Fine the fuck outta Mexicans and Chinese people for abusing fireworks.

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Wide adoption of zero-emission electric vehicles that don't dump gobs of smog into the air.

>>108056598
Better yet, mass electric public transport

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>What will be the next technological innovation to improve the night sky
I don't know but its good to see cuckropeans seething over their cities not looking like medieval dungeons and cellars anymore

>>108056568
A nuke center mass

>>108056568
Light pollution gets worse every year.

More lights = less crime

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make sure all lights are shielded
street lights should be on a timer where appropriate (ie pretty much anywhere outside of NYC and other huge cities that are active 24/7
home/business lights and signage should also be on a timer

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>>108056568
No, they didn't.

>>108056818
I always wondered why they paint the shields' innards black, wouldn't that just absorb half of the emission? why not a shinier paint?

>>108056616
How many hours can an electric bus run before it needs to recharge, and how long does it take to recharge? Electric buses means basically 1 bus driving while 1 recharges, you gotta double your whole fleet. Retarded idea if I ever saw one

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>>108056908
There are chargers that can recharge the thing in 10-15 minutes

>>108056937
how does electric battery fare in the cold? There was a city in northern sweden that switched to electric buses but then winter came, they got snowed in and nothing worked.

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>>108056908
>electric bus
>recharge
You just put electric lines on the main routes and it charges while driving

who the fuck gives a shit about light pollution? if you care about astrophotography, you'll either live in the sticks, or make the 40 minute drive out to bumblegag, ohio in order to take a few pictures of stars

>>108056965

They seem to be just fine. I live in Helsinki in Finland and we have a very big amount of Volvo, BYD and Yutong electric buses. Seems like only bugs are making commercially viable electric buses. Even with it being -10 to -20c here they seem to run fine, my understanding is they equip them with features that enable heating up that the base models don't have. I don't see any more breakdowns than what happened when most of the buses ran on diesel or natural gas even though those buses were from real manufacturers not chinese shit.

>>108057044 apparently you do

>>108056988
oh man. We're talking about improving the night sky here and you wanna run those awful looking cables all through the streets to make sure you never get a clear sight of the open sky again? Seriously?

>>108056568
I was wondering why I can see more stars at night lightly
I thought I suddenly got better eyesight or something
Neato
>I have a telescope so it is nice when the sky is clear and I can see objects clearer

>>108057212
enjoy your scope seeing starlinks i guess

I hate LEDs. I can't go out for a walk at night without getting blinded by these extreme bright blue light cancer light spectrum LEDs. Are people blind? Why they make them so bright?

>>108057324
Excessive sensitivity to light is a symptom of autism.

>>108056598
They still do, just from a central location. No one tell him about the highly increased tire particles and road wear thanks to pigfat bev appliances.

>>108057367
Too late fucker, read the thread next time. >>108056616

>>108057390
You might be retarded anon. My post and the one you linked are not related.

>>108057394
They are, you just need to think a bit.

>>108057401
No they're not. Mine talks about about pollution caused by bev appliances, your post talks about bus faggots. Even if it's an electric bus it doesn't disprove my point.

>>108056576
Kristi Noem is working on that

>>108057044
some people like being able to see the stars at night

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>>108056568
yeah but how can I get nostalgic about my 90s childhood upbringing without amber colored street lights?
so cozy amirite bros??

>>108057044
some people aren't soulless bugmen

people should get back home when nights calling.
we don't talk enough about how normies are destroying the world without knowing it and won't give it up because they don't care except their comfort.
this is such a shame we could have skies where we could admire the milky way and so many stars.I've been able to enjoy looking at them in the countryside of turkey at 500/600 and it was wonderful.One night at around 2200 (before monte amaro) and same it looked so close ,so majestuous.People don't realise what they are missing because the jewish world is all they know.Khomeini is right ,the west is a slave factory.

>>108058871
tell that to robbers who want nothing more than less light on they ass as they break into your place possibly to kill you

>>108056908
So instead of a fleet of 20 buses carrying 50+ people each, rotating out as they need recharging, you're proposing 1000+ individual cars clogging up the roads that have but one car go flat and ruin the entire traffic flow?

>>108056598
what do you think carbon footprint of manufacturing electric car is (battery, all the electronics etc)? where do you think electricity comes from?

>>108056568
We'll fill the sky up with satellites next

>>108056616
dare i even suggest it? walkable infrastructure....

>>108059033
why not both?

>>108058965
>where do you think electricity comes from?
nuclear, hydro, solar, wind

>>108058790
I miss them. At least they didn't blaze bright white which is horrible, especially when you're trying to sleep near one.

