>i'm a fat fucking chud console 6 7

>>108052707
but it took a more powerful computer to make that software
professional creators will always need more compute power than the end consumer

>>108052707
>retro console from before anyone here was born
ok grandpa its midnight in india time to stop posting

>>108052716
>but it took a more powerful computer to make that software
not how game dev works

>>108052707
the later models were lower power, but the early models were hot and loud
fans in consoles was the point of no return, pc was better for that type of thing, that was the era the console died

>>108052737
I'd argue ken kutaragi during the PS3 permanently fucked consoles, console design, their generational bounds and their economics.
If it wasn't for the 599$ cell powered supercomputer we wouldn't be having X86 machines that are incredibly inefficient, keep climbing up in price and forcing devs and customers to be laggards

>>108052735
uhh yeah? all of the engine/editor and tools are gonna eat up resources while building the game so you would want a bit more head room than whatever specs the built game requires.

>>108052724
Ouch, this one hurts. I was born the same year as the NES and the MasterSystem... looooong before the PS2... :(

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>>108052707
>and not requiring huge fans
That's going to be a thing again it seems.

>>108052735
Dev kits tend to have higher specs than the final console

>>108052707
>at that point software was the most optimized with 0 bloat
pic unrelated
software has been bloated and unoptimized since the fucking 1960s.

>>108053381
retarded zoomer

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>>108052707
actually

>>108053381
there is no way you couldn't afford not to optimize on dinosaur like gen 6th consoles and prior, gen 5th gen in particular was a cruel joke for 3d

>>108053786
The PS1 GPU is 3D only.

>>108053866
ok what does this have to do with the color of the sky?

PS2 is very neat and fun to program in assembly.
I give it an 8/10. Don't know about any games though.

>>108052735
Yes, it's how Game Dev works. Dev consoles have more RAM for the debugging overhead.

>>108053866
The ps1 gpu is 2d. So is the PS2,3,4,5, and every other console except the Dreamcast. The Dreamcast is the only console with an actual 3d gpu ever released.

>>108052735
Indieslop is not real game development.

>>108052707
Renderware was bloated as shit. It's why GTA III ran at ajnabysmal framerate on PS2 yet Crazy Taxi with a lot more streaming and crazier lighting ran at 60fps on a bloody Dreamcast.

>>108052707
nah things were more optimized and peak with the 6502 derivative and 68k era

>>108052707
PS2 Slim is the best console ever designed
Can't believe how small and light it is

>>108052724
>Thinking PS2 is retro
Get lost zoomie
Last retro console is N64, or maybe at a stretch Dreamcast

PS2 will always be the first modern console
PS2 will never ever be retro

>>108052969
Fuck you for humoring him

>:(
Go back to facebook

>>108054914
>Comparing Crazy Taxi to GTA3
Please be trolling

>>108054699
>The Dreamcast is the only console with an actual 3d gpu ever released.
PSVita
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiled_rendering#Commercial_products_–_Desktop_and_console

>>108055526
By that wouldn't the PS5 also count?

>>108055219
>the iPhone 4 is the first modern iPhone
>the iPhone 4 will never ever be retro
do you know how stupid you sound?

>>108052707
>>108053529
Xbox was better than those consoles.

>>108056278
360 was peak but xbox was still just growing. most had ps2. some wierdos or broke mofos had gamecube

>>108056278
true but it was too vulgar in its design, the Dreamcast was more dreamy ;)
I did like playing music in game and hdd though, at the time it was my favorite between ps2 xbox and gamecube, given the revised gamepad of course.

>>108056453
that was still a time were you bought consoles for exclusives, the Gamecube was cute and had some nice ones, like Resident Evil 4, which looked like ass on ps2 port that came out later.

>>108052707
Apparently PS2 emulation isn't too hard these days. What's a good little used business PC, like those Dell Optiplex machines, I can buy to emulate PS2 games?

>>108055338
Why is it an unfair comparison? Both games have you driving around NYC full of traffic.

>>108056505
>that was still a time were you bought consoles for exclusives
You still do

>>108052707
>muh blistering fast 20 fps gameplay

>>108056601
Trying to do too much with your available resources will do that.
Wasn't a problem with the PS2 itself.

>>108056601
the overwhelming majority of PS2 games ran at stable 60fps actually.
It was the PS3 that had 30fps with dips down to 20 and the PS4 normalized this with virtually every singleplayer game on it being locked to 30