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MICROSOFT DECALRES WAR ON WIREGUARD AND VERACRYPT.

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microchode
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>>108557841
Go away, manchild.
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>>108557841
Still better than linux, btw. Unironically. I'll never use that garbage.
This was a mistake and will get fixed soon.
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>>108557841
the fuck do you mean "developer accounts"? "push" updates?
just fucking double click an .exe
it's why windows is better than Linux, you don't need any of that shit.
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>>108558025
You can't run a driver on Windows unless it's signed with a EV certificate that's Microsoft approved.
On Loonix, you can enroll a MOK (Machine Owner Key) and use that to sign your own kernel modules, on Windows, if Microsoft won't allow you to sign drivers, you're SOL.
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Stop using Microslop Windows.
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>>108557841
wtf does this even mean? what does "developer account" mean in this context?

and who the fuck uses wireguard on windows? kek
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>>108557841
You WILL use Microslop Copilot SSTP and Copilot Bitlocker and you WILL be happy.
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>>108557915
>>108558025
>Microsoft shuts down Wireguard and Veracrypt developer accounts
>I love Windows! Linux is so gay.
Literal retard shills.

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>>108558025
>what does "developer account" mean in this context
>the fuck do you mean "developer accounts"? "push" updates?
Most intelligent Windows users on the board.
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>>108558126
>Most intelligent Windows users on the board.
the irony lmao. I have not used windows in decades.
again, who the fuck cares about windows or its users? only a retard would care about this shit.
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>>108557841
Fucking cucks!
Why don't those developers drop support -EOL for windows completely?
All vpn and password managed softwares will be dead in two weeks. This is kill microsoft.
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>>108558066
yes you can.

>>108558126
Microsoft are always niggers.
you use windows in spite of Microsoft now because of it.
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>>108558066
>you can enroll a MOK (Machine Owner Key) and use that to sign your own kernel modules
You don't need to do that shit anymore. You can just enroll your custom SecureBoot keys in mobo (although you need to enroll microslop keys for compatibility reasons as well) and then make a unified kernel image which will host kernel, initramfs and efi stub, so you just sign a single efi executable.
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>>108558143
What, using test signing mode? You consider that an option? Where 40% of software just refuses to run and you get a watermark on your desktop?
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next time just say you don't know what the catalog is and be done with it
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>>108558147
Good to know. Does any distro have support for actually doing that automatically on kernel updates? Can you ditch shim entirely? Do you just add the kernel as an efi executable into nvram or do you still use a bootloader?
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>>108558153
monumental.
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Windows Hypervisor not only rapes performance but also makes you not the admin of your computer anymore
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>>108558180
>>108558153
This is the same as running DSE off from the boot menu. Both require a reboot to apply anyways.
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>>108557841
are you hiding something?
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>>108558180
Is this the option that literally adds a watermark to your desktop saying that unsigned drivers are enabled, or that was the test mode the other anon mentioned?
I remember I had to install some unsigned driver several years ago, and whatever thing I did kept the watermark as long as it was enabled.
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>>108558204
Also, it allows ANY software to install a driver, not just ones you (the device owner) explicitly allow. This is terrible for security.
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>>108557841
Time to extinguish.
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>>108557841
I thought Windows users and its platform developers were into cuckoldy fetish. What's the problem, exactly? It's just another instance of Microsoft humiliating them. They should just enjoy it.
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>>108557841
I don't care, I use macOS
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>>108558244
The more npcs change to linux, the more the system wants to choke and gag linux too. Cattle needs to continue sticking to microslop.
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>>108558215
I literally don't give a shit about "security".
first thing I disable on any device is updates.
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>>108558320
Make sure to disable HyperV and VBS too
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>>108557841
Worrying about security while using Windows is like worrying about HIV in a bugchasing orgy.
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>>108558353
don't doubt it
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>>108558320
don't cry when your shit gets yeeted, then
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>>108558174
>Does any distro have support for actually doing that automatically on kernel updates?
I think every distro can do this: Debian and Arch both have documentation and upgrade hooks. I'm doing this on my Arch system because this allows me to unlock luks partitions using tpm2
>Can you ditch shim entirely
Yes
>Do you just add the kernel as an efi executable into nvram or do you still use a bootloader?
You can load kernel directly from nvram but I'm using systemd-boot for convenience
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>>108558383
I should try that. Thanks, anon.
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>>108558066
I run unsigned drivers all the time on Windows.
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>>108558193
How do I disable it?
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If you use Windows for anything that requires privacy or security you're an idiot and can't be helped.
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>>108558439
Disable HyperV by turning off CPU virtualization. That will get rid of VBS, Windows Hello, and more.
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>>108558455
The US military and intelligence agencies (ie the greatest military power the world will ever see) trusts Windows for operational security and not commie Linux.
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>>108558405
Must be old Windows it's not a thing on new Windows
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>>108558369
27 years using a computer, havent happened yet.
I have my shit backed up on external drives anyway that I unplug.
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>>108558369
also all my software is portable on another disk, and reinstalling windows takes 10 minutes.
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>>108557841
>Microslop
They still exist?
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>>108557915
>Still better than linux, btw. Unironically. I'll never use that garbage.
You sound like a Microslop Co-Parrot
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>>108558358
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>>108558668
Not my problem.
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>>108558729
Exactly.. I've only ever heard about 1 guy using Gnome, named Emmanuel.
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signing is security theater
making it borderline mandatory, premium and tying it to a business account is criminal (in Minecraft)
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>>108558463
In bios you mean? Will do, thanks
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>>108558668
The type of linux user we get on /g/ installed CachyOS yesterday and thinks it's magic pixie dust. They know nothing and cannot be helped.
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>>108558081
Just retarded.
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>>108558143
>yes you can.
if you boot in test mode to enable unsigned drivers it will display a humongous watermark that you cannot turn off (no, really) until the end of times lmao
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accounts? what accounts? you mean microsoft accounts?

