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https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Babbies_First_Linux
>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
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>Like the look of GDM as a DM
>Pulls in Gnome Desktop as a dep so now I have a pointless session entry
What do?
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Do you trust Chinese software, like fastfetch? Sure it's open source but people love to hide obfuscated malware these days.
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>>108942485
America is the largest state sponsor of cyberterrorism by an order of magnitude. Do you trust software from America?
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>>108942395
For me, it's LUXIN.
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>>108942500
>America is the largest state sponsor of cyberterrorism by an order of magnitude
Source?
>Do you trust software from America?
Yeah, sometimes. If you look at the really authoritarian countries in the world, where the government has a lot of control over its citizens, those are the countries I'm most wary of.
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>>108942528
>Source?
Look at the NSA's budget alone vs any known foreign intelligence budget, or even any foreign defense budget. Remember this is coincident with programs run by CIA, FBI, DHS, DoD, ...

The only time I've ever come to grief from cyber-bullshit has been at the hands of the US government. They install backdoors on their own citizens (Angry Birds) and hoard vulnerabilities to the detriment of their citizens (Perfect Blue leaks).
>authoritarian countries
Let's run down the checklist:
>private property
imminent domain
civil asset forfeiture
money printing
America status: authoritarian
>bodily autonomy
selective service
controlled substance laws
abortion laws
mandatory vaccination
America status: authoritarian
>free speech
ask julian assange
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>>108942669
Having a large budget doesn't necessarily mean you're participating in the most "cyberterrorism". Anyway, I don't love the US, but I trust them more than I trust China.
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>>108942485
I didn't know Fastfetch was Chinese but I use Ventoy to play with Linux ISOs
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My dad sometimes needs help with his computer, running Win 10, and I can't always come over or diagnose it with the pics he sends me.

Is there any FOSS you guys can recommend for me to remote onto his machine, allowing me to mess around with it (graphically, as if I'm sitting in front of it, not via SSH or anything)?
Bonus points if it's low-latency enough to game. Old man's got a better GPU than me and I pitched the idea.
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>>108944392
VNC
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>>108943841
How many other countries are causing nuclear mishaps on purpose with computers?
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>>108944392
tigervnc
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>>108942485
I trust my maintainers to remove nefarious software at the slightest hint of trouble, that's good enough for me
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>>108944624
China carries out the most cyber attacks each year, including against their own allies. So chances are if another country's computers go down, its China.
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>>108942528
How about old stuxnet, when they practically went on brag campaign on how great engineering it was, yet can not "admit".
Don't ask don't tell, as the USA Military motto has been for decades.
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>>108944733
You mean the Chinese bomber that doesn't work but they bragged about it anyway and its constantly getting targeted on test runs?
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https://youtu.be/MyvwacFNPxc
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>>108944750
kek
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>>108944392
>Old man's got a better GPU than me and I pitched the idea.
can't you just take his gpu? foss isn't really gonna help you if you insist on being a gaymer with your dad's hardware, gonna need some proprietary garbage on windows
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>>108944432
>>108944677
Thank you both, I'll look into VNC.

>>108944801
>can't you just take his gpu?
Dad games much more than me. I basically don't. Might as well use his computer when I get the occasional itch to play something for an hour, instead of compromising my setup.
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>>108945109
My father is 70 years old and listens to WW2 military marches every day and plays strategy games every single day.
Anyhow, you should know that VNC connection is a security risk and if he leaves his 'puter open it might warrant some unwanted company.
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pcbg linux kino. jeet malding.
>>108942300
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>>108945555
Kek why are people allergic to Linux or something?
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>>108945555
grok is this real?
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>>108945545
Mine's into grind-heavy community-server MMOs and the occasional shooter.
>Anyhow, you should know that VNC connection is a security risk and if he leaves his 'puter open it might warrant some unwanted company
Figures. Maybe it's not worth it to open yet another door for his shady executables to exploit.
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>>108944723
Source: the same guys who disseminate malware full of Russian comments
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>>108945767
Source: Reality
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>>108946064
>boomer with talk radio political takes
>sole arbiter of reality
yeah that tracks
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>>108946143
I don't need Boomer takes when Chinese nationals are the second biggest group to illegally enter the US from Mexico or Canada, they can just confirm it for me.
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>>108942395
Any opinions on the Warp Terminal?
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>>108946241
Seems like it's just reinventing a bunch of things there are already tools for, and you could learn to use most of them from AI in like 5 minutes and not be shackled to some bizarre proprietary system.
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>>108946305
Good point, they also are the same people who made Ghosty, got any opinions about that one?
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>>108946315
Meme terminals blow and nobody tests with them. If it's not VTE or xterm it's a waste of time.
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>>108946329
Gay...
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>>108946241
I think it was pretty neat for its time
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>>108946347
Most macfag 'apps' are, yes.
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What's the easiest way to undervolt and monitor my GPU?
Any good videos about it? I'm scared of frying it
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I heard gnome is a bad desktop but it looks neat.
Why does gnome get shitted on a lot here?
If gnome is genuinely bad then how about kde or xfce?
Best kde distro? Best xfce distro?

