>>108055960
They're for retarded ricers. Everything you can do with a tiling wm, you can do in a standard de.

>>108055969
So then are standard de for retarded ricers also? You are a moran.

Tiling is for fun and productivity, and if you are having a hard time imagining how that is possible, then you don't really need the benefit.

>>108055960
They're for anybody who has numerous windows.
It is incredibly useful to occasionally have windows side-by-side or top-to-bottom so you can see both windows at the same time.

It's also nice to be able to quickly switch workspaces and to do all window navigation with a keyboard.

>>108055969
i was wondering. i wanted to try some new shit and found niri but god damn i don't get the appeal of tiling. sure, in some cases when you got many terminals open may be useful, but as you say you can do the same with floating windows too

i was looking at hyprland since it allows floating windows but couldn't (i didn;t bother yet) to try it because apparently the voidlinux mantainers have a hard-on against it.

probably only makes sense on a laptop or a pc with a single monitor. I dont see the point past that

>>108055960
For laptop they're great. I won't use anything but dwm on my laptops now. They're the best for keyboard driven interfaces. They work just as good in multi-monitor set-ups.

I only use floating WMs on systems where I have a track ball and have to use the trackball within a lot of applications. Like editing video/audio. I find them pretty annoying even with a good pointing device now.

I spend a lot of time in emacs as well which is similar to tiling WMs as far as how you interact with it. I used to use it for my WM but I eventually went to have dwm and giving dwm the super key. Works much better. Typically. I have one application full screen on each monitor. But when I do need to split windows on one monitor I like having the ability to do that.

With a floating WM you spend a lot of time managing windows manually. It's really annoying once you've gotten used to the tiling work flow.

>>108055969
A "standard de" has a WM you dumb fuck. I hate how this board has turned into these idiots that should have stayed in /v/. They're so annoying and they never contribute anything of value.

>>108055960
>I just don't see when I would use this
Then don't. I like tiling window managers because when I was using a regular DE, I always found myself manually tiling every window I opened so I could have multiple windows open at the same time. It's just more convenient to me to have this automated.

>>108055969
>Everything you can do with a tiling wm, you can do in a standard de
and everything you can do with a computer you can do with any other turning machine

once in a blue moon do i ever need more than one window in view. most of the time i just have whatever window full-screened. for code im in vscode so ill just split view there

I don't like auto tiling. But self guided tiling is cool

>>108055960
I make all the windows float, like what you normally get in DE
I use wm because full-blown DE is too bloated

I have like 20 windows open on windows now that i think about it. Maybe i should get the one for windows.

>>108056450
Well, depending on your system as it is now, Windows has come with tiling for about 30 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I8HyVMKEeo

I don't get the point of tiling wm, I can do that with fvwm, I can make the windows constrained to lock together into tiles or make keys to arrange windows to tile, so why not just have something that's more flexible?

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>>108055960
how about you retarded trannies stop intellectually gooning all day about window managers, desktops environments, terminal emulators, init systems, etc. and do something actually interesting with your computer

>>108055960
tiling window managers are inferior to stacking window managers
regular floating windows can be resized freely and placed exactly where you want them to be, including having them aligned just like a tiling window manager would
a tiling window manager forces you to have all programs laid out in tiles. for many programs it won't be an optimal size, either causing excessive blank space or just not fitting all content in its tile

>>108055991
>They're for anybody who has numerous windows.
stacked windows are way better when there's many of them
>It is incredibly useful to occasionally have windows side-by-side or top-to-bottom so you can see both windows at the same time.
you can do that easily with a stacking WM, in addition to have some windows partially overlaid if that's more convenient

>It's also nice to be able to quickly switch workspaces and to do all window navigation with a keyboard.
you can do all that with a stacking WM

>>108056952
What would be interesting? The internet sucks nowadays.