are you retarded?
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>>108558507
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>>108559763
Developer accounts.
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>>108559763
Pretending not to know things isn't very amusing.
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>>108558147
>bro just hack your motherboard
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>>108559038
>signing is security theater
It's a great way to stop an entire class of attacks, and they can always revoke signatures if keys are ever stolen.
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>>108559832
>It's a great way to stop an entire class of attacks,
name one such case
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>>108559771
wtf is going on
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>Check to see if my Windows computer requires Microsoft's permission to install or update software
>It Does Not
>go back to anachronistically reading a newspaper by my kitchen window over coffee and croissant
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>>108558079
Nah, I won't. Make me. What are you gonna do, besides nothing, bitch? That's what I thought.
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microsoft india ai nigger extreme saar madness

there is no conscious entity at microsoft anymore

it's just horde of jeets repeatedly going through motions
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>>108558126
>Microsoft shuts down Wireguard and Veracrypt developer accounts
"Shuts down" how? I am not beholden to Microsoft's permission to update and use Wireguard or Veracrypt. What they do with their "developer accounts", whatever those are, does not affect me in any way.

Linux IS gay, and you're impotently seething because there's literally nothing you can do to get me to use your retarded failed commie software.
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>>108558476
wow you mean the US government is okay with using a product from a US company that they can fully control and monitor? shocker
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>>108557841
BREAKING NEWS, MICROSOFT ALSO DECLARED WAR ON WINDSCRIBE.
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>>108560140
> I am not beholden to Microsoft's permission to update and use Wireguard or Veracrypt. What they do with their "developer accounts", whatever those are, does not affect me in any way.
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>>108560152
>black magic "my computer is doing creepy things I can't understand or identify or prove, the government sees all my porn" mentality
These cretins should never be permitted to post on /g/. There needs to be an computer operations test to enable posting on this board.
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>>108560106

tfw not having maid reading relevant newspaper topics
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>>108560156
they need to apply for the Israel Accepted Software certification
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>>108560171
>literally no argument because it can't in any way qualify how this random nonsense affects anyone
Strange you got mad enough to post söyjaks over it though.
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>>108560140
you are now a year or two away from having to install some borderline-outdated nuclear-submarine version of windows to (((sideload)))l un-(((signed))) applications and drivers
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Why are these retards always using spyware? If they're smart enough to build something like WG you'd think the would be smart enough not to use fucking spyware
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>>108560191
Your retarded fantasies are not my reality.
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>>108560196
10 ltsc iot iso and dodging hardware (e.g. laptop models) that don't support is already the norm of tolerating windows and not being forced to use start menu written in some webshit

android will make you drink the 24h verification soon can to install programs not from (((app store))) and why wouldn't microsoft
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>>108560208
>android will make you drink the 24h verification soon can to install programs not from (((app store))) and why wouldn't microsoft