>>108059054
if you're talking about less than 20% part then sure. rest not so much.

x870 vs b850
what am i missing out on the b850?

>>108056568
>Faint stars clearly more visible on the left

>>108060312
>retard doesn't realize a huge bright light source is in the right picture

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>>108060376
HURR I'M RETARDED DURR

>>108057324
>I can't go out for a walk at night
Normal people sleep at night.

>>108060400
>unshielded vs shielded
lol
nobody shield their ultrabright LED bullshit
Sodium is superior, even unshielded. But shielded sodium would be peak.

>>108060421
>Normal people sleep at night.
Then why do they need blindingly bright lights everywhere on all night long?

>>108056568
Troll thread.
LED light is harmful
https://darksky.org/app/uploads/2024/06/ALAN-State-of-the-Science-2024-EN-1.pdf

Get this shit off the streets.

>>108056568
Kill all zoomgroids, all the rgb led shit goes out.

>>108056881
>why not a shinier paint?
because you don't want a blinding light hitting a driver

>>108060579
>>108058921

>>108058921
"robbers" they are government inventions to make you live in constant fear.

>>108060376
>>108060400
lmao owned

>>108056568
>LEDs have already cut down light pollution tremendously.
source?

>>108060774
m'eyes

>>108056568
>What will be the next technological innovation to improve the night sky?
Turning them the fuck off when nobody's around

>>108060785
>we need motion sensors and cameras everywhere to protect us from the lights

>>108057044
Subhuman trash

>>108056908
Swappable batteries

>>108056568
>technological innovation to improve the night sky?

Railguns that can deorbit an entire starlink constellation.

>>108057367
>from a central location.
Which are much much MUCH cleaner than the thousands of ICE engines they replace.

>>108057211
You walk out onto the street to look up at the night sky? Are you retarded? This is a non-issue.

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What is the limit of public lighting?

If you live in a city you don't deserve stars

>>108056616
>>108056598
Bugpods for thee not for me

>>108060828

is starlink low power railgun as beam sweeps over panel reciever in nightsky

>>108056908
>you gotta double your whole fleet.
Not an issue because you need way more busses during rush hour than the rest of the day and night anyways.
Just have to make their schedules overlap from 7:00 to 9:00 and from 16:00 to 18:00.

>>108056568
how about REAL pollution.
nuke india and israel now!!!

>>108059813
reading.

>>108056818
>motion sensor
Oh yeah, just have the street lights off so you can't see anything until you're close to them, fucking retard.
>>108060630
>LOOK AT THIS SCHIZO BLOG
Fucking retard.

>>108056870
Some cities have started going to warmer LEDs. I don't know if that's much better but it's a start.

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>>108056965
Electric vehicles actually work much better in extreme cold than ICE vehicles.
At most you need an electric heater when you park them for extended times, but you need that for ICE vehicles too.

street lights need to be as ugly and uncomfortable as possible to scare away homeless people

>>108060976
>#1 problem with vehicles in EXTREME cold weather is the battery draining and failing to start the engine
>in EXTREME COLD aka -20 to -50C environments like finland, they have heaters to keep the engine warm
>EVschizos actually, legitimately think having the entire vehicle be powered by batteries that LOSE CHARGE AND CAPABILITY IN THE COLD is a superior solution

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>>108056818
Most of the light hitting the ground gets reflected up anyways.
Can't shield against that.

>>108056881
You don't need reflectors for LED's because they're already directional, they're like little panels not like bulbs that shine in every direction.

>>108060993
You're full of shit.
Block heaters heat the engine block, not the battery.
And batteries don't lose charge in the cold, only utter retards think that. - where would the charge go? do the magical cold fairies carry it away?

>>108060963
yeah motion sensors are the dumbest shit ever. If I turn a corner and see a blacked out street then i'm not going down it. The lights are there to protect you and let you see ahead lmao. Not just to see what's in your immediate radius around you.

>>108060869
>You walk out onto the street to look up at the night sky?
I do that during the day. Those cables don't magically disappear during the day, do they? I live in a beautiful european capital with great architecture and a gorgeous blue sky, and you want that view to be covered up by ugly cables like here?>>108056988
Tell me that sight wouldn't be much nicer without the ugly cables and ever uglier poles holding them up. If you disagree you're a fucking rat.

japone as green leds? for some residential areas, seen on rambalac vids not sure the exact reason

>>108061078
So you walk out, onto a street with cars just to look up at the sky? City dwellers are some of the lowest IQ ppl you can ever meet.

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>>108061078
I'll bet your "beautiful city" looks like this.

