havent ran into it once so far. maybe its because im using fedora now while i was using ubuntu previously.
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>20 years ago
this was more like 10 years ago
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>>107972561
I often think of Source Mage. I was always turned off by Gentoo because it forced you have Python, among other crud. I imagine getting into SM now would probably require writing or modifying a lot of install scripts myself though.
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How much overhead is there when running stuff through docker or podman?
How dumb of an idea would it be to switch away from something like libvirt and run all my virtual machines through multiple docker/podman containers using this docker image?
https://github.com/qemus/qemu
And the ones for macos/windows
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>>107974487
Getting Photoshop running isn't a big deal anymore because infinitely less people care.
The majority of people who said "I won't use Linux because of Photoshop" were using it on a personal machine for hobby or some niche self-employment purposes. Many of these people were pirating (or owned a license to) an older version. These old versions were technically usable in Wine years ago.
Probably over 90% of these users would be fine using Photopea which is basically Photoshop but in a web browser and completely free. I know plenty of people who actually switched from Photoshop to Photopea. Even Photoshop itself now has a browser version apparently.
Also, many people have abandoned Photoshop entirely for multiple reasons. Firstly because there's now multiple serious competitors that are cheaper or free, like Photopea, Affinity Photo, etc.. Also people generally started hating Adobe in the past 5 years due to all the price hikes, inability to have a permanent license, them saying they'll train AI on your works, general public's fatigue of subscription services, etc.
So your average hobbyist doesn't even care about Photoshop anymore to the point it's no longer even the first or obvious choice. It's now a strictly business-to-business product.
Speaking of... People who are employed at a company which mandates the use of Adobe products don't care about Linux or Wine. They're given a work PC or laptop which is either a macOS or Windows machine and they're not allowed to install Linux or use a personal device. And companies themselves are generally not interested in having Linux devices anyway since the security is subpar and remote management tools are not as great.
>>107974881
This. Distrobox solves the shitshow that is Linux software distribution and compatibility. Sucks that it performs worse than Flatpak apparently.
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>>107975185
Yes, it's solved with Flatpak, Appimage, Brew and Distrobox.
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>>107975265
>Distrobox solves the shitshow that is Linux software distribution and compatibility.
What about sandboxing and containers or NixOS, don't those do what I think they do?
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>>107975185
>10 years ago
Not really it was just the early versions of debian and redhat that had dependency issues. Slackware also had and still has dependency issues but their solution was just to have every package installed and available.
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Is there anything like window rules for GNOME?
I want to set specific programs on full screen not to enable adaptive sync. On Plasma I can do this thing by forcing it disabled through Window rules. On GNOME well, I have nothing other than switching to GNOME x11 and editing the mesa defaults config file (because wayland ignores the adaptive sync blacklist in there). Is there any extension that does this? I have only managed to find an extension to add custom function toggles which allows me to manually toggle VRR on and off without going to the settings, and with a keyboard shortcut, but that's far from ideal.
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>>107975265
>using multiple extra package managers and giga bloating up your system is the solution
Or just use the package manager that comes with your system since most of them work fine without any issues these days even apt.
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>>107975397
It's better but only if you want to invest in the Nix wankery way of doing everything. It's unlike any traditional distribution. The nice thing about things like Distrobox is you don't have to learn anything new. You just do the same thing you always did only this time it's in its own box that won't break.
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Holy fuck I can finally ditch windows, Photoshop was the only thing chaining me to this shitty OS. I bought a 9070xt last year hoping id be able to switch.
Has anyone tested it and confirmed the performance is comparable to windows? I need to use it for professional work.
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>>107975425
Ok, thanks. I'll have a look at Distrobox.
Another specific scenario was with Linux VSTs breaking from updates. Would I be able to load an old Distrobox'd VST into an up to date Ardour?
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>>107975425
>you don't have to learn anything new
You literally do though. Running podman is different from a chroot since all your files that werent mounted are lost once you delete the container. You would also need to learn podman flags in case you need to do something out of the scope of the basic container setup.
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>>107975451
There's videos about photoshop on linux so you could reference those but you wont really know until you try it out yourself.
Just remember that it only works in some random guys fork of wine and not mainline upstream.
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>>107975491
Okay, you have to read the documentation to find out which flag bind mounts your files.
What I meant is you don't have to learn any new distro knowledge. You aren't going to be sent down a rabbit hole where you're forced into learning a new custom domain specific language to configure shit.
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>>107975559
Also, today in Wine staging. So it's no longer just some random guys fork
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>>107975593
No, they just took it because it's FOSS and they can do that. Wine doesn't have Pull Requests on their Gitlab for some reason so the guy sent it to Valve which closed it because they also don't take pull requests through there but someone got it into the right place anyway.
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>>107975566
> distro knowledge
Nix is not a distro its a package manager. NixOS is just a distro that uses Nix as its primary package manager
>You aren't going to be sent down a rabbit hole where you're forced into learning a new custom domain specific language to configure shit.
Its not really as in-depth as Nix is but distrobox does have config files to create distroboxes with all the packages you need and binaries exported prepared.
I wouldnt really suggest distrobox to someone new they would be better off with flatpak.
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>>107975602
>No, they just took it because it's FOSS and they can do that.
Oh right. I thought wine devs would've been stubborn and not do anything about it until he came to them with the patches needed.
>Wine doesn't have Pull Requests on their Gitlab for some reason
I think they do its just he had to verify his account or something that he didnt want to bother with
>so the guy sent it to Valve which closed it because they also don't take pull requests through there but someone got it into the right place anyway.
I knew about the valve part.
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>>107975638
Also, they could probably build it themselves but in my experience the Flatpak builder tooling is pretty crap. It's a mess of YAML and Python scripts. They need to make it possible to easily build a Flatpak from a Containerfile
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Using the GitHub arch linux tutorial ( https://gist.github.com/mjkstra/96ce7a5689d753e7a6bdd92cdc169bae ) and just reading before I start.