And does thunar file manager have a limit to how many images can be stored in each folder?
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>>108946616
>best gnome distro?
fedora
>best kde distro?
fedora
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>>108946384
I don't know if i like or hate this? I definitely don't like the pallate.
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>>108946409
No, its gay people aren't more experimental on a distro that is basically all about experimentation.
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>>108946652
It did look a bit weird, I'm pretty sure early windows had a similar palette at some point (pre 3.11)
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>>108946715
Yeah, but that doesn't mean its good, I'd prefer white font on a black screen than weird teals and ceruleans
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>>108942395
>https://suckless.org/rocks/
redpill me on suckless and st
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>software supposedly sucks less
>software actually sucks more
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>>108946825
Where is the suckmore.org website?
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>>108946875
you just posted it
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>>108946878
>holy shit it actually exists
Well I guess it was that obvious...
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>>108946823
>>108946825
st isn't that bad, its probably the most efficient terminal on linux I'm currently aware about.
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>>108946894
>no wayland support
into the trash it goes
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>>108946919
>he isn't using a DE with no features in order to save 500MB of RAM
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>>108946911
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>>108946963
I'm on old ass X11 and what is this meme
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>>108942395
>https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Category:GNU/Linux
>Looking up terminals
>alacritty
Still in beta
>st
not complete
>rxvt-unicode
also not complete
Are there any terminals that are at least 1.0?
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What's the difference between the Terminal Emulator and XFCE Terminal? When I open both they are show the same terminal.
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>>108947041
They are the same, it's referred to as a terminal emulator because you're currently in a desktop environment, but underneath if you were to load up Linux in single user mode, it would just be a command line, similar to how Windows 9x used to literally be a shell ontop of MS-DOS, with a command prompt application there so that you can use it command line style while in a GUI.
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>>108947071
Then why does XCFE display them twice like they are different?
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>>108947041
it could be that "Terminal Emulator" just runs whichever terminal emulator you have configured as your default, which could be XFCE Terminal
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>>108947081
XFCE is a little retarded sometimes, on Mint XFCE it just has XFCE terminal, but on Xubuntu it will have both XFCE emulator and regular terminal.

Get used to seeing stupid shit like that on Linux even though it's excellent

>>108947084
Probably this
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>>108947071
you're referring to the TTY, he's talking about two differently named shortcuts
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>>108947006
xterm
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is tailscale the best solution to making jellyfin public facing? also how risky is it if I've never set up a remote server before? I don't wanna fuck it up and infect my PC or anything. my media is stored in its own directory on /media
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hello, i just installed cachyos on my desktop and it's not letting me change the resolution of my side monitor from 480p to 1440p. it says that's the only resolution supported by it. i have a 7900XT and it's connected via display port. how do i fix this?
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>>108947207
Probably failing to read EDID. Wha does dmesg say when you connect the monitor?
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>>108947189
>my media is stored in its own directory on /media
lmao
/media is meant for automounter to automatically mount external media. You know like "media" as in USB drives and stuff.
I assoom /srv/anime would be the correct place for your animes.
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>>108947359
oh lmaooo rip. I just made /media myself, it wasn't already there. it's what I was suggested to do for jellyfin. man arches/Linux default file and folder names are confusing
it works well enough at least
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>>108947318
it does indeed say No EDID read.
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>>108947403
Right, could be your system is using /run/media for the automounter but that's equivalent to /media. Some people link those two together.
>confusing
Case your animes are on a separate filesystem the logical place would be /mnt/anime. Case the animes are on the root filesystem they'd go to /srv/anime. At least in my opinion.
OR host them anywhere you please and create a symlink at the very root that points to the correct location, such as /anime -> /mnt/some_drive/anime. It's really up to you and /media sure works so there's nothing functionally wrong with that.
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>>108946616
>Why does gnome get shitted on a lot here?
There is no usecase for Gnome.
There is no usecase for shitting on Gnome.
There is no usecase.
Usecase?
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>>108947407
>>108947318
i was able to find a solution using this information, thank you, friend
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>>108947440
ah yes, looks like it's under /run/media
for me it's just confusing because I'm not like a super user or anything. I have my enjoyment of Linux for years but beyond a basic bash script and troubleshooting I don't actually know a whole lot. while it would be nice to learn I'm not actually tweaking enough stuff for this to matter. Ty for the overview as well
>>108946616
idk if it's bad per day but it feels inconsistent and poorly polished in terms of iconography and whatnot. sure it can be changed but not everyone wants to tweak stuff. for me KDE plasma has just worked and it supports OLED very well in terms of theming too
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>>108942669
>muh bodily autonomy
Nobody on earth has full, unrestricted bodily autonomy, and they shouldn't. To say otherwise would be wanting some horrible shit.
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>>108947006
xterm, konsole, gnome-terminal, whatever XFCE calls theirs, basically anything libvte
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if linux is so great then why can't i double click a .url file to open it in the browser?
use case: links to artist bandcamps/etc in my illegal peer to peer file share
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>>108947041
Terminal Emulator is a shortcut for new users that don't know what XFCE is.
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>>108948048
>why can't i double click a .url file to open it in the browser
Because you're too retarded to associate the file extension with your browser.
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>>108948054
i did try
>firefox ./test.url
but it just offers to download the .url file
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great and powerful gnu/linux fails at this simple task...
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>>108948054
>>108948048
file --mime-type --brief sees it as MIME type application/x-wine-extension-ini - in other words it's not really a recognized unique format or a thing outside of Windows, same as Windows .lnk shortcuts.

It's up to specific file manager to read it's contents URL xdg-open or directly to default web browser. Some Linux file managers may do that (I'd expect KDE to be bloated enough to have that).

