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How fucked is the industry really? Who are hotties in mainstream porn who started in/after 2020? I start with Melanie Marie
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Eden Ivy. Perfect for ass and throat fucks and even pissdrink. Too bad about her early surgery though
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>>30193569
No there's always gonna be girls who dream of "the porn star lifestyle" that you don't quite get with OF (at least not the traditional OF style content) so even if they'll have their own OF etc. site they'll still be doing studio work. I think the primary difference is that with OF you're doing the work yourself and you have to put in time and effort to get those paychecks whereas with studio work you just show up and get worked and get paid. Kind of like the difference between starting a YouTube channel and trying to be Hollywood actor.
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>North America
zero interesting prospects. they do like 3 hard scenes a year max and rest is OF garbage
>Western Europe
Dolly Dyson
Britney Dutch
>Central Europe
Zero talent with looks above 6/10
>Eastern Europe
too many to count
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>>30193569
Why do people even bother making new porn? It has to compete with all the porn which is already out there, and it's not like they're doing anything new and exciting. There is already far more porn than a person could fap to in a lifetime.
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>>30194965
>why it is not being posted on /gif/?
because people don't make oc or make webms/mp4s to post here
it's like 4 people who do it, and everything else is reposts
there's a few sites that post leaks like thothub, etc
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Lucy Mendez
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Cheyla Collins / soy_sheila
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>>30194870
>these days
What is this, 2008?
>>30194829
People have short attention spans and need an influx of new material to watch. Also, if you're paying for a monthly subscription with no updates, you begin to question why you even bother.
>>30194946
OF is 80%+ trash. No one knows how to use a goddamn camera.
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>>30195111
>No one knows how to use a goddamn camera
buddy nobody in porn is good at this or ever has been
even professionals are trash
you aren't watching some bitch get railed to appreciate the lighting
absolute retarded take
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>>30195122
>buddy nobody in porn is good at this or ever has been
Bullshit. If you can't tell the difference in directing some random 2000s Evil Angel scene and your favorite OF girl, you're blind or pay no attention to how the video is shot.
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>>30195122
It's not award winning cinematography, but you can aboslutely tell the difference. It is glaringly obvious for anyone who is even a hobby photographer, and shitty picture distracts from things happening on screen.
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I feel like all the big stars are OF girls now. Even the top male stars like Girthmaster and Johnny Sins are working with girls like Ari Kytsya, Camilla, Madi Ruve.. Then you got girls like Jameliz (jellybeanbrainz) and a bunch of others who just fuck their boyfriends.
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I like lola valentine
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Indica marie
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>>30194829
That's like asking Why do people even bother making new music ? Because people need new music and new porn. You watch the old porn again and again but you get tired of it and you want something new. Also a lot of old porn is in lower quality, we need porn in 4k now. There are many reasons.
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>>30195890
>That's like asking Why do people even bother making new music ?
Not a good analogy. There is no such thing as a classic of pornography in the way that a song can become a classic. 99% of new porn that is created is garbage, just like 99% of new music, but unlike with music, the new garbage pornography isn't even new, it's nearly identical to older pornography, except lower quality in every way aside from resolution.
>we need porn in 4k now
That's stupid and you're stupid for writing it.
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>>30196370
>There is no such thing as a classic of pornography
Yes there is. The problem with porn is that it's something that it's not taken seriously by people. Music is taken seriously, it's considered part of our culture, it's studied in academia et cetera.
>That's stupid and you're stupid for writing it
Apart for insults do you have anything else to say ?
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>>30193569
dakota tyler
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>>30193569
doing porn is boring too, all the comments fucking suck
"god I would love to suck your tits"
yeah so do 200 other men.
"pretty pussy"
THIS IS THE MOST LOW EFFORT COMMENT EVER
"this isn't roblox"
not fucking original shut up
"love the bush, you should keep it"
oh my god! I was so going to get rid of it, but your comment has made me decide to keep it!
the reason I started doing porn doesn't exist anymore, cumming on camera is boring now because I can't act natural, my boyfriend doesn't like it much anymore, I mostly do solo videos
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>>30196049
Yeah, exactly like the difference between how much you get paid working for yourself versus working for someone else. Not everyone wants to put in all of the effort for the big payday nor do they necessarily have what people want that will earn that payday, but almost anyone can get a job at Burger King and have the chance to be a rockstar of the local fast food scene for $20 an hour.