What are the differences between KDE Plasma and Hyprland and which one should I pick? Are they both capable with gaming? I see KDE Plasma is but this GitHub doesn't mention if Hyprland is.
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This kind of shit pisses me off.
>Well done! You downloaded the iso and installed it to a PC. Gold star for you.
I was wondering where retards like >>107975318 were coming from.
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>>107975261
A VM itself doesn't have a lot of overhead. It's just a 3%-5% CPU performance loss and in some cases a R/W performance loss. But a PCI passthrough of a GPU or a storage device results in no performance loss.
Using docker/podman really depends on your use case. As far as I'm aware the only benefit would be a slightly reduced startup time and memory usage. If you need GPU acceleration you'd still need to pass your GPU to docker/podman.
>>107975419
This doesn't help if the software you want isn't in your repos or if the repo only includes an outdated package version. Flatpak, snap, appimage and homebrew make things infinitely more convenient in most cases.
>>107975481
Also look into DistroShelf. It's a simplified GUI to manage distrobox environments. And Ptyxis which is a terminal which lets you switch between containers without having to manually run commands to do so (if you're feeling lazy).
>>107975563
The point of WINE is to avoid having to use a virtual machine. WINE runtime is much lighter than running Windows in a VM and it runs natively so it's GPU accelerated. Winboat doesn't have GPU passthrough yet afaik, and when it does get it your host will be unable to use the GPU at the same time. It's just a major waste of system resources.
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How do I make os-prober detect bootable btrfs subvolumes??
I have two distros inside a btrfs partition each inside of their own subvolume.
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>>107976354
Well it works, but only one of them appear in the grub menu at a time, I have to chroot and do
>grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
To make the other appear in the grub menu.
What I want is for both subvolumes to appear in the grub menu, I can probably make it work if I edit the grub.cfg file by hand but I would like to know if there's a better doing this
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>>107972561
>try HDR on linux.
>SDR games get autoHDR treatement by the KDE plasma desktop.
Cool, works pretty well.
My trouble is when I play games that has actual native HDR support, and I enable it. I get completely fucked results.
From crushed blacks+blown out highlights in one game(control)
to a completely washed out image in the other game(ori will of the wisps)
Best I can guess is that games with native HDR support don't communicate that to KDE plasma, it just treats literally everything as SDR input.
How do I fix this shit?
How do I turn off KDE plasma auto HDR function?
Also KDR plasma SDR brightness function affects all games, even native HDR games content.
So how the fuck can I tell KDE plasma to fuck off with it's inverse tone mapping and not do that for a specific game, it just treats all games as SDR and doesn't read the HDR signal coming to it, going "oh cool, I shouldn't tone map this in addition as well'.
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>>107976455
>KDE Linux is still in testing and considering switching to Fedora Atomic
Interesting. It would make sense considering not having the ability to layer packages makes the OS somewhat unusable.
>>107976459
What are you sperging out about?
>>107976525
>Avoid dependency on RedHat.
I really don't see why it would matter. It's not like Fedora is entirely controlled by RedHat. They're just the main sponsor and have a few people in the project. And it's not like RedHat isn't one of the biggest contributors to the Linux kernel itself. Not to mention SteamOS is already using RedHat-adjecent tech like Flatpak and Podman.
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I'm on bazzite.
Having an issue - my moue driver software was functional, however it is no longer functional. This is mainly due to reading the mouse as disconnected, despite the fact that I'm using said mouse to open it.
The installer is playing up and the installation wizard isn't displaying text (through wine, it is through a random protontricks prefix but I don't know if that will do a genuine install) so can't reinstall easily, anyone else ever have such an issue and was able to arrive at a resolution?
I imagine it's that the microsoft core fonts aren't on the wine prefix, however I'm having a bit of trouble sourcing them, as the option in settings isn't the best, and if anyone knows a good repository please share.
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>SteamOS
My guess is that Valve doesn't need whatever Fedora provides. SteamOS is only meant to be used on a single well defined computer. From the users point of view this doesn't make SteamOS an attractive option for anything else other than the Deck right now. It's same issue as with GNOME OS and Kalpa. They're not attractive to the user, one is for testing and one is too niche.
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>>107976738
>my moue driver software was functional
>through wine
I'm pretty sure you can't just "install a driver" through WINE. Unless you're only talking about some USB mouse config software. In which case you can probably install it through Bottles instead. It's much easier to manage prefixes there. Just create a new bottle and run the installer within it. And if you want to make sure you never lose that bottle/prefix you can easily back it up in the GUI.
As for fonts, that can also be installed inside Bottles. Simply go into Bottles->your_bottle->Dependencies then find the "allfonts" package and install it.
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>>107976731
If RedHat pulled out of Fedora it would be more irrelevant than Devuan. The only reason most Fedora contributors are there is because they want to build rep in the RedHat sphere. If they see Valve making tons of money off the back of Fedora, there's a solid chance they would start asking for money or pull another CentOS.
>kernel, flatpak, podman
They want everyone to use these because it increases their clout or undermines their competitors.
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>>107976501
The fix is to use the following environment variable:KWIN_DISABLE_TONEMAPPING=1
I haven't tried on a game by game basis, maybe I should. There's a fix soon for games like these. Basically these games use scRGB which is a big no no.
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I want to start using hyprland, I don't even care about ricing I want a black background and white letters, just simple and stuff that works, can anyone point me towards a guide or video or whatever that would build a basic yet complete hyprland installation?
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>>107976854
>USB mouse config software
Yeah, the download called it a driver which doesn't seem the correct name but I suppose I trusted the authority.
What I did was I added the exe for the installer to Steam as a game and ran it through proton that way, this worked but unfortunately it still says the mouse is DCd.
For whatever reason it seems Bazzite has stopped recognising it for what it is (some brand called Genesis)and is just calling it some random ass mouse in the settings so I can't use the config software.
Oddly this has fixed an issue where I couldn't control the system volume with the mouse buttons.