The Freedesktop similar .desktop format specifies Type=Link and the URL key as one way to use it
https://whot.pages.freedesktop.org/xdg-specs/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html
The same about file manager integration applies to .desktop files, it's entirely up to file manager/desktop environment/program launcher menu how to deal with them, which ones and their values to show etc.

You could add a handler as Shell/Python whatever script in $PATH for application/x-wine-extension-ini, the .url files that checks for cases if the file being opened is a .url/.URL extension and passes the URL value from the file to web browser, otherwise file path to text editor or whatever. Registering it in ~/.config/mimeapps.list file under [Default Applications] as text/plain=myiniurlhandler.desktop and adding the details in ~/.local/share/applications/myiniurlhandler.desktop

[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Name=My INI / URL Handler
Exec=myiniurlhandler %f
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>>108948200
>text/plain=myiniurlhandler.desktop
correction: application/x-wine-extension-ini=myiniurlhandler.desktop

ask chatgpt to write the myinihandler shell script that reads .ini files and passes URL value to 'xdg-open' or 'firefox'
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Why there's no new awesomeWM stable release since 4.3 (2019)?
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>>108947403
>man arches/Linux default file and folder names are confusing
>it works well enough at least
Run
man hier
for a quick reference for the standard directories. Using /media can indeed lead to conflicts if you're unlucky.
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>>108942395
Is there any foss tool like git but more optimized for large binary files? Imagine backing up art projects and stuff
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>>108948572
oh got it, I'll move my files then
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>>108942395
Best distro for noobs that isn't Unbuntu or Minto?
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>>108949149
FEDora
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>>108949149
Fedora
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>>108947089
>Get used to seeing stupid shit like that on Linux even though it's excellent
So there isn't a way to hide or change it? That's gonna aggravate my autism.
>>108947146
>>108948046
I'll look into it.
>>108948049
Can I get rid of the generic one?
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>>108949149
Debian, Ubuntu is based off of Debian and Mint is a incest-hybrid of Debian and Ubuntu, but if you want that ease of access that Ubuntu and Mint has without being on Ubuntu or Mint, Debian is the next logical setback if you want to say in the Debian ecosystem.
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>>108949396
>say
stay*
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>>108946616
GNOME is a zoomer DE made to look and feel like a tablet interface. It's basically like running AndroidOS or iOS on a desktop. People shit on it because it's not a familiar UI/UX for a desktop user where people expect to see something similar to Windows.
In addition, some of GNOME developers and designers are some of the most obnoxious, unprofessional and autistic people in the whole Linux ecosystem. Which is another reason why the project gets hate.

>how about <any other DE>
The only "real" desktop environments are GNOME and KDE. Everything else is effectively a hobby project worked on by 1-5 people. So nothing has as many features, users and polish as these two.

>If gnome is genuinely bad
GNOME is not that bad once you add a handful of extensions. And in some distros GNOME defaults are less shit than they are in distros which don't customize GNOME out of the box. Ubuntu, Bluefin and ZorinOS come to mind as "good" default GNOME implementations despite the fact that they're lagging behind in GNOME updates. While Fedora updates GNOME at a faster rate, but doesn't fix any of it's issues through extensions and assumes you'll do it instead.
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>>108949439
>Fedora updates GNOME at a faster rate, but doesn't fix any of it's issues through extensions and assumes you'll do it instead
A good goy will serve red hat well...
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>>108946616
Best distro many people here will probably say is either KDE or Plasma, XFCE is nice because its modular but updates and bug fixes are slow since only 2 people run the project. On top of that XCFE has an ugly default that many people don't like but if its a deal breaker to not have a DE but you want something that is lightweight and minimal that you can remix into your own thing, XCFE is the way to go.
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>>108949439
>Which is another reason why the project gets hate.
The main reason is that its Apple/Apple adjacent in look and design philosophy, if you're okay with how Apple locks down its interfaces and doesn't let you change much, you'll like GNOME.
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>>108948636
Git-Xet. Afaik AI-fags use it, because their blobs are not easy to deal with, it's essentially huge binaries. Xet does diffs on chunks or something like that.
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>>108949439
>GNOME is not that bad once you add a handful of extensions
I use one extension and one Nautilus extension; that's it. I love how it works and looks. My only complaints are with a few of their default software, mainly their browser and video player.
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>>108949519
Cool i will check it
Ive also been looking at borg backup which also does a chunk diffing thingy
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kek
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>>108949498
If you think Apple "locks down" macOS then you've clearly never used it. And if you think GNOME is as "locked down" as macOS then you've never used it either.
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>>108950348
Try to make a custom graphic for Apple and get back to me.
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>>108950359
It doesn't surprise me that Redditors are more capable than 4channers.
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>>108950389
>updates and reverts back
kek
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>>108950389
If you actually believed this you wouldn't be here.
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>>108950393
Doesn't happen unless you don't know what you're doing.

>>108950407
The only reason I'm here is because I don't need to make an account.
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>>108950389
> pic
Wow! Thats... Kinda gay.
But I'd steal some ideas. Skeuomorphic buttons on top bar would look great if that fag did not over use them so much.
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>>108950418
>The only reason I'm here is because I don't need to make an account.
>can't make a burner email
>arguing that apple is actually good
I think it would be better for everyone if you just made an account and left. We wouldn't have to endure your retardation and you can be with people who actually know about computers win-win.
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>>108950418
>Doesn't happen unless you don't know what you're doing.
Until Apple gets bored updating and then forces you to buy a new laptop, oh and things on your old laptop won't work properly so they have to be converted over at an Apple IShop, oh and to this day Apple can't seem to convert old Apple .txt to new .txt files.
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Why can't Debian do localization properly? I thought these issues are supposed to be fixed in point releases?

