>>462577
Affinity > Gimp

>>462577
It's infinitely better than gimp. So far the catch seems to be no linux support?
I love this software from the 5 hours I just spent trying it out. I don't know if I trust it but it has basically already replaced other options I used to use.

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also wireshark lights up like a christmas tree when those programs are being ran

>>462588
>You cant create memes about zoomers, boomers, women, asians, ...
We are done

Affinity suite got sold because it is not profitable enough to create and sell application software for purely utilitarian purpose. It is not 1999.

This is a death rattle for another software product that some European guys (white, male, pale and stale) built.

It may get shelved in 2-5 years after the Canva execs cannot figure out how to further monetize the user's data. Maybe sold off to the Chinese.

There cannot be a commercial competitor that recreates Adobe or Affinity suite without some buyout grift in the end of it. Same can be said about office suites, operating systems.

Proprietary file formats and SaaS are a long term liability. You don't own projects you store on cloudshit, you don't own project files whose formats are not open.

Open file formats and communication protocols gradually surface and get adapted out of necessity and desperation, but that takes decades, as in like half of your life. Blender will be your general purpose multimedia project editing program in 2064 when all the proprietary competitors gatekeeping the respective tooling and technologies have died.

Graphic designers eat slop.

It's still using raster brushes so no idea what all the adobe killer people are talking about. Inkscape still has better gradient mesh export too.

>>462597
it has a raster version and a normal pixel version?I think it's pretty good.

>>462591
You can; manually. It's just AI that won't play ball, which is standard across the board.

>>462577
>What is the catch?
The catch is that they make money with your data.
That's why it's """"""""""""free""""""""""" now. Harvesting that shit is more lucrative than selling.

I'm not a heavy 2d person lately so I've actually switched to affinity (from Photoshop) for a couple of years now and it's been perfectly serviceable
New one is really good because splitting vector and raster functionality has felt artificial for years. You can just customise a space to have all the stuff you need and never switch workspaces.
I need to see if they've fixed their canvas rendering issues and non-100pc zooms for large images.

Gimp is simply unusable if you're a professional. Need to do print work? Basically impossible. I fucking wish there was a photo editing equivalent to blender, but there just isn't so far. Graphite looks promising, hopefully they don't fuck it up.

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>>462614
You can opt out of it but yeah I think eventually this will be the case. Not currently but maybe within the next 10 years. Hopefully someone makes an open source alternative or fuckin decompiles this shit cause it's honestly my favorite /gd/ tool now.

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>>462626
>You can opt out of it

These kinds of companies have an army of lawyers to figure out how to set up things in a way you eventually can't opt out of 'it'.

They also change around what that 'it' you are trying to opt out is every 2-6 months.

Whitey autists did all the work to build this software, now it's time to retard it to death for whatever profit and then shelve it indefinitely.

Patcher updated to bypass login for V3 and run it completely offline.
https://github.com/Still34/AffinityPatcher/releases/tag/v1.2.0

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Why not just pirate Adobe?

>>462634
You couldn't pay me to use adobe software

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>>462634

>>462588
kek, always the troons in the loon bins

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>>462577
>Training your future AI replacement for free

>>462645
If you work for yourself or have a fanbase then that's amazing

>>462645
Will it capture workflow?

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>>462647
I see ok.

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>>462577
it's free because it's over

AI is the future, and they're trying to capture the last batch of graphic designers who still think they can get jobs without using AI

>Idiots on Affinity forum doesnt even know what pixel art is and how ti works
>Gaslighting me that Photoshop works the same
>You cant create GIFs
I used Affinity for 10 minutes and Im going back to Photoshop. I knew there is a catch that its free...

>>462634
>Cracks randomly stop working
>It will still instal bullcrap of software running in background

>>462595
>white, male, pale and stale
You shit in the streets dont you

Can it be used entirely offline? I dont want to need ANY account, have ANY online checkup or need ANY connectivity. I want to use it in an RV with no internet.

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>>462661
You, kind sir, are an idiot.

>>462655
i work in a company that you have heard of and there is no ai replacing the people working on the branding and the ux/ui of said company. the llm code generation is generally a joke too.

the only use is a chatbot redirecting users to faq pages instead of having an indian talk to them.

>>462730
Thx for the years of completing all the integral hard labor for this product, whitey, go die now.

