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These stickys are mostly copypasta, /pcbg/ couldn't organize itself if it tried.
Assless chaps are no longer mandatory.

>News & Rumors
Memory situation unlikely to get better until at least 2027
New DLSS presets using DLSS 4.5, M and L (specifically for ultra-performance). Performance hit consistently significant on Turing and Ampere GPUs, potential for issues on ada and low end blackwell
6x and dynamic framegen coming in the spring
G-Sync Pulsar
ARC B390
PSU and CPU cooler prices may rise up to 10% soon


>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/

A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!
Say No To Bullying ITT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwatnrbwEnQ

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Here is my current pc build. Please help me AMDify my build so I can swap to linux.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DLX9jn

>>108033589
Also I'm looking to upgrade my gpu, pls help. I don't need anything too recent

>>108033589
A 9070 or 9070XT will whip that GTX cards buttocks

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looking to upgrade. suggestions? My budget is maximum

>>108033649
RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell

>>108033662
Im not looking to spend that much on a gpu

>>108033589
5800XT
9060XT/9070/9070XT (whatever res and frame rate you wanna gayme at)
another kit of 16gb 3200mhz

>>108033649
why do you feel the need to upgrade

>>108033683
eh I was just curious. I dont really need to do anything. And the only game I play that demands graphics is Elden Ring, which runs okay anyway. So youre right.

>>108033683
12gb of vram

>>108033534
It's still designed in Germany according to German standards. With the Thermalright products, you get what you pay for (which is to say the draw of the hat as to the quality as is usual for China).
>>108033465
Dust and wires? Why would this cause such an unpleasant noise profile? It doesn't speak well for the Phantom Spirit as a product reliability-wise when even in the glazing reviews that big channels gave it (while neglecting the Pure Rock Pro 3) still mention the quality control issue with the fans and their unpleasant noise profile.

I would also not trust that simply swapping over to be quiet! or Noctua fans would solve the issue due to heatsinks being designed around proprietary company fans. Even the Noctua fans perform worse than the stock fans on the Thermalright cooler.

The Pure Rock Pro 3 here can be theorized as a safer purchase quality-wise than the Phantom Spirit 120. Especially if you are buying a Pure Base 600, it seems like madness! The Pure Base 600 and the Pure Rock Pro 3 is such an obvious synergy! Especially since you get 4 Pure Wings fans out of the combination instead of dubious Chinese fans tainting the noise profile of your be quiet! case.

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What about my cpu

>>108033498
German brands may be late to market but it is with good reason, there much more thought and research/development that goes into German products.

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>>108033753
es ist vorbei

>>108033703
You could get an x3d or even just one with more cores/threads for stuff that might use it. Your build already looks fine though.

>>108033753
on a 5800x3d which obviously runs hot, i have a PS with budget line nogtua fans
the high pitch noise kicks in around 1200rpm and gets annoying around 1400
To put that into perspective, my fan curve doest reach 1200rpm until 90°c on the hotspot,
900rpm in gaming which is inaudible.
Meanwhile aio fags have that high pitch noise 24/7 and the 3x80mm on my gpu are ten times worse

>>108033699
>Dust and wires? Why would this cause such an unpleasant noise profile?
Never seen a smokers/vapers home? their dust is like sticky tar.

>>108033551
Is ram cheap now? Looking to build a server.

>>108033951
>smokers/vapers home

OP here, have serviced many nicotine-filled gear. It's gross. >>108033551

>>108033789
KAPITULIEREN NIEMALS

>>108033551
when should memory prices go back to normal or will it ever happen?

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>>108033938
>the high pitch noise kicks in around 1200rpm and gets annoying around 1400
Have you tried this? People claim it is not turbulence as much as some kind of installation error and that padding fixes it.

Is it still feasible to make a build with new parts for a 600W PSU?

>>108033699
I put my old Noctua case fans in my new PS 120 SE, it didn't really improve the temps much but the sound at high rpms is much more pleasant.

>>108033551
>990 Pro (Windows)
Why only Windows?

>>108034038
the what

Phantom Spirit 120 buyers can rest easy, it performs much better than the Pure Rock Pro 3 in many real world scenarios.

This review also has a good noise comparison for the fans. But for high performance CPUs especially AMD CPUs, this cooler is NOT capable of handling them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12S_vPc6bX0

>>108034077
They buggered the firmware and it has problems in Linux.

Anons I'm FIRED UP!

>Ordered a "restocking" PNY 5060 Ti Overclocked 16Gb Dual Fan at 450€ MSRP right before HUB video about 16Gb being phased out for now.
>Price instantly start creeping up despite half the stuff being out of stock already and what was actually stocked starts to disappear.
>A week goes, no restock but I contact PNY Europe to know when the next wave is going to hit the warehouse and they explain to me how fucked I am.
>Cancel the order and cope with a new PC case.
>A week goes by and I can't let it go so I keep an eye on prices climbing ever up up up and stock ever going low low low.
>Start to google some stupid shit like "Inno3D 5060 Ti"
>Find an underdog online retailer.
>Out of Inno3D but still have "in stock" Asus Dual 5060 Ti OC 16Gb at the 500€ MSRP!
>I pout a bit because I'll end up paying 500€ for an Asus when I should have paid 450€ for a PNY.
>I give a quick Google check and the Asus runs noticeably cooler and more silent.
>I fire up the debit card and after more than two weeks of bullshit I finally own a 5060 Ti 16Gb! On paper.

Let's get real: a week will pass and when haggled this minor retailer will confess they don't have any stock but are quite certain they'll have a shipment in "two more weeks"™.
But tonight it doesn't matter. Because tonight... tonight WE CELEBRATE!!! 5060 Ti 16Gb secured at local MSRP boys! DOOT DOOT! Thank you Mr. Skeltal for this never ending ride.

>>108034201
Why not a 5070?

>>108034252
No 12pins for me thank you Mr Shekelberg.

Now that black friday and christmas is long gone, is there any other time of year that is typically decent to buy components?

>>108034201
Hope it works out!

>>108034281
12pins or 12gigs from mr shekelstein?

>>108034320
If you live in Florida they have tax free days during Back to School time on computer parts.