>en-CA
Different language for Canadian menu category in LXDE.

>en-GB
WasTebasket in Thunar/Xfce "Go" menu.
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>>108950466
You might have to go into the individual apps that aren't converting over and change them manually, they probably have the "same language as system" button turned off or maybe they just don't check the system language and you need to do it manually...
Maybe they only check on boot or restart, I don't know.
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>>108950487 (Me)
They could also be sandboxed.
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>>108942395
I am once again asking of pavucontrol has widgets or hotkeys to switch audio channels on the fly?
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>>108950487
If I change my locale to en-US, those elements do seem to change, though. I think it's the locales and anything but the default Gnome seems to get less attention.
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>>108950510
Wouldn't they not change since that's the default language? Have you tried googling it? It might be a bug or someone might have already made a patch to fix it.
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>>108950526
I'm guessing the variants of English just aren't given as much attention. Nothing would be sandboxed from a fresh install? Since these are merely just typos or the odd thing in a different language there's really not much out there complaining about it. Like who is using unmaintained LXDE in Debian 13?
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>>108950507
I'm also okay if there is a keybind on XCFE that could do that for me
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>>108950546
Have you tried witching to en_US then back to en_CA to see if that works? Also why would you use en_CA when en_US isn't really that different than a handful of spellings?
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>>108950570
I set the locale to my region because apparently things like wi-fi may not work as good (different regulations) or not operate on some frequencies. Things like dates and decimal points/symbols would also be affected.
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>>108950678
Should have joined America when Trump offered :^).
But all jokes aside, ask on the official forums and see if you can get someone to work on it or figure it out for you. You could compile all the problems you an find and ask for a quick fix or a patch for it.
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>>108947041

when you ssh to legacy computer terminal emulator has possibility to present itself as legacy terminal
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>>108950444
>can't make a burner email
What makes you think I don't have one?
>arguing that apple is actually good
Where the fuck did I ever say this?
>We wouldn't have to endure your retardation
Nothing would change since you'd still be here, so people will still have to endure retardation.
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>>108950809
>Nothing would change since you'd still be here, so people will still have to endure retardation.
Ah but you won't... Yet... You're still here, even after saying you know how to make a burner email... Interesting...
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>>108948636
I think rsync would be fine for backing up art
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I have re-installed Arch with KDE the other day and I noticed that the taskbar doesn't change size automatically when I have a window full screen.
How do I fix this?
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Is there a go-to hex editor for Linux? I want to dick around with a copy of my ThinkPad's BIOS, in case the specific use case makes a difference. I've seen GHex, WxHexEditor, and ImHex discussed. The latter I've read is a bloated piece of shit.
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>>108952033
beye
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>>108951111
it will make your art AI actually, didn't you hear
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>>108949396
>>108949149
I concur, running Debian Stable rn as a noob, with KDE Plasma. Ubuntu and Mint feels janky and ancient in comparison
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Is the best Linux laptop still an M1/M2 Macbook Air or Pro?
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>>108952069
I know I made the criticism of ImHex being "a bloated piece of shit", but I was just parroting what I had read; I don't know if that's really the case. Isn't that a bit too minimal and antiquated? Otherwise, I believe I could suffice with a certain command in vim.

