>>108051734
>robot does your homework
>fail the test
zoomers are Deprecated

>be in an environment that promotes critical thinking and problem solving
>use a tool to solve your problems with max efficiency
>get punished and penalized for it
honestly it's just boomers seething that zoomers are going full mask-off on the system and exposing it for what it is: get the degree and fuck off to learn actual valuable skills
boomers are still stuck in the 80s/90s believing absurd shit like
>high trust society (after they voted to bring in gorillions of illegals)
and
>loyalty
and
>hard working
and
>pulling yourself by the bootstraps + bee urself :) + firm handshake
or something

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>>108051776
if AI does everything and you understand nothing, you are literally disposable slop.
and you WANT that future?

Just use your brain. Boomers did it without the internet and got cheap houses. Millenials, Zoomers and Alphas lost.

>>108051764
No, anon, you're supposed to say: zoomers are COOKED!

all people except the 1% become worthless unemployed meat. zoomers think AI will keep them alive, entertained and everything will be free when what you are witnessing is the Big Reset

let's sacrifice everything for short term gains. customers will put up with terrible quality until you got your bonus, students won't be paid much anyway because ai does all the work so who cares if the know anything. faster faster until everything is slop

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>>108051734
-17% exam results for -80% work seems like a fantastic trade actually. Nobody's gonna fail to acquire their degree because their exam scores were 17% lower. And nobody is going to check their exact exam scores later.
Plus when getting degrees and applying for a job, nepo babies get priority anyway. So how real is the correlation between academic achievement and prosperity, really?

They're concerned about "skill acquisition" but all the richest and most successful people have no skills at all, and some can barely write a coherent sentence.

When intelligent, driven individuals aspiring to higher education prompt AIslop for pointless tasks it's "metacognitive laziness", but when CEOs making 7-8 figures do it, they're courageous and innovative?
They're just "driving adoption" bro. They're "leveraging new technologies". Isn't this what you wanted??? lololol

>>108051860
The only thing that makes me happy is knowing that once (they) will finally get rid of everyone to replace us inferior peasants with their AI shit, they'll live in a world of slop.
Billionaires sitting all day at home with every single one of their stolen cents, all they'll do all day will be look at AI movies where the actors slightly change in every scene, playing AI videogames with ever changing geometry, and reading the millionth variation of the same fake praise from AI bootlickers on their barely functioning vibe coded phones. We'll be dead, but there's something comforting about knowing they'll be living in a hell they created themselves.

>>108052080
I'm not an expert in this kind of things but if the economy collapses don't their whole fortune lose any value? I'm not talking about some layoffs here and there (even important ones), I'm talking about whole sectors being replaced. From what I'm assisting at work, entire legitimate industries are being destroyed right now. And I'm not talking about some web coder.

>>108051776
>get exposed to a problem AI can't solve
>begins to cry because you never developed the skills needed to learn how to solve problems.

>>108051734
total zoomer retardation

>>108051776
>you cant use thing on test
>use thing
>fail test
>blame everyone but yourself
Retarded.

>>108051776
If the machine is solving the problems, what do they need you for? You are not required

>>108051734
AI marketting jeets invent these "studies" to make parents think they need to buy their kid an AI or he'll fail school.
Kids can use AI, get fabulous grades, and not know how to do anything because AI did all the thinking for them.

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>>108052672
heres an even better one:
>use shatbots for everything
>develop no skill whatsoever
>sam altman hikes prices to 1000 usd/mo subscriptions
>cognitive abilities are behind a hefty paywall now, and you can use em only for 30 mins per day
>not ok with that but dont even possess the skill to articulate ideas... theyre behind the paywall...
im perfectly ok with that
in 10 years zoomies will prostitute themselves for food
and that situation will mature at the perfect point when ill be getting actually old

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>>108052820
>use technology for everything
>develop no skill whatsoever
>[capital owner] hikes prices
>ability to make money is behind a hefty paywall now
>not ok with that but dont even possess the skill to survive on my own... theyre behind the paywall...
So it's the same shit that's already been happening for 200 years?