You're going to have to write that in white people english if you want a response.
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>>108559719
You're retarded. There is a night and day difference between a vulnerability existing in software and Microsoft willingly giving your supposedly encrypted data to law enforcement.
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>>108560223
you will have to go through more and more extra-steps to be able to "use"the os

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/03/google-details-new-24-hour-process-to-sideload-unverified-android-apps/

there is no reason for microsoft jeets to not implement this for their consumers because consumers who buy laptops at walmart and amazon are a small % compared to enterprise, and their choices simply don't matter. after all it's easier to support a whitelist of (((verified))) software, like adobe reader, copilot and whatsapp, not some hacker autist third party disk encryption or network sniffers.
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>>108560283
>you will have to go through more and more extra-steps to be able to "use"the os
Physically impossible. They cannot change the OS I already have.

Your retarded fantasies are not my reality.
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>>108560298
your "eternal" 2011 ewaste running legacy eol os will die of bad caps, i've had that
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>>108560327
Your retarded fantasies are not my reality.

Learn to type English, jeet.
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>>108560332
i had to go through pdf spec sheets and carefully handpick a 2025 14" thinkpad model that is certified (shit like wifi and touchpad actually working) win 10 ltsc for a normie who likes lenovo but doesnt want copilot(tm) jeet os

the clock is ticking

your sense of comfort deteriorating
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>>108560366
Your retarded fantasies are not my reality.
Amazing watching you crash out projecting your own inferiority, physically incapable of comprehending that other people are better at what you're doing. What was it like being found floating in the Ganges river?
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>>108560283
>>108560366
>we're supposed to care about some mentally ill jeet who can't get his "thinkpad" working
I have an entire warehouse full of hardware, hobbyist problems are not my problems.
to you, merely installing an operating system is your greatest tech achievement.
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>>108560377
"try changing group policies .msc to disable kernel features" is not a normal thing to say

>>108560395
calm down lol
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>>108560049
Sounds like microshit got an ultimatum to ban all developers who won't backdoor their security software
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>>108560415
>"try changing group policies .msc to disable kernel features" is not a normal thing to say
this is the kind of advice everyone gets when trying to do anything in linux but it's ok then when they do it right?
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>>108558320
This is the sort of brilliance I come to this board for. Truly amazing.
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>>108560556
Ironically it's the best way to avoid the most popular threat that's the most difficult to defend against, supply chain attacks.
>we compromised your third-party dependency of a dependency of a dependency by pushing a new version with malware that everybody built into their new binaries and published in the latest update!
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>>108557915
>Don't insult Windows! Linux sux btw!
Nobody mentioned Linux, this troon had to say Linux instead of MacOS, BSD or just admit that MS fucked up with this one.
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>>108558066
No need for any of that on Linux, just disable secure boot and keep winning.
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>>108560743
no one considers Mac a real computer.
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>>108557841
Absolutely haram.
What is their endgame?
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>>108560751
You tards had really better hope linux doesn’t become too popular.
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>>108560751
Linux secure boot really is a headache that doesn't add any real security anyway. The generated MOK is usually stored unencrypted on the filesystem anyway, so any attacker who gets root can just sign whatever module they want anyway, or compromise the entire bootloader.

It's not like Windows' secure boot is much better; what it adds is "safety" for software vendors to reliably determine you're a good goy who's not in control of their own computer and are, thus, allowed to run the software you purchased from them.

