>>108053491
>newfag crustacean
Give it 3 months and you'd wish it was the only lang

>>108053633
Newfags typically go on a months long spree of evangelizing. Just like CrossFit fags used to do, fat "people" who go on diets, recent loonix converts etc.

>>108053491
Why do I do it to myself?
Why do I keep coming back here?
Retarded take after retarded take on every single topic. Even the brownest subhumans from /pol/ are not as dumb as average /g/tard.
It's really the worst board on 4chan.

>>108054795
/pol/browns are worse. At least /g/schizos are funny and mostly White (Russian)

>>108054795
Where else are you going to be told
>Reject Rust
>RETVRN TO Fortran

To be fair theres something called a static analyzer that doesnt require rewriting everything(busy work jobs program)

>>108053491
>Why C++ programmers keep growing fast despite competition, safety, and AI
https://herbsutter.com/2025/12/30/software-taketh-away-faster-than-hardware-giveth-why-c-programmers-keep-growing-fast-despite-competition-safety-and-ai/

>>108054825
/g/ is 80% jeet like you

People program in Rust for the following reasons:
-to make a political statement
-to show off how clever they are
-to push functional programming down into the systems level because they're that autistic
-to make normies and older programmers angry
-they hate old things (new == good)
-they're unhireable so might as well code in a language nobody is hiring for anyway
"memory safety" is just an excuse. there's easier ways to achieve that than learning a whole new language (which is big and complex) and rewriting existing projects in a different language.

There's only two languages that matter anymore:
Nixos
Rust

>>108054795
It's funny when /v/ is a better board desu.

>>108053633
fpbp. It's literally the only language that isn't completely shit. It's unreal honestly.

>>108054849
Spoken like someone who has never used a static analyzer or done any nontrivial fixing and debugging.

>>108055245
Well no but i do know theyre supposed to be to make code safer

>>108055248
They literally don't work. They never will. Rust enforces it's rules at compile time without cope rules. You're wasting time thinking some multi million dollar C++ static analyzer works. I've literally seen people completely ignore both valid and totally stupid static analyzer outputs. It's just not worth it.

I’m gonna keep shipping code in Go while the trannies argue about C++ vs Rust and the browns keep writing shit in garbage interpreted language and Java.

>>108055305
i thought go was slow so i never looked at it

>>108053491
Stupid thread, should be: popular, factual but for some reason intentionally marginalized opinion.

>>108055098
>there's easier ways to achieve that than learning a whole new language (which is big and complex)
Are programming languages that hard to learn if you already know a few? They mostly cover the same few concepts in different window dressing rather than invent anything new that you need to start from scratch

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>>108054795
RUSTroon can't handle simple facts and seethes while combing the hairs of his asshole inwards

Thanks but I'm sticking with C99.

>>108055933
C23 brings a lot of really amazing improvements to the language

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>>108055098
I program in rust because when it's that time, between
>write a meson project
>pull all dependencies which have different names depending on the distro
or
>cargo new project
>cargo add tokio …
latter is easier

>>108053491
Rust is a great language until you want to step outside of what the language considers safe then it becomes the worst pile of shit ever made. Building a (performant) garbage collector in it is a special kind of cock and ball torture. Great type system though and that's why most people probably like it, they would probably enjoy ml langs much more if they gave them a try.

>two more weeks

>>108053491
filtered

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>>108056068

i only vibecode in ada interfacing with C and C++.So far it works really well.I'm not a programmer so i don't know technical details about all of that but seems an alternative if you the project on the long-term is to rewrite everything.Didn't see performance difference that different but it's vibecoded so i guess you could improve on that since the language is mainly aimed at people doing low level and embedded systems.They have a whole book for c,c++ and java programmers so it shows they want to get part of the big diaspora considering apparently a lot of veteran are tired of C++.
idk what's up with all the dod too.Just playing with it with gemini. Basically you can use any C programm and "copy-paste" it and wrap it an ada program around it.For C++ i imagine for all things ,it can be pretty useful.You can shittalk me for being a retarded nocoder.my post is half implicit questions.

>>108055933
Why would I downgrade from
99 to 23? Let me know when C100 comes out.

>>108056210
Yeah basically this, it's very good for huge high-level programs but when you try to do anything slightly low level the autistic compilers starts screeching
>Yes to convert this array of bytes from my file into an struct
Turns out you need to add unsafe everywhere or import 30 crates that actually compile to nothing just to calm the compiler because those 30 bytes could be a pointer to a malloc'd structure in another thread or whatever, nigga it's a fucking file, let me cast it and keep on with my life. If we actually used rust for our embedded OS at work it would likely duplicate in size, add hundreds of dependencies and offer no additional safety as we don't use dynamic memory

>>108056210
>Building a (performant) garbage collector
Genuinely curious what are you working on that requires implementing a GC?

>>108056411
>Turns out you need to add unsafe everywhere or import 30 crates that actually compile to nothing just to calm the compiler because those 30 bytes could be a pointer to a malloc'd structure in another thread or whatever, nigga it's a fucking file, let me cast it and keep on with my life. If we actually used rust for our embedded OS at work it would likely duplicate in size, add hundreds of dependencies and offer no additional safety as we don't use dynamic memory
the amount of filtering exposed in this comment is astronomical kek

>>108053884
Sorry buddy. Rust is legit. Most new fags hate Rust because it calls them out on their shit.