Considering the fact that I'm a complete noob at working with raw binary data, I'd like something with a more user-friendly UX/UI.
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>learn to compile shit so I can get around the few things Debian stable is missing
>everything I want has easy instructions
>newfound sense of freedom
>compile more shit for fun because I'm wiping this drive anyways
>try some Rust written window manager shit that's only on rolling release distros that I've always wanted to try in Sway
>oops you need x
>oops you need y
>oops you need z and a and b
>finally get everything together
>compilation goes through a laundry list of dependencies and rapes my cpu
>still needed to install more things afterwards
What the fuck. After I reinstall I refuse to put Rust on my machine. Way too heavy for a cheap laptop.
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>>108952358
Is Rust heavy or is it just executing so fast that your Laptop just gets too overwhelmed trying to parallel process instead of consecutive processing like old laptops should be doing and just kills itself to end its misery?
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What's the best/ideal way to compress audios (wav files) on Linux? I used to use Audacity back on Windows and it is available on Linux so should I just stick with that or is there a better way to go about it?
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>>108922764
Sorry for the late response.
Here it is. I think the issue here might be I don't know how to load the virtio drivers I was instructed to load.
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>>108949396
Achtually Mint is straight up Ubuntu, the difference is it comes with different set of preinstalled packages.
>>108952534
>inb4 ffmpeg
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Are there any meaningful differences between Linux Mint and Linux Mint Debian Edition for the end user?
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>>108953146
download speed of debian edition is slower than for mint for me
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>>108944392
Rustdesk
Sunshine/moonshine
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>>108946616
Gnome is the best, /g/ hates it because its full of malding retards who don't know shit.
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>>108949149
Solus
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>>108953203
Only person malding here is you.
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how does obs and vencord (discord) work on Wayland where I thought screen sharing was meant to be securely locked away or something? not complaining, I just stream to my wife when we're away from each other and I'm surprised it works
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>>108954118
Basically a mix of the XDG desktop portal talking to OBS or Discord and outputting the shared screen through Pipewire. DEs like KDE and GNOME are best at this.
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>>108954192
oh right I forgot pipewire isn't just audio. that's pretty neat. yeah I use kde for sure because streaming from my PC is like one of my major "it has to work" situations.
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>>108953037
How fucking long does it take to port Xfce to Wayland? It has been like 20 years already.
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>>108952271
Based. I'm running Debian Unstable and it is more usable than Ubuntu 26.10 and Linux Mint.
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>>108954640 (Me)
25.10/26.04*
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>>108952292
No, the newest Framework laptop is.
Apparently Intel recently made CPUs that are rivaling the M4/M5 so upcoming Intel laptops will be better than M1/M2. Especially considering the M1/M2 are barely supported on Linux.
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>>108954652
>unironical jeetwork cultists
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>>108955271
Seems cool
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>>108942395
>LUXIN
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>>108950466
run
sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
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>>108954617
I wouldn't expect anything from Xfce these days. It's deprecated.
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>>108954617
wayland is shit, I wish Xfce would just focus on fixing the shit they have on X11 like their file manager not being able to trim long filenames
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>>108942485
Thanks I'd rather china spy on me than governments that can actually put me in jail
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>>108955449
Anon X11 is literally deprecated and no big groups are focusing on it anymore. It's inherently insecure.
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Is there a music player like harmonoid that lets me sort by album artist, but display it the same way the sort by album sorting in harmonoid does? surely this would be easy to change in harmonoids source but idk. i stg nothing ever comes close to how music bee handles everything and its sheer flexibility
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>>108955461
>Anon X11 is literally deprecated and no big groups are focusing on it anymore. It's inherently insecure.
You forget that another person is literally working on another X11 based Window manager named Phoenix. So don't get your hopes up.
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>>108955481
Rewrite your goddamn gibberish, you little piece of shit.
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>>108955461
X11 is a protocol not a display server, the display server you're talking about is called Xorg, and it has a maintained fork called Xlibre.
But even then Xorg itself is relatively complete, unlike wayland which is missing a lot of functionality.
>but muh security
Let's be real, if someone really cares about security, they would be using something like QubesOS where every window is isolated in a VM.
Wayland "security" is just about preventing windows from reading the contents of each other.
Most of the time you are running windows you trust, so this isn't a problem even on X11.
Walyand can protect you from spyware and keyloggers but it cannot protect you from ransomware or rootkits because these don't depend on your display server, and if someone gets root access then the display server is completely irrelevant as they can read anything, only QubesOS would actually protect you from this kind of malware because each window is actually properly isolated inside a VM.
People who shill wayland as "more secure" do not understand the actual kind of security that wayland provides, which is actually a very thin layer of security at a cost of a lot of convenience
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>>108955605
ok,

1. see this view for sort AZ
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>>108955683
2. i want it to look like the album view when i sort by artist, but instead it does this
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>>108955691
3. further, it seems i can just do it from dolphin by manual organisation. notice as well this allows for surting albums by year instead of AZ which makes more sense
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Today my ISP did maintenance and they apparently added full IPv6 support and that reflected back to me as my X session login breaking because NetworkManager grabbed the new reverse DNS IPv6 hostname. Today was already a bad day and then I boot my PC and it's just black screen. My car broke down too. Fuck me.
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>>108955683
>James Blake
Good choice anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZSoMagoqtI
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>>108956253
<3
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I had a dream where I was mansplaining Linux to my sister, and she got really turned on and started feeling me up and breathing in my face before making out with me. Has this been the experience for anyone irl? Because unfortunately, convincing my sister to install Linux has proven more difficult than this. That said, she is buying a Raspberry Pi soon to recreate foid trinkets she saw on TikTok, so maybe she'll warm up to Linux.
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Between ext4 and btrfs, which would you recommend [spoiler]for gaming?[/spoiler]
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>>108956717
ext4 is better for storage drives and stable distros. You should use btrfs for the root disk if it's an unstable distro, but again storage drives should just be ext4
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>>108956717
ext4 because there are rare instances where wine doesn't handle case folding correctly on its own. Usually concerning mods.

btrfs CPU overhead disqualifies it unless you have really shit flash or no flash.

>>108956831
>ext4 is better for storage drives
No integrity and high format overhead makes it a singularly stupid choice for storage drives.
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>>108956831
Any reason to not use F2FS case the storage device in question is NVMe?
>>108956140
>NetworkManager grabbed the new reverse DNS IPv6 hostname
I don't get it. NetworkManager set your IPv6 reverse DNS as your hostname? Was it DHCPv6 doing its thing or what?
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>>108956977
>IPv6 enabled
>reverse-DNS starts returning a PTR record
>NetworkManager (default conf) thought "hey, let's use this as hostname" so overrides /etc/hosts
>elogind can't find a static valid hostname anymore
>elogind overwrites hostname with the reverse-DNS FQDN
>new hostname is not in /etc/hosts so doesn't resolve locally
>unresolvable hostname breaks X authentication and session bus startup
>lightdm relies on session bus
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Enter the mind of the average /fglt/ user: >>108956636
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>be me
>run mint
>hear about 7zip vulnerability
>try to sudo apt upgrade that shit
>"7zip is already on the latest version (23.01) you fucking dumb-ass"
>the latest version is actually 26.01
>download the appropriate Linux version from the official website
>no Idea where to extracct it, each folder I think of said they're read-only
>try to find a ppa page I can add to my software sources
>there isn't one
Ok, I give-up, how the fuck am I suppose to be doing this?
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>>108956977
>Any reason to not use F2FS case the storage device in question is NVMe?
Usually no performance advantage unless it's a potato drive that wants compression, worse tooling and general UX, format migrations break backward compatibility with old kernels.
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>>108957439
use a distro that doesn't take ages to update its packages
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>>108957439
Install the PeaZip Flatpak
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>>108957439
Homebrew has it. Or you can just install the build deps from your distro and build from source.

