>>108041456
Im not sure stuffing junk into boxes qualifies you as a tech worker

>>108041489
well, I'm not sure writing a webapp, or some useless app qualifies you as a tech worker either, but here you are.

anyone else taking it easy this monday?

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Is it even possible to get a cute gf while being employed as a programmer, mathematician and other "nerd professions"? I mean, an actual gf, not a gold digger.
What do you even do? I assume you must have vision correction to get rid of glasses and gym so that you look like you do manual labor for a living.
But even then, she will find out your real job one day. What do you guys do?

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sirs, I need opnions on how to lie on my cv.

I have 8 yoe, work with java, spring, aws, kafka, kubernetes, oauth2, sql/nosql, know how to use splunk... the typical microservices/cloud env but not uber level of microservices. Never ever needed to use graphql or any advance concepts of nosql DBs. All the places i worked so far were mostly about secure integration of services and pod performance.

Now, im looking for a job and it seems all job listings are bloated and i cant properly guess what i need to learn next. I see java+golang , java+kotlin, java+node backend jobs. My last interview was asking for java, flask, nodejs, like wtf?

Im planning to spend the next 6mo learning a new tech. I dont know if golang or kotlin will make it easier to get a job.
Also do i need to learn bullshit like graphql, 2phase commit, aerospike db, grpc? I bet the retards asking for this shit think they are uber but receive like 10req/min on their apis.

>>108041643
that's every monday

Is it even possible to get a junior level dev job in your 30s? I have almost 15 yoe but I've basically been junior level the entire time and I don't have the skills to get a senior level job with the insane hiring standards that exist today.

>>108041954
lmao diddyblud is cooked

>>108041659
pic unrelated i presume?

>>108041981
I don't know what any of this zoomerspeak means.

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>Finally get a job after 6 months of rejections
>It's a children's hospital, underfunded
>Spend the first day trying to build my work PC out of spare parts
>Fail because I can't find a working PSU

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Kx9DWlcBoHs

>>108042003
that's awesome actually

>>108042003
It's okay, it's not your job to get a working PSU, IT'S THEIRS

>>108042176
not if you're the it manager, retard

>>108042182
If it's your responsibility then you wouldn't have mentioned that it's underfunded

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>>108041989
unc is chopped hahahahaha

7 months is enough to put on my resume right
what if I quit and get a masters

>>108041954
Just lie wtf
>15 yo experience junior
Fucking how? Just lie and say you were a sr/ tech lead

>>108042459
What I mean is that I don't have the skills to compete with anyone that's at the senior level today. At some of my previous jobs my title technically was "senior" but that doesn't mean anything. The bar for web dev was way lower in the 2010s and I just don't have what it takes to be senior level today. The expectations are just insanely high now.

>>108042494
start grinding my nigga
1 hour every evening

>>108042518
Grinding what?

>>108042518
>1 hour every evening
bro is aiming to get a job in 2032

>>108042601
1 hour of dedicated learning a night is more than enough to get you to "senior level" if you already have 15 years xp

99% of the time as a senior you aren't learning shit at work

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>about me
>technical skills
>experience
>education
or
>about me
>experience
>technical skills
>education
I don't have a degree so education goes last

>>108042628
I've spent probably 1000 hours working on personal projects in the past year and that hasn't made me any more qualified for the expectations of a senior level job in today's market. I don't even see what I can do on my own that would make me senior level, since most of the qualifications are things you can only learn by working in a large highly organized team at a big company, and most of my 15 yoe is working at small startups where I was usually the solo dev learning new things on the job. I wish I could just find a job like that again but they've all gone extinct. Nobody wants to just hire someone to just build something for them, unless it's for like $100.

>want to be Intune admin
>need to learn PS to be a decent MS admin in any capacity
Are there any good resources to learn powershell?

>>108041456
people still work in tech? I thought that was over.

Why?

>>108042660
answer me pls!!!!!!

>>108042660
https://sheetsresume.com/

>>108042986
>ai resume builder
how to never get hired 101

>>108042660
>>>/g/utwg

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>>108042993
it's just a template and I got hired into a 250k job with it

>>108043042
>250k job
Why do people come here and lie like this? Nobody except the top like 3% of software engineers are making anything close to 250k a year, and nobody who's in the top 3% is posting on 4chan of all places.

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>>108043140
in reality it's even more. really depends on the massive size of the bonus.

You guys think it's worth a $20k pay increase to go from fully remote to fully in-person? I've been remote since I started working as a dev 6 years ago so I have no idea what working in an office is like but it seems like it sucks ass.

>>108043042
Your dad works at Nintendo?

>>108043233
Absolutely no.

About to go on my first business trip ever. The company that owns the startup I work remotely at are flying us in for a few days so we can meet everyone and have a winter party.

>>108043233
fuck no. are you fucking stupid? retard.

>finally have creative hobby project that i'm excited to work on
>can't stop thinking about it all day, can't concentrate at work
>too tired in the evening to get anything serious done
>tiredness overshadows excitement
i feel like quitting right now

I studied a bunch of difficult interview problems and then I got an easy one and I absolutely failed the crap out of it because I can't do interviews. they're not good. it's not fun to think like that or to think out loud or to do something in front of someone unless it's pissing and shitting

>>108041739
>splunk
Go into this niche further for extra dollarydoos

>>108043317
honestly, start waking up at 5:00 a.m. and then have your coffee and work on your creative project with your best energy of the day. and then go to work. and then go to bed really early because you have a creative project you're working on.

>>108043420
i like splunk. it makes me alot of money :)

>>108043428
Same :^)
The software is NOT comfy though

>>108043420
is it really worth selling your soul though?
same with sap, yeah it does make money, but your work will be miserable and you'll be pigeonholed for the rest of your career

>>108043233
Fuck no. I honestly wouldn't go in to an office for anything less than 200k.