>>108052851
holy shit
i didnt look at it from this perspective but this is a good angle
have a you

>>108051734
>What's the point if everyone uses AI anyway now?
What do you think the point was up to this point? Obedience is all that's needed.

Retards will do anything to avoid actually learning. Such cases.

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This is a great opportunity. Don't use AI at any cost, let retards fry their brains with it, you'll become smarted than average, because the average intelligence will go down. Eventually AI will get expensive, or their gonna be in some situation they can't use it, and realize how dependant they are on it, and you'll get ahead because you still know how to think for yourself.

>>108053052
If you already made this assumption you should already know the sheer scale of the collapse that this level of incompetency could cause, you're better off making yourself as self reliant as you can.

>>108053052
If you actually read the article, you wouldn't be saying this. It says that "educational" generative AI has a positive impact on both students' learning performance and teachers' teaching performance, while "general purpose" generative AI has negative impact on performance.

>>108051831
Can we eat them?

>>108051776
Observe the niggercattle in its native environment.

>>108054444
Bro asked if we can eat them xD

>>108051734
the year is 2027 based anons will do things like think through complex arguments and identify contradictions in logic all without pulling out their phones. even more based anons will extrapolate points of information from absolutely nothing but ramen noodles and pure experience. what I'm saying is this: have a plan anon, do not get co-opted.

>>108051776
but you didn't solve the problem. you solved a different problem. anyone can do anything if you can just redefine the goal

>>108052046
Hard to find fault with this when my professors give me AI generated questions but I'm not allowed to give AI generated responses.

>>108051734
If you don't learn how to think hard and practice it from time to time, you'll end up being unable to do it even when that would be the only thing that could distinguish you from an AI. People like that are ready to be turned into dog food, just need a little more fattening up.

>>108051776
>use a tool to solve your problems with max efficiency
there's a difference between using a tool to solve a problem and the tool solving the problem.
did you also refuse to learn the multiplication table because you use a calculator to solve it "with max efficiency"?

>>108054831
God I hate late zooms so much is unreal

>>108054839
the Jew fears the pasta diviner

>>108054444
>>108055444
holy checked

>>108051734
>Is it time we just cancelled all exams
Sounds like exams are doing their job.

>>108052891
He not the first one to make these kinds of points.
AI evangelists talk about the increased productivity, people being able to work half the time and increase leisure hours, the the first thing companies do it fire staff and replace them with AI. The remainder don't get pay raises either, still have to work the same (or more) hours and only the top brass get the increased income.
AI isn't coming to make our lives better, it's coming to make the wealthy even wealthier and they don't give a shit about you.

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>>108052544
>I will naturally be accepted as the warlord once my money has no value :)

>>108051734
this is like arguing that industrial looms made people bad at weaving. yeah, but they got 1000x better at making t-shirts.

cope and seethe luddites.

>>108051734
Practicing with the AI is the same as just looking up the answers in the back of the book. You feel like you're learning and making smart decisions because the AI gives you the answers and you think 'Oh, of course it's like that. Anyone could tell' but the part that's important is deriving the answer yourself, not getting the answer. Using AI as a brain replacement fucks up more than just your ability to do exams and there should be classes teaching students that .

>>108051776
>>use a tool to solve your problems with max efficiency
You used a tool to do your thinking for you and got punished for not thinking or problem solving ,yes.

This is another way of the exam telling you that you're an idiot who looked up all the answers.

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>>108051734
LMAO

Cockroaches want us to use their dog shit artificial we wuz White European alphabet because they're sperging out that typing turkey in Google shows pictures of the bird first.

>>108051734
Let's not pretend these exams weren't AI generated too

>>108051776
what boomers are really doing is seething because zoomies will crash the pension system.

>>108052046
this.