>>108061058
>where would the charge go? do the magical cold fairies carry it away?
How can one person be so stupid? Do you just talk about shit you know nothing about, and assume whatever shit you make up is correct?

>Yes, batteries lose significant, albeit often temporary, charge and operating capacity in the cold. Freezing temperatures increase internal resistance and slow the chemical reactions needed to produce power, causing performance drops of up to 60% in car batteries and 10-15% in Lithium-ion,.
>Key Effects of Cold on Batteries:
>Reduced Capacity: Cold causes the electrolyte inside batteries to thicken, reducing the ability to hold and deliver a full charge.
>Increased Internal Resistance: Cold temperatures make it harder for electrons to flow, leading to lower voltage output and faster, temporary draining.

Nigga, I have a battery-powered vacuum cleaner and in the winter, when the house is slightly colder, that thing lasts about 10% of what it does when the house warms up. But if I leave it for some time next to a heater, guess what happens? The battery lasts longer!

How about you learn to fucking google basic shit before you open your mouth?

>>108060968
It still doesn't provide the full color spectrum unlike sodium lights

>>108061082
Here in The Netherlands we sometimes have green LED's in public parks.
Never on streets with vehicles but if you want to illuminate a footpath between grass/bushes why not make the lights green to match?

>>108061107
>temporary

Retard

>>108061121
>full color spectrum
>sodium
Anon, please read a book.

>>108061105
The problem of electric companies shitting up the landscape is starting a movement. People are getting pissed.

>>108060963
>>108061067
we've had motion sensor lights in a sequence where they light up in front of the person walking/driving for like 50 years. adapting that to street lights would be simple

>The lights are there to protect you and let you see ahead lmao
your headlights are sufficient. there are tons of places, even highways, without street lights

>>108061207
>your headlights
>only usCARofA exists

>>108061170
I just find it funny people complaining about cables for trams and trolleys but when it's for residential power and internet: crickets.

>>108061139
>temporary
Mr bus driver, your bus has a 20-minute charge this winter due to it being really cold. Do not worry, everything is A-OK, because it is only *TEMPORARY*! In 6 months, when the sun comes out again, you will be back to having your regular battery charge. What to do until then with the passengers? I don't know, ask them to take a cab! Just not en EV cab, because you know...

>>108061226
>people don't complain when the wires are the reason their homes have electricity and internet/telephone
What a startling fucking revelation, einstein.

>>108061226
For one those are usually much closer to the homes and as such block a lot less of the sky than the tram ones in the middle of the streets, second people do complain about them still.

>>108061207
The reason we have to have street lamps is because of non-whites, who wouldn't participate in a Borrow A Flashlight program without abuse and total destruction.

But a share a flashlight thing would work great, here.

>>108061242
>those are usually much closer to the homes
Which makes them worse.
Imagine having to look at them from your window all day long.

Trams and trolleys usually only run on the main street.
The vast majority of people live on streets without public transport, even in busy cities.

>>108061226
Yeah, things are heating up.

Nimby is tightly related to having haitians cooking rats in your back yard, or the somalis literally cooking the local pond's hand fed geese.

>>108061269
>But a share a flashlight thing would work great, here.
I meant to say, if we put Liberia to use, and deported many millions.

>>108061275
>it's worse because the wires provide valuable services to homes instead of state-owned public transhit
Go back >>>/n/

>>108058868
>>108060811
>No, I HAVE to see the giant balls of space gas every night! Or else... it's just bad if I don't, okay!
Grow up.

>>108061318
i will not work in or around your town or city, then

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>>108060400
>that entire neighborhood that's been killed in the bottom right

>>108056568
kill yourself rajeesh

>>108061351
the photo's just misaligned.

>>108061349
Who are you kidding, you're a NEET that would spend all night posting on 4chan regardless of how many gas-balls you could see in the sky.

>>108060400
>muh blue light pollution

I have a Chinese friend and I asked him about the Chinese calendar which I understand is a moon based calendar unlike the western sun based calendar.

Anyways, after a while I realized he never saw the moon growing up in Shenzhen because of all the smog.

>>108059033
>Americans
>Walking

All my fat liberal friends cry for this, yet refuse to do any sort of physical activity whatsoever. I miss living in a walkable city

white leds are soulless and just another sign of the great decline

>>108061363
>they're just gas-balls
your wife has a melanated cluster of cells in her womb

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>>108057211
>>108061078
>>108061105
>so-called "techloligy" board poster
>doesn't like Lain
go back

>>108061376
Walking around a city sounds fucking horrendous. Just the smells, litter and third-world imports. I don't blame urbanites for wanting to drive everywhere. Walking around the countryside mogs.