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>>30198189
I've been the b in bg content and I do think you need that little extra something about "you" that makes you want to do it and makes people want to watch beyond just providing online GFE and requests, even the actresses I know that are hypersexual and would be masturbating a dozen times a day anyway get tired of the "work" aspect of shooting and interacting. But what you said about the comments is spot on, I've seen how these girls light up for a comment that goes above and beyond and have seen them result in one dating relationship and several hookups from more than one actress, at the end of the day it really is about enjoying the lifestyle and finding it fulfilling (in my opinion).
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>>30198232
What do you mean? Being in charge and having independence are very important qualities especially in this industry. Guess i could elaborate. Working for a studio is more risky, may involve things you don't wanna do and means you outsource your brand and power to another company.
All of that gets eliminated with these new modelling/porn sites that people use now. Sure, you may need to be tech literate, maybe got some editing skills and know how to market yourself but you still have to do some of that if you work for a studio while getting much less in return from a long term's perspective.
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>>30193569
>COVID
Covid as a 'pandemic' was the biggest scam ever put upon humanity. Even mentioning it is insulting to the visceral core of the people who witnessed this massive crime back then and the effects it is having on the health of people now. Fuck off.
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>>30199455
There were mother and daughter pornstars but they rather entered around the same time. I think Mia Malkova's mother had something to do with porn. A couple pornstars had stripper moms. Sisters who get each other into porn are rather common
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Dakota Doll
>>30193569
tfw you'll never massage the relaxed anal sphincter of Melanie Marie with your cock
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OF is such a fucking scam anyways. 9/10 times, it's reposted content sent to you for extortionate prices by an "assistant" rather than the actual content creator. Maybe you'll actually get lucky and get quality shit and to talk to the model, but they're usually local girls who have some level of integrity. Stay tf away from everyone else.
Except Angela White. She sells hour-long vids that are actually good for the price of a Starbucks frappie.
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Kelly Collins. Too bad her porn bf had her already retire from bg. I hope they break up soon
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>>30200534
Why are chuds so obsessed with him?
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>>30199455
I think Brandi Love's mother did porn.
>>30199476
Her real mother brought her to the Amateur Allure scene. She appeared on camera in the beginning.
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>>30201455
You both sound vaxxed. Don't you wonder why you're sick more often, more severely and longer than you were in the past? Don't you wonder what they injected you with for a "pandemic" with a 99.99% survival rate in healthy people? Don't you wonder why the bodies didn't pile up in unvaxxed third world places any more than the "vaxxed" places?
Probably not. Because you were stupid enough to take it in the first place.
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>>30202368
>Why are chuds so obsessed with him?
For me it is not understanding why anyone would hold such a worthless piece of shit like Floyd in such high regard. We've seen more of it since then with Brian Thompson who shot the United Healthcare CEO being labeled a hero by the left. Kilmar Garcia, a human trafficker and gang member with multiple deportation orders since 2012 is another hero for the woke crowd. Since when are people who traffic other humans or kill them in broad daylight heroes? Same with Renee Good, an anti-ICE activist who literally tried to run over a police officer with her car, giving him internal bleeding and a limp. Another hero of the left.
So it isn't obsession. It is more like what is a civilized society supposed to do with people who support lawbreakers who are literally barbarians committing heinous acts that don't belong in a civilized society? If you accept others celebrating death and holding up those who cause it as heroes, how long until they come for me, my neighbors and other people?
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>>30193569
While OF is a competitor for porn, the women working there have to have a male or team of men behind the camera doing all the shit work women REFUSE to do under all circumstances. Not all women have tech savy simps at their beck and call, so Jew porn is still the easy route to money. Jew porn does all the work for the female after all, they just occasionally drug her up too so she can take the one bbc star they can keep clean to shove his dick up her ass.
>>30196049
You are forgetting being your own "boss" means that you have to do the legal shit too - so OF suffers from theft to the commie masses. Also you need to remember subs have all your content once they sub. So if you want to KEEP that x/mo sub, you must stay on the content tredmill.
Porn definitely is higher payouts but once, while OF is smaller regular payouts IF you stay in the game. Shit comes CRASHING to a halt the second you stop. With proper investment, porn can easily be more money than OF ever could.