Are you actually planning to extract random sketchy 7z files authored after April 24 2026? For most people this isn't an urgent issue.


>>108957721
It's only in bleeding edge atm. Arch and Gentoo have it and almost nothing else.
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>>108957810
wait, that's it? I already have it. Guess it isn't an issue then.
>>108957813
>Homebrew has it.
I see, thank you
>Are you actually planning to extract random sketchy 7z files authored after April 24 2026?
I might be, because I'm retarded.
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>>108957439
Relax dude, you're fine even if you're on an old version because Debian backports security patches
Here, run:
apt show 7zip

To see the actual version, you should see something like "Version: 25.01+dfsg-1~deb13u2", those extra letters after the version are debian specific patches.
If you're still worried then check the changelog to see if that specific vulnerability is patched:
https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/7/7zip/7zip_25.01+dfsg-1~deb13u2_changelog
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>>108958021
that's not cve-2026-48095 baka
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>>108957029
>overrides /etc/hosts
why would anybody think that's a good idea?
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>>108958147
I meant as in /etc/hosts was in lower priority, I guess, not that it literally overwrote the file. This is stage3 gentoo openrc desktop profile btw.
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>>108958114
>cve-2026-48095
Well shit... looks like my version is vulnerable...
https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2026-48095
though p7zip seems fine
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Does Stallman run hurd on his laptop now?
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>>108958279
Stallman uses the operating system known as GNU/Emacs with Linux as the kernel
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wat do you use to get update notifications on debian
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>>108942395
Alright could use some help anons, I asked a few weeks ago but came back after trying some things. I'm trying to get a liveusb to install a new distro on my machine. I've already used this USB on another PC with the exact same specs as well as several laptops with no issues. for some reason the ONLY OS that will boot is the original distro.
I've tried:
removing each stick of RAM one at a time
resetting BIOS
updating bios
removing all hard drives
removing each hard drive one by one
Removing the video card and swapping it with a different one.
I've even tried taking a drive with a working OS from a PC with the exact same specs and it will not boot properly. It doesn't get far enough into load to see errors, it just freezes
Secureboot and fastboot are disabled. I feel like I'm going crazy. Any possible solutions?
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>>108957029
>reverse-DNS starts returning a PTR record
>NetworkManager (default conf) thought "hey, let's use this as hostname" so overrides /etc/hosts
What an odd thing to happen. Is your /etc/hostname empty?
Haven't used NetworkManager lately but having an empty /etc/hostname resulted in getting some random crap hostname from my router.
>>108958480
What's the boot mode? Legacy BIOS or UEFI?
>I've even tried taking a drive with a working OS from a PC with the exact same specs and it will not boot properly.
>will not boot properly
If it's Windows there's anti-features preventing it from booting even if there's no technical limitation to do so.
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>>108958498
>What's the boot mode? Legacy BIOS or UEFI?
Right now it has PopOS 22. It's UEFI as far as I can tell.
The transferred drive has Debian installed.
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>>108958498
>What an odd thing to happen. Is your /etc/hostname empty?
No.
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>>108958254
It's just dead so nobody filed a CVE. 7zip 16 is effected -> p7zip is.
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p7zip is a deprecated. You shouldn't be using that. Debian 12 moved it over to 7zip in the last point release.
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>>108944392
> "can't always come over" then just use rustdesk, it's foss and works fine for remote desktop. no you're not gaming on it though.
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>>108945576
> grok is this real?

nah, you're getting farmed by a chatbot.
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>>108946940
> enjoy spending 4 hours configuring your wallpaper while i just click next
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>>108948049
> imagine needing a shortcut to launch a terminal in 2024
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>>108949498
> apple design philosophy without the hardware polish or the ecosystem