Nothing I want to play honestly with GTA Shit being delayed again. I am diving into an UNC hobby now

>>108034389
What's your unc hobby

>>108034389
Make your own game.

>>108034032
This is the new normal

>>108034340
Thanks anon. I sure hope too.

>>108034348
12pins for 12gigs is the best Mr. Shekelmann can do. This deal is killing him already.

>ryzen 5 1600
>gtx 1060 6gb
looking to upgrade
thinking something like
>ryzen 7 7800x3d
>5060 ti, maybe 5070

Is this is a substantial enough upgrade with decent cost efficiency? or can I aim much higher for the general price range

>>108033662
I will get one when it's "on sale".

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Thoughts?

>>108034320
late spring and summer

>>108034320
aliexpress anniversary sales

>>108034565
Used one for years, it's fine

>>108034193
>990 Pro
>buggered on Linux
Could you be more specific about that? I'm running some 990 Pro drives in a few different systems, including those on Linux. I don't think I have come across any fatal issues, but they are all running up-to-date firmware.

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so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the AMDrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.

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>>108034855

>>108034837
He means the speeds, it's a known issue. If you can run some benchmarks on yours post here, the troon chimped out last time somebody mentioned it.

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>>108034837
Samsung doesn't give a fuck about Linux users.

>>108034886
Hey I would love a SN8100. The problem is that they are like $1300 for a 4TB.

>>108034860
What causes this

Crazy how with the latest RADV driver on Linux 7900 XTX is faster than the 4090

>>108034905
I'm answering his question, idgaf about your budget or storage needs.

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>>108034930
chiplets aging better than the 5090

>Nicotroon is back
Why is he so mentally ill?

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Just be sure to downclock that diarrhea of a buggy GPU when it's constantly crashing on some of the most popular games.
>clearly there is something deep that is wrong
There's something deeper that is wrong with the retards who bought the 7900 XTX.

>>108034201
grats anon, enjoy you card and remember to properly undervolt/overclock it when you get it here for the extra 10% performance + for 0 increase in temperature ,power or voltage. Lastly preset L and DLSS performance is really good now on 1440p or above so hope you dont mind tweaking with DLSS swapper or the nvidia app to make sure you get the dlss 4.5 preset L working and even on a 1080p display with DSR you can render games at 1440p which works really well, and on 1440p dispalys you can do it for 4k which works for many titles, if you use ultra performance, also last cool thing to keep in mind that is that when you do DSR avoid using going beyond 1.78 or 2.25 on DL scaling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyejyMt0u9A

>>108034975
avoid going beyond*

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>>108034947
Steam hardware survey tonight

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>>108034935
Ayymd on Linux
>Gains more performance than a generational uplift would provide
Nshartia on Linux
>Half the performance, constant stutters
>Black screen after 5 minutes
>12 volt house fire connector melted
Lel

>>108034433
5070 12Gb: faster, bigger power draw that most likely will require a PSU update because it needs a 12 pins special cable.
5060 Ti 16Gb: cheaper, less power draw and use a classic 8 pins cable so you might be able to save even more money by keeping your actual PSU.

It's not as absolute as "more money more power" tho because the 5060 Ti 16Gb is better for dicking around with LLM than the 5070 if you want to give that a try. Most models aim to runs on 16Gb VRAM and the 5070 falls short here because of the 12Gb limitation.

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>>108034947
>>108034953
>>108035008
mad

>>108033488
it's something with how certain nvme drives set their power states, instead of going into the lowest state it fucks itself and powers down and only a full power cycle works to make it re-appear. Those commands need to go into your bootloader config but yes it fixed it 100% for me. I had a pair of 2TB 980 Pro drives on one of my servers drop out of RAID1, So I contacted the host and he replaced the one I thought was bad with a 990 Pro instead and the same shit happened again. Updating the firmware didn't fix it, setting those flags and I've had a year of uptime with no issue now. only set the amd_iommu one if you're using AMD though as it's platform specific.

>>108035008
Damn this nigga FAT! I hope nicotroon looks better than this.

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>>108034953
A year since 50 series came out and Njeetia JeetForce driver team still hasn't fixed the dogshit 1% lows and stuttering on many games. Competitive gaming with rtx 50 series is a no go cuz of this

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Look at this faggot coping with muh Linux trope, a buggy GPU is buggy wherever you run it.
Even the usual AMD shills couldn't defend the abortion that is RDNA3.

>>108035032
I think >>108035008 is on your side.

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>>108035043

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This is what RDNA3 copers have to do, they need to dumpster dive for inferior community mods because even AMD disowned that garbage of a GPU generation.

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Even on windows radeon wins vs what's it's competing against with the 9070 XT. It only took a few months and it got faster than 5070 ti thanks to driver and windows updates while the jeetforce just regressed.

>>108034953
>There's something deeper that is wrong with the retards who bought the 7900 XTX.
My 7900XTX has no problems stop updating the drivers you absolute low temp IQ dead shit
go shill your shit somewhere else

>>108035065
Says faggot who sucks jensens kike cock like it's made of money why are njudea users such low life faggots

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>>108035077
>My 7900XTX has no problems
>stop updating the drivers
>'Don't get new game optimizations because of the buggy RDNA3 hardware.'
No self-respect, that's RDNA3 card owners for you.
These are the most loyal AMD suckers; they buy and shill AMD's buggy JeetPUs.

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>>108035086
Shitting on RDNA3 doesn't mean I'm cheering for the other side, I've told people to buy the 9070 XT if they're indecisive over the 5070 Ti.
It's completely fair game to shit on a buggy GPU generation; there's a reason why AMD had to release an RDNA3.5.
RDNA3 is so buggy, even the monolithic RX 7600 GPU isn't safe from its hardware defects.

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10 million goybucks 5090 was unusable for 6 months until ChatGPT which does all the JeetForce driver coding now was able to get the drivers barely working. At least 7900 XTX never lost fps from the adrenalin app lmao!!!

>>108035117
Game filters and photo mode options can be disabled.
Buggy RDNA3 GPUs will constantly crash on some games unless downclocked.
AMD won't send you an unfucked GPU.
You are the sucker.