And that is ALWAYS assuming you have simp team 6 behind you doing chat, photos, editing, and whatever else. We always learn these big OF creators have teams behind them doing the shit work. You can't just be a girl and post on OF, you get no fans that way. You must chat, and that means shit women HATE doing - chatting with shitty beta men. That is why those with simps doing the chats for them get more way money.
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>>30198321
Women don't have tech skills. They have simps with tech skills. Behind every female streamer or content creator is a simp or several simps who handle the tech side for editing, mods, chat stuff, etc. Even the big male streamers have their teams - they get to be more open about it. The women pretend it is just them for simps to pay subs, but there is ALWAYS a man behind a woman, and we get leaks on all accounts eventually.
The results women get when it's just them: diddly squat. Because what woman knows how to code a rig up for a 3d vtubing setup? Or how to code up a chat bot to keep fans entertained? Spoiler is they don't - they purchase that or get a simp to do it for them. Simps CAN be boyfriends in some cases by the way.
This is why porn can last: women don't need skills to enter. Jews handle it all - male talent, audio, video, the set, the distribution, everything. She just gets a fat paycheck and takes a STD test. Show up, get fucked normally or in your fetish style, and leave. Done with cash/check in hand.
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>>30198628
Nah, porn lads dope on various things to give them fat creamy loads. That is a normal porn load. Fake loads are MASSIVE. Like enema syringe massive. It's not quite Scary Movie joke level, but some of those cumming toys spew a LOT of fake cum. Fake cum also does not look like that. It's always a little "off" from real cum.
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>>30195390
It's hard to tell because gooning is now split 4 ways:
1. Streaming porn (traditional porn)
2. OF content or camwhore content
3. Animated porn
4. New & developing: AI porn
2 & 3 are newcomers on the block, and animated is making massive strides currently. A lot of vidya game kids are adults now and can fap to models of overwatch, hoyoverse, and Croft/legacy games doing high res fucking and nude dancing. Pron games have also exploded thanks to software for it getting created.
AI porn is not quite there yet. Vids are 30 sec max right now, and it's meh glitchy. Images are there, so gooners are having a damn good time making shit that didn't exist. Plus artists are having a cow.
Since everyone is political now, there is no way we get good data on who likes what. Anyone studying it would skew the data for their whims.
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>>30203122
Sex workers are of a different breed. They transcend the female stereotype and can be very smart. I'm sure what you describe still applies to some women in the industry as well but not all of them are incompetent. Part of the reason why the average woman see them as such a threat. They're hotter, smarter, know what they want and are better in almost every way, crushing any sign of competition.
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Forget this conspiracy shit. Here's some answers for you, OP:
Blake Blossom (2020)
Angel Youngs (2020)
Roxie Sinner (2021)
Adaline Star (2021)
Chloe Surreal (2022)
Hailey Rose (2022)
Rissa May (2023)
I don't have anything saved on my phone, but I'll try to find some examples of each of them. I tend to prefer curvy women with big naturals, so maybe you'll dig the list too?
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>>30204534
technically all went to shit for american porn in 2016. After trump win, liberal porn whores got butthurt and started to shift porn into feminist/woke direction. It was easy to do since industry was already controlled by progressive epsteins. it took till around george floyd when all the inertia died and most of old stars walled or retired. I think there wasn't as single worthwile video was made there since Vina Sky retired.
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>>30193569
The porn industry has been dead for about 15 years. There is nothing to back to for sustained work. Outside of a few niche websites catering to enthusiastic fetishists the market collapsed. Nobody but the most depraved has paid for porn from the moment they got broadband internet. Onlyfans is direct2consumer parasocial sex work.
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I think it's really telling how overall quality has become more performative than ever before, more jewish and nastier than it has ever been, yet these cunts already have blown out pussies despite starting younger and having less exposure.
How do I put it, it's like the few people that are actually fucking nowadays, are the most degenerate they have ever been to the point porn now is like leftovers instead.
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'21 leana lovings was a fine piece
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>dakota tyler
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Don't forget about her. I love how during every cumshot she keeps her eyes wide open in the hope to get cum in and post her red eyes on tiktok as an aftermath video to promote her OF
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Kay Lovely is worth a mention
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>>30206133
Have another one of her.