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>>107976909
That's an environment variable for KWin. It probably won't work on a case-by-case basis. You either have it enabled or don't.
>>107976501
Maybe try running the game nested in Gamescope and see if it handles things better.
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>>107976922
>an issue where I couldn't control the system volume with the mouse buttons.
There's that "Configure Extra Buttons" in the top right. I assume that could be used to map those buttons to actions/scripts.
>just calling it some random ass mouse in the settings so I can't use the config software.
Not sure what would cause this. Might be worth updating the OS and rebooting the PC. Or maybe even downgrading the OS to a version in which it recognized your mouse. Might also be worth checking your system logs to see if there's some USB or input related issues.
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I've been trying to unix philosophy max.
Is this the way?
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>>107977081
It's not one game specifically
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=509114
But they're at least trying to come up with something I guess. For now I'll just disable tonemapping because it is less of a headache and I actually get to use my monitor. If I wanted SDR, I'd use Cinnamon.
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>>107977108
You kind of need tonemapping for proper SDR on HDR though otherwise it'll look to bright or colours might be blown out, etc. You could easily make a keybinding to call kscreen-doctor to toggle it.
If the environment variable works for you though then keep it I guess.
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>>107977119
I switched from neovim to nano.
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Does that go against unix philosophy?
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>>107976722
Well nevermind, I figured out the solution, I needed to mount the subvolumes manually for them to be detected by os-prober. So just:sudo mount -o subvol=/distro1/@ /dev/sda5 /mnt/distro1
sudo mount -o subvol=/distro2/@ /dev/sda5 /mnt/distro2
And now os-prober detects both properly and writes a grub menu entry for each distro.
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>>107977053
>There's that "Configure Extra Buttons" in the top right. I assume that could be used to map those buttons to actions/scripts.
Nah it doesn't seem to read em.
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>Not sure what would cause this. Might be worth updating the OS and rebooting the PC.
Tried this ASAP (After jigging about the USBs of course), no dice. Don't think an update occurred around the time this happened either.
Not the biggest problem, albeit slightly annoying, it's still functional as the last config it was set to, I just can't edit it. Might just hope time caused the problem and time will fix it, at least for a while. Might wait and try plugging the mouse in on another device when the opportunity arises.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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>>107972561
So I'm trying to make a NFS share for multiple clients so that each will be able to modify/write/whatever in the share. Do I just make a new group, put the server's user in it, and then use user_squash or whatever in the exports so that all connected clients get squashed to the same user/group? What user/group should own the share in that case?
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Anyone else noticed tldr doesn't work anymore? tldr/tealdeer on Debian 12 just panics, tealdeer on Debian 13 throws this message up:Error: Could not update cache
Caused by:
0: Could not download tldr pages from https://tldr.sh/assets/tldr.zip
1: HTTP status client error (404 Not Found) for url (https://tldr.sh/assets/tldr.zip)
I can't even figure a way to change the url. If you're doing a fresh install you won't have any pages at all since the package doesn't even include any. You have to rely on updating from the site. Is this just a huge fuck up?
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>>107977255
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/haskell-tldr
Is this the one? Looks like it was removed from Trixie/testing/sid completely.
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>>107977255
Here on Devuan, using tealdeer and noticed this too, I dug into it and found that this was caused by a change that deprecated the old urls...
https://github.com/tldr-pages/tldr/pull/15862
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>>107977255
>>107977323
also read
https://github.com/tldr-pages/tldr/blob/main/CLIENT-SPECIFICATION.md
>Caution
>Prior to version 2.2, the client specification stated that clients MUST download archives from https://tldr.sh/assets. This method is now deprecated, and will be removed in December 2025. Clients that still use the old location will therefore stop working next year.
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>>107977296
I changed to tealdeer on Debian 13.
>>107977323
Well I guess that's another fucked package then. It's probably not going to be patched on Debian since it isn't a security issue. The way tealdeer downloads everything (all languages) is a bit stupid too. Should've had the pages in the package itself and then update it manually if necessary.
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>>107977369
You can update them manually if you wantcd ~/.cache/tealdeer/tldr-pages
wget https://github.com/tldr-pages/tldr/releases/latest/download/tldr.zip
unzip tldr.zip
rm tldr.zip
I tested this and it works, you could probably write a bash script to automate this then alias it to "tldr-update" or whatever, that's what i will do.
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Anons, so I found out today that basically smart tv’s unironically listen to us, geofencing, and don’t even get me started on the flock camera system thing.
This got me thinking- with something like Linux, can the government still access your information, see what’s going on on your screen etc? I mean surely Mint for example has some sort of backdoor, right? Is there any way around this or do we unironically just have to deal with it?
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What if it’s on home internet?
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I know that tails really wants keep their system as basic as possible, but this is retarded
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>>107978235
yeah they themselves note that Gnome's password manager fucking sucks
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>>107978257
https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/issues/19136
basically they don't like packaging Qt
in fact one of their goals for 7.5 is to remove Qt
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>>>>>>>No password generator
what the fuck, ebassi?
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>>107978229
decided to check this shitware before Tails commits a grave mistake
>"functional" (gay) title bar
>database is called "safe" [sic]
>you can't view folders as a tree hierarchy
>there is a password generator, but it sucks
>keybinds use Shift (e.g. shift+ctrl+c to copy password) for some fucking reason
>no way to open an URL without clicking on an entry first
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fuck this garbage
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How to reasonably/best use zram?
Does it really help, especially on stuff like old devices or low ram SBC?
Do I understand correctly that it cannot be combined with zswap? Which one would be more useful for extreme situations like 1gb pi?
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>>107978909
Yes it definitely helps, as it basically gives you more RAM virtually then you'd have otherwise to make it seem snappier.
If you're going to use zram then you don't need zswap because zram does the same thing. Just set the zram size to like 1.5/2GB with swappiness set to 100, using something like zram-generator to create it. It'll make that Pi much more responsive.