>>108042796
>most of my 15 yoe is working at small startups where I was usually the solo dev learning new things on the job
That's a good thing retard. Just spin it better.
>senior dev experienced with building teams and infrastructure from scratch in dynamic a startup environment
boom

>go sit at McDonald's with my laptop in my spare time and browse /g/ like a burnout
I never thought my life would come to this... I guess I have 300k in the bank so that's nice... I might buy one of those 140cm dolls for a few g

>>108043233
for $20k no not really
still, i personally don't mind the office since there are plenty of cuties and my coworkers are chill
2-3 days on-site is a good compromise, but fully on-site sounds awful unless you live right next to the office

>>108042003
I don't know how I feel about anon working with sick children.

>>108043800
That's pretty much what I already say in my resume. I can't lie and say I've "built teams" though because I've only ever worked alone or alongside a designer. But it doesn't matter. I've applied to almost 400 jobs in the past 2 months with a total of 2 responses. Nobody wants to hire someone who's never worked in a large team of devs. Also, all but 1 of the 7 startups I've worked at no longer exists. I'm assuming when people look at my resume they think I'm making up these companies or something.

>>108043233
I wouldn't go in person for anything less than a 250k+ faang job
even then it would be a hard decision

>>108043815
It's all about perspective. With the right clothes and style you'll come across as a hipster.

>>108041659
i gave up on women
it was hard at first but now i'm finally free

>>108042003
It's a children's hospital. Ask for donations. Specifically for a used PSU.

>>108043425
Great answer

>>108043882
Are you going to give up on jobs too?

>>108041456
>i dont wanna rto
welp

>>108041739
your shit is fine as is, but dont put it on your resume unless you're prepared to talk about it in depth.

avoid golang, it's memetier. if you want to work with faggots, just do python

avoid kotlin unless you want to make android shit.

your main problem is likely your stack explanation on here isn't showing us anything particular that makes you more useful than an extra 2 hours per day of a sr dev + ai. you need to have something that is clearly useful in todays day to be taken seriously. bullshit crud apis are the past and a bare minimum not a "check out my cv!"

>>108041954
market yourself as a "code detective" that enjoys fixing bugs made by other developers. this translates to "im a little bitch who can't actually write new code" but reads as "oh this guy specializes in fixing bugs"

>>108043868
God bless portlandia and 2010 to 2015

How much of the supposedly horrible job market for SWE in the US at the moment is people not willing to move where the work is and not willing to take jobs that aren't 5 times the average salary of the area where they live?

>>108041489
Those positions are staffed by workers hired by staffing agencies contracted by Amazon. Technically, they aren't Amazon employees.

>>108044450
I set my search area on LinkedIn to anywhere in the US and apply to 30-40 jobs a day that I know I'm qualified for, regardless of what the pay is, and my response rate is under 0.5%. Even jobs in the middle of fucking nowhere that pay $40k a year get >100 applicants an hour after they're posted.

>>108043233
Working in the office is absolutely comfy. Disregard the antisocial naysayers.

>>108044450
None. None of it has to do with that.

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>>108041456

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i'm so fucking tired
idk how many more days i can do
please lay me off

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>had a job interview
>was just algorithm trivia nonsense
>got asked to prove graph coloring was NP
>i burned a PTO day for this
these chucklefucks want to hire a professor on an interns salary

>>108044657
it's over

>>108044739
>graph coloring was NP
use case?

>>108044548
take the defencepill

>>108044959
Clearance jobs are impossible to get if you don't already have a clearance.

>>108044914
thats what i was wondering the entire fucking time
i would just be maintaining internal django services
not exactly breaking new ground

>>108041618
I put in like 20 years of my life into this shit and all for nothing?

>>108044980
worked for me, they hired me right out of school and paid for the clearance, fuck there's a recent (little over a year ago) hire on my team whose degree is in math and had never done any programming before getting hired

>>108045000
Someone in another thread said it costs $40k to get a security clearance. Why would any company pay that much money unless it's some top tier applicant from MIT or something. But then you wouldn't have trouble finding a job anywhere if that was the case.

>>108045000
>want a job?
>should've gotten one 5 years ago!
thanks boomer retard

>>108045028
i just said someone on my team got hired and their clearance got approved as recently as a year ago, you could do it to if you stopped bitching and put your big boy pants on

>>108045024
Because companies need to renew their employee stock from time to time
Do Americans really have to pay for their own clearances or something?

>working in tech
https://youtu.be/o1Xsj9-3Pvo

>>108043233
>You guys think it's worth a $20k pay increase to go from fully remote to fully in-person?
depends on your personality, but if the question is about money, try calculating cost vs benefit, and you'll quickly realize that the benefit is close to $0 or maybe even negative

>>108045054
No, but what company is going to pony up $40k to hire someone that could just decide to quit a month later?

>>108045066
Défense companies, because it’s required to work there and they don’t have special rights to enslave people yet…

>>108044959
this, can confirm
>>108045000
this is also my experience

Is it just me or does it look like the way the AI agents talk it's like they're begging for rape?

>>108045079
>>108045045
That worked 5 years ago, it doesn't work now.

>>108044739
If they give you a ridiculous question, that means they don't want to hire you.

>>108045169
You're absolutely right!

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Anon who was asking about getting an associates degree last thread.

Still thinking about it, but I took a look at the syllabi for the courses.

Any course that's a specific programming language seems very surface level and like it covers the same concepts but for different languages. Variables, pointers, recursion, objects/classes, functions, loops, objects and classes, except like it's multiple different courses to cover that in C, C##, Java, Python, and probably Javascript too. There is some stuff on like PowerBI, SQL, Data Structures, and PHP, but idek bros.

Rn here is what I know.
>have English degree
>think being a writer is too unrealistic of a goal/career
>currently work IT help desk
>have dabbled with scripting before and enjoyed it
>considering associates degree in "application development"
>looking at course info and local jobs
>realizing this probably wouldn't be enough to get a job

shieeeet

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bros...

>>108043763
Splunk is not comparable to SAP in any way

>>108045994
i will repeat what i told you last time:
1. associate's degrees are a meme. get a bachelor's or don't bother
2. tech degrees that aren't explicitly titled "computer science/electrical engineering/computer engineering" are a meme. yes, this includes infosys and ESPECIALLY cyber security (worst offender)

>>108046016
2026 Truth nuke:
Nobody cares about the "meme"/"non-meme" division for hiring.
Associate are ok, but in twg people are elitists who want to be top-notch code nonkeys in sf. For helldesker these are enough.