Feel free to tell me how I'm wrong if I am. But that's the impression secure boot gives me.
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>>108560953
Yep, you're 100% correct.
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>>108557915
what a retard. you deserve all gay shit microslop is doing to a pleb like you
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>>108560298
>They cannot change the OS I already have.
Google Play (Services) is being updated all the time.
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>>108560283
this was funny back in 2013. it is no longer funny at all.
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>>108558439
Install LTSC. Use Defender Remover from GitHub.
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>>108557841
lmao, big israel W
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>freetard doesnt check email for years
>account closed for inactivity
>freetard screeches and blames """""""M$$$$$""""
>other freetards screech about """"""M$$$$$$""""" without doing even 1 second of fact checking
reminder that nothing that comes out of a freetard's mouth is ever worth listening to
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>>108562205
Oh thank G*d, the brown golems had to be ordered by the only competent basically token white guy middle manager/tech lead in the whole dept. to restore their select good-goy software developer attestation accounts, because it would be too bad of a PR on orange reddit and The Register not to do so. (Just a part and parcel of distributing utilities and device drivers on Windows.)
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>>108559763

you guys are either RETARDs or MICROSOFT EMPLOYEES discussing some irrelevant internal shit
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>>108558369
then get out from your closet because you got boiked
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>>108557841
deadass?
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>>108558079
looks like bread
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>>108562205
why is that necessary again?
this twitter retard is framing corporate bureaucracy as if its the law
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>>108557841
>microsoft
Things that don't affect me at all. Feels good, man.
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freetards be like
>you can't trust app stores now install our app store
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>>108560897
It literally won't grandma looking to browse the web and normie average joe looking to score on "jailbait nudes online" will have their brains exploded by the terminal alone, unless someone pushes a distoro something exactly easy to use like Windows on a nearly 1:1 scale then you're fucked, because itll open the floodgates to normies and midwits, be glad the OS gatekeeps itself on its difficulty to use case.
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>>108557841
The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.
There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no draft, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all.

The Great Reset is inevitable.
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>>108564419
For basic bullshit like browsing the internet linux is even smoother than winblows nowadays. Updating is done thru gui as well.
it’s the moderately advanced use that is an issue, bullshit like full ffmpeg not being the default ffmpeg and needing both nvidia gpu and harness for drivers to work properly.
Essentially, linux is good if you know what you’re doing or have no idea what you’re doing, and kinda shit if you’re between those two, which just so happens to be most of /g/
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>>108562205
so they force you create a ms365 account to get signed or something? and of course forcing people to sign up means this is the only thing they use it for and never sign in... win!
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Winshart users can't use unapproved software now?
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>>108557915
Rent free
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>>108565059
You can make normie software without begging the man
If you want something with elevated privileges, like custom drivers or kernel anti cheat or whatever, you need to suck microdick for special privileges
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I have already moved away from Windows. You should too. I don't care what you use as long as it isn't Windows. I saw it was getting worse, not better when I stopped using it in 2024. It's over. Move on.
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All it took was significant public outrage on the biggest tech sites to get the accounts reinstated
>heh just a mistake goyim
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>>108559764
There are multiple ways of running unsinged on windows, otherwise developement would be near impossible
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>>108558244
this. what's the issue?
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>>108558525
>27 years using a computer, havent happened yet.
reminder this is the kind of tard who is probably resnet proxy nigger.
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>>108559764
that's only for unsigned user mode drivers
unsigned kernel mode drivers are banned unless you enable test signing or hack the bootloader or hack the kernel
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>Your retarded fantasies are not my reality.
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>>108557841
>using windows for any purpose
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>daily thread of freetards exposing themselves as pathological liars once again
humiliation ritual
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>>108565696
>the windows dead ender speaks up
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>>108565118
>You can make normie software without begging the man
You can't, actually. Even nonprivileged software has to be signed otherwise shit will bitch about unknown publisher on its first launch.
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>>108559771
>identity verification rejected
"guys guys it's only a birthday field deep inside my OS it's nothing nefarious and it will never get worse"
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>>108565542
minichad
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>>108565327
>All it took was significant public outrage
This, and unless you're a massive tentpole of the IT community you're going to be fucked in the coming years where AI, jeets, and robots ban all software that isn't the Windows Store and government spyware
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>>108567003
It's a dev account for driver signing. Not a user account. Currently.
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>>108560156
This is looking more and more like a gigantic fuck-up caused by Nadella's nepohires. Wouldn't be surprised if it's some overzealous AI being the source of the issue.
>VeraCrypt
Obvious schizobait cuz BitLocker
>WireGuard
MS doesn't have an alternative for this protocol, also used for serious enterprise networking
>Windscribe
So what about Mullvad, ProtonVPN and so on? If they're blanket banning VPN's, why target only one provider?
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>>108557841
Why the fuck are you morons still using Windows?