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>>107979229
sometimes it's recommended to set swappiness above 100 for zram, as zram swap tends to be faster than reading from disc (swappiness over 100 means to prefer swapping over dropping i/o cache). on an rpi with slow sd card storage, this is especially true, you might want even more than the often-mentioned 133 value
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>>107979332
also- i'd recommend also setting up an early-oom daemon, unless you have a very conservative zram device size, as how much ram can be compressed varies depending what's in it. i often see 2-3x compression, but in some cases less, to get the most out of it you will want to assume it will compress a lot, but if it doesn't, then you might run out of ram entirely, which is where an early-oom daemon can be useful (kills off memory hogs before you run out of ram so you don't have to deal with linux's own oom system, which tends to try way too hard to keep going for a home system, most home users opt to reboot their system vs. waiting on that)
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What's a good USB WiFi adapter with in-kernel support? I just pulled one out of a drawer that I thought was AC1200 but I'm only getting 40mbps on 5GHz for some reason. Not sure if it's a software or hardware limitation, but if I can get something faster for like $30 or less anyway then I think I'll just do that.
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>>107973647
"GNU+Linux" is genuinely a meme from the interjection pasta, GNU/Linux is said fairly often (I believe Debian officially calls itself that in several places including the GRUB menu), you wouldn't say GNU/Emacs you would say GNU Emacs if anything. You're that I don't typically hear "GNU Emacs", but I *do* hear "GNU nano", "GNU screen" and a few other things. It's also commonly used to differentiate two versions of common software, like BSD, GNU, and busybox may all have different implementations of tar or cal and the arguments available aren't identical.
If you are in an FSF-adjacent circle you generally say GNU/Linux to refer to the full OS install of GNU and the kernel known as Linux, but you'd just say Linux when talking about the kernel, probably.
t. GNU Guix System user
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>>107978909
If you don't want swap to touch non-volatile storage ever, use zram. If you're going to need physical swap anyway, use zswap.
>Which one would be more useful for extreme situations like 1gb pi?
Depends on how shitty the storage is and how much memory you need. Practically zram taps out at 2x physical memory if you don't like random allocation failures. Which for interactive applications is about all you can ask for either way.
>>107979229
>If you're going to use zram then you don't need zswap because zram does the same thing
zswap is actually a layer in the block cache in front of swap, where zram is a compressed ramdisk acting as swap. The former is slightly faster since you're doing an end-run around the swap code path in most cases.
If you use both at the same time, you end up in a decompress / compress thrash cycle, which wastes a ton of CPU and doesn't save memory.
>>107979332
Corollary to this is you don't want exaggerated swappiness values with zswap. Because it isn't swap.
>>107979354
>i'd recommend also setting up an early-oom daemon, unless you have a very conservative zram device size
OOM killer is required in all cases.
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>>107979387
https://github.com/morrownr/USB-WiFi/blob/main/home/USB_WiFi_Adapters_ that_are_supported_with_Linux_in-ke rnel_drivers.md
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>>107979479
Thanks!
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>>107976909
Can you elaborate on this?
I tried using the very same setting, but I failed to get it working correctly. How do you do it?
>>107976933
you saying if I disable KDE plasma "autohdr" then it will disable the HDR as well?
I am fine disabling the auto hdr system wide for one speciifc game I want to play.
I just need this shit fixed.
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>>107979410
GNU tends to put extensions on their versions of software (the most famous ones being called bashisms) so GNU screen gets said to make sure people don't use some other, potentially incompatible, implementation. Not sure about nano, but emacs or bash only have the GNU implementation so no need to specify.
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>>107979524
>I tried using the very same setting, but I failed to get it working correctly. How do you do it?
You need to add it as an environment variable system wide and restart. You can't use it on a single game unfortunately.
Also this does not disable HDR, otherwise it'd be pointless. This disables tonemapping SDR content.
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>>107977134
>You kind of need tonemapping for proper SDR on HDR though otherwise it'll look to bright or colours might be blown out, etc.
The point is -with- tonemapping enabled, the colors on these games look like you set the saturation slider to 700% and the contrast to something really low.
I'm not trying to get a game in SDR to look correct in HDR. I'm trying to play a game that supports HDR to look not vomit inducing on HDR. HDR has to stay on for HDR to function, I would assume.
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my package handler ends up looking like this anyways on linux
how to i manage not installing every little thing
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>>107980638
some package managers have options like "install recommends" which in some cases are set by default
But package bloat is just space. Bigger number. A lot of these packages are usually a bunch of kilobytes. You should be more concerned about flatpaks.
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>>107978315
GParted is pretty much an industry standard.
>>107980879
>Are immutable distros really worth the hype?
Yes.
>from the little info I read about it, it seems like it has even less permissions than windows
Depends on the implementation. Fedora Atomic is pretty much the same as a regular distro. But some more custom distros like SteamOS and GnomeOS are much more "locked down".
>>107980894
Actually the opposite is true. Servers already achieved immutability a decade ago by using docker images, and before that by using virtual machines. You don't need an immutable OS when a docker image or a VM snapshot achieves the same thing. It's actually the desktops that benefit from immutability the most.
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>>107980149
>I'm not trying to get a game in SDR to look correct in HDR. I'm trying to play a game that supports HDR to look not vomit inducing on HDR. HDR has to stay on for HDR to function, I would assume.
Ah, that makes sense. The tonemapping shouldn't be doing anything in that case. The metadata should just get passed through to the monitor.
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>>107980928
It's useful even if you never use the tiling and splits and just use it as a glorified version of GNU's screen.
It keeps programs running even if your Xorg or Wayland compositor dies and you can ssh into the machine and attach to it.
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>>107981305
Or maybe you're not a pedo but you're a whistleblower who has sensitive documents you don't want other applications to access, etc.
Yes, for a normal person this can be considered overkill and that is why Flatseal exists to tweak these permissions (or System Settings in KDE which has a Flatpak KCM)
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>>107981313
Or maybe you're neither of these things but just don't want other applications having access to your family pictures, etc.