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>>108046016
yeah...
really starting to regret my bachelor's in English lmao....

Don't know how much I agree on the second point.

I think some IT classes could help in getting a like junior sysadmin position or something. This is the "cybersecurity" degree at the school I'm thinking of. I don't think you could get a full of cybersecurity $100k/yr job like is pushed by seemingly everyone, but I do think learning Unix and AD would help in a sysadmin job.

I will say cybersecurity is the biggest meme of all. Schools and youtubers and seemingly everyone pushes "learn cybersecurity in 6 months and get this $100k/year job!!!" I did a cybersecurity bootcamp and am no where near qualified to get a cybersec job. Maybe, MAYBE as a NOC analyst, but even then, I kind of doubt it.

Idk, I'm a bit of a tard who fell for the "follow your dreams!" thing in college, then fell for the "cybersecurity!!!' after college. Worried another degree will be more of falling for it again.

>>108046051
I feel like an associates will be a piece of paper to make my resume look nice, but what will really get a job is like two or three really cool webdev projects.

>>108046016
infosys requires soft skills

does anyone else feel so bad about their job that you literally throw up every day?

>>108046108
It's because you care. A lot of people don't get these feelings at all because they've killed that part of them or were never born with it.

>>108046114
idk what happened to me, i used to be a better person, i wasn't like this in previous jobs, i probably spent too much time in isolation

>>108046108
Same, maybe because there’s no ownership at my current job. There’s no clarity about what I should or shouldn’t do, but I always need to be “prepared.” I kinda wonder if they’re going to kick me out, because what I’m doing right now feels pointless

>>108046108
No lol, I instantly forget about my job the moment I leave the office/close my laptop

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>company falling to bits
>only intermediate engineer
>have to jump ship like a rat
>skill issues and can’t because I fucking suck
>stuck in rock and hard place
>career grinding to a halt
>interview
>ai slop startup wanting a lead
>they just think that ai is magic and can do everything. lots of ideas
>already know that this shit will be irrelevant in a year

What do I do in this case? Every other job I look at just looks utterly fucking pointless. I don’t know if I’ve just become jaded or if something changed with humanity. Why everything people are creating with computers seem completely useless?

It seems like suicide not to take this job but I also have feelings of apprehension.

>>108043233

How long is the commute? 20 minutes or less one way might be worth it.

Anything more than that no. As I have grown older I view commuting as unpaid overtime to be avoided.

>>108041659
Get contacts no matter what, I was naive about vision correction and glasses ended my bloodline. I didn't understand what a massive neg it was. No you will not look like the cool model guy in the glasses advertisement. Glasses make you look like a lesbian.

>talk shit with the guys/male grads all day and have a giggle
>be absolute polite and professional around women/jews/management/hr, never joke around them. Always keep a certain distance from them.
anyone else? can't trust them.

>>108043233
The extremes are usually to be avoided. Full remote makes you retarded and weird, full on site is raping your time because of the commute. 2-3 Days on site is ideal, especially if you have cutie / fun coworkers and some benefits (good coffee machine, free snacks / drinks...)

>>108047563
>Full remote makes you retarded and weird
why did no one warn me about this? now it's too late to unfuck my shit and became normal enough to go back to working in an office

>>108047512
You're doing the smart thing.

>>108047512
Autie

>>108042805
Launch a Windows 11 VM and unfuck/debloat it

>>108047666
Any guys from bluecollar or engineering background, ex-army or just an old guy, I relax a little bit around until they've shown me their cards. If they're consultants/full time professional services, have those gay accents/inflections, I am on my guard. I can feel my internal gut scream to give them only necessary information.

>>108047689
In this game called soiciety, many people will screw you over for the sake of screwing you over.

>>108046008
homes are overrated. enjoy your suburban hell.
move around and experience things, be free

>>108041489
I'll stuff my junk in your box

>>108046088
You already have a bachelors degree, I would just try to worm your way into a job that's halfway between helpdesk and development, something like a business intelligence/data guy or maybe professional services, implementation/customization engineer, etc. Spin your helpdesk position as one where you were highly technical and doing some of those responsibilities already

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>>108047663
can confirm

>>108047663
I have wife and kids at home so I love full remote
I actually do 2 days a month in office and it's already too much

>>108048223
Not him, but I came from an engineering background + 2 years unemployment and doing exactly that right now. Helping customers set up interfaces between our system and external systems, helping them manage their data better, answering menial questions, because they can't pay attention for 5 minutes during a training, etc. I have no idea why they chose a mechanical engineer, either, guess small companies are really struggling for people. I don't understand half the shit all the devs are talking about. I can't code a single long of anything. Only the pay is shit now after a couple years, after everything became expensive.

What should I learn instead of doing work? I want to work on a side project instead of doing my web dev job.

I hate my current job. There's nothing to do and everyone is just pretending to act busy so they avoid suspicion. This happened after a merge with a bigger company and it completely ruined my role and expectations. I'm trying to so hard to find something else; it's reached a point where I'm actively avoiding 1:1s with my manage because I have nothing to show them. At this point I would rather be fired than continue with this bullshit, I just hope I can find another job first before they catch on and I start having a gap in my cv

>>108047689
I'm a consultant and this is actually pretty sad. We don't work for your company we're not snitching to your HR/manager.

>>108044450
approximately 65%

>>108047689
Same. Gen Xer here, when they start talking in that millennial/zoomer homosexual accent, alarm bells go off and I am not friendly with those types at all.
I don't know what it is but I'm sure you guys know what I'm talking about. That financial guy on youtube Caleb Hammer is a good example of it. They aren't actually gay but it's some kind of generational thing where they all talk like faggots now, I don't know when/how it started but I strictly avoid those people.

>>108047563
I was already retarded and weird.

>>108047663
yes.
i feel the day coming where i'll lose this wfh job and i'll have to settle for an onsite. the idea of commuting every day and being in an office around other people is nearly as big of a lifestyle change as starting work after neetdom.