It's a good thing that AI is getting so good, we don't have to worry about the declining birthrate if we can just make an AI to think and do things for us.

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>>108056808
>i would have totally passed the tests if they weren't AI generated!
Cope.
Did the questions cover the material? Who cares how it was made.

>>108051776
you forgot the "shalom"

>>108055047
>did you also refuse to learn the multiplication table because you use a calculator to solve it "with max efficiency"?
I never learned it because I could always calculate it in my head when needed (taking 10x longer than the people who learned it by heart)
maybe I'm just a retard though, because learning it by heart is clearly the more efficient way. but now at the age of 30 there's no way I can ever learn it properly

>>108056330
No it's not since the chatbots would actually pass the exams. Only the humans are failing them.

honestly i feel my brain has shrinked from using llm to much for vibecoding.I might stop it.

>>108056404
is right i feel

>>108057392
t. brainlet teacher generating exams and material

>>108058116
>no argument
See? Pure cope.

>>108051764
The youngest of zoomers are pretty much in the middle of high school by this point.

>>108051860
Coding and porn creation are not the majority of the economy. Most jobs will require AGI to replace.

AGI is God and God won't give a shit about property rights. They will be first against the wall.

>>108058130
you sound mad

>>108058200
Impossible. I'm not the one failing exams that were on the covered material.

>>108058155
LLMs can't code well enough to be reliable, and it CERTAINLY can't debug. All AI is good for is porn desu, and even then it all starts looking samey after a while.

>>108051823
The guys who built analog guidance systems for Minuteman missiles using slide rules.. These people don't exist anymore.

I wish I had AI in school. In middle and higschool I aced all my exams but often fell into the B range for my overall grades, simply because I refused to do homework. AI would've been a godsend to take care of trivial bullshit that I didn't need to do. Let me study on my own terms, not just waste time with bullshit for the sake of it.
Did much better in college, where all my grades were exam based anyway.

>>108058369
Don't kid yourself. You wouldn't have aced your exams if you had AI doing all your homework.
You would have checked out of class.

>>108051734
People should be allowed to take an exam (with different questions) as many times as they like as long as they pay for the privilege.
Taking exams is a good way to learn the material.

>>108058404
Taking exams is a good way of passing exams. You won't magically start understanding the topic.

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Incredible how you retards miss the trees for the forest
the task (getting degree and anything surrounding it) is literally not important, it doesn't provide skills or valuable knowledge that you couldn't get from somewhere else (half of the courses are based on ancient texts that are available for free anyway, why reinvent the wheel), it's just optimizing the boring and useless work so you can focus on shit that actually matters (i.e. learning actual """skills""")
>>108051814
>AI does everything
it literally doesn't
>and you understand nothing,
your projection and assumption
>literally disposable slop.
just like 99.9% of people throughout the entire human history, cattle you can extract wealth from that can also get slaughtered in wars while you have fun on the island with bros
>you WANT that future?
no because (You) already voted for this future and it's already in place
>>108052617
>get exposed to a problem AI can't solve
and try to solve it yourself if it's important, correct
>you never developed the skills
college doesn't give you skills, keep seething
>>108052672
>you cant use thing on test
nobody said that
>>108052756
>what do they need you for?
to solve important problems, not college exams
>You are not required
projection
>>108054845
>but you didn't solve the problem
yes I literally did
my problem is "get degree" so I use a tool to achieve that with max. efficiency, not sure what's so hard to comprehend
>you solved a different problem
no I literally solved the problem that I needed to solve
>if you can just redefine the goal
the goal is very clear
>>108055047
the problem is not important enough to be solved without automation
>>108056406
>got punished
except I wasn't
>for not thinking or problem solving
wrong because I came up with a solution to my problem which is literally the definition of problem solving
>exam telling you that you're an idiot who looked up all the answers.
except I still pass the exam and get the degree

>>108058404
In ye olden days in Europe it was like that, you had tons of students taking 10 years for a 4 year study. Better times.