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>>30203542
>Blake blossom
>Angel youngs
Hell yeah anon
>>30203669
I've jerked off to all of them as a young man, and I have to say at least two of those are butterfaces. Pornstars that are actual 10s across the board have always been rare
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>>30194370
OF seems like social media luck. The algorithm gods must be favorable to you. You have to go viral and stay big for a long time, and then be smart enough to invest the money while you're earning it before it tapers off as people move to masturbating to the next person. Working in the porn industry is like, you get paid 1k for each film You might be able to do 30 films a month depending on how fleshy your pussy is and how well you're able to recover over night.
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>>30196370
I would also say that there is such a thing as classic porn. The porn I watched when I was coming up, if I was to see it again, would be classic feeling to me. The old Heather Brooke ideepthroat stuff is mid classic. There's stuff I'd recognize before that though. Tawnee Stone would be an example of classic before that. And then before her would be the pre internet VHS stuff that crossed into internet age like Chloe Vevrier.
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>>30208183
Even the good sites have been a bit neutered over the years but that's affected the whole industry. Loyalfans, manyvids, clips4sale, iwantclips are still among the better ones. There may be a few others but i'm the most familiar with them. Most good fetish oriented content originates from there. Easily beats OF or subbing to mainstream studios if everything works as it should, its seen as a "high risk industry" after all so payments doesn't always work. I hope they figure out a permanent solution to that at some point.
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>>30193569
Onlyfans:
Belle Delphine
Rynkerbelle
Melody Marks
Eva Elfie
Dakota Tyler
Lulu Chu
Dakota Burns
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>>30208950
Crypto in general is a promising option yes but it takes a while to get into especially for those with little experience.
Something that replaces google/apple pay and paypal (all of them ban adult industry sales/purchases) would be nice. Some type of middleman that lets you transfer funds into an online coffer by simple credit/debit card transactions and then buy whatever you want with in cases where regular payments fail. A digital/prepaid card that works internationally like cryptocurrency since all of this is highly dependent on where you live as well.
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>>30208947
You sound triggered which means you're vaxxed. Next time use your head, or even just a friend who is maybe a tiny bit smarter, instead of relying on the fake news.
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>>30208853
>Melody Marks
Hasn't she been in mainstream porn for long? A teenfidelity scene of hers was quite popular here and javlibrary even lists her as a JAV pornstar because of her many scenes
>Eva Elfie
Pretty sure she already got her asshole manhandled in mainstream Euro porn
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>>30206320
she was homeschooled
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>>30208935
I guess you're right. Tawnee's career was 2005 - 2007. Heather was like 2001. I don't know why I remember Heather Brooke being later. I think I thought the Tawnee stuff was just old stuff from the late 90s when I saw it because of how it was filmed.
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>>30193569
If your a musclefag then ryan reid & shrooms q & Tera winters are perfect choice
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>>30214387
Also just going through my VR folder, for which most started recently:
Christina Sage (hot af but not a teen, but she started recently)
Sophie Tyler
Laya Rae
Lia Lin
Maddie Perez
Myra Moans
Nikki Nicole
Sera Ryder
Suzzi Eis
XXLayna Marie
Stella Luxx
Addison Vodka
Alicia Williams
Ayana Silk
Francesca Nappi
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>>30214432
Imagesearched for 3sec, it's girthmaster& clrkandmartha
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Katie Pardon. Hot af, only did a few scenes. Now she got quite chubby already.
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>>30214501
>Katie Pardon
https://www.tiktok.com/@whoiskatiepardon
nvm she's not chubby, idk what i was seeing.
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>>30199455
>Daughter of Madison Ivy?
No.
>>30199476
>Sisters who get each other into porn are rather common
My favorite example of this are the Venom sisters, Nika and Scarlett Venom. They never do scenes together though, so I didn't realize they're sisters until recently
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>>30202793
Throw your phone in a river and get sober.
I know you got psyopped by the Epstein Board, and that's only partially your fault, but stay on >>>/pol/ with the rest of the brainfucked degenerates and stop having schizo meltdowns on the gooning board.
Some of us have functional cocks and would like to get a nut off. Thank you.
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>>30195092
yeah its this the industry is completely fucked. Most onlyfans content is trash and pretending otherwise is a cope.
There's just a direct difference in how pornstars get paid now. In the past they signed contracts to film a video and got a flat check for it.