>>108041456
>fired 14000 employees
>then hired 41000 jeets

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I got my walking cane ready
I got my watch and chain
A long time ago, you left me in the rain

>>108041456
hello guys.
i got a bachelors degree and ccna,
i worked in a graduate position for half a year and quit because they "trained" me for one month instead of the promised 4. It was a month of watching corporate culture videos, and then they threw me in the deep end.
every other graduate got 3-4 months training. took a year to decompress and then couldn't get back into the industry afterwards.
this was 3 years ago wtf do i do now.

>>108049057
>took a year to decompress
Fucking lol.
Try sending your resume to McDonalds.

>>108049057
>took a year to decompress
stay out of this industry man. you're way too much of a pussy

>>108049057
I sure do love firstoids who can take an entire year to "decompress" and still bitch about it

>>108049057
>this was 3 years ago wtf do i do now.
Put the fries in the bag

>>108049296
>>108049276
>>108049270
>>108049251
Thanks for the advice guy, but getting a McDonalds jobs are actually competitive here. (not america)
As funny as that may sound. I actually have no idea what to do.
Maybe I can hit the gym and get a night shift labor job or something.

>>108049270
What industry would be suitable for such a pussy then?Mother fuckers 5+ years ago said there would be sooo much demand in tech.

>>108049362
there is. just not for losers who cry about being thrown into the "deep end" and then needing a year off. try a female dominated industry instead.

>hey channel, permission A.Y works but permission A.X doesn't appear to work
>let me see... no permission A.X
>don't have it, or it doesn't work?
>silence

I hate when this dude responds to me questions. Everyone else is more engaging and helpful, and it's always feels like I'm pulling teeth with a passive aggressive homo

>>108049440
The only rejection letters i was getting that stated the number of applications they received stated thousands. how many of those applicants do you think were crybaby losers?

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>>107844332
>ffw 3 weeks
>in a call with him sharing his screen every day for two of those three weeks
>it werks
>start giving him more freedom
>goes back to doing fuckall when I'm not literally watching over his shoulder
>now he doesn't even pretend to work, two days in a row he didn't even log in until I called him out
this shit sucks, ken blanchard was a hack, micromanaging is the only viable leadership strategy

>>108049567
fucking fire him already you dumb cunt

>>108049603
I'm not his boss, I'm his senior, the only thing I can do is talk to our management about his performance which I was trying to avoid because I thought it would reflect badly on me but I now realize that was retarded on my part

>>108047563
>Full remote makes you retarded and weird
i dont need an office to socialize. i have friends for that

>>108049329
Just go find normal office job

>juggling four things in parallel
>authentication app crapped out again when I need access to that account
>two assholes on teams wont
>stop
>pinging
>me
>like
>this
>with
>pointless questions
>go do not disturb
>they call me to deliver their pointless questions in voice chat
SHUT
THE
FUCK
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP

>>108049815
I worked in an office where people would start chat conversations with "yt," meaning, "you there?" I ignored just about every one of those.

>>108049714
not trying to kick you while you're down, but for future reference, letting someone walk all over you, distract you from getting your actual work done, and fuck off all day reflects far worse on you than having a brief chat with your manager about how he's literally fucking off and refusing to work. you don't even need to make a big deal of it. just a "hey, as a heads up. the intern refuses to work. i'm holding his hand while i hover over his shoulder and 'help' him do stuff, and that seems to somewhat work, but it's unlikely he'll actually work on his own. let me know if you want me to change direction with this". then it's no longer your problem

how can i transfer my tech skills into another field entirely
thinking law
i'm fucking disgusted with what this industry has become

>>108049892
The intern could be the bosses nephew or diversity quota. A lot of times useless people are protected and you have to delicately dance around the fact that they don't do their job without looking like you're throwing them under the bus and without getting blocked yourself.

>>108049931
every day i thank god i work for the government and don't have to deal with any of this retarded bullshit

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It's fine. I'll just go to grad school and get my masters. The market will heal in 2 years and I'll be able to jump ship to FAANG making 300k+ tc

>>108046613
if you don't mind being fake, just take the job and extract as much money you can take from them as possible

>>108049944
Lol
LMAO
Our glownigs recently got in the news because a paki diversity hire, who was the son of a local councillor, got caught not only stealing secret docs but also had cp on his laptop - his work laptop
Government work here is reknown for neppo babies.


>>108049931
We had one of those, nephew of a director
Basically didn't do anything as far as we knew, so jokes around the office were that he was basically there as a fluffer for his manager.

>job posting and hr interview heavily stress that they use cursor
ehm ok? it's just an IDE at the of the day?
I don't code that much anyway (devops), so that's fine by me, but why keep saying it

>>108045182
>one year ago was five years ago

>>108050761
they are either trying to signal that they pay for the latest fad tools or they are trying to signal that they expect you to shit out things with an LLM far faster than anyone could review it because lines of code is back to being a metric people like to wave around again for some reason. It would be a red flag to me and I would press them on it, but I am a dev. For devops it's not likely to matter as much.

>>108050761
They want to make it clear that they will not be left behind

>>108050947
Could be because they are a scaleup that has been superseded by other technologies

>>108046108
I've felt nauseous around work time for the past couple weeks, but I think I've got some illness going on.

>>108047563
>>108047663
Don't fall for this middle manager's bullshit. Full time remote has zero downsides. That's why managers want to kill it so they can make their subordinates suffer.

>>108049815
>>108049866
gay little pings and abbreviations like yt are ok to ignore, but how do we feel about slop? Not LLM slop, but misspelled words, then not than, missing the and a and other random words, no punctuation, out of context ideas, and O instead of oh?

To think this guy is a senior manager... just how.

>>108051144
I'd rather communicate with sloppy typists than anyone who lets an LLM do any writing or editing for them at all. I have had to wrangle retards who send LLM output full of hallucinations straight to clients that I am trying to help with issues. It is an absolute nightmare and far worse than people using AOL tier messaging styles in what should be professional communications.

>>108051161
but you can read the LLM output and make sense of it. Then not than and omitting words to the extent he does it makes it impossible to derive meaning. I get that happens with your LLM messages too?