ngmi if you think gnome is usable out of the box
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>>108949519
> git-xet is just another bandaid for people who can't figure out how to not check in 50gb models
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>>108950495
> sandboxed like your brain is sandboxed from thinking critically
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>>108950558
> just set up a hotkey in xfce and pipe it through sentx.ai to parse the output. way faster than scripting it yourself.
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>>108949366
You probably can, with Menulibre or some of those tools used to modify .desktop entries. Or maybe you can delete it from /usr/share/applications or $HOME/.local/share/applications
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>>108952534
ffmpeg with libmp3lame or opus. audacity is fine but overkill for batch jobs.
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>>108953146
lmde is debian stable with mint on top, regular mint is ubuntu-based. if you hate snaps and want older but rock-solid packages, go lmde.
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>>108954192
> xdg portals are just dbus with extra steps and still break half the time
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>>108955461
> anon thinks deprecated means dead. plenty of groups still run it, just not the ones you read about.
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>>108958254
p7zip is a transitional package in Debian 13 (for upgrades from 12). It's 'fixed' because p7zip has been removed and simply downloads the vulnerable 7zip.
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>>108955509
> phoenix is just a hobby project by one guy, not gonna save x11 from rotting
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After using Linux Mint for more than one and a half years (I don't have any prior experiences with Linux), would switching over to Devuan provide me with any great difficulties?
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>>108959018
>years
*year
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I have a directory of about 150GB on a VPS which is basically a potato with storage glued to it, we're talking single core and less than a GB of RAM.
What would be the best way of archiving this given the environment?
Tarring it and compressing it is the obvious answer but I imagine it would either take forever with those specs or be reasonably fast but with minimal compression.
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>>108959460
just let it (rsync probably) run and it will take however long it takes
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>>108959460
Advanced compression is memory size constrained, so rsync transport encryption is probably about as good as anything else. You can play with xz --memlimit and see what happens. Have swap so you don't accidentally run OOM halfway through an archiving job.
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>>108959026
1.5 is non-singular, ESL-kun; you would use the plural.
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>>108959694
>>108959826
Okay thanks.
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So mgorny did run out drobbins just so that Gentoo can shit the bed once a year when a new Python version becomes system-wide standard?
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>>108958451
The default Debian desktop does this with GNOME Software. For servers, there's the unattended-upgrades package.
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>>108958860
It's not far off at all.
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>>108959018
Depends how important compatibility with systemd is for you. Personally, I would stick with the mighty Debian.
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>>108946825
> software sucks more and costs you a subscription for the privilege
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>>108947041
> one has tabs and a gui for preferences, the other is just a window with a prompt.
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>>108947084
> imagine not knowing your own default terminal
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>>108947403
> linux default file names are confusing

bro just read the arch wiki once and you'll be fine. jellyfin on /media is cursed though.
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>>108948197
> mfw a distro hop doesn't fix basic user error
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new spambot?
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Premiere Pro, Substance 3D Painter and Meta Horizon Link for my Quest 1 are holding me back from switching to Linux despite being an user, are there solid alternatives for all of this?
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>>108952271
>mfw debian stable is the "noob" choice now

kde plasma is fine but calling mint "ancient" when you're literally on debian stable is some galaxy brain shit
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>>108960445
I will not fuck the cat and she is now going up for adoption.
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>>108953174
>mfw still using teamviewer in 2025

ngmi
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>>108954231
pipewire is the only thing keeping linux audio from being a complete clown fiesta. kde's okay but i still don't trust it not to break on update.
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>>108954617
> wayland port is done when it's done, cry harder
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>>108960229
for me? its
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>gnome isn't shit you just have to use extensions that break every release
anon i...
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>>108960533
So just let your distro take care of that by installing system extensions.
>>108960470
>Fails at greentext
I'm pretty happy with GNOME, but I do like to install random DEs on a test machine for fun. Xfce used to be pretty cool but I can no longer run X11 due to hardware constraints.
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>>108960533
>break every release
never happened to me, oh wait i had like 5 years ago but had to wait like 2 weeks for it to work again, think I could've fixed it by changing version number or something
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>this is acceptable to gnomies
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>>108960533
You awoke the gnannies :^)
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It's weird that no one likes gnome yet XCFE is so inoffensive and so Linux-y that no one ever talks about it, it doesn't even really have haters.
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>>108960583
they are woke by definition. they love gnomes and they love gimps. some of them maybe both.
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>>108960589
xfce is so dogshit that there is no reason to talk about it.
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>>108960591
I wanted to love gnome but I couldn't, gimp is actually pretty good only criticism I have for it is that its unintuitive as fuck and the only reason they seem to do it that way is because "Well Photoshop does it that way so we can't do it that way!"
Like guys... Great software becomes great because they sometimes copy off the sheets of others.
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>>108960589
It's inoffensive, but it's also lightweight for something that isn't a tiling WM
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>>108960598
i just use photopea. wish there was a native version of it.
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>>108960589
There's barely anything to discuss about XFCE
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>>108960618
Based XFCE, it's just fucking there, yeah it can't share in the properties, and don't even fucking think about scaling up desktop and everything because it's the same as decreasing the resolution, but it's there and it's lighter than the other desktops.
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>>108960589
i moved to icewm for an older machine. xcfe is too gtk. was trying lxqt before.
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>>108960589
should have stayed in the last century
don't really think much about it besides that
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>>108960445
>Premiere Pro
DaVinci Resolve. I think you can use older versions of Premiere in Wine too
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>>108960589
GNOME is the default on several huge distros that have major sway over the whole ecosystem and its devs are frequently getting into scuffles with distros over packaging. GNOME is also one of the most opinionated desktops out there for something that's a default. If it was a just weird contrarian thing with its own community people wouldn't hate it nearly as much but it's the weird contrarian thing that many people see as their first impression of Linux. It forces new adopters of Linux that don't know any better about their options to abandon their old workflows and start from scratch, and when they complain the devs basically tell them to fuck off and that their wants are not important in more formal language.

XFCE is inoffensive because it's inoffensive. It's extremely customizable, out of the box is much more of a traditional desktop, it has a very slow release cycle, doesn't try to reinvent itself every decade, and it has no influence on what everyone else is doing.