This is common on Android, for example. No app has unfettered access to all your pictures without asking first.
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>>107981291
Are there good jewtube guides that don't assume I'm retarded or is the best way to learn to just read the documentation? I don't really want all the nitty gritty, just quick tiling for keeping an eye in two folders while moving files or similar.
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>>107981190
I did consider giving it a try since I heard about origami Linux, and I'm still not settled on a distro just yet.
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>>107981421
Absolutely not. Sandboxing is something that should always be there by default but the user should have a way to opt out of it per application.
Besides, Flatpak being inconvenient compared to the Android and iOS permission models and the surrounding UI/UX has nothing to do with immutable operating systems.
>>107981296
This has nothing to do with immutable operating systems. You're talking about Flatpak specifically.
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>>107981468
>You're talking about Flatpak specifically
And avoiding Flatpaks is impractical on immutable distros.
>>107981468
>Sandboxing is something that should always be there by default
Why?
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>>107981521
If the user had to ask for a sandbox then they never would. It only works on Android, for example, because the user has no other choice. You're getting it whether you like it or not your only choices are to approve the permission or deny it.
Obviously, this is GNU/Linux though so you do get that choice. Nothing is forced on you.
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>>107981521
>Why?
It's a basic security and privacy feature that exists on every modern OS. Linux is effectively 2 decades behind in security compared to any other widely used OS.
>avoiding Flatpaks is impractical on immutable distros.
You can avoid them just fine if you want. Nobody is forcing you to use Flatpaks.
Either way the solution isn't to ignore the existence of Flatpak, but rather improve the user experience provided by it. On other operating systems (aside from Windows) you actually get prompted to enable a missing permission when it's needed. If an average Linux DE did the same for Flatpaks then this issue goes away entirely. Either that or more lenient default permissions.
In any case this >>107981296 is incorrect. Pretty much every Flatpak I've ever used could access external drives just fine. At worst only drag-drop doesn't work by default, which is easily fixed if you need it.
>>107981536
>It only works on Android, for example, because the user has no other choice
Works fine on macOS and Windows as well.
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>>107981604
>It's a basic security and privacy feature that exists on every modern OS
Any sandboxing that is actually necessary will be done by the application itself (eg browser sandboxing) without having to rely on container crap.
>You can avoid them just fine if you want. Nobody is forcing you to use Flatpaks.
Are you recommending people to go full Snap or AppImage instead?
>which is easily fixed
Shouldn't have to fix it in the first place; with native packages you don't have to.
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>>107981640
Do you think people willingly install viruses on their system or something?
It's easy to quip, "Oh, just don't do that". If Linux ever gets popular then this attitude will be a real problem like it is on Windows.
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>>107981652
And your solution is to force newcomers into clunky operating systems to protect them from unrealistic edge cases? They are already on Windows and have already accepted this risk, and are doing fine; when you bring them over to Linux, you should not be doing everything in your power to convince them that Linux is inferior (you are doing exactly this).
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>>107981690
Windows has anti-virus. On Linux we know that's snakeoil though. If clicking a checkbox to allow access to external drives is too clunky then the solution is to make the UX better. Not get rid of the sandboxing entirely.
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>>107981690
All operating systems are clunky. But I can't see why you think a normie would find Flatpak more clunky than having to deal with distro packages, lack of cross-distro compatibility, 3rd party repos, more common system breakage, etc..
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>>107981734
>having to deal with distro packages
A normie doesn't know what that is because he just downloads programs from Discover.
>lack of cross-distro compatibility
A normie doesn't know what that is because he just downloads programs from Discover.
>3rd party repos
FlatHub is a 3rd party repo, lmao
>more common system breakage
Maybe on Arch
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>>107981743
>they just have Windows Defender running in the background but never manually scan files
Which is fine when the snakeoil works because it will automatically intercept files before they are even executed and quarantine problematic applications.
Nobody, and I really do mean nobody, is running anti-virus snakeoil with realtime protection on their Linux boxes. All of the smart people that helped to build this operating system know that it is bullshit and you should use a proper sandbox instead.
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>>107981961
Dodgy system calls are not viruses or malware though.
LSMs like AppArmor and SELinux do somewhat help to limit exposing sensitive files though (for example, AppArmor prevents my browser from accessing my private SSH keys) but only somewhat because a policy needs to be written and hard coded for what should be protected and what should be permissible and distributions policies are mostly generic.
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My lab partner and I set up and maintain pretty much of all of the programs hands on infrastructure at our local uni and we have a lot of autonomy in how we set up the lab.
I currently have an entry-level understanding of many debian distros, and I would like to learn more. The way I usually go about learning is by finding a realistic project that involves the system I am curious about, then doing said project so that I am experiencing it in a practical way (e.x. I did a distributed Wazuh SIEM deployment on three Ubuntu Servers to force myself to get comfortable with the CLI. But by the end of the project I also had an operable understanding of systemd and certificate distribution). I found that I really value the indirect exposure I get that comes with this kind of learning, but the more I want to dial in on a given system the more insight I also need to properly plan a project.
I know that if I just dive right into a complex project I will inevitably pick things up along the way, which is fine. But the joy of Linux for me is that it allows me to understand a given topic online by first reading about it, then literally interact with the system to observe the actual thing happening. Linux also gives me everything I need to fix a problem which makes it invaluable for learning.
My question for anon is what they think a good project would be. I know I would benefit a lot from gaining a deeper understanding of how systemd works and I'd really love a project that exposes me to it in a way that Wazuh exposed me to systemctl and cert management (indirectly). Bonus pts if there is also extensive, authoritative, documentation on the project / involved systems.
The project I am working on right now is a simple docker-k8s deployment for a local wikipedia mirror. I am having all my hosts run Alpine so I can get a feel for OpenRC as I think that'll provide good context to sysctl before going back.
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>>107981758
>Discover
Discover only lists Flatpaks on some distros so it's perfectly fine then.