>>108051177
>but you can read the LLM output and make sense of it
no you can't. When someone leans so heavily on an LLM to produce something you have to question if they even understand the stuff in that content that is accidentally correct. To give a more concrete example of the shit I am dealing with I was recently having to help a few IT guys (indians, so language barrier is already a factor) at a client deal with an issue that was technically their networking problem but it was mainly affecting the thing we sold them so I was spending time to help them. Someone else on our end of the email chain took some internal notes I was writing about the issue as I researched it and used it to reply to them with a 5 paragraph email full of shit that didn't matter and shit that was wrong. My actual reply with the fix for their issue was a 3 sentence recommendation on some configuration to change that they were able to do within 30 minutes. The LLM nonsense was negative value communication.

>>108050761
no idea but I'd guess they want you to automate your whole job. sounds to me like that.

>>108043846
more than 75% of the companies I ever worked for went under or got bought by someone larger.

> screen share
> give solution
> colleague rerolls an llm repeatedly
> output keeps failing
> a few min pass
> i'll get back to you
> sure
could i have helped, maybe, but it was like looking at lemming fumble around while thinking they can't be that helpless

llms are gatcha for work with all the superstitions and addiction loop except you don't get a big payout only that you get to finish your work

>CTO says everyone should be using AI
>But not too much because it costs a lot
I'm going to bankrupt these niggas

>>108044959
>"just work in a windowless box that you can't take any outside devices into with zero possibility of hybrid or remote"
No thanks

>>108051773
My manager told me not to use AI at all which sucks because I don't even like programming all that much.

Do any of you guys actually use SOLID principles in your work, or is it just managerial idealistic waffle when they talk about embracing clean code?

I think I only really use the first two

>>108051810
>not interested in a job where you have to work during the time you are paid
Now we've hit upon the root issue. You watched too many "day in the life of a girl who sleeps with her tech boss" videos and thought that's how things should be for every job

>work remote in NA (leaf) for euro org
>boss put in his two weeks at start of Jan
>since then poojeeta PM and poojeeta dev (both in UK) longhouse the entire team
>stand ups go for 45 mins
>I just drop after 15 now and they don’t even notice as they cackle like hens about nothing
>tag me in random bullshit, do this don’t merge that though, be proactive be not too proactive
Today was the final straw though
>poojeeta dev @ me, sends reply to channel tags poo pm with red alert emoji
>ANON Please do not push fixes to PRs you are reviewing they are for me to implement as the implementer
>i fixed her logic for an edge case and added a single unit test
Can women just go back to child rearing? They treat every piece of work they have as a replacement for the child they chose not to have.

>>108052075
I don't know why women love meetings so much. My old manager barely even sent me teams messages and now I have daily meetings for hours and hours. Every day we lie about what we did and every week we make excuses for why those lies didn't actually happen. I hate this performative bullshit.

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Any tips for a cybersecurity job interview?

>>108052075
>ANON Please do not push fixes to PRs you are reviewing they are for me to implement as the implementer
I kind of agree with the poojeeta. Don't touch my shit, nigger

Are there any real cons for developing a substance habit as a coping mechanism for my job?

>>108052075
>leaf
>Can women just go back to child rearing?
Woah there Hadji, in the west we treat women as equals not firewood

>>108052113
Wear a trenchcoat, fedora, and dark sunglasses

>>108052128
Beer and fags are taxed out the arse
Drugs are expensive and fund blacks and browns

>>108052118
>tying your ego to a Jira ticket
You must be a woman too.

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Today has been a good day. I didnt really do anything. I spent the day smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee and eating other peoples food from the break room. Sometimes life is easy.

>>108051144
>To think this guy is a senior manager... just how
Managers use typos and random abbreviations to dab on you. They have the write :) to speak to you however they want, but you damn well better be professional back. Pussy

>>108051773
I'm going full ham on token spending on random shit
I want them to bleed out their agentic asses

On Monday, my manager politely told me to chill as I made upper management reconsider setting higher KPI. How to achieve that without going overboard?
Today he asked me if got any video games I like.

>>108052075
she was right in that case, leave a comment on the PR and that's it

>>108042003
You must be making minimum wage if the hospital doesn't even have a computer for you.

>>108042390
kys zoomie

>>108052402
I am, in fact, making minimum wage.

>>108052419
Y-y-y-yikes!

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>>108052410
no I don't think I will lol
when the jeets you hired over me fail to keep your company afloat and your stock tanks, I'll ask you for $400 an hour to fix their garbage
>NOOOO U CAN'T DO THAT NOOO
then I'll keep neeting lmao. good luck with the jeets (and chinks stealing your IP and sending it to china)
the neets shall inherit the earth

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I'm just here to complain about my job. Thank you for listening.

>>108052436
>when the jeets you hired over me fail to keep your company afloat and your stock tanks, I'll ask you for $400 an hour to fix their garbage
My company doesn't employ foreigners :)

>>108052129
we use them as goyslaves and prostitutes instead

>>108052435
Better than no wage.

>more responsibilities
>literal less pay
>vibeflation
>still going through the motions that I actually give a shit

>>108052113
Hand the interviewer a picture of his house and a screenshot of his bank account balance.

>Do you have any experience using LLMs?
>Yeah novel ai and janitor ai
Is how I'm always tempted to respond

>>108047563
I wanna chop your head off you linkedin HR whore

I am resigning at some point this week and am not sure how to. Previous jobs where I quit it was always conveniently timed with something ending to where offboarding was simple, but I'm currently in the middle of a massive project that no other devs could take from me. The company I'm quitting is a dysfunctional circus (the ceo and cto are off vibe coding a completely different app from the one we actually sell) so I don't really care too much that the work gets abandoned, but I'm afraid that some poor guy on my soon to be former team is going to get saddled with it when it would be better for them to just abandon it.

>>108053146
>but I'm afraid that some poor guy on my soon to be former team is going to get saddled with it when it would be better for them to just abandon it.
ok but how is that your problem

>>108053162
it ultimately isn't but the guy I think will get it is a decent dev and a good person but is not familiar with the area the project is in at all (I handle all infra/deployment shit on top of feature work and the project is related to the former exclusively). I have issues with some of the other people there but not him. He is significantly less experienced than me and I would feel bad if my leaving made his job suck when he may have more trouble finding new work than me.