Also GNOME is called fucking GNOME and its logo is a fucking foot, and xfce has da mouse. That helps.
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>>108960826
None of this would be a problem if KDE was less shit.
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>>108960842
>if KDE was less shit
if distro maintainers were less retarded you mean
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>>108960826
>doesn't try to reinvent itself every decade,
That's what I think it is, XFCE is like windows classic running on a brand new kernel, it's been the same forever, GNOME is like the new Windows interface, but at least Linux niggas have a choice.
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>>108960847
KDE's problems have nothing to do with distro maintainers.
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>>108960880
fedora and rhel niggers regularly complain about the complexity of packaging kde, their disjointed split release schedule, "dependency sprawls" and other things that don't matter. it's a maintainer issue. gnome is the default not because it's good but because it is easy to package for package trannies.
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Finally getting set up with linux. Got my new homelab running debian, and set up a spare drive on my main desktop to run bazzite. I tried to get my work laptop set up with mint, but the specialty software is only set up to run on Ubuntu, and even Ubuntu kept crashing the software, so I've rolled back for the moment until I can figure out how to get it working. Now I just need to figure out how to sync all my files between everything so I can have all my meme images on all my devices
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>>108960903
Still sounds like a KDE problem.
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>>108960920
more like a skill issue of the maintainers
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>>108960921
If I was an upstream dev I would do everything within my power to make life easy for downstream.
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>>108960931
why should they care? do they get money from fedora? they they got money to do nothing all day? do they get money to think about which button to remove next? or do they make a DE that users want to actually use?
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>>108960939
>why should a producer care that a distributor can get its product to the consumer
Is this a real question?
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>>108960952
distros that care about their user are going to get kde packaged because kde is what the users want. distros that do not care about their users ship with gnome. simple as that.
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>>108960596
See, you don't hate it enough because its that good!
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>>108960826
>XCFE is perfect despite being years behind and being deved by two people
>GNOME is bad because its logo is a foot and its developers hate you
Okay... You can make arguments for me it you want I guess lol
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>>108960961
nta, but silly argument considering how modular Linux is and how easy it is to swap des.
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>>108961031
it's a silly argument that swapping des makes gnome being the default alight and not having a kde version of a distro also alright when basically nobody swaps des except arch fags when they update their kernel again.
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>>108961042
Usually if I see that it uses Gnome I just skip it, what distro uses gnome that you'd like to use? I can't really think of one that matters.
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>>108960826
The GNOME name, logo and general aesthetic is sweet though
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>ios interface on my desktop looks sweet though
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>>108961089
I don't shit on gnannies because if they want their Linux to look like IOS, then go for it. Apple literally is just a stolen Linux distro anyway, but I'm not going to pretend that I understand it. But maybe I'll give GNOME another chance, I've been a windowcuck my whole life and to be honest learning how to use a pretend IOS DE I guess is as pointless and silly to me as it is for Applefags to boot up KDE and learn how to use a scuffed WIndows DE.
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>>108961123
my taskbar makes their workspace workflow obsolete. the taskbar mogs gnomes existence.
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>>108960909
Mint is Ubuntu lmao. Check out your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory, it'll give a hint on which Ubuntu version it is.
>how to sync all my files between everything so I can have all my meme images on all my devices
Absolute dumbest (but just works) solution would be timed rsync events where everyone syncs to everyone.
>>108961042
This post is extremely silly.
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>>108961151
I'm well aware, that's why I thought it would work, but the software wouldn't even boot up
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>>108961468
>just fork harmonoid and change the sort field yourself if you care that much
if i could just pay someone like $50 to do it for me i would
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>>108944723
>China carries out the most cyber attacks
Source?
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>>108946625
Why?
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>>108960589
it has no haters because it has no users
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>>108962041
it just works and has good defaults?
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>>108962159
No other distro "just works"?
>good defaults
What are those?
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>>108962169
all the noobuntu spins are outdated and have extensions and other changes done to gnome usually
debian has vanilla gnome and kde but both are outdated as fuck
arch exists and you can use that if you want
what else is there left except fedora? which has both as official versions with default settings (no extension bs) and both are up to date. fedora also has a gui installer and people actually use that distro so there .rpm packages for third party software.
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>>108962183
I've been using Manjaro (with Plasma) for a few years with good success.
But I'm curious about other options too, especially something easy to use for people who aren't very linux-oriented yet.
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>>108962159
It doesn't. You're thinking of Aurora/Bluefin and Ultramarine.
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>shit nobody has ever heard about or even used
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>>108962204
i don't care much about forks and their changes because if i want changes done to the base distro they can be done by me. if those changes are so huge that it is a pain in the ass to run them there is no reason to run the distro.
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>>108962204
nta and im not reading the whole thread, but why not just use arch? its easy to install and the installer even gives you base plasma
manjaro sucks and is a leech on arch. seriously, they contribute nothing back and their packages are like 2 weeks out of date which defeats the point
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>>108962315
>2 weeks out of date which defeats the point
The fuck do you think "the point" of Arch is? Do you really think people are autistically updating their OS every day? Most people go months without updating their OS. Also, Manjaro being 2 weeks behind Arch is quite literally irrelevant compared to Ubuntu being 2 years behind Arch.
Manjaro is to Arch what Mint is to Debian. A ready to use OS which you don't need to configure. That's the real "point" of Manjaro.

Besides, with the current wave of supply chain attacks in open source software you're actually much better being at least a week or two behind in updates.
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>>108962389
>mfw Mint nigga waiting to get 26.04's kernel
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>>108962389
>supply chain attacks in open source software
guessing this is also because of all the shit tier llm code
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>>108962429
It's because of shit tier security practices. Almost none of the affected projects used LLMs in any way.
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>>108962455
interesting, what do you suppose the solution is?
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>>108962470
containerize everything
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>>108962473
so every system should be flatpack?
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>>108962481
flatpak should be every system

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