>FlatHub is a 3rd party repo, lmao
You know exactly what's being discussed here, anon.
>Maybe on Arch
Ubuntu, Mint, Debian also often break if 3rd party (DEB) repos are used.
>>107981743
>So does Linux
No it doesn't. Most Linux distros don't even come with a firewall enabled let alone with an AV. And the AVs on Linux are significantly worse than Defender.
>they just have Windows Defender running in the background
Which is at least something and more than enough to protect them from most malware.
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>>107981961
SELinux is just a language to describe execution flow restrictions. Fedora/RH does almost nothing with SELinux for desktop programs because it creates too many 'permission errors'. It really shines containing breaches in system services like Bluetooth, wifi, print sharing, VPN, ...
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>>107982052
>On immutables and Arch-based distros, yeah
Great, so normie distros are fine.
>Googling "Linux anti-virus" will yield multiple anti-virus programs
None are pre-installed like Defender is. Most only scan for Windows malware. There's less Linux malware fingerprints in the AV databases.
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>>107982065
>normie distros are fine
Lmao since when was Arch a normie distro? Fedora and Ubuntu-based distros are what normies use.
>>107982086
The AppStream metadata for Arch is borked, so it doesn't work with Discover
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>>107982123
>since when was Arch a normie distro
From what I can see a bunch of normies have started using CachyOS. And Manjaro was popular among normies just a few years ago. Arch itself might not be a normie distro, but the most popular distros that spawned from it are.
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>>107977104
I like nano, but vi seems more unix-y to me
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>>107982476
I'm a ZFS guy, so perhaps I'm misunderstanding how snapshots work on Btrfs. My assumption was that if you snapshot in the root of the drive, you snapshot the entire content of the drive in a single snapshot, which seems excessive and undesirable.
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>>107982490
The kernel driver is tied to the kernel. Only way to update the AMDGPU component is to update the kernel.
The firmware usually does not matter which version you have beyond sometimes the newer firmware fixing or regressing things.
For the user-space components that provide OpenGL and Vulkan, etc, you can install mesa-git from the AUR which works fine.
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>>107982524
Nah btrfs doesnt do recursive snapshots and some people recommend making /var/tmp /var/log /var/cache subvols within the root subvol so that their contents don't get carried over to the snapshot (/var/tmp might not be necessary). You might also want to turn /var into an @subvol such as @var since the majority of the files in there dont really need to be snapshotted or backed up.
So what you could do is have:
distro1/@root
distro1/@var
distro2/@root
distro2/@var
@home
@snapshots
I'm not sure if you need to turn distro1 and distro2 themselves into subvols either only each @root and @var would need to be a subvol.
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>>107982573
So then what is implied by "one @snapshot subvol in the root of the btrfs drive"?
>>107982572
>@snapshots
Right, I feel like this is where my confusion is stemming from. ZFS doesn't need a separate dataset for storing snapshots. Each snapshot is a property/attribute of the dataset itself.
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>>107982524
Basically what >>107982573 said.
You will have a structure like:| /
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Then you boot with root=subvol=/@my_os and to make a snapshot you just snapshot /@my_os so then you might have a structure like:| /
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>>107982627
This would be if you're doing it manually of course. If you use something like snapper then you'll have a nicer structure with everything in a snapshots directory and with metadata for each snapshot (containing a date, whether it's a pre/post snapshot, a description, etc)
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>>107982612
>So then what is implied by "one @snapshot subvol in the root of the btrfs drive"?
All your snapshots are stored in a directory. People usually make that directory a subvol itself so that its easy to mount. The snapshots themselves are also just directories inside that directory same with subvols they're just directories that are marked as a subvol by the filesystem. The way ZFS handles subvols and snapshots are different to how BTRFS does it.
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>>107982648
>All your snapshots are stored in a directory. People usually make that directory a subvol itself so that its easy to mount. The snapshots themselves are also just directories inside that directory same with subvols they're just directories that are marked as a subvol by the filesystem.
Just reading this makes me queasy. What a mess. Any actual advantage in doing snapshots this way compared to ZFS?
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>ZFS doesn't need a separate dataset for storing snapshots. Each snapshot is a property/attribute of the dataset itself.
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>>107982855
so it's more like how windows' volume shadow copy works? it's not exposed to the VFS like btrfs snapshots are?
how do you work with them? i like being able to just browse to a snapshot directory and copy out anything i want with any tool
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>>107980638
if you're on debian based distro then create
>/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99no-bloat
and put this in it:APT::Install-Recommends "false";
APT::Install-Suggests "false";
APT::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant "false";
APT::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant "false";
Acquire::Languages { "none"; }
This will make apt install only hard dependencies, and also make apt autoremove a package if it's not a hard dependency of any manually installed package
Also do
>apt-mark minimize-manual
to minimize the amount of manually installed packages.
I also figured that you could mark all "essential" or "required" packages as auto safely, since apt will never attempt to (auto)remove an essential package unless you give it the --allow-remove-essential flag:dpkg-query -Wf '${Priority} ${Package}\n' | grep '^required' | sed 's/required //' | sudo xargs apt-mark auto
To see all manually installed packages use:apt-mark showmanual
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>>107982956
>how do you work with them?
Well, I don't need to worry about where and how to store them, so that already makes things easier to me.
They're listed as children of a dataset, they cannot be mounted as they're not datasets in their own right, only references.
You can make them "real" either by copying the snapshot to another location, or by rolling back, in which case it overwrites the current state.
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>>107983024
You can use an environment variable called WINEPREFIX which points to the prefix. Why are you retarded?
>>107983053
Just another retard with inane "advice".
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>>107983024
Because it's not a wine problem. Make a prefix somewhere, make it owned by a common group (say users), set default group ACL, make sure all your login users are in the group, and set the WINEPREFIX to that in /etc/profile.
>>107983181
They're heavily based on the exact path you set it to you fucking retard.