>>108053183
ok but how is that your problem

>apply at a modern company
attach resume, autofills info, hit submit.
1 minute.
>apply at a public institution, state government or municipality
attach resume, fill out 2x supplemental questionaires containing long form questions with overlapping answers, manually fill in experience and education and references and everything else that's already in the resume, can't do some of it because some of the required fields won't have values, answer questions again.
2 hours.

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i hate this job so fucking much

>>108053190
yeah but guess which one is full of jeets

>>108052512
You're barely making enough to stay afloat.

>>108053190
Job security in a government job is great though and you get far more regular payrises.

>8 years ago
>had free reign over the system to make any kind of changes I need to
>now, after a corporate buyout
>make one tiny change to patch something
>have an entire army of overseas jeet admins breathing down my neck interrogating me
didn't know how good i had it

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My retarded fucking country forces me to pay for a entrepreneur's pension insurance. As if I will ever care about my pension I'll get after 50 years or so. This is so fucking retarded, I'm forced to pay for the pensions of current boomers. Fuck this fucking shit like what the fuck is this shit? I tried, I fucking tried but now I'll waste 10 000€ on fucking useless pension insurance. And they said I should become a private contractor. This country takes everything from you, I already pay my taxes and now this, what next?

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>>108053503
>mfw I'm one these faggots bullying app/sys managers
Test your shit nigga

>>108042986
Is it actually a good idea to include an interests bullet? I don't hate the idea, desu.

>>108053627
depends on the interests

Somehow I landed an interview for a game dev position despite having no experience with game programming or engines and didn't imply any in my CV. My previous position was at a large company mostly doing internal-facing web dev and microservices. Should I try and bullshit or be upfront that I don't know anything about game dev?

>>108053627
if its anything like gaming, anime or some other cringe: dont add it

>>108053716
Maybe just look up their stack and do some little demo stuff so you can say you're interested and building knowledge.

I am about to get the boot soon due to negligence.
>fucked up a Jira ticket that could potentially cost additional hours for the entire team to fix up
>management begrudgingly agreed to go through with the decision despite the cost of fixing the mistake outweighing the benefits
I was only 3 months into my role as a fresh college graduate. This slipped past my senior who reviewed my work due to outdated documentations (this was admitted by the other team).

The other senior who pushed hard for this seems to have it out against me. I'm not sure the company has enough grounds to get me fired. The blame has been shifted on me instead of the senior who reviewed my work.

>>108053846
>I was only 3 months into my role as a fresh college graduate.
And you guys wonder why AI is replacing juniors lol

>>108053716
Don't bullshit. Any competent interviewers will see through it instantly. Just show your skills and your willingness to learn something new. Getting into gamedev for an experienced engineer isn't actually that hard, as long as you can show that you're actually willing to stick around and not just do it for a year or something.

how does /twg/ deal with burn out?

>>108054108
I shrimply don't get burnt out

>>108054108
Pushing that sweet sweet Sell RSUs button on Schwab.

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>>108053846
Is SWE in the USA really this ride or die or is this just a new grad having a meltdown?

>>108054118
it's an incompetent new grad on his probation having a meltdown because he's trash

>>108054126
That seems a little black and white. You’re going to make mistakes as a new grad. Speaks volumes more about how you react to mistakes than making one at that stage IMO. Already being in cover your ass mode that early doesn’t seem good lol

>>108054162
if a new grad is being given significant enough work that if will take effort from the entire team to fix then it's not soma random intern ticket, they're treating you as a proper dev
I have never made such a mistake and I've been working for 4 years

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>put an nvidia p40 in the home-lab setup i deployed for the sole purpose of testing a production stack with internal MCP tool functioning
if they ask i'm going to say that this will help me optimize mcp tools so they spend less on tokens since apparently they only pay for services and dont own much [or at least dont own 'most' of what they deploy], like for VMs and AI calling
and yeah, using the p40 helps i think, it made me fully aware that things need further optimized because im new to this. As a chat-bot, it works, as an agent that is supposed to use 10+ recursive tool calls before responding to a user; it doesnt quite fit the demands.

First i tried ollama, and it didnt meet my requirements. Then vllm but i couldnt get my docker image to support it. Now im on llama.cpp which seems to be the better option. Have any of you tried intensive recursive tool calling locally? My MCP is also probably a massive detriment and i need to completely re-write it (and the prompt) to reduce tokens used

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>>108046088
This anon again.

So /g/entlemen, what do you think is a good qualifier for "this person can handle a web dev job"/"I would hire this person for a web dev job" ?

Trying to get some ideas for research/projects or just ideas on how to break into web dev (I know that's a faggy meme thing to say)

>>108054391
Fuck off we’re full.

>>108053846
>it was the reviewers fault!

Literally indian, I hope you get fired.

I keep finding em dashes in my company's intranet posts, they're not even trying to fucking hide it

>>108053846
>could potentially cost additional hours for the entire team to fix up
literally nothing

>>108042003
Job 32 - [SUBSISTENCE]

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Today I met with my manager in his office and he smelled like ass

>Microsoft just randomly disables integral feature my job hinges on on a random Thursday
>all my shit is broken and I have to try and scramble to rebuild it some other way
Thanks I guess

>>108054647
small price to pay for enterprise stability

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Thoughts on just skipping the job post queue and reaching out to CTO/CEO on LinkedIn for smallish companies? I feel like this is mostly interpreted as high agency and it’s getting me interviews

>>108054860
>Why is this uppity ass goyim messaging me?
>*delete*

Should I apply for a dev job with a well known defense contractor, or will that blackball me from Big Tech since I'll be assumed to be a retard for having ever worked there? It doesn't seem to be a contract for anything people respect like aerospace. The nice thing is that it's a significant pay bump, and it gets me out of a location I've come to hate.