You can do literally everything you need or want to on Linux with opencode / claude code.
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>>108567351
is the windows wireguard client still junk? at least mullvad and proton have a usable frontend for wireguard.
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>>108567399
I use it, it's fine. It's just "Command line Wireguard but with a barebones GUI"
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>>108561272
It's the element of truth that makes it funny.
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>>108558066
Did they do away with signtool? I used to use a digital signing certificate some japanese company leaked on github, that was not revoked, to sign my drivers. Even funnier, if the certificate expired, you could just set your local time to when it wasn't, and still sign without a timestamp, which was not a big deal.

Haven't used Windows since then, but that was around 2021.
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>>108567399
I use it on my laptop and it's fine. Just like the other anon said, it's a basic bitch GUI wrapper. Throw in your configs and fogedabouit.
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>>108567440
found the batch script i used for signing.
@ECHO off
set current_time=%date:~4,2%-%date:~7,2%-%date:~10,4%
date 06/06/2018
CALL %~dp0\bin\signtool.exe sign /a /ac "%~dp0\bin\AddTrust External CA Root.cer" /f "%~dp0\bin\cert.pfx" /p "redacted" *.sys *.exe *.dll
date %current_time%
pause
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>>108557915
>Mistake.
>With two of the most secure pieces of cryptography software on earth
>While the US is at war with half the middle east
>While it's on the front page of HN days ago and still not resolved
To be young and naive again
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>>108567392
Because desktop linux sucks.
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>>108567473
No point for the US to shit on the same tech their glowies use themselves. Ofc schizos will never comprehend that and will claim conspiracy.
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>>108567351
>MS doesn't have an alternative for this protocol, also used for serious enterprise networking
Its like people just forgot L2TP and PPTP days
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>>108567525
>L2TP
>PPTP
Like I said, no alternative. Older, more complex. I know there are other protocols, including OpenVPN. So again, zero sense to target WG, especially when by default it's trivial to filter it via DPI due to it's packets being too unique. You could block global WG traffic at T1 ISP's but that doesn't fit the freetard conspiracy rhetoric.
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>>108557841
> WireGuard
Literally no value lost.
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>>108567512
glowies don't use either of those things you idiot
neither are approved
they still use some really old crypto at this point, getting something into FIPS isn't easy
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>>108567525
what? no ipsec? old vpn protocols were awful to work with.
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>>108567559
>trivial to filter
>Mullvad is the only reliable vpn to use in China
t. visits china a lot
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>>108557841
There's that monopoly behavior again. Maybe they need to be broken up?
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>>108567588
>Wireguard is the most secure piece of cryptography on Earth
>glowies purposefully try to kill future aigning of the Windows client
>despite them being able to kill it's global traffic overnight
>and the glowies use outdated crypto that WG thwarts
So as usual, freetard conspiracy theorists can't even make logical sense why the Occam's razor explanation of "Microsoft/the devs fucked up" is wrong.
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>>108567607
>Occam's razor
The midwit's surrender cry of "I'm too retarded to understand complex problems so they must not be THAT complex".
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>>108567635
>Dunning-Kruger
Peak Mt. Stupid is coming up with a convoluted explanation that fits your personal narrative (Microslop bad) while rejecting every single other possibility.

Fucking hell /g/ really is a breeding ground for midwits.
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>>108557841
I read the wireguard tweet yesterday
I just don't know what the end goal of MS is at this point
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>>108567697
Collapse through severe jeet nepotism and incompetency.
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Wireguard is back.
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>>108567578
As someone who's used openvpn and wireguard, ovpn is dogshit. Waaaayyy more overhead. Literally tested it side by side. Ovpn was getting 40% of raw bandwidth, wireguard was getting 90%. This was going to the same pfsense router from the same client device.
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>>108568151
openvpn has it's advantages. you can do things with it that wireguard is too simple to do. can a wireguard server push dns servers? that doesn't matter to home users, but in a corporate setting that matters.
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>>108558320
This nigger is a zombie in at least a dozen Russian botnets

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