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>>107975442
My fellow EndeavourOS Chad. I got in on my laptop and it just werks. Which is amusing, because I installed it in the expectation that it, being an Arch fork, would break often so I would be forced to learn more about Linux.
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>>107972561
Based edition
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>>107983490
No, it doesn't break on updates that don't involve manual intervention. A lot of the manual intervention being neglected isn't gonna break it either. It breaks if you use the -Sy flag when installing packages for some reason.
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>>107983024
It needs to writable. Bottles had plans for something like this where you'd overlay any writes but doesn't look like it went anywhere yet. I made something similar with bwrap where I had one read only prefix and then overlaid changes, but I quickly realised the benefit of doing this was minimal compared to the complexity it introduced. The overlays started bloating close to the size of a full prefix.
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>>107983667
-Sy is not a pacman flag you should ever use.
If you're installing a package, you should use -S or -Syu
Why would you use a flag that does bad things? It's like using Syyu. It exists but why would you ever use it if you don't know why you're using it? This is user error, nobody with a clue ever tells you to install your packages using -Sy.
>>107983624
Any update on Arch which doesn't involve manual intervention, so the vast majority of them. Do you have issue with understanding English or something?
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I've been playing around with Linux for a bit, and I noticed a lot of my games seem to run better over Proton than natively. Is there any particular reason for this? Should I just have all my games run through the Proton compatibility layer?
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>>107983810
>Are you comparing Linux native games to Windows versions of same game on Proton?
Yeah, pretty much. So far, everything I've ran has ran better over Proton. Actually, is there a way to force every game to run over Proton? I have to set it manually for each game, so a way to have it run over Proton automatically would be nice.
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>>107983731
>No, it doesn't break
any update can break anything on any distro. this is especially true for Arch.
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>>107984418
I can see the utility in being able to actually inspect and interact with the contents of a snapshot, without having to clone/restore it first. However, I still think I prefer the logic of snapshots being just an abstract element inside an existing dataset, that don't really "exist" until/unless you need them.
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>>107983366
Although, do you really want 1000+ users to share a Wine prefix on a network? What are you even trying to do?
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>>107984959
Jesus. Wine prefix = virtual windows installation. It also stores specific wine settings.
It is not tied to a specific user.
You are just utterly clueless, perhaps read some documentation.
You can also run wine binaries (or replace them with something else) from anywhere you like.
By setting up couple of environment variables...
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>>107984959
Have you even tried what happens in your prefix (specific with WINEPREFIX) under drive_c/users and use a different user?
No you haven't because you don't even use wine but just waste other people's time.
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>>107985010
>It is not tied to a specific user
Have you read through the wine .reg before, fucker? Don't call me clueless when you are so confidently a stupid cunt. LOOK. And when a wine prefix is first created, it even creates a folder with your account's username, containing symlinks to specific paths (you guessed it: folders under your account).
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>>107983919
Linux is hard to target with closed source products by design, so it's hard to complain. wine is just a stable ABI for games at this point. It has the neat side effect of denying Microsoft control over their own programming interfaces. While studios won't target wine specifically, neither will they give up 5% sales by requiring APIs that don't work on wine.
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>>107985066
Not him but I believe you can edit all of that to point to somewhere else.
What are you trying to do though? You still didn't explain why you need 1000+ users on a network all to access the exact same Wine prefix. This is such a stupid problem to have.
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>>107985046
>and use a different user?
Are you asking me to log in to another account on Linux, and attempt to use the same wine prefix? Because wine isn't going to automatically create a new user folder in the prefix for this other account.
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>>107985161
>You still didn't explain why you need 1000+ users on a network all to access the exact same Wine prefix
Why do 1000+ users on any network need access to the same programs?
>This is such a stupid problem to have
No it isn't? If what I am looking to achieve isn't possible, then that means Wine deployments are NOT able to be automated. If what I am looking to achieve isn't possible, then it means manually tinkering with paths and installing applications et cetera by hand for all users. Fuck that! I wish I could just put a wine prefix (or a symlink to one) in /etc/skel that will do the work itself every time a new user is created.
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>>107985273
This is what Copilot slop thinks by the way:
https://copilot.microsoft.com/shares/dee94YqCkbenHxFwhZNVe
Its idea of using overlay fs is a good one if you can make that work.
Have a read-only Wine prefix shared on the network
Overlay fs with that share as the bottom layer and somewhere else writeable on the system
Edit any hardcoded paths (e.gfind ~/.wine -type f -exec sed -i "s/THE_WINE_USER/$USER/g" {} \;)
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>>107983366
You're not because only one wineserver process can use the same prefix. You'd have to rig something where it runs in a container with a filesystem overlay, or overlay mounts on each machine.
>MANUAL work per user
If you can't AUTOMATE this kind of work, you have no business administrating 1k+ users. It's not my fault your retarded ass took a job it wasn't remotely qualified for.
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>>107980117
>Also this does not disable HDR, otherwise it'd be pointless. This disables tonemapping SDR content.
Excellent. That's what I need I think.
>You need to add it as an environment variable system wide and restart.
How do I do this? Explain it step by step as if you were guiding a monkey.
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>>107985398
There's multiple ways to set environment variables but the easiest is probably to set it in /etc/environment since it probably won't matter if this variable is set for all users.
Just don't forget to undo it once KDE fixes the bug.
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>>107984959
Not the answer you're looking for but arch does have a few packages on the aur for installing wine programs system-wide so you might find something from there that could help.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wine_package_guidelines
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>>107985361
>wine is specifically designed to be non-deployable (the developers have stated this multiple times)
>this means I'm a retard who should not be an admin
Sure, I could make a script that creates a .wine folder for all users. Sure, I could make a script that changes the paths for all the wine symlinks to be applicable for the given user. Sure, I could make a script that seds into the wine registries to be applicable for the given user. And sure, I could make a script that runs all the aforementioned scripts during account creation.