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you all are so mad you should probably jack off to calm down

anyone else have an msi x870 mobo? currently having issues with the 2 latest versions of BIOS updates causing a bootloop on my system

>>108035117
wtf he has the tiny hands media promised me Trunp had but i never noticed once

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>>108035043
>Competitive gaming with rtx 50 series is a no go
Dude every professional "gamer" uses NVIDIA. Just look through as many pages of pasty nerds as you like. All Pro, all NVIDIA.

>>108035171
You'd be mad as well if you're one of the suckers who fell for the buggy RDNA3 generation of cards.
7900 XTX owners wasted the most money as well. That's why this cocksucker can't get rid of his buyer's remorse.

>>108035187
Cmos reset?

>>108035217
tried that and still looped, even did the ram swap

>>108035211
>he has the tiny hands
He was genetically bred with tiny hand to aid in PC assembly. The unfortunate side effect is he perpetually lies to sell AMD. True story.

>>108035222
If it's still looping I think your only hope is to roll back.

>>108035187
Why would you update BIOS on a functioning computer? Last time I tried that my laptop permanently bricked the HDMI port. Never again. Only update to solve an issue. Otherwise you risk creating one.

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>>108035215
>You'd be mad as well if you're one of the suckers who fell for the buggy RDNA3 generation of cards.
7900 XTX owners wasted the most money as well. That's why this cocksucker can't get rid of his buyer's remorse.

>>108035187
Try booting with one memory module installed in the A2 slot.

>>108035187
did you let it train? that shit takes like 15 minutes with some kits.

>>108035231
This is bullshit but I believe it.

>>108035248
I did and I thought someone would have an answer here but guess I was being too hopeful. thanks for the suggestions though anon. almost never have had an issue with msi in my life
>>108035269
didnt someone finally get FSR4 and redstone to work on 7000 cards finally though?
>>108035277
left it and went to go get in n out, came back after 20 minutes and was still boot looping.
>>108035273
tried that with no luck

>>108035214
I root for Simple. He's an Nvidiot just like me.

>>108035287
is that bios on the latest 1.2.8.0 agesa? they fucked with the TRFC subtimings on that one so I'm skipping it. just flash back to the last good one and stop fucking with it, no reason to updoot all the time unless ur trying to fix something.

>bought a 5090 at the end of last year
>thought about buying another one after all that shit about "$5000 MSRP BY 2027" came out, decided against it
>the model that i bought is now $900 more expensive from the same retailer i bought it at originally
at least i got mine

>>108035287
yes

>>108035315
Yep. I almost got a second one. I could have made some cash.

>>108035294
Even an idiot knows NVIDIA is superior.

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So superior! That's why it stutters more than an autistic retard with down syndrome trying to speak

>>108035416
Hopefully AMD gets their shit together soon.

>>108035075
wow, what happens when I turn on path tracing?

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Such dogwater drivers that an 85 watt radeon APU beats the 5060 in this game and isn't far behind the now 500 dollar 5060 ti

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>>108035461

>buy themalright AIO
>Air bubble
>Sounds like I'm sat next to a Geiger counter
>Rotate PC by 45 Degrees
>Noise gone

Eventually if I leave it like this, the bubbles will make their way to the top of the res, right?
It's mounted in the front with the pipes connected at the bottom.

>>108035463
Well AMD will get it eventually. Don't worry that this gen is a bust.

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>Screenshot_20250913
>Screenshot_20250915
This guy's so lost.
Gearbox is still in the process of fixing their Early Access game.

>>108035475
>quality upscaling
How do they compare those two when fsr looks worse than dlss?

>>108035486
It happens to all AIOs, the manufacturers suggest you run it at max RPM for an hour or so, and to gently tilt the PC forward & backwards.
https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/360045227371-AIO-How-to-Fix-rattling-or-bubbling-sounds-in-AIO-cooler

>>108035502
So what you're saying is nvidia gpus fall apart in badly optimized hard to run games where every single fps matters and can only do well in well performing games that run good on everything?

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>>108035461

>>108035519
>the manufacturers suggest you run it at max RPM
The AIO pump, not the fans.

>>108035502
Imagine the thousands of 9070XT owners who were so excited to play Borderlands 4 and finally have a game that runs better on AMD (as long as any non-raster settings are disabled), only to find it's since been patched and now runs better on Nvidia.
There's literally dozens of them.

>>108035519
I have to wiggle my PC for an hour???

>>108035502
>guy
she is a real woman

>>108035502
why does every game need a roadmap now? jesus christ. imagine being told at launch of monster hunter wilds by capcom "you need to wait 2 years before we finish the game enjoy the beta"

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>>108035530
>where every single fps matters
It's Borderlands 4, not some sweaty competitive multiplayer. You'd want a video card that supports Pulsar for those.
Go ahead and buy a Radeon card if that trash means this much to you.

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>POV you bought an RTX 50 series gpu

>>108035544
Do it until the pump noise doesn't improve anymore.

>>108035547
If you are smart you wait till they go on sale. By then the game functions and it's priced like it should have been.

>>108035570
Go ahead and buy a Radeon card if you main COD. No one in /pcbg/ stopped those people.
Pulsar + Reflex presents the superior experience anyway.

>>108035579
>AMD Unboxed

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>>108035547

>>108035591
I wouldn't be surprised if HWUB Steve buys a Pulsar monitor for his Fortnite sessions; he's not using any Radeon cards for his personal system anyway.
Buy what they use, not what they shill.

>>108035588
>Pulsar
>Superior
IPS slop monitors will never be a superior experience you fucking retard. You will never be a pro cs2 player even with your 1000 dollar lcd piece of shit that has Grey blacks and you will never be a real woman

>>108035608
NVIDIA for me not for thee.

>>108035547
There are very few games worth playing @ launch these days.
It's mostly if a couple of your friends want to play it, or if the game's good enough to deal with the performance issues.

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>>108035625
You will never be a pro COD player with a Radeon card.
People also just have to set up their LCD monitors properly; there's an entire industry for bias lighting.
The guy who tested the ASUS Pulsar for about three weeks prefers it over an OLED.

Not the retardeon faggot this jensen cock slurper is having a brand war with but holy shit this is a new lol. Shilling people to spend oled money on an IPS instead for some new geforce meme tech is crazy.