They will eventually concede and start loving. Learning rust has genuine made me a better programmer in other langs

>>108055098
>there's easier ways
Other than python there genuinely isn't. JS is a schizo lang. C#/Java are corporate bloat. C/C++ is cancer.

>>108056953
>the laziest, most ad hominem kind of retort, substantiating nothing, relying purely on emotive language in an attempt to shame the opponent into silence
it can't possibly be a leftist troon, can it?
I'm absolutely convinced that the introduction of estrogen into the male brain disrupts the ability to think critically

>>108053633
In one year, you'll realize the true path is Rust + Zig together.

>>108053491

such level of retardation and stupidity is way too gross even for 4chin

Traits alone justify using this language, you fucking piece of pretentious ignorant turd

>>108057362
>/pol/tard right-left cope larp
jeets are not sending their best
"it's a fucking file, let me cast it" hehe

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>>108057616
>calling people jeets
>in the context of defending rust
i wouldnt do that if i were you

>>108057628
>world view centered around jeetsoft
>both irrelevant AND fake news sourced from a linkedin post that got edited later
thank you for proving your jeetness
>i totally work on ze embedded stuff
hehe

>>108055913
But your images depict the rust crab as a chud, which is the opposite of a troon. How retarded do you have to be to know nothing about programming languages AND know nothing about 4chan lore

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>>108056068
>TIOBE

>>108058642
LOL
lmao EVEN
!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

>>108058227
I don't know who the retard defending my post is but he is not me and I don't want to be associated with his shitty arguments, regarding your responses I might be filtered by rust, there is probably a better way to do the casting I used as an example, it isn't even a real thing I encountered. I haven't have the time to explore rust in such depth to know "the right way tm" to do it, but that is kind of my argument, it is really hard to do low level stuff, and the million of crates attempting to solve the issue is proof of that. And yes I do really work in embedded and I'm not indian.

>>108058281
Nobody gives a shit about 4chink lore except for pedophiles and 40 years old losers who still live at mom's house

>>108056210
Rust is a great language because it skill checks you and forces you to prove what you "claim to be safe" actually is. You sound like a massive retard and *should* be filtered from programming as a whole because you can't write correct unsafe or safe rust code.

>>108053491
it's over
billions must crab

Okay, serious question, if rust is so much better then why is literally every single application of rust worse than its C counterpart? The rust core utils they implemented in Ubuntu are dogshit, they offer no upsides compared to the gnu utils they replaced. They’re slower, more unstable, and break compatibility with legacy programs. I’m starting to think the only reason rust is getting pushed so hard is because it uses the MIT license. I have yet to see a single instance of rust that isn’t poorly written slop or just straight up vibe coded garbage.

>>108053491
this but reverse

>>108059959
rg is superior to grep
fd is superior to find
fish is superior to bash
uutils works out of the box on Windows without MinGW and Cygwin AIDS.
tokio is literally superior to anything C has as evidence by the fact every C project to to write their own event loop / executor.

Why are you posting fake news garbage?

>>108059993
>fake news

It’s called real world usage, 25.10 was a disaster release specifically because the rust utils fucked up so many things, they were also something like 20 times slower than the gnu versions. You can sit here and argue about potential but until I see a rust coded platform that’s actually superior I’m just gonna have to doubt the whole thing. I know cosmic desktop is written in rust, which may explain why it’s so fucking terrible.

>>108059993
people build pure C on windows over ssh. if ur using mingw or something and some convoluted build config ur a regarded tinkertrans

>>108055939
which is exactly why Cniles will never adopt it.

>>108060036
>C on Windows
You're the tinker tranny, not people just shipping a fake Linux runtime on Windows and calling it a day

>>108060052
youre the one who brought windows up you fucking retarded buttranged sperg

>le safe language
>Zero adoption in the safety critical industry due to certificability concerns

>>108059959
Good look at who sits on the Rust Foundation board then it should all make sense (along with the constant shilling here).

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>>108053633
>>108055234
>>108057387
Non coders opinions discarded.

Brown university made the Rust book better
https://rust-book.cs.brown.edu

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Can't make this shit up.

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>>108053491
Cope cnile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fGB-hjc2Gc

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>>108057628
Is so over for rust.

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Why do they all have big noses?

>>10805993
It sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>108060150
Like I needed more reason to hate that abomination.
Rust needs to be banned worldwide.

>>108060078
https://ferrocene.dev/

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>>108060245
SAAR, I am sending my job application.
SAAR, lets built a rusted future!

>>108060266
not an argument

>>108060266
>get mogged so hard you have resort to /g/eet cope
absolutely pathetic.

The problem with Rust isn't actually a problem with the language but with what people try to use the language for. Once you cut through the hype and really understand what Rust is about, its value becomes apparent. The biggest mistake people make is trying to use it for low-level programming. Rust actually gets better the further you move from the metal and towards abstractions and managing abstractions.

>>108060125
You just don't know what I know.

>write a lot of rust code
>it works and it's Safe (tm)
>huh... requirements changed
>need to change stuff a bit
>SORRY I CAN'T LET YOU DO THAT DAVE

>>108053491
By then 41% of the Rust userbase will have moved on, so yes.