But the question is why the fuck would I want to do that? You're calling me stupid because I don't enjoy hacky solutions? People unsurprisingly like it when their tools just fucking work and I want some confidence that this shit isn't just going to break. If people on the network need to use Windows programs, that functionality should be just as deployable as any Linux program.
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>>107985450
And don't go thinking scripts are "hacky solutions" either. You should change your mindset. Even on Windows administrators will often run CMD batch scripts or PowerShell scripts on login.
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I've installed Linux for the first time of my life a few days ago on my second ssd. I used Windows all my life since XP. I'm not super tech savy and my usage is extremely basic (mostly gaming, movies and writing) so I never bothered with Windows though it became more and more annoying over the years.
I picked Mint because it seemed it was the most straightforward and stable. Bazzite was the obvious choice but I trusted Mint more since I heard of it for so long.
The install process was straightforward and easy. Mint is pretty much a mix between older android versions and Windows 7 I would say.
I was surprised to see that not only the game I was currently playing on Steam worked well but also that all clouds were transferred. Another pleasant surprise was that all the files from my windows drive are still readable. I had a backup and didn't even have to use it thanks to that.
There are a few softwares that I miss from windows, such as crystaldisk and AMD Adrenalin (I run amd cpu and gpu). I found alternatives but I don't like them. I've yet to try older pc games and emulation
Also the multi screen setup is plain awful. I haven't found a way to have the taskbar on my second screen, and by that I mean duplicate it. I can't get my monitor to 180hz like it supposed to and fullscreen games generally are a bit annoying as they tend to start on the wrong screen no matter what I do. I was a bit surprised to see that the middle button was actually used to paste and not scroll. I could go on. So a lot of little annoying things, but no big issue so far. I did a snapshot just in case.
Any general advice? I'm not huge on customization and I don't really want to spend too much time bothering with that but any advice is still welcome.
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>>107985613
>Also the multi screen setup is plain awful.
Blame Mint and X11
>I can't get my monitor to 180hz like it supposed to
If you are using nvidia to have to makke sure the correct drivers and installed and running, run in the terminal
nvidia-smi
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>qt5-webengine
What's the best way to update this shit?
Compilation takes ages and slows my PC and I have a decent PC. Should I pass some flag to paru in order to take full system resources and speed it up, or should I do something else?
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Trying to install on a new computer using live usb. Upon trying to launch the live environment, the screen goes black for a second then kicks me right back to the grub menu, no error message or anything. Any of you know what might be wrong?
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>install distro
>start to feel "dirty" after a few months of installing various packages and dependencies
>get urge to reinstall
>repeat process
Why am I like this...
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>>107986150
I used to be like this. Eventually I just installed Ubuntu with the extended option and left it as that, just left it stock with no tinkering or further modifying or installing unless absolutely necessary, for the sake of my time and personal well-being. And now I don’t do that purity purge reinstall thing any more. Sometimes too much choice and power is a burden and a responsibility that is not necessary. I found what was best for me was to remove that sort of thing from my domain, to externalise that hassle.
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>>107986321
https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/thunderbird/ -/issues/16#note_373212
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>>107985807
For the most part. But the more you stick to an underlying corpo tech stack the better a distro is (unironically) and the less of a hobby distro it is. That would mean Ubuntu or RHEL/Fedora as a base, KDE or GNOME (Wayland), systemd, Snap or Flatpak, etc.
>>107986393
Yes, because GNOME supports Wayland. Multiscreen support is better on anything that uses GNOME or KDE. So Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Zorin, CachyOS+KDE/GNOME, Bazzite, etc.
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I’ve contemplated a /clg/ - Corporate Linux General or something, focussing on the stability and quality of corporate backed Linux distros as productive everyday drivers that just work. I sincerely believe the growth of Linux computing depends on corporate centralisation and the implied accountability/reliability that would provide. I’m not sure if >we are ready for that discussion yet.
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>>107986640
‘Fun’ manifests in all sorts of ways, and not every tech discussion need revolve around how ‘fun’ things are. At any rate, the tinkerers and freebros would nuke such a general anyway, so I guess it’s moot. My point and perspective remains though.
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>>107986698
It really depends on the end-user. For the hobbyist tinkerer, you have a strong case. For the normie Windows refugee, for example, perhaps not. A case could be made that Linux is no longer the sole domain of tinkerers and computer wizzes, and that we daresay may need to change our perspectives on what it means to use Linux computing systems.
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>>107986541
>focussing on the stability and quality of corporate backed Linux distros as productive everyday drivers that just work
/fglt/ is primarily a thread for people into ricing, tinkering, minimalism or distro hopping. This is not a place for discussing distributions that "just work".
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>>107986468
Which distro do you recommend me then? I'm >>107985613
Should I switch to Bazzite? I've been hesitant because they seem relatively newer but I really have a basic usage.
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>>107987516
If you just want the most "works out of the box" experience then use Fedora with GNOME, and I'm saying this as someone who hates both Fedora and GNOME with passion.
Eventually you will either settle with Fedora or you will learn Linux and install Gentoo some day.
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>>107987605
Thanks. Well I'll look into Fedora then. I hope the multi screen works well this time because this really was my main point of contention. Everything else was pretty enjoyable and not having windows bloat thrown at your face was refreshing.
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>>107987516
Aurora or Bluefin. They're Fedora but with proprietary drivers and codecs included and a bunch more things set up for you already.
Or if you're a gamer (I assume you are since you're looking into Bazzite) then Bazzite would be the best choice. Either that or CachyOS.
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>>107983144
so you can't just go into them with a file manager and pull a file out? run find on them to see which snapshot has a file you want? sound inconvenient. i don't need to worry about where to to put them either, that's what tools like snapper are for
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>>107988040
meant to quote >>107984925
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>>107986698
>Debian
My debian 13 home server runs unbound and the fucking shit chokes every few days until I restart the service while it works just fine on arch. It's not the only issue I have either, the machine has a realtek NIC on it that performs fine on arch but can't max out its bandwidth on debian. I have little respect for debian and it continues to dwindle.
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