Don't pro CS players run their game on 800x600 anyway?

>>108035703
Professional colorists have been using IPS monitors with bias lighting just fine.
Even the professional-grade IPS panels are limited to 2000:1 native contrast, one of those monitors + bias lighting is good enough for color accurate work.

If you want HDR, get an OLED.
None of the currently available OLED monitors, especially the 1440p, are of end-game quality.
Even DisplayHDR TrueBlack 500 certified OLED monitors can't reach 400 nits SDR brightness atm.

These two types of monitors can coexist. The ASUS Pulsars are sold out already.

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behold, the biggest modern day piece of shit ive ever owned

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>>108035742
it plays trackmania sunrise
that is all it does
it will never be connected to the internet
because i fucking hate modern windows but its the only thing this stupid videogame works on other than windows XP

>>108035753
Overkill cooling, but I'm happy for you.

>>108035759
its leftovers from when i ditched the pc hobby entirely, several steps down got to this point where theres a 360mm aio on a 300T
it used to be a 12400f, before that it was on a 9600x, 11900k, etc
theres also an 850w superflower platinum something in there, its the types of components that werent worth the time to sell on ebay when i got rid of everything
so here it ends up

This thread was hilarious. I can't believe one shitpost about RADV which is literally a pasta that's been posted here for years sent that freak into a meltdown spamming for his beloved jeetforce
Terminal RDS
Radeon Derangement Syndrome

>>108035800
There is no meltdown, only truthnukes.

Anyone on /pcbg/ own OLED monitors? Is Rtings lying to me or is the flickering really that bad?

It's amazing that nvidia is so insecure they spam the web.

>>108035818
Noticeable in loading screens.
It's noticeable in-game if the FPS is choppy & inconsistent.

>>108035818
VRR gamma shift?
Usually it's fine but in some games it's so bad I disable VRR entirely and play at fixed 120. Though mostly in ones where VRR does nothing in the first place like Stellaris.

>>108035753
>more powerful than top of the line gaming rigs from 2006
worth it I guess?

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>>108035819
They have been doing it since the 2000's

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>>108035819
Projection. Thanks for buying one of AMD's defective products.

>>108035818
I notice zero flickering on my AMD card using Freesync Premium Pro. When I had Nvidia I had a ton of flickering with Gsync. This is a 360hz QD OLED from Dell.

>>108035011
mostly planning to use it for gaming. 1440p where possible but 1080p is fine for unoptimized demanding AAA slop (very few titles I have interest in are that though, probably just MH wilds rn). I guess LLM shit would be an added bonus if I ever delve into that.
If they are mostly comparable for gaming thought the cheaper price tag and extra VRAM would be nice.

I'd be buying all new PSU and anything else though, still looking to keep my current build as a backup

>>108035857
I maxxed out my 2014 Alienware Alpha and it's comfy knowing it's complete.

>>108035011
Outside of AI is there any real world scenario where the extra vram in the 5060ti beats the 5070's faster speed?

>>108035857
realistically thats all it needs to be

the less angry tldr is that trackmania sunrise is one of my favorite games, but it has some awful DRM called starforce or whatever that basically leaves it only functional on windows XP (because the drm just doesnt work on XP)
If you run it on vista/7/8 or 8.1 it will brick your windows install and you gotta repair it
But theres a community repack that works with 10 that doesnt have any of that
So i needed a machine that ran windows 10 and i had the leftovers from dumping all my modern hardware, picked up the 300T and 8gb of ram on ebay, put the 1010 in there i keep around for the lulz
And it does trackmania sunrise in 1600x1200 at maximum settings perfectly, it looks beautiful

ive already got it set up to turn on and just autorun tmsunrise, its effectively a trackmania console

if anyone hasnt played tmsunrise its on myabandonware now, its a great racing game, remember to change your settings after you launch it though because its arrow keys by default

>>108035879
The 5070 is clearly better at gaming. If you want a 5070 equivalent with 16Gb of VRAM and don't plan on much more than giving LLM a try then it's safe to ask you if you checked on AMD GPUs already?

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>>108035819
Right. It's NVIDIA spamming.

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>>108035742
>>108035753
A patricians choice in shitbox cases.

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>>108033551
Thoughts on either of these combos?
>https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4853114
>https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4853116
The former is more appealing obviously. I plan on putting in a ~$80 PSU in it and a sub-$100 GPU in it (might go above that if necessary). Not sure what case, fans, or cooler to use (assuming the stock cooler is not sufficient for my use case, and that the case I choose doesn't come with fans).

I plan on using it for amateur Blender animations/modeling (hence why the stock cooler may not be sufficient), and pre-2020 games. I just need something to get me through these price hikes.

I don't know if I should act now before prices go insane, or if I should hold on, save up, and buy something better. I don't know what to expect prices to be a few weeks from now; CPU and GPU prices are supposedly going to rise soon too.

>>108035907
Anon you're telling me you gave up on a whole rig for Trackmania and you're playing that shit with a keyboard? Grab a $30 used Xbox 360 wheel and pedals kit at the very very least.

Realistically how often do you actually clean your PC? I just vacuum the front/bottom intake once every year or two because the filters get so dusty that they actually block all air intake.
Also still have the same AIO from ~6 years ago, should I get a new one?

>>108035896
rare games that exceed 12gb vram like that indiana jones game

or if you load a lot of mods (skyrimfags)

>>108035919
Haven't really looked at AMD GPUs. Both my previous builds ran nvidia GPUs and I never had any issues with them so I've just defaulted to them since they never gave me a reason not to, and hear friends complain about AMD drivers. Not really opposed to AMD GPUs I just don't know anything about them or their numbering

>>108035969
i ditched the entire hobby and sold almost every piece of modern hardware i had, modern windows is simply not something i was willing to tolerate in my daily life any further

and yes, a controller is something i do want now
im probably just gonna pick up a new xbox controller and run it wired over usb, no need to complicate things
a wheel sounds fun but trackmania isnt going to take advantage of that as much as it would just any kind of analog input really

What is the current Intel equivalent of a Ryzen 5 5600?

>>108035781
Why did you ditch PC hobby?