Nowadays they make their money by using Onlyfans to build parasocial relationships with mentally ill simps, desperate to find the most mentally ill ones, and make the majority of their money from insane men who will give them thousands of dollars in "tips". It's the same way the video game industry switched from selling individual games to profiting off of microtransaction addicts.
The other problem is because most women self-produce that means there's tons of porn advertising everywhere since tons of women do Onlyfans as an "easy way out". Which has caused porn fatigue on the internet, people hate porn more than ever before. You used to only see ads for porn if you went to porn websites, now you see ads for porn everywhere, constantly, and often the fact that its even a porn ad is obscured from you.
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>now you see ads for porn everywhere
no that's due to tech illiteracy in the general population. most people don't even know what scriptblockers are
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>>30214895
There's far more men involved in buying and consuming porn for them to be labelled as "mentally ill". Men like sex. There's a shortage of that in the real world which is why men turn to other outlets. That doesn't make them ill despite what the media and various political groups try to say to maintain an unjustified stigma against men for simply existing and having desire.
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>>30215929
Straight men get demonized to hell for wanting some type of sexual experience with a woman while homosexuals get praised no matter what vile things they do, yes, you're right. That's why people should stop pushing the propaganda that maintains stigma against the former.
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>>30214927
No I don't think things like OF will die off, what I think will be most affected is the most popular creators who are already off-loading half of the work to jeets, regular girls with a dozen subscribers who you can have an "actually personal" connection with will still be getting their monthly pennies. AI can make anything from Belle Delphine-type hyper cuteness to trailer park MILFs getting blacked and it'll get to the point where Supervisor LLMs review created content for mistakes before it gets posted, but just like strip clubs and massage parlors and prostitutes the "realness" of a girl doing your requests will always attract some people over "perfection", no matter how perfectly the AI can fulfill the specific request.
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>>30215929
LMAO very few openly gay men see male prostitutes, that's mostly closeted men with some type of social status like politicians, businessmen, and religious leaders that can't find a child, people who have to pay for discretion for their ladybugs. ANY man can get his dick sucked on Grindr, even the fattest chud with a microsoft can accomplish an assisted orgasm within a week, and it's even easier for them to suck a dick or take it in the ass. Similarly, most gay men don't like trans women, they in fact often privately despise them, because whether or not you believe that trans women are women or men, they are not the right type of masculine for somebody that is attracted to masculinity. Trans women are almost entirely a thing for straight or "str8" men and blacks and other trans women. And before you bring up drag, drag performers are almost entirely not trans (or it wouldn't be "drag")
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>>30216318
A Friends gf invited me and a friend together with her artsy friends to some bar. Found out all her friends were gay and it was a bar for gays and lesbians. One of the guys told me about his breakup. He came home and had the impression that his bf had had a prostitute in their home so he asked him directly and the bf said No. Later he found out there had been a prostitute so he broke Up. He said the problem wasn't the prostitute but the lie. And they were no politicians. Our politicians are allowed to be openly gay
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>>30212386
I'll give you that, all of that early to mid-00s semi-amateur stuff looks way older because the DV systems at the time looked like digitized VHS camcorder tapes when they were still shooting pro porn on actual celluloid sometimes or at least pro-level video systems, like they did for soap operas
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>>30216405
But did he pay the prostitute or just fuck him? Like all women, most gay men will take money for sex but they'll also fuck for free if they want to and they like you. Also, even if he did pay, your story still confirms my statement, gay men pay prostitutes for discretion not for sex, just like straight men pay prostitutes to leave afterwards not for sex.
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>>30209022
lol you have the view of someone who isn't participating in the actual world so you think thoughts you have are evidence. all 192 people at my company are at least double-vaxxed. zero difference in sick days, LTD, etc. Same with every other business owner or leader I connect with. every person I know outside of work is vaxxed. zero increase in any health. where are the 100M dead people from your scary-science shot? thought that was supposed to become obvious years ago? where are their bodies? what about tax contributions and housing and job vacancies, where are those?
but you already stopped reading because you're not smart you're just really arrogant.
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>Eliza Ibarra
Never cared much for her when she was new in 2018. First saw her as second Girl in an mff vid when i Had looked for the other girl and had to acknowledge some bj talent but she never did it for me because of her voice, kinda the face and no anal to be found. Gave it another try just now and found some hard anal with ass to throat. Too bad she doesn't do it mor often and no dp to be found. Her body is 11/10. Perfect tits and ass
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