Did they have to move around every feature and redesign the export interface. I searched for 20 minutes to find cycle selection box. Loads of crashes too.

>>462738
You need to create account to download it but you can launch the app itself without interwebz connection

>>462739
I can always tell when people doesnt have arguments

>>462661
You can make gifs. It literally has gif export.
I don't know why you're indian and/or retarded but it's sad.

>>462743
They said the same thing about horses, letters, candles, etc. The only reason AI can't fully replace you yet is because training the model is too expensive for now. But the moment your salary will surpass the annual subscription, you're out of the picture. Keep in mind that the current tech is still in beta and less than a decade old (and already making waves).

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>>462749
>Boohoo — some random dudes in some forum don’t know what pixel art is or how it works.
>Boohoo — I’m too incompetent to watch a yt video on how to make GIFs with Affinity (which literally takes one minute).
>Boohoo — I’ll go back to the greater evil and throw my money into its maw, or keep cracking it and feed their AI my data too.

Will it still run properly if I remove its access to internet?

>>462750
>You can make gifs.
>>462756
>I’m too incompetent to watch a yt video on how to make GIFs with Affinity
Every tutorial I found says I need to use some other app to stitch it together.
Enlighten me, fellow retards.

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>>462758
OK, sry, you’re right. After taking a closer look, it seems that for animated GIFs you actually need external software or an online GIF maker. I’d still prefer that over Adobe, unless you’re constantly trying to animate some perverted stuff.

Or change your artistic output to infinite zoom.

>>462756
>I’ll go back to the greater evil and throw my money into its maw, or keep cracking it and feed their AI my data too.
Im sorry but Photoshop is simply the best software for anything 2D related. Whether you are editing photos or doing video game graphics. Anytime I want to do something I just do it or search for tutorial and I end up with exactly what I initially wanted. It also got better shortcuts. Not to mention it supports all kind of autistic file formats. I bet people at Canva are using Photoshop.

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>>462760
I would rather eat Indian street food than go back to Adobe.
Besides, Affinity Photo meets all my needs, and the few filters that are missing don’t bother me, since I use it almost exclusively for classic image editing anyway.
And no, I don’t think so.

>>462761
>Affinity Photo meets all my needs
Good for you, I found new bug today and transform feature that require 5 steps while in PS its under single key shortcut

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>>462766
Sure, a 10-year-old software can’t completely keep up with something that has been developed for 35 years. Illustrator is also much more powerful than Designer. But overall, the suite can keep up very well.

Some early design influencers are already helping to improve the programs. Who knows what progress Affinity will make in a year, and the learning curve is developing in parallel.

And even if I’m repeating myself: anything is better than the Adobe behemoth, so far.

>>462767
>Learn photoshop
>Make exact copy of it
>Dont include Adobe background processes and cloud craps
I would even pay for this

>>462772
>Dont include Adobe background processes
Nobody tell him.

>>462773
If you think you can turn them off for startup, you cant. There is a whole thread on adobe forum how to turn off background craps from adobe, some guy even started editing registry...

>>462781
>75$/mo software includes bloatware
>perfectly fine working cracks by monkrus are available

come again?

>>462587
I got it working well on Linux by using this: https://github.com/ryzendew/AffinityOnLinux

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>>462785
>75$/mo
More like 20 (Used to be 14 tho)

>>462799
theres ai credit fees too

>>462785
>perfectly fine working cracks by monkrus are available
None of the cracks I tried worked longer than week. After week it will figure out its not genuine. No matter how many things I block in firewall...

You all have Stockholm-Syndrome from Adobe, LOL

>>462840
Photoshop is objectively best software in its class while Adobe is objectively worst company. Hard to not have Stockholm syndrome...

>>462577
The catch is professionals don't have 20+ years experience using it, and telling someone you don't have an Adobe account will make them assume you're not a professional, but some broke kid trying to break their way into the field.

>>462886
Which software I use to get the job done for my client is nobody’s business.

>>462892
Just as no one complains when I use DaVinci instead of Premiere. The result is what matters.

>>462892
Sure, if you want to work on your own. But when you are beginner and are looking for employment or you just cant make your type of content on your own (like video game graphics) then you are kind of forced to use industry standard....

>>462902
For digital content I can export TIFF, PNG, JPEG, and GIF.
For print I can create a PDF/X-3 from Publisher.
For vectors I can export EPS.
How are these not industry standards?