>>108036004
>im probably just gonna pick up a new xbox controller and run it wired over usb, no need to complicate things
Just get the dongle. It's plug and play. It's the only reliable thing Microsoft has made in years. No drop out, no lag.

>>108035896
Ultra setting Oblivion Remastered in Ultrawide with DLSS and FMG activated, throw some mods in for good measure.

>>108035879
if your only criteria is gaming then 5070. it will do 1440p easily with raytracing even

5060ti is entry level 1440p (turn off rtx and lower to high preset)

Only reason to pick 5060ti is if you're doing AI or 4k editing or blender and stuff like that where a lower vram will give you OOM errors

But if you're just gaming you might just want to go straight to 9070xt probably

>>108036025
the entire scene has gotten so awful it stopped being fun
windows is dogshit, modern game launchers and platforms are terrible to use, its all unreliable and unstable and poorly made, everything requires an account and an internet connection and it just sucks
and im tired of workarounds, i opted to just move on from it
when something gets so shit you start to question why youre eating shit in the first place

>>108036058
Do you still play games outside of tmsunrise (like on PS5) and/or do you do other stuff?

>>108035896
Not really. The 5070 is also significantly more powerful, saying its faster is kind of underselling it. I would lean more toward that if its a gaming set up first and foremost. The 5060 ti is only really worth it for productivity or ai slop and you're on a budget.

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Are there reasons to avoid the 12VHPWR connector on the PSU side? Opposite to old 8-pin.
Model >>108034565

so turns out the aurus elite elite wifi7 doesn't actually have wifi drivers for windows 10 and ethernet is not an option... i searched for hours so if someone else ever has this ULTRA SPECIFIC problem and doesn't want to cuck to windows 11 here is the driver you need
https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-x870-p-wifi/helpdesk_download?model2Name=PRIME-X870-P-WIFI
select windows 10 from the dropdown click show all downloads and choose the one for windows 10. if you're a random person suffering from this ultra specific problem and reading this in the archives the future you're welcome and I hope you have a nice day/ night

>>108036074
not really anymore, i deleted my steam account and that was easily 95% of my games, but when its "last seen online 51 days ago" when i logged in i questioned why i even had it if im never playing any of those games
i might do the original halo 1 for pc with chimera and the 1.10 patch on that same pc, thats another one i think ill miss
beyond that a lot of the games i really want to play arent even on pc, i want to learn how to mod the og xbox in order to build up a more reliable one and run midnight club 3 dub edition without a disc drive in play

its definitely a feeling of losing some stuff i enjoy but its also kinda liberating to simplify it so much like this

>>108035896
Games that use more than 12GB VRAM. If you game at 1080p low it's probably fine. Know that raytracing eats a lot of VRAM too.

>>108036122
and as far as "other stuff" goes, very off topic for pcbg but i do a lot of other things
and some of those were eating up time i was dedicating to pc games for a while, im not some ultra gamer or anything but i had my several hundred hours of cs2, close to 1000 on halo mcc, ashamed to admit, but a maxed osrs account is also still just frozen in time out there rn
those were already being pushed to the side in favor of different hobbies even before this

>>108036118
Yep. Just replace the wifi card.

>>108036142
no need with the driver I posted. decided. that's the trick to avoid wasting money and time

>>108035753
>trackmania sunrise
uhh based? it works on linux btw
>>108035969
i think keyboard is how most people played it back in the day
it wasn't as common to have a gamepad (or wheel) connected to your PC

>>108036148
i couldnt get my sound card to work on linux unfortunately, i did try, the game runs well but the audio doesnt work
and the onboard realtek stuff is ehh/10 versus the dedicated 3D directsound stuff

I had a buddy build my pc and I haven't touched its internals in like 5 years, never cleaned it. I want to clean it and put it in a new case (I already have the new case).
What should I do to make sure I don't fuck everything up?

>>108036118
Same issue with the B850 AI TOP, uses Realtek RTL8922AE, would it work?

>>108036200
Do you have an nvidia or amd gpu? If you're an nvidiot im not helping and hope you wreck everything during the case swap.

>>108036232
Same here but the opposite. I only even answer people in these threads that Intel + Nvidia. If they use any AMDung junk I a most will give purposely bad advice to hopefully make them wreck their fragile amd e waste hardware

>>108036232
>>108036268
Wow. I give bad advice regardless of the hardware.

>>108036029
Thanks
The main reason 5060ti was on the radar was mostly the price was quite a lot cheaper than a 5070 even, or other options. I guess more of a placeholder card but if its already getting into lowering shit to high presets I might be better off just spending a bit more for something a bit stronger. I'm hoping for it to last for the next 5-7 years at least (like my 1060 has lasted me this long)

What are the major pros/cons between a 5070 vs 9070xt?

>>108036200
Take pics before you take it apart, so if you mess up you have a reference to unfuck it.
Careful with the screwdriver, don't knock off components off the motherboard/GPU.
I don't know if it's worth the trouble changing the case for a 5 years old PC. I'd keep the case for a new future build.

>>108036288
9070xt is faster (raw raster power) with more VRAM, even in RT due to being a bigger chip with more transistors, might lose when frame gen is involved. Better loonix support.
Biggest flaw is AMD's past behavior on their driver support. 7900XTX does not have FSR4 despite being last gen flagship. Same might happen with 9070xt.

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>>108036272
Based.

>>108036288
>5070 vs 9070xt
The 9070 XT is much faster for gaming/raster, and has more VRAM, that's not the right comparison, it's peer is the 5070 Ti instead.
>5-7 years at least
The lower end cards won't last, and AMD might retire support for RDNA4 sooner than later like they have done for generations 1-3 already. It all depends on what you do with it, if you play 1080p games at low settings and raster only, and can tolerate upscaling and frame generation as they currently are, then you should be fine.

>bought a $500 motherboard on amazon resale for $250
>arrives this week

wish me luck bros

>>108035486
>Sounds like I'm sat next to a Geiger counter
i unplugged my AIO pump and fan, and that popping noise was still audible. i swear it's motherboard coil whine, not the AIO

>>108035753
>14th gen dual core
wow

>>108036431
I can do used Ram. I can do a used CPU, and maybe GPU, but I don't have the balls to do a used Motherboard. Good luck.

