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>>108054507

teto thread!

>>108054507
What are your thoughts on this company?

https://foliophotonics.com/product

They claim they're going to be making 1TB discs that cost $3

>>108054534

Freezer is a meme.

>>108054614

Looks shady. Good companies such HGST, Samsung are gone. WD and Toshiba are no longer reliable as they used to be. Unless someone revives japanese economy nobody else will start making high quality and long lasting hardware.

>>108054695
>japanese
>long lasting
Ever heard of sony timer?

>>108054507
I have a couple of 500GB Samsung T7's and a 1TB PNYCS900. I power them regularly. They are all currently connected to my raspberry pi for cold storage. I don't keep enough data to worry about permanent storage.

>>108054507
good thing my computer doesn't stay off for longer than a day

>>108054507
The most reliable long term storage format known is chiselling things into stone. Known to last for tens of thousands of years, probably more.

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>>108054507

still best storage

>>108054507
yeah well im on my computer 16 hours a day so i dont have to worry about that

>>108054507
You're not wrong, but SSDs do have a big advantage and that is speed. So both HDDS and SSDs have pros and cons depending on what you'll use them for.

>>108054507
>longer than 3 years
Ok, uh that's never happening for (Me).

>MUH WRITE CYCLE LIMITS
>MUH UNPOWERED DATA LOSS
literally all meme issues. Even mechanical storage is consumable, the difference is it isn't nearly as predictable.
I have QLC 4TiB SSDs and none of them are even close to less than 90% writes remaining.

>>108055154
>512 bytes sectors without advanced format) is still the most reliable and long lasting storage device

actually clueless , meanwhile m-discs lasts 500 years

http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/indexmag.html?http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artsep16/mol-mdisc-review.html

>>108054507
I still lost 4tb and 20 years of celebrity nudes when my 2 year old platter HDD died

>>108054507
who's the girl from picrel?

>>108055466 (checked)
My wife Teto!

>>108055396
if you got one, you got none. anything of value should have been on multiple redundant drives

>>108055570
Backup to what, another unreliable platter hdd? I thought about cloud storage but I don't want to be rentcuck

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>>108055610
Yes. Anywhere, really. You should have triaged all your data already. Anything that you can't replace, you have as many copies of as you can afford. Family photos and video. Things with sentimental meaning. Huge collections of images or videos. Put some into the corpo clouds on a free plan and you can be reasonably sure it'll stay there for years, but don't rely on them. Then you have anything you can replace with difficulty doesn't have to be backed up as thoroughly. This would be rare movies, niche games, whatever. Anything you can replace easily you don't have to waste space backing up at all. Games that are on Steam, anything with active torrents, you know what's popular and what isn't.

>>108054507
>will lose data if unpowered for longer than 3 years
My rigs are running 24/7 and only shut down when my city loses power (like once every 4-5 years) and that's it. All my drives are in said rigs and always powered.

fake

>>108055189
in muh experience that includes working at a local pc repair place HDDs tend to show signs when they're failing, often allowing you to backup the data to a new drive with minimal loss, while SSDs just randomly die whenever and you're sol if you have no backups.

>>108057294
Write a chrontab.

Nah I don't store anything on my SSD's I just have them collecting dust as paperweights.

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>>108054534
Is this what is meant by cold storage?

>>108054507
If you haven't looked at it in 3 years, you don't fucking need it
>MarieKondo#1

>>108054507
>You don't store data on SSD do you?
Yes, I do.
>Even a decent MLC SSD such as 860 EVO (out of production) will lose data if unpowered for longer than 3 years
just power it on once in a while then...
>and can handle only 2500 write/erase cycles per sector.
that's over 10 years for above normal usage, you're fine. hdd also have a lifespan in TBW btw.
>HDD (especially PMR/CMR with native 512 bytes sectors without advanced format) is still the most reliable and long lasting storage device (you can put it in a box for 10 years and it will turn on and read all the data) SSD a glorified flash drive with extra functions.
wrong, tapes exists and lto-10 was just released up to 30TB uncompressed and 75TB compresed and for even longer storage you should convert data to another physical medium like piql (ask google)
>You've been psyopped into thinking that SSDs are somehow better than magnetic storage.
they are, just not for cold long-term storage.
>uses less energy
>faster
>more efficient
>makes no sound
>smaller
>more robust in harsh environment
>more rugged (vibrations, dust, heat, cold, humidity, etc)
>easier to recover data (easy to remove nand, no concern for dust and no need for special equipment for helium-based hdd)
>nvme protocol has less overhead than scsi
>nvme-over-fabric
>similar or longer lifespan than spinning trash
>over 130TB in a 3.5" form-factor
>can be used as an external drive/usb stick without a power plug (3.5" hdd require this)

why do you have to pick one or the other? are you stupid? use both technologies for different use cases like a normal person.

Teto's tetas

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>>108058008
Only thing you have to worry about is condensation but vacuum sealing exists.

>>108054507
>if unpowered for longer than 3 years
use case for hoarding data you never use?

>>108054507
>unpowered for longer than 3 years
Usecase for storing data you never use?

>>108054507
i don't store any data i would miss.

>>108055199
>m-discs lasts 500 years
unproven marketing gimmick

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>>108059621
Pre-emptively avoiding the inevitable dystopian internet cutoff and attempt to delete and rewrite history, what else?

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>>108059790
tbf, Tablet Inc. promised 2000 years or your shekel returned. And that's held up pretty well so far.

>>108060194
>data erased by erosion

>>108054507
If you actually care about data integrity you should use zfs, or a similar filesystem than can do active error correction, in a system with ecc memory. I run 2 ZFS pools on my server, one replicates to the other 4x a day, and both pools do a scheduled zfs scrub weekly.

Why would I leave a drive unpowered for years on end?

Why has Teto been getting hate lately?

>>108054507
ssd's are much more reliable than hdd if powered on.

Who the fuck cares? Or who the fuck uses SSD for data other than the OS, programs or gaymes?
I've got 74TB of storage (including backup), even with low SSD prices that would be insane.

>>108060527
>scheduled zfs scrub weekly
How often do your scrubs catch any errors? The only time I've caught errors is when one of my RAM sticks couldn't handle the slightest overclock.

>>108054507
You're supposed to have ssd inside your pc and then a nas server back up with all hdd

>>108055618
i am a pedophile but....

>>108054507
>will lose data if unpowered for longer than 3 years
mdr

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>>108063981
what does she mean by this?

>>108055570
>if you got one, you got none
does that line work on police when they find your pizza stash?

>>108060599
prison

>>108063896
Sorry to say anon but you have an adult woman fetish, get help immediately

>>108064580
no no nononono it cant be