>another day, another linkedin email from an ex-amazon employee begging for a job

I love seeing motherfuckers on Team who bothered to change the skin tone of their thumbs-up emoji JUST LEAVE IT ON YELLOW

>>108055086
it's hilarious because you see multiple thumbs up stacking and there's a single retard on his own

>>108055086
its funny when the indians always choose a shade lighter than their actual skin color

>>108055117
the only one with a (white) colored emoji on my team is the south american

>>108055086
>>108055110
>>108055117
Where I work, I've only ever seen White employees do this

>>108055086
It’s a signal that works in your favour as you now know who you should avoid in your company. You need to be absolutely stone faced around these people lest they complain to management.

you know a dude is employed when he's got words to share about MS Teams

>>108052113
Explain what happens when you connect to google.com and learn what dns tunneling and log poisoning are. Be able to explain what a SIEM is. These questions came up a lot. Do a live demo of a personal project.

>>108053146
not your problem

it's over tech workers I farted and shitted absolutely everywhere and my zoom camera was on. I think I'm fired. It's over.

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>>108054108
>how does /twg/ deal with burn out?
asian boypussy

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>>108055257
wish that was me
why cant i just be a cute japanese girl wearing cute clothes and cook and sew and snooze all day
no i wont be a tranny i am an ugly man

Everytime I go to the office I fart as soon as I sit at my desk, do you think this protects me?

>>108055274
Yeah but then youd be forced to fuck me for 50 bucks an hour. God I cant wait to go back in May. Last time I saw Nanako a few months ago I was unemployed and he gave me a big GOOD RUCK and raised his fist up when I left. Now I have a comfy wfh job.

>>108055142
The only people I know who did that are Jeets, one using the dark skin and 2 or 3 using the light skin

>>108055086
triggered lmao

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>>108055274
Wear kigu and you can be the cute feminine male

>>108055500
Where do I buy this getup and how much are they?

>>108055500
i can't tell whether i love or hate kigus
i would probably have sex with one, though

>>108055567
The internet. If you can do a lot yourself it can be inexpensive, if you need to buy pre-made you're anywhere from like $400-2000 depending on quality and how fancy the cosplay is.

tranny wanking general

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>>108055816
Unironically considering adding this to my resume
I have 1/4 of a page empty, why not
>increasing shareholder value
>dreaming in code
>modded minecraft
>studying documentation

>>108053339
Yeah, but what can you do? I've been looking for a job for 6 months.

Miniature mother wage

>be sysadmin and only it person
>paid around avg sys admin range here
>trying to teach myself intune and implementing at same time, migrate our email off Gmail, fix the fucked up network I inherited, add door controls, upgrade to ipcams, and also improve our in house app
>Boss thinks access has been "discontinued and no longer being developed" so dump a fuck ton of money into developing an app that could've been just hosted in azure instead of paying for the same shit but in Indian flavor
Fuck it, they can pay me for some certs and equipment and then I'm bailing the fuck out.

>>108052128
I'm starting to wonder the same thing anon

>>108052128
>>108056185
by that point, why don't you just leave your job and find something more bearable?

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>get bored with current job
>some roastie recruiter begs me to have an interview
>first interview is a phone call with team leader
>thought we would just talk about my background and what not
>suddenly starts asking questions about Python
>who the fuck asks technical questions over a phone call
>decorators, generators, iterators, how are they implemented with dunders
>completely forgot these details because I deal with them once a year maybe
>get rejected
Kek nice wakeup call I guess.

>>108056480
because I have job security and can't imagine Just Another Software Engineering Job to be "more bearable", especially with the flexibility and "unlimited" PTO that I have
the issue I have is how demanding it feels and how they keep tracking our performance like we're robots
I don't even care anymore about the promotion they've been dangling in front of my face for a fucking year, it's obviously not going to happen and although I don't make much it's enough I guess
I'm just a whiny bitch and I just enjoy weed and the occasional whiskey
I'm on another one of those periods of sobriety since last week to "clear the fog" and simply not appreciating it

>>108046016
nobody gives a fuck about your degree

>>108052128
Depends on the substance, I've been an on and off stoner for several years (since before my first tech job) and the worst part has just been a little complacency-induced guilt which is not that bad, considering

>>108056712
Did they have an indian accent

>>108056815
Ive heard about so-called unlimited PTO before, how does it work in reality?

>>108057413
>how does it work in reality?
peer pressure to not be the one guy who takes more than others
i.e. it results in people taking less because there's always some tryhard who doesn't take pto.
i'm just guessing though, haven't been in one

>>108056815
you use weed every day?
for how long at a time?
how long are breaks?

>>108053583
those who cant, something something.

>>108048223
>helpdesk
>highly technical
lmao

>>108056815
>can't imagine Just Another Software Engineering Job to be "more bearable"
>how demanding it feels and how they keep tracking our performance like we're robots
>flexibility and "unlimited" PTO
LOL, LMAO even. you can't imagine because you are burnt out and your brain is in the process of being fried.
take a month-long vacation and see if that flexibility and unlimited PTO are real / worth anything.

>>108057413
you'll hear a lot of may mays about it but as for the ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION it's usually that you're allowed to make your banked vacation day count go negative and just have to make up for it later, or it's normal vacation days but their use is more easy than normal and it's more "unrestricted pto" than "unlimited pto"

in very Very VERY rare cases it actually is just "ask your manager when you can just like not come in but there is no upper limit on vacation/sick days per year" but that is super rare

but usually not because hr roasties need to have their hands in everything so as soon as that kind of thing starts to get tracked by some oracle shitware instead of by your manager using a spreadsheet, now it works like the "your days can just go negative lol", and before long it just becomes "you have a defacto count of days so lets just make it a facto count of days but not have as many rules on taking them"

>>108055117
sir brahmin are white you benchod bitch

I'm on a meeting that could have been a docx, it's been one fucking hour, my salary is barely subsistence tier, my boss is a fucking retard, and most important of all, I'm fucking stupid. I'm tired and depressed, bros, sorry for blogposting, but I'm a friendless loser with no one to talk.

>>108055893
Learn to code?

>>108059210
it's okay man we're all in the same boat. sometimes turning your brain off helps. sometimes it doesn't. every deliverable i hand in comes back with like 20x more work and it's just like holy fuck none of this shit matters...