>>108033551
My 2012 machine won't run my student license of SolidWorks 2025. Poorfag build on order. How'd I do?
>Ryzen 5 5500 (TDP 65W)
>ASRock B550 Phantom Gaming 4/ac.
Reviews say this board could handle higher end AM4 CPUs if I ever find one cheap.
>32 gigabois (2x16) DDR4 2666.
At this speed I can use all 4 slots someday.
>RTX 4060 (TDP 115W) (used)
>sick ass Falcon Northwest case (used)
>some old SSD I have lying around

>>108036509
itll do fine, the slower ddr4 might be a holdup but if youre adamant on 64gb at some point i get where youre going with the 2666, i feel thats less of an issue on even mid tier am4 boards though
the 4060 is going to come down to price when it comes to solidworks, a higher end 2000 series will generally outperform for less money in applications like that

>>108036505
Is there a chance that it could fry other components?

Do I need to buy insurance for this or something?

>>108036550
NTA, but I've never considered a motherboard to be a wearing item. As long as it wasn't abused with over-voltages or too-high-temperatures, there's nothing to worry about.

>>108036550
I'd be more worried about a fucked up CPU socket.

>>108036432
motherboard coil whine is uncommon but it happens.

>>108036105
Having the port is better if you're using a GPU with the 12vhpwr connector
>>108036550
On an almost new board? Probably not, you'd have to win the lottery to get a CPU killing board that slipped out of the factory.
Just don't put a CPU into the socket and power it on if the pins are damaged since there's a good chance to fry it

>>108036299
We didn't want to buy a case at the time so it's in a cardboard box. It's actually really funny and never gave me problems. But it's time to move on.

>>108036550
its the most fragile component in an average system with the highest chance of conventional failure, and they tend to not outright die, they fail slowly at times which can lead to them seemingly working fine except for XYZ small thing which slowly cascades into complete failure

most of the time itll be fine
but its a component that i wouldnt buy used for any important system, and buying used a mobo gets far more scrutiny over its condition and previous life/owner than most other components imo

Should I go for the 7600x microcenter bundle or fork over the extra $80 shekels for the x3d bundle? I know those tend to be more focused on gaymin, at the expense of some of the multiprocessing ability of the non x3d variants.

>>108036593
Id get 8 core x3d if possible

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>>108035972
>Realistically how often do you actually clean your PC?
I take the PC out of the house with an air duster every month or so.
Most of the dust is due to the AIO's radiator.

>Also still have the same AIO from ~6 years ago, should I get a new one?
If your CPU's performance is throttling or the operating temperature's noticeably increased.
If the AIO is running louder or if the pump is making more noise.

>>108036012
Probably the Intel 12400/F, but prices have gone up.

>>108036105
>Are there reasons to avoid the 12VHPWR connector on the PSU side?
It's not as retard-proof as the PSU's PCIe connectors (see pic).
A /pcbg/ frequenter with an ASUS 5090 Astral tested the per-pin current distribution differences of his PSU's native 12V-2x6 connector and using 2x 8-pin PCIe connectors.
His PSU's native 12V-2x6 connector provides more even per-pin current distribution, but he's also not retarded.

>>108036529
I waffled between the 4060 and a 2080 ti for around the same price. The 2080 ti is better for Stable Diffusion. I think the 4060 is the lowest TDP of all post-1000 series desktop GPUs. The 2000s and 3000s went up, 4000s dipped a little, turn 5000s went crazy. In general benchmarks the 2080 ti is about 25% faster but over 2x the TDP of the 4060. Also, the 4060 I found had a cover on the back of the circuit board. I don't like GPUs with bare circuit boards.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/stable-diffusion-benchmarks

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4060-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti/4150vs4027

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/power_performance.html

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X3D FUDders btfo

how to go about choosing a motherboard?
legit know nothing about them other than like AM4 or AM5 to match DDR of ram

>>108036686
Puget Systems disables PBO for every Ryzen computer they ship out.
So 1.51% Ryzen X3Ds failing with PBO disabled is a different story.

>>108036562
It's sold as fully functional, but with "cosmetic damage" and a missing sata cable in the box

should come with everything else but ill investigate when it gets here

>>108035965
Get the combo with the 16GB DDR4; 8GB isn't good enough.

>>108036696
Give us a budget, use case, and how many SATA and M.2 slots you need.
Let us know the CPU you plan to buy as well.

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>>108033551
>i'm cold
>it's very cold in my room
>fire up some game to heat up my room when the gpu kicks into gear
>it's so cold the gpu is thriving and performing cool at shit barely spinning the fans
>i'm still cold

>>108036748
maybe buy a space heater

>>108036698
PBO is supposed to be disabled anyway by default
9800x3d still runs up to 5225mhz with PBO disabled

>>108036748
>not overclocking it to 5000mhz

ngmi

>>108036739
I know, I just considered the other combo in case the former went off sale. In hindsight, it'd be retarded to buy it for the sake of keeping a low budget, and then have to buy more modules to have 16GB of RAM.

Is it otherwise a viable poorfag build for my use case?

>>108036696
Familiarize yourself with the motherboard's official specsheets, like this example.
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B850-AORUS-ELITE-WIFI7-rev-1x/sp

Things to pay attention to are:
- The number of M.2 slots and which PCIe generations they support
- Number of SATA ports for SATA SSD or HDD needs.
- WiFi & Bluetooth support if needed
- USB connections
- The PCI generation of the x16 slot for the video card (older generations can cost a new card around 2~3% performance)
- Number of memory slots: if you plan to try hard overclock DDR5 memory, 2-DIMM slot boards are generally better,

I'd avoid ASUS & ASRock AM5 boards because AMD is blaming board manufacturers for killing Ryzen 9000 CPUs, and these two companies have the highest reported instances of dead CPUs.

>>108036797
>Is it otherwise a viable poorfag build for my use case?
Buy what you can afford for amateur Blender rendering; the GPU will be the bigger bottleneck.

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>>108033551
I deep cleaned and put new thermal pads and paste on a windforce gtx970. So much tiny fragile plastic. So much.