>>108058507
Why do people still pretend that jobs are harder than college?

>>108058583
why do you people pretend that college is important and not just busywork?
if the job is also dumb and boring it should get automated too

>>108058526
It is still the case. I took 7 years to complete the 3 years CS uni course

>>108051734
>Offloading cognitive tasks to general-purpose chatbots creates risks of metacognitive laziness
Thats not using AI to learn

Do you think humans will be replaced or merge with AI? Once AI becomes smarter then we are there really isn't a point to baseline humans anymore is there? But if cybernetic implants are a thing by that point here might still be a role for humans to fill.

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>be retard from my generation (millennials) or older
>ridicule younger generation for "brain rot" or whatever other term we use to describe their cognitive decline
>assign no culpability to the autistic tech billionaires who unleashed this bullshit upon humanity

This never gets old. What is it about humanity that makes them so ready to shit on younger generations when said younger generations are the exclusive product of the world we have created for them?

>>108051764
Zoomers are already out of collage and the youngest are finishing highschool. Gen Alpha are fucked

>>108053120
I'm not gonna read the article and just guess that their definition of "learning performance" and "teaching performance" depends on vague models from some meme research based on meaningless metrics which the "educational" AI can easily maximize because both the students and teachers are extracting the same tokens from AI so they naturally match up.
Now put those students outside of an AI regulated environment, or put the teachers in a poor/elite school that uses a different approach to education, and see how both of the groups perform.

>>108058526
It's still a thing in Europe, but anybody who doesn't speedrun their education is seen as a failure. So higher education as a result has turned into a streamlined daycare for midwits.

>cancel tests because shiteaters who don't learn or study fail them when they can't cheat with chatbots
The education system already generates creatures stupid enough to believe having tests is the issue here. Why would you advocate for making people even dumber?

>>108052046
>Plus when getting degrees and applying for a job, nepo babies get priority anyway. So how real is the correlation between academic achievement and prosperity, really?
I have a corporate career that's only possible if you have a degree and some evidence of being competent (portfolio based on the capstone project unit where you resolve a real company issue as a part of the course, or from the two 6 month industry placements that contributed towards my course's units and got me in with some large companies, or from any job you've worked where you took initiative and can demonstrate the benefit (I worked for a hotel in admin before university and automated their ancient booking system which I could clearly quantify into sales gain).
The 3 year course I did came with a tax free scholarship that paid out fortnightly like a salary. The degree is necessary to get a corporate role at all in the company I'm in, the portfolio is necessary for getting into the field/career pathway I'm in. I make quite literally twice what my local friends or my closest age relatives make, where they both need to work full time to support their kids, while my wife can be a homemaker and we can afford to choose whether or not our kids go to daycare for instance. My oldest has always been advanced in speech and training as a result of actually seeing her engaged parents regularly and I work from home most of the time.
I don't have any nepo connections.
It requires drive and at least decent intelligence. Nothing crazy.

>>108056808
what is the relevance of that here?

>>108051734
>> Offloading cognitive tasks to general-purpose chatbots creates risks of metacognitive laziness and disengagement that may deter skill acquisition in the long run
Sounds like you shouldn't offload it then, if you want to learn. Or perhaps you could acknowledge that zoomers/alphas don't want to learn because they don't see a point in getting ready for what looks like a shit adult life. Nice reddit quote btw.
>>108051776
Academia is a joke and people are tired of pretending.

>>108052080
It's always funny reading predictions that assume everyone is stupid but the person making the prediction. Surely, the presumed wealthy elites that want to (presumably) get rid of most people have never ever thought about this and never managed to arrive at a conclusion so simple it can be expressed in a single sentence.

>>108052851
You should develop every possible skill with bare hands. Then, when your idealized postapocalyptic minecraft world fully materializes (in just 2 units of time), you'll be able to dab on all the idiots who doubted your brilliance.

>>108052046
Oy vey goy, cool it with the anti semitic remarks. It’s different when we do it!