>>108057413
I simply request time off whenever I want for however (reasonably) long I want and she approves it
I just tell them "I'm not feeling well and need to rest" whenever I want
it's pretty nice and is probably the main reason why I'm still at this company
>>108058137
when I have weed I use it a lot for months, I hit a vape cartridge a few times every 2 hours or so, and if I'm smoking that's twice a day (1g joint)
for the past 5 years I did sober october and some other 2-4 week breaks throughout the year but decided this past october fuck it, I'm done doing that and can decide whenever else to take breaks
>>108058947
you're right that I'm burnt out and I recently took a 3-week international vacation but came back to the same old bullshit, so yeah it didn't help in that regard

anons how do I get away from webdev
if I have to work with rest apis and fix another server shitting itself for another year I will kill myself

>>108059344
you move to utwg

I called off sick today and my boss just said "Understood, feel better!" and it seemed ominous to me. I've been here 3 years and I still can't escape the raging paranoia that I will be fired at any moment.

>>108059355
my boss does the same, just ignore it. i do and i've been here for longer than i thought i would have. for somethings i just go autopilot, i'm probably moody as hell working in the office but i have the most happy default responses people think im a nice guy lmao

>>108059229
I did. I have a bachelor's degree in software engineering. But this is just the foundation of employment. You also need experience, which is what I'm getting right now.

>>108059344
learn to weld

What was being a tech worker like 10-15 years ago? Must've been amazing. You could spend an entire day debugging one error and reading docs to pad out your time.

>>108059349
>>108059464
but I like programming

>>108059490
>he doesn't have a two-axis gcode driven spot welder

>>108059397
>I did.
Sounds like you didn't? If you *really* knew how to code, you wouldn't be six months unemployed?

>>108059531
>Knowing how to code means being able to get a coding job any time you want

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>>108058128
it works like that in companies with set pto limits too. also if its a multinational, expect major seething from americans whenever the europeans take any vacation whatsoever. my last company had limited pto days and i cooked the books to take almost double weeks off lmao.
pic related

can someone post the generational work stereotypes chart again? those are always fucking funny

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Who /slacker/ here?
I had a three weeks vacation on christmas where I did pretty much nothing but sleep 9-10h a day, read, play video games, and go for a walk in nature and I have felt really good since then.
I'm not looking for a better paying job anymore, instead I'm just slacking off. I wake up and watch 90s anime, work for a couple of hours, then workout on the clock, do house chores, so when the clock strikes 17:00 I have no obligations.
And since I'm in a better mood people are happier with me at work.
I've seen the light.

>>108059627
sorta here, it's ruined by my weekly 1:1s or weekly team meetings where my boss promises big initiative. but not really pushing or passing the buck on any of them. so it's this whole kinda "well......are we going to do any work on this or not?"

>>108059344
learn about secure coding, move to security, either to the offensive side (as an "web API security specialist"), or to the defensive side (secure coding, specialized in web APIs)

>>108059302
>you're right that I'm burnt out and I recently took a 3-week international vacation but came back to the same old bullshit, so yeah it didn't help in that regard
how many hours do you work in a week on average?
maybe you should try getting another job then? have you tried talking to ex-coworkers

>>108059355
I feel like the constant "tech company is firing workers" news is a campaign to make us feel bad about taking time off instead of enslaving ourselves for big corporations.

Tfw when nafo boomer collogue who rants about Russian hackers.

>>108042003
Donations are tax deductable and value of same can be within reason whatever is on the receipt. That's how community colleges get equipment to tear down for their mechatronics, welding etc classes then after its expended they legally scrap it for cash. You can also donate stuff to them you don't need. It's pretty cool. The non-profit can let you carry off free shit they get in return for a smol cash donation. Look into it by getting with your local CC's trade instructors like welding as they would know the process.

Your local ewaste resellers have plenty of computers and related they'd like to write off as donations. You could end up with shitloads of quite decent hardware.

>>108059627
I'm a slacker but I think I'm gonna get fired. Oh well...

>>108059355
I called off sick last Tuesday because I was insanely hung over, but now I've actually been ill as fuck today but couldn't call in sick because it would look suspicious. You win some you lose some. That was a great Monday night

>>108059627
I need to be like you. I somehow lucked into a comfy job where I never really have to do anything. It just makes me depressed though, so I start doing things but then I get bitched at by the (non-technical) product owner.

>>108060090
If you start doing this the most important thing is not to draw heat towards you.
Keep everyone happy and be polite. If anyone dislikes you he will eventually find a way to fuck you over, most likely talking shit about you to management, which could mean them taking a closer look at your performance.

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>>108059696
half my DoD coworkers were like that

>start new job
>grind through all the HR/knowbe4 videos in a day
>one of them is a crazy long 1.5 hour sex harassment vid as usual
>today for whatever reason they loaded 4 more sex harassment videos onto my account

HR is deranged. Are we sure this isn't projection?

>>108060563
It's either that or you work with indians.

>>108059677
I work 40 hours a week and fuck around most days, showing up late, taking long breaks, and ending the day when I feel like I did enough (usually 5:30-6:30)
I should try getting another job and do plan on it but like I said, I doubt it will change how much I dislike corpo
and yes I have freelanced before and it's not easier
not sure what talking to ex-coworkers would do... but I will be talking to another therapist next week, hoping that does something for me this time

>>108059912
who says you can't feel ill separate weeks in the same month? it literally doesn't matter

>>108059302
>when I have weed I use it a lot for months, I hit a vape cartridge a few times every 2 hours or so, and if I'm smoking that's twice a day (1g joint)
that's why too much nigger

>total compensation will be 10% lower this year
>responsibilities up
>oWnERShiP!
>still want me to do gay shit like business trips
I'm quite demoralized, only upside is I defied RTO and I'm still making a decent salary.
Idk if I should try to find another job or try my hand at some AI content stuff or other entrepreneurial ventures.

Anon's, does this get any better if you go past support? I was a Technical Support Engineer for some software company. Thankfully, it dealt with a lot of DevOp's technologies so a transition would be "easy". But this shit burned me out pretty hard that I don't have much hope.

>>108060771
I only need 6 more years until FIRE

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wait i got a promotion and i still feel like i have no drive to do anything i thought money solves everything

>>108060699
yeah I meant to say two .5g joints but it is a lot
what am I supposed to do, somehow prevent myself from using weed during the day, and only use it at night? I might as well not use it at all
we'll see how long this current break lasts