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>>108036813
I have an RX 480 8GB I can put in it, though I know RTX cards are better to make use of Optix for rendering. I'll probably switch to one. The mb supports PCIe 4.0, but the CPU doesn't. Might be a (slight) bottleneck depending on the GPU.

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>>108036855
PCI-E bottlenecking is a meme unless you're on PCI-E 2.0 at 4x or something.

>>108036855
Ryzen 5500 is limited to PCIe Gen 3.0 x16 for the video card btw, but it's not going to be that detrimental for Blender rendering (if any).
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-pci-express-x8-scaling/

5600 would be the better CPU, but it's too costly compared to that combo. Not worth the added overall cost.
https://www.amd.com/en/support/downloads/drivers.html/processors/ryzen/ryzen-5000-series/amd-ryzen-5-5500.html

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I just slapped a 5800XT in here for 150$.

hi anon
I don't need a pc now, but I wonder what kind of pc can I build under $800?

>>108036937
just curious about how fucked we are

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>bought 9800x3d bundle from microcenter that comes with some old ass b650 asus mobo
>haven't built the pc yet, but now hearing the failure rates on asus mobos
I guess I could just get a new mobo but I bought a warranty and I'm not sure if it covers the 9800x3d if I use a different mobo or not now. They also have that 9850x3d bundle too.

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>>108036801
>2-DIMM slot boards are generally better
I hope you're not suggesting people limit themselves to buying motherboards with only 2 memory slots because that's absolutely retarded and misleading at best, if you don't want to use all 4 you don't have to, you can just use 1 DIMM per channel and get the maximum speed (also depends on memory rank).
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B850-P-WIFI/Specification

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>>108036943
>I bought a warranty

>>108036937
If you have a microcenter nearby you could try getting one of the cheaper bundles. Or maybe drop down to an am4 build with ddr4. The intel processors (not the core ultras) also support ddr4 which can save money.

>>108036964
Don't crop out my statement out of context like a faggot, post it in full.
>if you plan to try hard overclock DDR5 memory, 2-DIMM slot boards are generally better
This is true, you're acting like a faggot.

>>108036937
> what kind of pc can I build under $800?
A lame duck, good enough for some basic office work and casual 2D games.
You would get a CPU with integrated graphics, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, PSU, case, 24" 60Hz office display.

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I borrowed my friend's pliers and can't remove the stripped screw without tripping. So 2 days ago I had this idea of using an old small nail pliers to remove the mounting screw entirely. It worked. Scratched the motherboard, but I hasn't encounter any problem so far.

>>108036964
Those slots worsen signal integrity just by being there
Paying for 2 extra slots that hinders you and you don't intend to use is peak retarded

>>108036965
Niggas like you laugh until you're stuck with a several hundred dollar paper weight.
>inb4 muh bathtub curve

>>108036943
>read into this
>ASUS motherboard I just bought is the bargain version of the most reliable AM5 motherboard of 2025
Phew. Glad I went with the TUF instead of the STRIX.

>>108037013
Which one?

>>108036987
Your post was linked retard there's no need to quote every single character. You're a disingenuous faggot recommending shit that also in practice exists only in gimped overpriced ITX/SFF boards

>>108037007
You too

>>108036996
>>108036937

i built this for 800
>>108036916

r5 5500 $80
16gb DDR4 3600 $120
RTX 3060 12GB $200
MSI B550 VC WiFi $70
Montech XR $60
1tb NVMe SSD $150
Thermalright Mini peerless assasin $35
650 modular Micro center PSU $60

I got the motherboard and psu as open box.

>>108037027
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/puget-systems-most-reliable-hardware-of-2025/
I bought the ASUS TUF B850M-E WIFI. The ASUS TUF B850M-PLUS WIFI got the top spot in reliability of boards which were tested.

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>>108037027
Puget Systems' motherboard reliability report doesn't mean much since they almost exclusively source ASUS motherboards.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/puget-systems-most-reliable-hardware-of-2025/

>>108037032
You already showed your hand in being a retard, no need to double or triple down

>>108037032
Nigger, 8200MT/s isn't the maximum speed.

>>108033551
Either my ethernet cable or my motherboards ether port has crapped out on me, if its my motherboard it might be time to upgrade my 15 year old pc. Prebuilts are the best bang for your buck atm?

>>108033551
help the linux thread didn't want to help
>>108033709
>>108033832

>>108035039
I have an AMD cpu, adata nvme, and cachy os.

Please leave retard proof instructions for me to follow after I get back from work.

i have a i5 2500 / gtx 650 ti. I WAS planning on building one last year but i put it off.

This might be weird but what is the cheapest or "newest" graphics card I can upgrade to that'll hold me off? i want something like 50 bucks but not sure what's to even look for. i'm not aiming to play the newest games.

>>108037431
probably some igpu thing if you buy a modern cpu
browse some shit used gpus, 2060 maybe

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>>108037431
>graphics card I can upgrade to that'll hold me off? i want something like 50 bucks

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>Even 128gb SATA SSDs won't go below $40
>240gb are $60
Is this fucking 2015

>>108037488
That's probably the price point where his CPU starts to bottleneck.

any podcasts worth paying attention to, to keep up with tech news?

Pulsar monitors cost 800€ EUvatted+taxxed, it's all so tiring
release in three weeks unless some other retailer gets them in earlier

>>108037752
also
>all pulsar monitors shipping with DP1.4+DSC
I guess most problems fixed but still

>>108033675
>>108033628
Wouldn't I also need to switch to an amd based motherboard or anything else?

What's the best $100 case right now that I can buy in Europe? I need 5.25" bays (at least 2-3) but also don't want it to be a hotbox.

>>108037765
why do people want to compromise their pc cooling with stuffing hdds in the case
just keep them external, you can use a 100m long usb cable to connect them

>>108037787
>why do people want to compromise their pc cooling with stuffing hdds in the case
Because this isn't a problem on well-designed cases nor has anything to do with the question

>>108036759
I have a 1000W space heater and that shit gave me 5.3 kwh just over the night
Makes me wonder how much I have to pay for my PC all these years compared to a 30W laptop or phone

Should I still buy a 5950X or 5900XT right now or wait for the possibility that AMD will ship other Zen 3 CPUs?