>>108055960
It's for anyone who mainly uses programs that don't require a mouse. And yes, programmers are a good example of that. I switch back and forth between a shell, a web browser with vimium, and an IDE with vim/spacemacs keybindings, none of which require a mouse. Using a tiling wm means I can cut out the mouse altogether, instead of having to switch back and forth between mouse and keyboard.

Majority of the time I just use the tab layout in i3. I just dislike aligning windows with mouse.

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>>108056000
Niri is slopware for retards. Scrolling is just an unlabeled tab. Total fucking gimmickware. Fuck that shit. Just use i3.
Look at all the docs I have open. It's easy as fuck to navigate that shit. $mod+hjkl for moving between windows and shift+j/k for changing browser tabs.

>>108056029
>A "standard de" has a WM
Tell me retard-kun, are these tiling wms? Yes or no.

>>108055969
>Everything you can do with a tiling wm, you can do in a standard de.
If you're willing to settle for dogshit janky plugins that stop being developed every other couple months, sure. If you want a proper tiling window manager, a proper tiling window manager is still the best choice.

>>108055960
if all you do is run one or two apps fullscreen, then no, tiling is indeed useless.

once you have several smaller windows, multiple workspaces or monitors, tiling saves you time. you don't have to drag or resize windows constantly or make space for new windows.

and you have the option to never have to touch a mouse/trackpad/trackball if you'd want. so for optimizing autists that can be a plus.

>>108057537
>regular floating windows can be resized freely and placed exactly where you want them to be
And you can still do that on a tiling wm just fine.
>including having them aligned just like a tiling window manager would
Which would take at least 2 or 3 keyboard shortcuts, or the mouse.
>tiling window manager forces you
It doesn't force anything.
>for many programs it won't be an optimal size
For a handful of programs, sure. For those you can just float them.
Tiling wm can do anything a stacking wm can and vice versa. It's a matter of which behaviour you want to be the default and which is the alternative option you need to switch to. I don't get the retard hate against tiling. Once Krash-DE or some other mainstream DE make it their default everyone will love it and act like they always did and hate stacking wm.

>>108057537
you can enable floating windows in most tiling wms

>>108055960
they are basically designed to work effectively for keyboard controlling everything.
with very little config you can just have everything managing with like one hotkey and you never have to use your mouse
i wasn't convinced but got used to one and I would not go back now, doing anything with the mouse is just really slow and frustrating in comparison. i also do like the sort of "inability" to hide stuff in that you have to be more explicit, you can have a page of garbage or whatever and you can just move all of that to one view and hide it and you'll see it's open, it just forces you to organize stuff a little more and the reward is basically being able to do it instantly because you have keybinds for everything.

>>108055969
this post made the ricers mad

On gnome if you hold a window against the left of the screen it uses half the screen then so it with another window for the other half then swap desktop with win and mouse wheel. Problemo solvededo.

>>108055960
They theoretically better for productivity but I use them because they're neat :^)

>>108055960
tiling window managers are a meme.
dwm and cwm both take the right approach, in that they're normal dynamic window managers with tiling features.

>>108055960
they have 0 usecase imagine not being able to minimize windows

>>108062893
you could bind that if you really wanted and even have a psuedo task bar at the top to make yourself at home, but most people find it a lot easier just to switch to another workspace. its a lot easier to just press key+1 or 2 or 3 etc than move your hand from your keyboard to your mouse and click minimize.

>>108055960
I use a window manager because DEs on Linux are bloated slop now.
At first the workflow seemed cumbersome but you get used to it.
Embrace not reaching for your mouse.

>>108055960
I'm not a programmer I'm a student in a completely unrelated field but i do like twms. They make jumping between programs and workspaces a breeze. I have found that being able to control everything with the keyboard is very nice. Workspaces 1/2 have browser and neovim and some course material other spaces can have communication apps Spotify what not

>>108055960
>>108055969
If you need to ask, or cant think of any reason why they might benefit you, its just not for you. Simple really.

Ricers like them because tiling WM are usually more aesthetically pleasing, but I've seen plenty of aesthetic floating WMs in the desktop threads

I guess it's a matter of habit.