>>108061381
>oh yeah, well... INTERRACIAL SEX!
mutt's law strikes again

why do mexicans love blue leds so much?

>>108061399
>interracial sex!
oh so you can call things by their proper names

>>108061392
walking around in the city was nice before the kikes flooded them with chinks and browns

>>108059033
>MUH WALKABLE CITIES

>>108061224
nobody is walking around at 3am. if you want to have lights on at night, fine. but they should start shutting down in most places by 11pm or midnight.

>>108060400
the hill on the bottom is noticably darker

>>108061411
Never said nor implied otherwise. Stars are just balls of gas, they're nothing special. Ancient people found them so fucking boring that they invented a bunch of bullshit stories about them just to try and keep them interesting. Why are you so enamoured by them, yet refuse to move to a remote location where you can stare at them at your leisure?

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>>108060774
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>>108060785
artificial lights are...le good actually!

>>108061440
>Stars are just balls of gas, they're nothing special
uh.

oh? you have a ball of gas?

>>108061441
no one is falling for your fake zoomed in image

>>108058790
the lights themselves look pretty, but everything they illuminate looks dogshit, weird stuff

>>108061441
Both look like shit. One is a piss filter and one isn't.

>>108061450
you're incorrect nigger

>>108061453
back to /v/

>>108061457
it's okay if you like the taste of shit, but don't try to convince others to do the same

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>>108061457
You lost. You will never have your pissy lighting ever again. Enjoy screaming at the sky while everyone looks at you like a weirdo retard.

the autistic deal poorly with change, and will instead of saying something sensible like "while generally superior, a neutral temperature LED lightpost should include a reflector to diffuse the light point" will just reee incoherently about the color being different.

>>108061422
>but they should start shutting down in most places by 11pm or midnight.
The whole point of lights is to see at night you clueless retard.

>>108061440
Holy autism

I genuinely feel bad for you if you don't feel anything looking at nature

>>108061392
Yet Americans spend thousands and sacrifice what little vacation days they get just to walk around in some European cities.
Curious.

>>108061529
you dont need lights on 24/7 you clueless retard

Bring back carbon arc lighting. It's bright white like LEDs and you'll create a lot of jobs for dudes to go around replacing and adjusting the rods.

>>108061551
No one is saying 24/7 retard. AT NIGHT
WHAT PART OF NIGHT DONT YOU GET?
TURNING THEM OFF AT NIGHT MAKES THEM WORTHLESS.
>b-b-but no one walks around after 11pm
YES THEY DO YOU CLUELESS RETARD. Just because you're some loser that sleeps early doesn't mean everyone else does. Good fucking lord you are so dumb.

>>108061541
>what little vacation days they
your fault for being a retail/min wage cuck. i have over a month of pto.

>>108061541
Nobody visits europistan for the "walkable cities", busrider.

>>108056617
>looking like medieval dungeons and cellars
This is kino imo. I wish our cities looked like European ones.

>>108061652
I live in Amsterdam.
I see six million tourists every single day.

>>108061628
you don't need lights on from sunset to sunrise you clueless retard

>>108061681
And none of them are visiting because the tiny little city can be walked in. They're visiting for the sights, tourist traps, and places to go.

>>108061681
6 million in four years? The math isn't mathing there, chief.

>>108061681
wow you must have an amazing m2f surgeon!

>>108056568
>technological innovation to improve the night sky
mm, recursive ai power consumption, or some sort of EMP device?

>>108061709
They're not driving.
Nobody visits a drive only city to look at it from their car window.

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>>108061541
>Americans
>travelling outside of their country
Good one, anon.

>>108061441
a highly compressed image with no control on camera parameters isn't a source you fucking retard

>>108056598
virtually any car produced last 12 years, with functioning emissions crap, doesn't do that. and trying to reduce emissions even further in "all conditions" is borderline impossible

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>>108056568
Why did left look so much more comfortable than right though?

>>108063510
You grew up with it.

>>108063510
You're a urine enthusiast

>>108056568
I wish we were like Asia where they dgaf about "muh light pollution!" and cities look fun, lit up like Christmas every night. People should accept light pollution as just part of living in the city, just like noise and crowds, and move elsewhere if they don't like it.

>>108056598
Cars are literally the dumbest psyop in human history.

>>108056568
I don't even see a quarter of the stars I used to see as a kid so I know this is a lie and there's probably smog in every city

I'm tired of it bros. I just want to have clean air and no light pollution. Why did God curse use with this fake and gay rat race?

>>108064484
>I'm tired of it bros. I just want to have clean air and no light pollution.
So move to a rural area. Urban living is unnatural and soul-sapping.