>>108037872
not much if you live in a country that builds a lot of nuclear plants

>>108036083
>The 5060 ti is only really worth it for productivity or ai slop and you're on a budget.
The fact that the price difference between the two is only like 50-100 dollars makes this so fucked

>>108035753
>GT 1010
WUT DAFUQ

>>108036200
Got it in the new case and everything's working except for the power button/beeper/hddlight/etc and I had to plug in my old jank power plug. Is it just me or is this part always annoying?

>>108037881
...We don't do that in Germany anymore

>>108037898
its alright, imported russian gas is cheaper anyway
from the reliable trading partner

>>108037890
And don't forget
>ddr4
>64bit
As shit as the chip is, it's still being choked by the tiny bandwidth.
>>108037895
Your case should come with that connector, you plug it into the mobo.

>>108037872
Steam Deck is my go-to for low power gaming. I live off-grid so in times of low sunlight I can't use my desktop.
I'm keeping my eye on mini-PC APUs too, but I don't think it's the right time to buy them yet. likely when they add the same chips that will be in RDNA 5 GPUs to the APUs.

>>108037905
I had it plugged in differently to how it wanted. This is an old new stock case I got straight out of either the late 90's or early 2000's. Its front end ports were labeled accurately and so were the mother board's but I had one in the wrong place (the power led) because there were two options for its location and the power switch itself plugged in one slot over. Got it working. I'll post a picture from my phone here in a second, though it's nothing special and a bit dirty.

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>>108037905
>>108037976
Here it is.

>>108037942
>I live off-grid so in times of low sunlight I can't use my desktop.
Truly a hard life, I respect it.

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>>108037983
And the old cardboard box it was in previously, with a handsome paint job courtesy of my friend who built it and stickers from that friend and my wife. I'll be flattening it, saving it, and putting it up as wall decoration, I think. Also several people might ought to recognize me from this so hello if so. Now I'm going to replace my windows install with linux to commemorate the occasion.

>>108037983
holy mid-2000 LAN party soul

>>108037997
This needs to be the next OP as an example of frugal pc building.

Should buy used PC parts? Got a friend that wanted to sell a PSU, motherboard and CPU to me, all of them high end parts that's only been used for 8 months.

>>108038130
they should still have warranty
the mobos are kinda sus to buy used because they have a lot of failure points but if it works when you buy it and you have receipt its fine

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How would you fix these bent pins?

>>108038160
I wouldnt have precision tools for it
id need magnifying glass, tiny metal pincers or something, even then Id be worrying about the pos ruining an expensive cpu somehow

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>>108037983
uUu lala

>>108038142
Its an ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E Extreme AMD X870E, so I wanted to get it for $500 but like you said, I will be cautious and see it test run before buying

>>108038160
Some people use razorblades to do that. You line it up in the column or row and press gently. I don't know about how effective it is so make sure you look up some videos and get your bearings about it before attempting it.

>>108038245
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/336413251858
Are we looking at the same one or something?

>>108038273
Uh no, its from an actual friend in the USA....

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>imagine shitting a eneral for a year because you were $50 short for a 5070ti
I'm convinced that nicotroon is underage.

>>108033695
it has 16

>>108037765
Fractal Pop Air has 2 5.25 bays and a mesh front.

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>9070 finally made it to the big boy surveys with 0.15% of the steam userbase
>9060 xt and 9070 XT appear on linux
AMD won

Friendly reminder all our hardware will seem shit tier in 2036.

Here's what was huge in 2016: GeForce GTX 1080

We're just having fun.

>>108038142
I did a switeroo with a brand new X870 board, replaced the faulty with the new and returned it in what looked like perfect condition.
I feel sorry for the poor guy who sees mint condition, what looks like a practically unopened motherboard only to run into the hell that I did.
Should have left a sticky note inside to be honest.

>>108038657
the only operating system worth using. microslop software doesn't belong on personal computers. it's like getting cucked in your own home.

>>108038657
Linux (potato)
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Linux (thing)
Linux (potato)
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>>108038721
diminishing returns bro

technology can't infinitely progress. it's gonna plateau at some point. does the planet even have enough cobalt and rare earth minerals to keep this industry going

>>108038721
>Here's what was huge in 2016: GeForce GTX 1080
People were just starting to use 1080p and 1440p for gaming. When the GTX 1080 launched they were still using 720p in benchmarks and 1440p gaming was considered a luxury. People who bought the GTX 1080 have been using it to play games for the last decade and only now are people looking to upgrade.

Just like people were hyped for the GTX 1080 to play games at 1440p and 1080p people now want full 4k with raytracing. The same thing that pushed the GTX 1080 to be so widely adopted is the same thing pushing the 50 series cards (resolution). That's why dlss/upscaling is such a hot topic. People don't want their resolution spoiled by shitty anti-aliasing and interpolation technology.

>>108038828
>does the planet even have enough cobalt and rare earth minerals to keep this industry going
Lol, yes. Many times over. We'll see cyberpunk irl before we even begin to run out of precious metals. The amount of resources isn't the problem it's who owns them and what they want in return. Keep in mind that people own not only the metals and factories but the mines and they don't give a fuck about what people "need". They'll ask you to sell the world for what they pull out of a hole in their backyard because "muh mineral rights". people have been arguing over mineral rights since before written history.

Best compute for Flat Earth appreciators?

>>108038959
Some android device with privacy focused Os that enables you to organize the end of the world

>>108038959
>>108038971
Definitely not something with gps.

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>dark rock elite is worse then some thermalright pos
it's >>108033789

>>108039003
Noctua is the only expensive cooler that holds up. Everything else was always beaten by 20$ chinkshit. I remember when the Mugen 2 was all you would ever need

>>108039000
What, you think Ra is gonna slum it all night with abos?

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>>108039042
If you can't read geocentric starmaps you're not going to make to agartha.

>>108038721
To be honest bro consider how useful a RTX 2070 with 8gb is because of upscaling, i doubt any amd card will be decent in 2036 but i can definetly see some RTX cards with enough vram hold it own on 2036 unless they invent something on the level of tensor cores

>>108039119
rubber duck