Do you even work as a designer?

>>462911
>We truly appreciate your interest and the valuable insights you've shared regarding your skill set. However, at this juncture, our talent acquisition strategy is focused on identifying a candidate whose expertise aligns seamlessly with Adobe suite proficiency to facilitate optimal collaboration and synergy within our dynamic design team ecosystem. Should our organizational priorities evolve in the coming periods, would you be amenable to us proactively reaching out to explore potential future opportunities?

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>>462913
Fuck this Stuck-In-The-Past-Company and move on.

>>462577
>sign up
jewed

>>462911
I was working on an annual report and the person doing it the following year was pissed I didn't use Indesign. It's ok for freelance stuff but if you work with others 95% of them will use Adobe.

>>462919
In general, you’re right.

But I’ve also seen large companies still working with QuarkXPress — not to mention all the plotters that rely on CorelDRAW, even if they’re the minority.

With Affinity, however, the perfect competitor has finally emerged — but things take time to change. For students and freelancers, it’s a dream not having to buy expensive licenses and still being able to work commercially. Because of that, it’s only a matter of time before it becomes more widespread. Influencers are already creating the first tutorials and how-tos, and if more good features come with the upcoming Canvas updates, things will get tight for Adobe in the long run.

>>462924
>things will get tight for Adobe in the long run.
All I really want is Photoshop without bloatware. Like we usedto have back in CS6

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Any advice on how I can mirror my vector pen line so the right side looks like the left?

>>462955
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju-EWAi7bKo

>>462577
I don't trust canva

>>463010
then go on and design your shitty graphics in gimp.

>>463010
Affinity requires an internet connection and a login in order to be used.
Maybe your skepticism is justified after all. And sorry for being rude in the first place

It is great for 10 years alredy. Gimp has unusable UX.
>>462577
Surely Canva will do something to make money from Affinity purchase. But right now there is no reason not to use it.

>>463105
>Affinity requires an internet connection
>>462748

>>463113
Yes, I know. It still leaves a bitter aftertaste. I agree with most people here: so far it’s good, and I have to trust Canva and Serif and just hope that this trust won’t be broken.

The CEO of Serif has also flirted with an Affinity version that runs (only?) in the browser – which would be a nightmare for software purists. Ironically, he said that performance wouldn’t allow it, which surprises me, since there has long been an online Photoshop that runs very smoothly.

>>463132
Figma is frequently crippled by the web browser performance limitations. A 2-4GB of RAM per tab is not enough. A multiuser thing with lots of entities synced up precisely is heavy. Like the Factorio game.

>>462577
the problem with GIMP is that it's features are not complete and up to date enough for professionnals and the design is too clunky and unintuitive for newcomers. It's actually quite powerful once you get to know it and it's completely free, no tracking, no cracking needed and you can keep it forever. It would probably massively benefit from a new design and a couple of qol features like drawing shapes. But no one cares enough / has enough time to put all that work in.
I still prefer using it over anything else because I'm on linux and paint.net isn't available. GIMP is still fine for basic montage, photo editing and meme making imo

>>462577
>>462579

AI > Affinity > Adobe > Gimp

>>463181
>AI
and then spend same amount of time in Affinity or Adobe polishing it ending up recreating it

So Affinity is better?

>>463248
Than AI? Yes. Than Photoshop? No

>>463255
But Affinity is more then just Photoshop, Weisenheimer.

>>463277
And it's still inferior to both Illustrator and Photoshop.
The only thing that Affinity does better is PDF design (not a high bar to clear considering InDesign is ass).

>>463280
You have no idea what you are talking about, bro.

>>463277
True, only upside of Affinity is that you get 3in1 for free. Photoshop is still better than Affinity Photo.

>>462754
who is 'they' in this scenario?

The only catch with Affinity (as of current v3 release under Canva) is that it require a Canva account as formality when you first install it, it won't ask login again. If you're paranoid enough with muh data, you can opt out on setting, or even firewall block Affinity installation folder.

Feature wise, Affinity can totally replace Ps, Ai, and Id workflow; except Ps animation and some specific non-destructive editing. It's funny that companies willingly getting squeezed by Adobe subscription knowing that Affinity could handle the project for free now, with less performance bloat.

t. user since v1, and finally accepted that Canva's v3 actually an improvement over Serif's v2